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Ice melt, your doing it wrong. What to buy and why.

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Pest and Lawn Ginja

Pest and Lawn Ginja

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Ice Melt
🛒 Peladow Calcium Chloride (Best)
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🛒 Magnesium Chloride (safe for decks and concrete)
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🛒 Purple heat ice melt, magnesium chloride coated salt
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🛒 Salt Ice melt
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General Rule of Thumb
Salt - is for melting ice not preventing snow build up. It is best to remove the snow then apply ice melt to help prevent ice buildup. Salt only changes the salinity of the water and gives it a lower freeze point. Mainly used for curative measures. It is not safe for new concrete and will cause damage. It is not safe for ornamental plants and grass. Does not really melt ice below -5 degrees F. the temperature ratings on the bags are commonly incorrect
magnesium chloride - can be used on aggressive ice buildup. Still recommended to remove the snow then apply the product. Overall safe to apply over new concrete. Will not harm most ornamental plants.
calcium chloride- Will heat the water up significantly. Can be used for preventive ice buildup and can be applied before a storm. You can also melt the ice to be used as a spray from a handheld or back pack sprayer to be applied directly on ice patches around your home. Will not cause damage to new concrete. Will not cause damages to ornamental plants.
My overall opinion is if you want the safest most effective product the Peladow (calcium chloride) is my top choice.
- if you’re looking for something that will melt the snow and ice Calcium Chloride is your friend.
- Corse chunky ice melt is for traction for your feet or vehicles.
- Colored ice melt will allow you to see where you’re applying the salt.
- Fine granular ice melt will distribute more evenly than corse granular ice melt.
- Water softener salts are a great salt base product to use if the temperatures are up and it will save you a lot of money.
SureSoft Extra Coarse Water Softening Salt
Pros- Super inexpensive and great for areas that commonly don’t get below 20 degrees or for end of the season ice control.
Cons: not safe concrete less than 3 to 7 years old. Not safe for grass or ornamental plants.
Salt Depot Ice Bomb - non staining dye, extra coarse. calcium, magnesium and potassium. It will melt down to -0F / -18C
Pros- less expensive than other brands and works well in areas that are consistently above 20 degrees F.
Cons - the majority of the product is Salt based and will not melt the ice as fast as a true magnesium product or calcium chloride product. not safe concrete less than 3 to 7 years old. Not safe for grass or ornamental plants.
Salt Depot Purple Heat Purple Heat is an 8% magnesium blend and will melt down to -15F / -26.1F
Pros - added magnesium helps to melt the ice faster
Cons - the added magnesium is a topically coated on the salt instead of blended together. The magnesium will burn out quickly and you’re left with salt and nothing else. not safe concrete less than 3 to 7 years old. Not safe for grass or ornamental plants.
IceAway Turbo™ Professional Grade Ice Melt
Melts ice and snow down to -7°F/-21°C. Sodium Chloride + Magnesium Chloride + Calcium Chloride
Pros- true blended magnesium chloride and calcium chloride blend. Price is low considering it is a true magnesium / calcium chloride blend and has a low freeze point. If you’re in an area that commonly is above 0 degrees and you’re not trying to melt the ice fast this is your product. For overall price point and functionality this is my number 1 suggestion.
Cons - only rated for -7. Does not melt ice as fast as a true calcium chloride product.
MAX GREEN ICEAWAY MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE
Melts ice and snow down to -15°F
Pros - true ice melting point. safe for new concrete. Safe for ornamental plants and landscapes.
Cons - more expensive than alternative products. The product is dusty. Tends to gum up when its wet and sticks to the bottom of shoes. The shape of the granular made it difficult to evacuate the hand held spreader and the push spreader.
PELADOW™ Premier Snow & Ice Melter is the fastest-acting
Melts ice and snow down to -25°F
Pros- Super fast acting. Heats up the water. Nice granular mixture that spreads evenly. Melting point goes down to -25 and we found it actually performed to those temperatures. We tested this product and found it would penetrate 2” of ice within 15 minutes on average. safe for new concrete. Safe for ornamental plants and landscapes.
Cons - more expensive than the others. It was dusty in the bag and when spreading.

