Ice Spice & Cleo Weren't REAL Friends + Joe Budden Weighs in on Drama | Reaction

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Dee Shanell

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@JaxJJax
@JaxJJax 2 ай бұрын
I feel like points keep being missed 1. why couldn’t cleo get a hands up on hotels so she could book in advance 2. Why couldnt she be taken to get food that she was willing to pay for? 3. Why would ice say she could pay her security to carry her luggage but then wouldn’t let her 4. Why did they get steaks behind her back knowing they in the middle of nowhere
@hellcomplex
@hellcomplex 2 ай бұрын
fr, i feel like two sides can both be right and/or wrong but it's no point in dissecting it if people aren't going to go through all the details
@katybrad5369
@katybrad5369 2 ай бұрын
And it wasn't just behind Cleo's back. The make-up artist and hair stylist also didn't get to eat. Grimy behavior.
@hellcomplex
@hellcomplex 2 ай бұрын
@@katybrad5369 right it's giving y'all are beneath me vibes. stay in y'all place vibes or you'll get pushed back to it vibes. not cutesy, not demure at all 😭
@MercedesAllure
@MercedesAllure 2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@sdc1961
@sdc1961 2 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I got from this and I don’t even follow any of these people.
@martha6773
@martha6773 2 ай бұрын
Cleo is wrong for not verifying but we are not going to gloss over ice’s behavior towards her forget the money and hotels and stuff she did not treat that girl like she invited her at allll 🤣🤣 and if she clearly had issues with Cleo why didn’t she say anything and tell her she needs to handle her own stuff after the bag situation 🤷🏾‍♀️
@katybrad5369
@katybrad5369 2 ай бұрын
Did y'all pause and read the messages. Cleo didn't even come at her disrespectful. Simply expressed how she felt. Ice could've said sorry you felt that way and left it at that. Calling her a bum, broke and career-less just shows Ice's ugly personality
@Tasty_Tango45
@Tasty_Tango45 2 ай бұрын
In what universe is saying “you move mad weird” not disrespectful, I feel like some of you are choosing to ignore that Cleo definitely was coming at Ice when most of that should’ve been directed to either Ice’s team or Cleo’s own team who should’ve actually made sure she was okay. She is a whole adult and this is a business, what are people not understanding about that? 😂
@fremybaby1190
@fremybaby1190 2 ай бұрын
@@Tasty_Tango45 these people are delusional, Cleo's text was mad disrespectful
@Tasty_Tango45
@Tasty_Tango45 2 ай бұрын
@@cutevirgo1996 That large ass paragraph probably confused her because not once did we hear at any point that Cleo vocally talk to Ice about any of the issues she had. If they were so close (which they weren’t if we’re being real) Cleo should’ve had no problem bringing that up to Ice herself instead of holding it in and bringing it the internet. Plus the fact of Cleo trying to purposely make Ice look bad (which she literally showed in the text messages where she basically said “I’mma make a story time about this.”) Also, treated like what? Ice did her part and gave her a space to let her head she never once said she would pay for every single thing Cleo needed and as a adult you have to lay with the responsibility that you hold. Cleo wasn’t prepared and ready to go on tour, so that is no one but Cleo and her team’s fault. Yall are showing you would rather blame other people than admit your own wrongdoings, if I was Ice and my “friend” tried to spring all this crap on me after the situation had wrapped up I would be pissed too.