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@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 6 жыл бұрын
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@leahcimthgirw3163
@leahcimthgirw3163 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely could have used some of the stuff here in Illinois the past day or two when it hit negative 21 Below without the wind chill
@sensoyguven
@sensoyguven 5 жыл бұрын
Try sparkling water, it helps aswell
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
yikes!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
interesting. I have never tried that!
@rickthompson6240
@rickthompson6240 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering why my concrete surface where I had applied the ice melt which is an Ace hardware product looked wet for about 3 days. There was no rain or condensation or sprinkling of any kind but the area where I had put the ice melter down look like I had just thrown a bucket of water on the concrete and it stayed that way for about three days thanks very much
@MrTackleberry79
@MrTackleberry79 5 жыл бұрын
Mag chloride as a brine sprayed over top of salt will help activate it when it's real cold. Dry salt just won't do anything different than sand unless it has a pre-wet or the snow is wet to start with. Also, if you look for kiln dried salt, you'll have much more sucess in making it disolve in a liquid suspension or brine. State agencies that use sanders with salt in them typically have a pre-wet added as it is applied. Something like 200 lbs of salt per lane mile with 10 gallons of mag chloride or brine of some kind per ton dispensed. It works best when there is some traffic grinding the salt into the road. Of course traffic is calculated into the equation, less traffic, more mag per ton etc.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Great comment!
@XOneStarX
@XOneStarX 5 жыл бұрын
Sodium Chloride (cheapest of the salts) mixed in with water (salt brine) works awesome. One bag of S.C. makes approx 3 times what I would use in just salt alone. Spray it with my sprayer. Works almost instantly rather than waiting for the salts themselves to start working. Most bang for the buck. Never going back to just salts.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm going to make a video of me doing that too
@TransAmDrifter
@TransAmDrifter Жыл бұрын
How can You say that NaCl is better than salt? =D sodium chloride is salt hehehe
@mocvd4155
@mocvd4155 Жыл бұрын
@@TransAmDrifter Because there is more than one kind of salt, not just NaCl. Take a chemistry class. hehehe
@metaparcel
@metaparcel Жыл бұрын
I would think this is the most cost effective method
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 Жыл бұрын
@@TransAmDrifter In chemical terms, all of those are salts. NaCl or sodium chloride is the one culturally called salt, a fine ground version would be called table salt.
@TT-ii7jo
@TT-ii7jo 5 жыл бұрын
How do you make a 15 minute video on rock salt? That’s what I learned here
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
way to many words that's how 😂😂😂😂😂
@ivlark1
@ivlark1 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@marcaliventialiventi765
@marcaliventialiventi765 5 жыл бұрын
I just use sand, really cheap you can walk and drive on it. Doesn't screw up cement and plant life
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Sand works great too
@saltdepot9210
@saltdepot9210 4 жыл бұрын
Also, the water conditioning and Ice Bomb are Extra Coarse - a bigger size. The Purple Heat and Turbo are coarse, which is smaller. They are both the same grade of salt. Extra Coarse is designed for tailgate spreaders / commercial use. Coarse is what most ice melt is - and is used on sidewalk and handheld spreaders.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
I can see your point
@ermannodangelo1062
@ermannodangelo1062 5 жыл бұрын
I use the upside down bag you didn’t test. Water softener ice, cheap and works. Here in Canada I have put it on solid 4” of ice and it melts right down to asphalt and pellets are still whole.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
I find it works great as long as you don't have sub zero temps. Cheap too!
@brionawambugu5405
@brionawambugu5405 5 жыл бұрын
Ermanno D'Angelo I live in upstate New York and I’m dying for a solution to get rid of this compacted snow and ice by my garage
@santiman2938
@santiman2938 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I live in MN and never even knew all these options existed. I'm a bit bummed winter is coming, was just getting the hang of this lawn care stuff. Atleast now I can buy the right ice melt for our coming season.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Mean Green. Thanks for watching. It is a little surprising how many options there really are. Now is a great time to prep that lawn for winter. Getting the right ice melt will help!!! I've seen a few salt burn from ice melt running in peoples lawns.
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 4 жыл бұрын
@@pestandlawnginja/videos Are there any protective sprays, treatments, or tips for protecting lawns around drives and walkways from the salting to come?
@swamprat69er
@swamprat69er 5 жыл бұрын
Wood ashes is the best and cheapest for melting ice.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've never tried that before.
@dabunnyrabbit2620
@dabunnyrabbit2620 4 жыл бұрын
hmmm, sounds messy, but I'll try it.
@loerber
@loerber 5 жыл бұрын
Adding salt doesn't change the temperature of water it just changes the freezing point....
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
true
@jakegump
@jakegump 5 жыл бұрын
nothing gets by this guy! nice!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
@@jakegump hahaha. Nope
@foducks
@foducks 5 жыл бұрын
potassium also acts this way with water. i used to put some potassium in a glass jar, some cottonballs over it and drop it in the lake where i wanted some fish. the jar would sink and after the water soaked through the cotton balls the jar would explode and fish would float up to the top.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
OMG hahaha.
@Zeromatic420
@Zeromatic420 5 жыл бұрын
The maintenance guy at one of the offices I clean needs to watch this. That guy uses an insane amount of salts. I swept up an area of 18 square feet outside the front doors to get an idea of how much he's really putting out there, and I ended up with 7 lbs. It's so bad that i have to mop the floors inside 3-4 times to get all of it cleaned up.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I posted an instagram pic 0f a similar situation.
@19TL85
@19TL85 5 жыл бұрын
If it's a Business more is better.. Someone's always looking to gain a payday falling on ice!
@23srod
@23srod 6 ай бұрын
@@19TL85 people need to undrstand this. 7 pounds for an area that small is excessive but I'm sure he goes over the tap for this exact reason.
@benschildgen4994
@benschildgen4994 5 жыл бұрын
all Fine and dandy, but a lot of times we can only buy what is available locally.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
I hear that
@Eclg41291
@Eclg41291 3 жыл бұрын
Just as a safety precaution: Please be cautious and always put gloves on .
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback
@bballcoachmomof2
@bballcoachmomof2 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video, with great info. We moved to Gaylord, MI (middle of the snow belt!) in October and our driveway has a pretty steep incline. I appreciate the info and will grab some calcium chloride today. We've been using the magnesium chloride, which is good, but I'm all for better. 😊
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rachel!!! Please keep in mind that all salts have potential to cause harm. Be sure to not over apply the calcium chloride.
@amidon422
@amidon422 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video.. If you ever need to melt ice on turf or anywhere really try using black beauty / black sand. It works well & wont harm the grass! We've been using this method for years at the golf course.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
great advice! I'll have to try it out
@MrPhatties
@MrPhatties 6 жыл бұрын
Great channel, glad to have found it! Good things to come!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks jimmies rustled!
@gordonhutchinson529
@gordonhutchinson529 5 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks for putting that up! I just put in a new driveway and sidewalk this year so this was really good timing. I have one concern about the Ice-Away Turbo. I would imagine the sodium chloride in it could be a problem for a driveway less than a year old...
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Most ice melts are going to be a problem with a drive way less than one year old. If you are to use anything I would stick to magnesium chloride or the peladow. The products replace the water that gets in the pores of the concrete. The more the water expands and contracts the greater the chance you have of cracking the concrete. Concrete is always in a state of hardening. So as the years pass the harder and the pores get smaller it gets. If I were in your situation I wouldn't apply ice melt of any sort for the first 2 to 3 seasons.
@gordonhutchinson529
@gordonhutchinson529 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was just coming to that conclusion myself. I'll put a sealer on it next year...
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like a good plan. The sealer will help against staining too. Win Win
@sspeedy2859
@sspeedy2859 2 жыл бұрын
I bought some ice melter today made by Project Source. Left it outside in -7 degree weather overnight and it froze solid.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
LOL it happens
@jovashade
@jovashade Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, was pretty helpful
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@saltdepot9210
@saltdepot9210 4 жыл бұрын
The reason Calcium Chloride got hot is that it is more exothermic than salt or mag. However, it will also burn hands and paws THE SAME WAY when it goes into solution from moisture on skin. It is also more harsh on concrete than mag or salt because it melts fast, but also refreezes fast when the melted water dilutes the calcium chloride. It tends to erode / spall concrete faster. As with many products, features and benefits have to be weighed with considerations and concerns.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
yes it gets surprisingly hot. couldn't agree more.
@jakegump
@jakegump 5 жыл бұрын
learn something new every day!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
awesome Jake! Thanks for the comment.
@anthonyferencjr1130
@anthonyferencjr1130 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks for your help..
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
anytime!