@rai2423
@rai2423 2 ай бұрын
@@Tasty_Tango45If you think saying someone is moving weird is the same as accusing your friend of cheating and calling them a bum, then you’re delusional 😂
@Tasty_Tango45
@Tasty_Tango45 2 ай бұрын
@@rai2423 Where in my comment did I say that? Oh right I didn’t, weather or not Ice was rude, Cleo texted her first with that long paragraph and called her weird I never mentioned weather or not it was comparable, both sides were rude but Cleo saying that meant she started the interaction like that, period. And from that point Ice had the choice of weather or not she wanted to escalate it and she did as we can see. Yall be so pressed to jump to conclusions and assume you don’t comprehend what you’re reading, but be blessed. ✌️
@sdc1961
@sdc1961 2 ай бұрын
This is Joe’s take. Dee two things can be true. Just because people are calling out Ice doesn’t mean we don’t think Cleo made mistakes along the way. I’m sorry but I’ve also heard from artist who have been invited as an opener saying Cleo’s ask was the bare minimum. Yes Cleo went wrong not including her team (even when told not to). However, I’m still stuck on how her friend treated her that’s it. Yes friend of 2 years confirmed by Ice. They fell out then got back cool again like any irl friendship according to the both of them. Cleo mistakenly thought Ice was her friend. Her mistake, call it a lesson learned. Why sneak to have dinner, just be upfront about it. Why not feed your own hairstylist and makeup artist (are they not part of the budget too)? So they wouldn’t tell Cleo who befriended them on the tour (that’s sus af). Everything else, yes contract… I don’t follow either like that (honestly it’s the first time I heard of Cleo unfortunately) but Spice is effed up for that.
@meanstoanever
@meanstoanever 2 ай бұрын
💯
@Gabbymillii
@Gabbymillii 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! Ice just invited that girl to embarrass her, she was never her friend cuz how can you sit in a car and know your friend is outside in the rain carrying her luggage and you're in the car and didn't even ask none of your security guards to help her??
@dt176
@dt176 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!
@kanezagwassa
@kanezagwassa 2 ай бұрын
People are ignoring that cause of “business” as if they wouldn’t be pissed off if their friend didn’t treat them like that.
@fremybaby1190
@fremybaby1190 2 ай бұрын
Dee is SAYING two things can be true, yall have selective hearing 🤦🏽‍♂ the PROBLEM is no one was really acknowledging the TRUTH that Cleo was also at fault for this experience. Go look at Dee's comments yesterday, EVERYONE is ONLY focusing on how terrible Ice is and making excuses for Cleo. Dee's point is to acknowledge both sides
@wil1741
@wil1741 2 ай бұрын
no, cleo literally asked ice if she had to pay for anything. ice said she didn’t. and whether she knew what she would have to pay for or not, that’s still ice’s fault.
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 2 ай бұрын
That’s why you get managers and contracts involved. Ice don’t know wtf she talking about
@antbing1831
@antbing1831 2 ай бұрын
it’s still cleo’s fault cause she knows this is a business and the ice might not know about how everything works since it is her first time
@breezytwins9963
@breezytwins9963 2 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@antbing1831 No, it’s ices fault. Sure ice is a rookie, but Cleo is EVEN MORE of a rookie than her she’s an independent artist with very little idea of how tours are supposed to work. Ice invited her on tour, therefore SHE should’ve had her team sending over paperwork. SHE should’ve made sure that Cleo knew what she would have to pay for.
@jihadamcsween2677
@jihadamcsween2677 2 ай бұрын
She should have talked with the team not ice spice
@jujubee6030
@jujubee6030 2 ай бұрын
@@antbing1831so Cleo know this business but Ice don’t even though she’s the bigger star and has done more business ventures then Cleo?
@KatianaBonhomme
@KatianaBonhomme 2 ай бұрын
People are choosing to look over the veryyyyy simple but BIG fact that Cleo literally said in the first video that she was not going to do it last minute especially if she was just gonna be hanging around in the back when she’s an artist herself and has stuff at home to do. Ice spice is the one who convinced her and told her that she wanted Cleo to come on tour to perform in which Cleo was already wary about the short timing but felt like it was a gesture to make up their friendship after Ice spice was exposed by Baby Storme talking shit about Cleo and she thought Ice was putting her on. She asked her if she needed to provide anything herself because she said herself that she was gonna weigh out the cost bc she can’t just spend thousands on a tour she was invited on last minute, especially since her team most likely than not, wouldn’t have even cleared her to go. MEANING, if Ice Spice would have told her that she had to pay for herself, she would have DECLINED. The fact that this keeps getting overlooked is giving yall came straight online and didn’t even attempt to listen/comprehend her videos. This is a dispute from a friendship standpoint. Cleo came online from a friendship standpoint. She diidnt even mention it from a business standpoint because I’m sure as an artist herself she understands the proper channels when it comes to two artists working together. But she did say that this was her first ever tour and she didn’t know what to expect. She also said that Ice Spice brought other people on her tour like Cash Cobain, and ALL of their stuff was covered. If anyone should have came from a business standpoint, it should’ve been Ice Spice because it’s HER TOUR. All this gave was inviting my friend out and telling her I’ll pay for her because I want her to come, but then ask her how she paying for her stuff when we get to the counter.
@TONYLUXE
@TONYLUXE 2 ай бұрын
I believe everyone pointed out that it wasn’t a great idea for Cleo to go through with the tour but Ice Spice still should not have treated her the way she treated her. Period. People dont like her because of how she moves, she’s very Snakey and it’s uncalled for. Cleo unfortunately has to take this as a lesson learned but yall not bout to sit here and act like Ice Spice ain’t wrong as hell.
@parisgreen6737
@parisgreen6737 2 ай бұрын
idk ice is still weird all her friends saying she weird
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 2 ай бұрын
Her truth coming out.
@Rayaann
@Rayaann 2 ай бұрын
True but the people exposing her are odd aswell, so I’m on the fence personally 😭
@nauticudi
@nauticudi 2 ай бұрын
Don’t mean that cleo wasn’t moving kinda slow.
@MercedesAllure
@MercedesAllure 2 ай бұрын
Fr
@therealjayinspired
@therealjayinspired 2 ай бұрын
You’re right, she is weird asf. I like to look at each of these situations individually vs what type of person she is, bc most of her friends are just like her
@alyssag1983
@alyssag1983 2 ай бұрын
cleo was moving dumb but ice is still weird. All the stuff with the bags and hotel was cleo's mistake for not checking in with someone higher up than ice prior to the tour, but the situation with the food is weird no matter how you look at it.
@brigettelancome4063
@brigettelancome4063 2 ай бұрын
right! like if she’s my friend i’m not eating while she’s starving, even if i had to share my chicken salad like-
@mskeenajo
@mskeenajo 2 ай бұрын
No, Ice Spice is wrong here
@itztrippy9436
@itztrippy9436 2 ай бұрын
The coverage on this story is a little triggering tbh. Everybody trying make it seem like Cleo wanted Queen treatment but all she was asking for was common decency on a tour SHE WAS ASKED TO COME ON! Ice treated her like sh!t and was doing little petty things. Plus you can’t tell me that if Ice said “Grab my FRIENDS 2 bags too” they would’ve said no. Like come one. That’s like a friend inviting you somewhere saying they got you expecting them to look out for you and they make fend for yourself and try to son you everyday. I’m sure Cleo would’ve been able to carry herself if she was told that she would have to but that was not the case
@MrSmith-fl2jn
@MrSmith-fl2jn 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter when I express told her which I don't think that that's true what Cleo was saying because if it was she would have mentioned it in the text messages of them going back and forth at the end of the day. Cleo was responsible for Cleo, not a spice or anyone else. She was supposed to have her business together
@neishawnjohnson7602
@neishawnjohnson7602 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrSmith-fl2jn so WHY TF DID SHE ASKED HER ON TOUR THAT SHE DIDN'T EVEN ASKED TO BE AT??!! like what. Plus she asked prior to going what she needed to financially take care of because she asked her personally and literally a day or two before the tour. Ice spice told that girl Nothing you'll be with me and I got you. That would tell anyone that everything is handled. Plus, it was the way she went about everything. Trying to embarrass her in front of everyone with pointing things out, having secret eatings and ect. They didn't even communicate with her directly and she was on tour with them. Ice spice is trash all around and not just with the music 🥴🤦.
@jenr5771
@jenr5771 2 ай бұрын
I do believe Cleo fucked up by taking Ice spice’s word and not questioning why nobody ever officially came to Cleo’s ppl to talk business. As far as Ice spice’s behavior…. I think the criticism on that is 100% deserved. Whether as a friend or as someone who Cleo was doing business with, Ice just had a nasty attitude and not just towards Cleo but some ppl from her own entourage as well.
@galliano100
@galliano100 2 ай бұрын
5:38 she ASKED do I NEED TO PAY FOR SOMETHING. She said NO, YOU WILL BE STAYING WITH ME.