@EvelynNAckon
@EvelynNAckon 5 жыл бұрын
Hello thanks for a great content. My question is are these safe for the lawn.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
If you stay within the label specification the magnesium chloride and calcium chloride are safest for the lawn.
@grumpy1311
@grumpy1311 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I have a client for snow/ice removal that has lawns and pavement with no curbing divider. They want no ice on the driveway, but want to avoid killing the lawns on the edges. We have been applying a sand / salt mixture to reduce the amount of salt used. I might offer them calcium chloride, though it looks as though the cost would be nearly 3×?
@saltdepot9210
@saltdepot9210 4 жыл бұрын
Rates of application are different for different products. Higher performance products tend to have less needed per square yard than straight salt.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I made a followup video to talk about that a bit more
@beatfarmerfan
@beatfarmerfan 7 ай бұрын
After you spray the Calcium Chloride on the driveway, how long will it melt any new snow?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 ай бұрын
One storm really. It gets dilutedafter each storm
@Wakawaka888
@Wakawaka888 5 жыл бұрын
Can I make a saline water and pour in the driveway instead of sprinkling salt crystals ? I think it could work
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Never know until you try it! Make a video!
@FIXERx05
@FIXERx05 5 жыл бұрын
my son uses pool salt it works well and it's cheaper
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! That'll work
@Steve-pu4zx
@Steve-pu4zx 5 жыл бұрын
It is calcium chloride, what he is using in the end of the video.
@truthfinder4973
@truthfinder4973 5 жыл бұрын
i use to putt salt down before the snow came when it was done i had nothing to deal with
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
That can work. In my area we get too much rain before the snow so it doesn't work great.
@RobertBardwell
@RobertBardwell 5 жыл бұрын
13:28 You can immediately see... it.... it's still frozen solid
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha, yah. It took a few minutes and I was to lazy to take the footage.
@djohnson3678
@djohnson3678 5 жыл бұрын
at the end you can hear the oxygen popping from the hydrogen heating up. that is why it was crackling..... not to much hydrogen. if it was more hydrogen , then you would hear it sound off like a string of firecrackers. plus the reason it was sdtill icey looking, is because it was [ compacted snow into ice] .
@lionzDen23
@lionzDen23 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
good observation!!!
@rossmiller4228
@rossmiller4228 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Ross! Have a great day
@kstevenson3504
@kstevenson3504 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. However, it would have been nice to know how long this stuff lasts. We don't get very much snow so I'm completely new to this.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! The salt can stay for a long while but its the quantity of what stays vs how much water / snow is coming down. you'll need to re apply after every snow from my experience.
@djohnson3678
@djohnson3678 5 жыл бұрын
yup, calcium chloride is a better choice. will not damage concrete will not damage the lawn at the end you can hear the oxygen popping from the hydrogen heating up. that is why it was crackling..... not to much hydrogen. if it was more hydrogen , then you would hear it sound off like a string of firecrackers.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the crackle!!! Thanks for the comment and observation
@causewayeffects7425
@causewayeffects7425 5 жыл бұрын
there is no charge when the sun is out
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
good call
@sayhoman
@sayhoman 5 жыл бұрын
Except sun isnt going to melt much snow for places like the new england area.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
@@sayhoman touche'
@_baller
@_baller 3 жыл бұрын
Soo sodium is good for moderate ice, magnesium is best for asphalt and pet safety, and calcium decimates everything.....
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
simply put, calcium chloride heats up faster than the others.
@MarkAJ311
@MarkAJ311 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Aguglia thanks! More to come.
@bigfish8280
@bigfish8280 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it wasn't a huge determining Factor but your measurement of each product was most likely slightly off due to the granular size difference and the fact that you're laying it out according to a measuring cup most likely meant for liquids. You should have physically Weighed each product on a scale individually. Like I said probably not a huge difference due to the small quantity that you are testing but you never know
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
great feedback
@ristube3319
@ristube3319 5 жыл бұрын
You should really get a laser thermometer. It’s nearly the price of the human one. If you have Harbor Freight stores in Canada, they have them for under $30 and will accurately temp everything, including cooking and if you want to check things like a wood stove or your freezer. You can purchase from them online if you’re interested. That store is great for tools you’ll rarely use, and they offer warranty services for everything also!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great suggestion
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 Жыл бұрын
Even just a cheap $5 thermometer at the auto parts store would work great. They sell them in the air conditioning section, used to check AC output. WIll read any temperature between 20 and 120 usually.