@art2asia
@art2asia 2 ай бұрын
And Ice had no clue what she was talking about when she said that. Before going Cleo should’ve talked to someone higher than Ice to get everything clear and understood
@LeeLlama-gy1oc
@LeeLlama-gy1oc 2 ай бұрын
And she didn't have to pay! Ice covered her room & board, she slept on the tour bus (even at times in the bed with ice) which Ice provided and she also slept in the hotel rooms with the stylist which Ice paid for lol
@tiana4102
@tiana4102 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but as an adult you should always be prepared to support yourself, and be prepared for things to go awry. I wouldn't even go on holiday without booking my own room, even if my friend said I could stay with them. I don't trust other people like that, and relying on other people allows them to mistreat you.
@JReece3000
@JReece3000 2 ай бұрын
@@art2asiaso then shoot me a text and clarify (if you’re my friend) and say “my bad girl actually you gonna havta be responsible for x y & z” like it’s not that hard. She just didn’t wanna do that cuz the bish wanna be the black Regina George so fkn bad lol
@ImStillNick
@ImStillNick 2 ай бұрын
@@art2asia after seeing this reply, you must be dumb
@art2asia
@art2asia 2 ай бұрын
Ice should’ve never invited that girl knowing she had no plans on helping her with anything or even wanting her there frfr. Cleo should’ve never went without any preparation or her team with her! Both were wrong from jump
@LeeLlama-gy1oc
@LeeLlama-gy1oc 2 ай бұрын
"Helping her"? She paid for the tour bus that cleo slept in and also the hotels that she shared with the stylist. How is that not helping her? Cleo is ungrateful period
@SaidByTy
@SaidByTy 2 ай бұрын
@@LeeLlama-gy1oc Cleo wouldn’t have had a room if the stylist didn’t invite her to sleep there. Spice didn’t arrange that. Have your opinion on who’s right or wrong, but don’t be disingenuous with the facts you present.
@art2asia
@art2asia 2 ай бұрын
@@LeeLlama-gy1oc I’m not saying either was right or wrong they both handled the situation in a silly way. Ice simply shouldn’t have invited her and Cleo simply shouldn’t have went 🤷🏽‍♀️
@niyah7139
@niyah7139 2 ай бұрын
No Ice was being hateful and the stylist confirmed that that girl was fucking nasty to her.
@art2asia
@art2asia 2 ай бұрын
@@niyah7139 I’m not negating that. But Cleo herself peeped Ice being a weird friend before the tour, why she expected anything different is her fault
@lunarblake
@lunarblake 2 ай бұрын
i disagree with this but it is what it is lmao
@arielwilliams4666
@arielwilliams4666 2 ай бұрын
I think people are more on Cleo’s side because Cleo’s mistake was miscommunication. She thought it would be a certain way but it wasn’t. Ice spice’s mistake was having a mean attitude, and that is not likeable to the public. Both were wrong at different points. Cleo can learn from miscommunication. This was her first tour so now she knows she needs more confirmation than the artist’s words. Ice can’t learn from shady behavior. Well I guess now the internet backlash is the learning device for that
@kuntykaa
@kuntykaa 2 ай бұрын
when ice told cleo she was "good" she should’ve talked with ices team and management, instead of just going with her word. i get that was her friend or whatever, but she should’ve made sure
@nn8742
@nn8742 2 ай бұрын
they aint even friends like that
@goodvibes7913
@goodvibes7913 2 ай бұрын
@@nn8742 that's the gag fr. that's why I make sure to have a backup plan at all times
@nanaas647
@nanaas647 2 ай бұрын
That’s true but still when Cleo finally got to bring an assistant her assistant was told one thing and came and they changed they’re mind . So it’s like huh
@zyehvi
@zyehvi 2 ай бұрын
That’s not her job.. why would she contact Ice team 😂 ice spice is the one who asked her on tour so Ice and her team should’ve contacted Cleo team
@kuntykaa
@kuntykaa 2 ай бұрын
@@zyehvi I meant Cleo’s team should’ve contacted ices team to do the PROPER planning and things of that nature. obviously cleo herself shouldnt contact the team that’s common sense
@idklol801
@idklol801 2 ай бұрын
It really sucks how everything has to be so business oriented. Cleo thought she was her friend and had faith in her and trusted her, it’s not her fault that she was trying to see the good in her at all. Friendship truly means nothing anymore.
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 2 ай бұрын
Please, she said they barely hung out like that and she was talking shit about her in text messages and didn’t really want to apologize. She knew she wasn’t her friend. She just stuck around bc she knew that friendship benefittted her. Which is fine but she shouldn’t double down on the friend point when she good and well knew she wasn’t her friend. That girl is young but she is from New York. I doubt she’s that naive and lets ppl play her that easily.
@idklol801
@idklol801 2 ай бұрын
@@babygirl4949 she said at the very start that after the baby storme ordeal she thought this was her trying to make it up to her and actually being a good friend. having faith in people is avtually a good thing believe it or not!
@Gman1998
@Gman1998 2 ай бұрын
That's why I've always heard you shouldn't do business with friends it can get messy really fast
@misstiff29
@misstiff29 2 ай бұрын
Nah Ice isn't that dayum slow, we have to stop coddling women like her. Even if it wasn't in the budget, as my friend. I'm reaching into my savings even for emergencies like food sis.
@p.g971
@p.g971 2 ай бұрын
Cleo is basically a Rookie, give her a pass. But she could still dealt with her problems in private
@zyehvi
@zyehvi 2 ай бұрын
Then what? She would’ve dealt with this in private and Ice Spice would’ve been PUBLICLY on songs saying “Just had a chicken salad and now I’m a poop”
@p.g971
@p.g971 2 ай бұрын
@@zyehvi Nobody would’ve have known people should mind their own business
@LegendaryTony.
@LegendaryTony. 2 ай бұрын
@@zyehvi bars 🔥🔥🔥
@rhianna..
@rhianna.. 2 ай бұрын
@@zyehvi😂😂😂
@zyehvi
@zyehvi 2 ай бұрын
Lol for real.. ice spice would’ve been dissing this girl on songs about having STEAK in a house, how she can afford hotels and us in the general public would’ve been like wtf is Ice rapping about and Cleo would’ve been punching them bags she had to carry knowing ice is dissing her but no one would know cause everybody telling her she should’ve kept this private.
@ShelbieMua
@ShelbieMua 2 ай бұрын
I definitely think there was miscommunication on both ends. But since Cleo is seemingly new to this and this would’ve been such a big opportunity for her, I understand her confusion and pressure to join Ice. However I wish they had someone like Joe to explain everything to her like he did here.
@galliano100
@galliano100 2 ай бұрын
but going out to eat without her is trifling. She didn’t even think oh let me ask cleo and the hairstylist if they want something to eat.
@jujubee6030
@jujubee6030 2 ай бұрын
Right! Lime at least let them cash app you and bring them something back!🤦🏽‍♀️
@spartan8696
@spartan8696 2 ай бұрын
Im not even about to entertain this anymore, ice is weird, period. Im just commenting for the interaction.
@DeeShanell10
@DeeShanell10 2 ай бұрын
Lol thank you, appreciate that. But ice is def weird, so agreed
@GreenTeam-re3jy
@GreenTeam-re3jy 2 ай бұрын
​@@DeeShanell10 sexyred is more weird for sure
@parkerisles7256
@parkerisles7256 2 ай бұрын
The context of knowing what’s to be expected on a tour is worthwhile to share but 1) Joe isn’t known to be a good friend and men don’t really share beds platonically like women do; and 2) Cleo wasn’t allowed to bring staff which again, is WEIRD. Saying Cleo “needed to involve her team” when Ice’s team prevented her from being with them is retconning the situation. Remember Cleo wasn’t allowed to have anyone backstage or on the bus with her, Ice’s team didn’t approach Cleo’s management about the opportunity and gave her a 1 day notice. This is definitely a learning moment for Cleo but Ice’s team acted unprofessionally as well. I’d also like to add, even if Cleo was meant to pay her way through, why didn’t Ice’s team give her an itinerary and say: this is where we’re staying, make sure you have accommodations ready; this time is what we have blocked out to eat, get yourself food?