@balgrantango460
@balgrantango460 5 жыл бұрын
Grammar: YOUR ice (you own it). YOU'RE (you are) removing the ice. Good advice on melting ice! Thanks
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Grammar police are my favorite
@JodBronson
@JodBronson 4 жыл бұрын
@@marylounajera4457 - LOL
@JodBronson
@JodBronson 4 жыл бұрын
@@pestandlawnginja - You need Gramma Police! She knock you with her cane!
@thomash.l.9382
@thomash.l.9382 4 жыл бұрын
@@JodBronson damn MaryLou ripped you
@JodBronson
@JodBronson 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomash.l.9382 - You " STOOPID " idiot! LMFAO 😂❤️😂❤️😂❤️😂❤️
@sjgoff
@sjgoff 6 жыл бұрын
GREAT info! I didn't realize there were different types. I NEVER use ice melt because it destroys concrete. I had to use some last year because we had a winter rain and it froze overnight making a skating rink out of my sidewalk. This spring the grass along that sidewalk was all dead...
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve!!! Love that you watched this video in August. Yes, sooo many choices these days. The salt damage is ruthless! Spend a little extra money now and you don't have damage control later.
@duffman1241
@duffman1241 5 жыл бұрын
I poor concrete for a living and yes salts it worst enemy but if you seal your concrete every few years you can salt it. We run into home owners who tell us there gonna seal it and don’t and you can see were they drive on it the next spring Mn winters are tuff on slabs road salt. Sealed ones look great yet
@jasonorourke8786
@jasonorourke8786 5 жыл бұрын
What about the new stuff that uses beet juice it is supposed to be the best for concrete and pets
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
I'd have to call dwight schrute for that answer. 😂😂😂 in all seriousness I've never tried it.
@jtoth1234summer
@jtoth1234summer 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used 100% urea? I was considering trying it...thanks very good videos
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard the rumor but I've never gotten around to trying it! I need to for sure.
@anthonyferencjr1130
@anthonyferencjr1130 5 жыл бұрын
Can you store the Calcium Chloride/ water mix in a back pack sprayer? Or do you only make the mix as you need to? Great video..
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
I personally wouldn't store it in the backpack. It may cause corrosion to some of the parts of the pump. I personally just mix what I need.
@LOUDsigh
@LOUDsigh 4 жыл бұрын
What about runoff? How do i get it to stick to ground?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
not a ton you can do about that. I suggest applying it just before the snow fall. Its meant to prevent ice or break ice down. not necessary control it during the melt off.
@Chief6067
@Chief6067 7 ай бұрын
What about CMA? Calcium magnesium acetate? Is that a good product to use on cement driveways as an ice melt?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 ай бұрын
I need to try that and see
@tonywilliams4449
@tonywilliams4449 3 жыл бұрын
How do I create it into a liquid so I can use it in my sprayer do I just put a couple cups of water in and a couple cups of the product in my sprayer how do I do it, what is the recommended formula?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
It will all depend on the product you choose to use and the area it recommends. You'll need to do some math as well. I personally have tested it with 3 cups of granular to 4 gallons of water and it worked great. You need to stir it until all the granular has disolved properly perfor spraying anything.
@ThePr0biker
@ThePr0biker 3 жыл бұрын
I work as a truck driver and i the winter i plow/salt the highway. You want to make a salt water solution. You can only dissolve 30% salt into water, and the best way is to boil the water and salt while mixing. When its not very cold, you can use the solution to melt the ice. When the temperature drops, the solution will be watered out from the ice melting, and you will only make it worse. So what we do is to spread dry salt on the ice to get it really concentrated, and then spray solution on it to get the melting process starting. This is quick, and will melt ice when its really cold. Hope this helps. Ps, allways buy the cheapest salt you can get, cause it makes no difference (as long as its pure salt).
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePr0biker great feedback
@itsallhappenedbefore1908
@itsallhappenedbefore1908 2 жыл бұрын
Damn people are ruthless😂 Why is everybody so offended that this guy decided to share his observations?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha, everyone is a critic these days. doesn't bother me. helps me make the videos better.