@MikeyJae777
@MikeyJae777 2 ай бұрын
People have to separate friendships and business because it always causes friction. Joe is speaking facts in this clip fasho
@goodvibes7913
@goodvibes7913 2 ай бұрын
One was weird and one was careless, and I'll leave it at that lol
@niyah7139
@niyah7139 2 ай бұрын
No Ice was being hateful and the stylist confirmed that that girl was fucking nasty to her.
@montprice6722
@montprice6722 2 ай бұрын
Bcuz Cleo is annoying ASF! Obviously
@rewbi2196
@rewbi2196 2 ай бұрын
@@niyah7139 Apparently that stylist was just looking for a viral/trendy moment on TikTok and hasn't personally experienced/lived the events himself, so now Idk what to believe. This whole thing has the biggest pair of messy boots.
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 2 ай бұрын
That wasn’t her stylist, that person lied for clout
@Gabbymillii
@Gabbymillii 2 ай бұрын
Truth is Ice been had some type of animosity towards Cleo from before all of this happened, cause when those text msgs got leaked of her talking abt Cleo, Cleo should've been cut her off, Ice just invited that girl on tour as a prop just to embarrass her and make her feel as if she's a burden. Imo its way deeper than business, Ice just has a big ego and is very narcissistic.
@JaszJonez
@JaszJonez 2 ай бұрын
Can we also mention that this “exposing Ice spice” tactic will NOT benefit Cleo’s career. She could’ve separated herself from Ice quietly . Now with all this publicity she’s just known Ice Spice’s friend. For the rest of 2024 to infinity, let’s end friendships quietly 💀
@rayeeiffel480
@rayeeiffel480 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this. I found it weird how she texted Ice about it i stead of saying it in person. Like i’m not even an Ice fan but it felt like she wanted it to be over text just to get attention off of jt to benefit her & disadvantage Ice.
@Remember_the_Time
@Remember_the_Time 2 ай бұрын
​@@rayeeiffel480 the first time she spoke to her face to face she ended up being treated badly, maybe she wanted didn't want that to happen again
@Count_agious
@Count_agious 2 ай бұрын
@@Remember_the_Timeshe could have called tho 😭
@TreRhodes-i3n
@TreRhodes-i3n 2 ай бұрын
@@rayeeiffel480 she did speak to her tho
@L1Zxxzx
@L1Zxxzx 2 ай бұрын
@@Count_agiousnigga she did that’s how Ik u didn’t watch the parts
@yuhtrendz4887
@yuhtrendz4887 2 ай бұрын
LMFAOOO NOT “it makes cleo look even worse” 😂
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 2 ай бұрын
Cleo seems extremely naive. I didn’t understand why she wanted to sleep with ice in her bed in the tour bus either. All she had to do was talk to her team and they could have cleared everything up or should have. She expected to be treated the same as ice and that’s not how that works for opening acts. She expected it because she is her friend. No friend privileges are getting the opportunity to open up for ice, friend privileges is not ice’s team to take care of her.
@gegebeltran253
@gegebeltran253 2 ай бұрын
I think ice knew this was Cleo’s first tour and she used that. When Cleo asked what she needed to pay for Ice should’ve told her or if she wasn’t sure, direct her to the manager or label. I’m sorry but Ice clearly wasn’t Cleo’s friend. Personally I think Cleo took too much disrespect. I would’ve left the tour in Philly. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Cleo’s expectations were way too high. But then again Cleo did say that she never kicked it with Ice like real friends it was always a moment or a spotlight. Girl Ice had to make it seem like she wasn’t colorist. You already knew the vibes and should have declined the tour. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@parkerisles7256
@parkerisles7256 2 ай бұрын
I think people arguing “that’s just business” are ignoring how unprofessional Ice’s team is. The first thing you do is contact an artist’s management about an opportunity, not tell the artist “you have 1 day to pack.” They definitely wanted to exploit Cleo which is why her team was shut out (no one allowed backstage nor on the bus).