@Edwardmodos
@Edwardmodos 5 жыл бұрын
calcium chloride eats the cement that binds the aggregate, weakening/damaging cements.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
lots of info to debate for sure. My suggestion is to stay safe and follow the label.
@duffman1241
@duffman1241 5 жыл бұрын
If you seal your slab it will not be ruined
@cleanclippingslawnservice7128
@cleanclippingslawnservice7128 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bigfish8280
@bigfish8280 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem that I find with the calcium chloride is that it is not pet safe. I made the mistake of using it at my house and my pet's Paws became irritated
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, it can get that way for sure. gotta keep those little guys safe
@jeremiahfisher6994
@jeremiahfisher6994 5 жыл бұрын
What's in prestone driveway heat? I love that stuff!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Little bit of everything: Prestone Driveway Heat. SARA Section 311/312 Hazard Classes. Water (7732-18-5) Calcium chloride (10043-52-4) Sodium chloride (7647-14-5) Strontium chloride (SrCl2) (10476-85-4) Calcium hydroxide (1305-62-0) Prestone Driveway Heat - Public Salt publicsalt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/prestone-driveway-heat-sds-3.pdf
@catfishhunter9642
@catfishhunter9642 3 жыл бұрын
i would take that spreader to the doctor lol after reading the temp !
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
Right!? hahaha
@ivlark1
@ivlark1 2 жыл бұрын
How much is a heated sidewalk? How long will it take to recoup your money on salt or paying someone for an average home in the north.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
great question. it all depends on if you go with water or electric lines. It also depends on how much the cost of concrete is going for these days. so many details and its regional specific. wish i could give you an idea but i˜m not sure
@Justforfun-ek7et
@Justforfun-ek7et 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to help an older woman neighbor who has ice all over her driveway, looks like 2-3 inches thick. Can I just walk over there and spread some of my blue heat, would it melt all the ice on one go or would I need to add more for extra applications?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
That's a tough situation. you'll want a solution that heats up and its going to take multiple application to get it all broken down. if you would like to speed up the process i would suggest you create a brine solution and spray it between apps if possible.
@StancePunk
@StancePunk 5 жыл бұрын
Do these temps go according to actual temp or wind chill? Wind chill can often go beyond -25
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Its outside temps. Which in my opinion, windchill could and most likely will affect.
@jammingontheone1666
@jammingontheone1666 2 жыл бұрын
Wind chill is a measure of how the temperature feels on human or animal skin. The heat index is the same concept in the summer. Neither affect actual surface temperatures.
@notanaive
@notanaive 6 ай бұрын
Never use salt on concrete. The salt penetrates the concrete and rusts the rebars.😢
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@janisb8064
@janisb8064 5 жыл бұрын
If the calcium gets tracked in to wood floors, the wood will absorb moisture all the time. It's bad for wood.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@PongoXBongo
@PongoXBongo 4 жыл бұрын
That's why shoes should always come off at the door. Tracking around the house is bad year-round. ;)
@pinkcashmere1908
@pinkcashmere1908 Жыл бұрын
What happens if the calcium chloride gets wet in rain in its storage bucket?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja Жыл бұрын
It begins to lose efficacy when it gets wet
@rickthompson6240
@rickthompson6240 3 жыл бұрын
after using an ACE Hardware product "ice melter" which is a mix of sodium chloride, mag. chloride, hexahydrate, and MG104 my steps look like they have just been hosed down, a 'wet' look to it and this is after 3 days since application of the ice melter product. is this dangerous or damaging? should i scrub it off? how do i get rid of it? thank you.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
I would consider sweeping it off or spraying it off. the expanding and contracting isn't great for concrete no matter what
@sherrypayton6871
@sherrypayton6871 2 жыл бұрын
Why not go back and get the right thermometer? If you based half of your video on whether or not it can raise the temperature?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
great feedback
@LaydeeLia
@LaydeeLia 5 жыл бұрын
Even using an outdoor thermometer is useless as the water temps won't change from adding the salts or chlorides. What I'd really like to see is u pouring that stuff on blocks of ice for a side-by-side comparison, which is what I assumed u were going to do in this video when u had the various products dissolved in the vessels of cold water. When u poured only the one solution on the ice, but not any of the others, I felt a bit disappointed.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Great feedback, thank you. Calcium chloride and magnesium chloride do raise water temps.
@lemonadegrave
@lemonadegrave 2 жыл бұрын
Love a good R-word drop. Thanks for the laugh from TV Land. Bye mommy
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben!!!
@cascadesub6235
@cascadesub6235 4 жыл бұрын
sweet vid..cheers
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yak!
@TheArgoBots
@TheArgoBots 3 жыл бұрын
Which one will destroy my driveway the fastest?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
the straight sale products
@DIYAllied
@DIYAllied 6 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for the video. I'd like to use that next year. Is it expensive?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 6 жыл бұрын
Don Key thanks for the feedback. The peladow averages $32 per bag. Not too bad. The other products will be less expensive
@DIYAllied
@DIYAllied 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I want to get away from salts on my sidewalks because it harms my lawn.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 6 жыл бұрын
Don Key you're welcome. Glad I could help
@margiebaker7630
@margiebaker7630 4 жыл бұрын
If ice melt gets hard and stuck together in a big lump, can you do something to it so it can be spread?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
I usually just use plastic bag and put the chunks in it and hit it with a hammer.
@grumpy1311
@grumpy1311 3 жыл бұрын
Windshield wash fluid will work to make it granular again
@kirankumarsukumar
@kirankumarsukumar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dude
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@fanirama
@fanirama 3 жыл бұрын
Does brine ruin an asphalt driveway making holes in them?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
I can for sure. it all depends on how porous your concrete is
@debunkedvideos9941
@debunkedvideos9941 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear snap crackle pop.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
Rice Crispies!
@yotakev7768
@yotakev7768 5 жыл бұрын
Oh your a snow ginja also.....Lol. Very nice great info looking forward to more winter content from ya.👍
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha, Snow Ginja! I like it. I may need some content idea help from everyone for the winter.
@100tjl
@100tjl 5 жыл бұрын
IMHO don't it will turn concrete to sand, hot water maybe hammer claw it chip it up
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tour opinion and comment.
@janierudy2077
@janierudy2077 2 жыл бұрын
We use a tile splitter
@playsafeproducts947
@playsafeproducts947 5 жыл бұрын
do you discuss pretreating with an anti-icer? If so we should chat.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
No I haven't discussed it. I have thoroughly looked into it and haven't found the right product.
@playsafeproducts947
@playsafeproducts947 5 жыл бұрын
@@pestandlawnginja Not sure what you are looking for. A non corrosive product safe for deck screws, turf and pets is going to cost more. That's what we do -- it works to -15°F.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Send me a message on my facebook page facebook.com/pestandlawnginja
@alanwang9263
@alanwang9263 3 жыл бұрын
The CaCl2 is anhydrous calcium chloride ?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
great question.
@jaygames1980
@jaygames1980 5 жыл бұрын
Get a decent thermometer
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
I did!!! It's much better. I need to re do the tests. I was disappointed to when I was filming. Rookie mistake.
@TH-eb5ro
@TH-eb5ro Жыл бұрын
Are they pet and storm drain or waterway safe?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja Жыл бұрын
you'd have to read the label. from years ago's labels i some but not all of the products were. we mentioned a few of the pet issues in the video.
@JodBronson
@JodBronson 4 жыл бұрын
*At least you're doing it wrong! LOL*
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@knives0010
@knives0010 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need sun light to make ice melt work
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
no. needs water
@knives0010
@knives0010 3 жыл бұрын
I tried using a torch and all it did was freeze solid with the ice melt frozen over it
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
@@knives0010 happens. It all depends on the product and the temps.
@MarkSegree
@MarkSegree 5 жыл бұрын
nice video but you keep saying and writing F when what you really meant is C. the freezing point is 32°f or 0°c .
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
I can see why there is a misunderstanding by my speech. I appreciate you bringing that up. The peladow is rated to -25F per the specs. Most of the bags all the bags are rated to F and down to 0F. That's why I was saying that you can't trust the bag labels in the salt only categories because there good down to 15F and no more IMO. Thanks for the comment.
@saltdepot9210
@saltdepot9210 4 жыл бұрын
Your information about the different products is not exactly correct. Purple Heat has flake magnesium chloride in it - it is not top coated as you say. It has twice the magnesium chloride as Turbo has. There is a difference between eutectic melting temperature and practical melting temperatures. Different companies report differently. Not to say any are accurate or inaccurate - one can request lab test verification if wanted.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
great feedback thank you
@pfwtc
@pfwtc 5 жыл бұрын
Stopped the video at 7:40 was interesting until then. No temp reading? /edit changed intil to until.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Total fail! I'm going redo that. I have a thermometer that will read the higher temps.
@playsafeproducts947
@playsafeproducts947 3 жыл бұрын
Preventing ice is a lot more predictable than removing it. Labels are always wrong because the industry isn't regulated. FYI, Ice melts don't work until they dissolve until a liquid (when it's cold they won't dissolve at all).
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for your feedback.
@bethallen7296
@bethallen7296 5 жыл бұрын
Are these safe for pets. I have both cats and dogs.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
The magnesium chloride is slightly safe for cats paws than the calcium chloride. IMO both are good products. The calcium chloride doesn't track as easily into the house.
@liammclaughlin2881
@liammclaughlin2881 Жыл бұрын
You're...no your. It's a conjunction which means you are. "Your" indicates ownership.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja Жыл бұрын
thanks
@LB67ful
@LB67ful 4 жыл бұрын
They have temperature rating?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
yes. The temperature at which the chemical will activate with water.
@LB67ful
@LB67ful 4 жыл бұрын
@@pestandlawnginja I never really paid attention to that. I am glad you made this available. Ignorance is bliss on my part. Thank you.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Merry Christmas!
@carolinej3661
@carolinej3661 5 жыл бұрын
you're
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@iveneverdonethisbefore8390
@iveneverdonethisbefore8390 2 жыл бұрын
You spelt "you're" wrong.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Oreoboots
@Oreoboots 3 жыл бұрын
Manganese doesn't do anything to snow and ice , What he meant to say was Magnesium chloride, He should study before posting on KZbin , manganese on the other hand helps inhibit dry rot and stiffens aluminum in the making of cans , Kids, please do your homework
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
It's true. wording got away from me on this one.
@MrCarbera
@MrCarbera 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget about pets, or children. Some of these can be very harmful.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
Great comment. Very true.
@2ndarymotion
@2ndarymotion 5 жыл бұрын
Grammar, you're doing it wrong. Great info, though!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
awe, thanks for caring
@2ndarymotion
@2ndarymotion 5 жыл бұрын
That would be “Aww, thanks for caring•. You’re welcome.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
relly?
@2ndarymotion
@2ndarymotion 5 жыл бұрын
OLO!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
thats not even a wurd
@1smokeyj350
@1smokeyj350 5 жыл бұрын
Put some gloves on
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@thecityoutdoors
@thecityoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
bad for ecosystem though
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 3 жыл бұрын
it can be when overapplied
@johnschool
@johnschool 5 жыл бұрын
you said the r word!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Darn it!
@kitkat-sp6yx
@kitkat-sp6yx 4 жыл бұрын
i melt ice for fun ;-;
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
could be
@50hellkat2
@50hellkat2 2 жыл бұрын
OMG...this is too complicated. Do one for dummies and get to the point.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
Love the feedback
@bikes7777
@bikes7777 2 жыл бұрын
You're
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 2 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@jessegentry9699
@jessegentry9699 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch your video because you started off by saying your doing it wrong. How do you know what people are doing fury face?
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Good for you Jesse smooth face
@melissasecrest8223
@melissasecrest8223 5 жыл бұрын
*you're and *furry. [Tip: when you make a move to school people online, you may want to make sure you don't look like an idiot.]
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
@@melissasecrest8223 LOL
@opticalriot
@opticalriot 5 жыл бұрын
you know nothing about chemicals and how they work
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@adamr8628
@adamr8628 Жыл бұрын
Dishonest clickbait: "You're doing it wrong". There's nothing in the video where he explains how people are doing it wrong. To presume that he's the only one that knows how to do it correctly is rather prideful for sure!
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja Жыл бұрын
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@beastlyned8452
@beastlyned8452 4 жыл бұрын
i will sub if its helpful
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Hopefully you found some value! Have a great night
@beastlyned8452
@beastlyned8452 4 жыл бұрын
@@pestandlawnginja it helped
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
awesome
@katimavik43
@katimavik43 5 жыл бұрын
Not your It is you're.
@fordtechchris
@fordtechchris 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Should have Ben yore.
@pestandlawnginja
@pestandlawnginja 4 жыл бұрын
You both win
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