@gegebeltran253
@gegebeltran253 2 ай бұрын
@@parkerisles7256 yeah I agree. People have been skipping the fact that Cleo is inexperienced, don’t know what’s going on and also that spice and her team are very unprofessional. She doesn’t have say so on her tour and yet she at the last minute decided she wanted to include Cleo… make it make sense
@parkerisles7256
@parkerisles7256 2 ай бұрын
@@gegebeltran253 I also think it’s strange that Cleo wasn’t given an itinerary about the tour. If she was actually meant to pay, they should’ve given her details regarding where to book accommodations and when she needed to get herself food. One of the first things Cleo asked was, “what do I need to pay for?” and it’s on Ice’s team to give Cleo the details since they approached her instead of her management.
@SadesBD
@SadesBD 2 ай бұрын
Still infantilizing Cleo lmao
@meanstoanever
@meanstoanever 2 ай бұрын
They both definitely in the wrong. Cleo was naive to believe Ice. But Ice is evil for what she did.
@Sherrybbyx
@Sherrybbyx Ай бұрын
I feel like people WANT this to be real because they hate ice spice and also they want every opportunity to bring her down but this one was not her fault.
@Kevin.Costner.
@Kevin.Costner. 2 ай бұрын
Joe’s hilarious “like can i Wash my nuts” for a second
@Timestampzz
@Timestampzz 2 ай бұрын
13:13 - she said in the beginning that before the tour when ice spice told her she was good, she asked her what all she needed to pay for and have ready. But i do agree on u with Cleo being slow for goingon the tour when they weren't that cool.
@KOJOREADSANDPLAYSSPORTS
@KOJOREADSANDPLAYSSPORTS 2 ай бұрын
Dee spitting them fax!
@danadonna633
@danadonna633 Ай бұрын
Dee I feel like there were other things that we were talking about that made us feel a type of way
@AdoseofAlana_
@AdoseofAlana_ 2 ай бұрын
Accountability definitely depends on who you watch. LovelyTi was very fair with her assessment, she called out Cleo and Ice Spice appropriately. Things could have been handled better by BOTH parties. On Cleo's side, she should not have trusted her FRIEND, they should've still made sure they had the BUSINESS part in order. Ice told her "i got you" and she should've been going by her word, but she obviously learned she misspoke but didn't tell Cleo. Cleo should've been giving her management play by plays and getting advisement. I get that she was trying to maximize on this opportunity because what other artist was giving her one at the moment? None, but at a point you gotta decide either I'll put up with this and fill in the gaps myself or hush and deal with it all behind the scenes. Ice & Cleo both handled this like some 18-year-olds honestly. Both very immature.
@Shadow2pointO
@Shadow2pointO 2 ай бұрын
And this is why I don’t go nowhere without no money or protection. Stuff like this is embarrassing….
@dariannurse3950
@dariannurse3950 2 ай бұрын
I get what Dee is saying, because I don't think she should've gone and I definitely don't think she should've stayed. However ice spices is dead wrong for treating her like that, she didn't even make an issue about anything. She asked her a question pertaining to the bags and she let it go, ice spice haad her stuff put outside...she let it go, and it continued. She didn't even deny the fact that she was doing these thing purposely, she got online cracking jokes about what she did to her.
@amirchapman9003
@amirchapman9003 2 ай бұрын
This still doesn’t excuse ice spice’s reaction when Chloe did thug it out and literally waited till she left and RESPECTFULLY told that girl how she felt. You can tell ice was ready to call her ungrateful and careerless bro her whole reaction to a friend telling her out she felt was the thing that rubbed me the wrong way tbh.
@JReece3000
@JReece3000 2 ай бұрын
Idgaf bout that tour, and granted I’ll take Joe’s word on a lot in regards to the business side of things, but there are just some things as a FRIEND you don’t do. The problem with Cleo’s argument is that MFs been telling her for MONTHS that that lady was not her friend and she refused to see it until the tour.
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 2 ай бұрын
I feel like she let ice get away with a lot of shit she wouldn’t let anyone else get away with bc she knows the friendship is beneficial to her. She saying ice used her which she did but Cleo saw this friendship as an opportunity too I for one second don’t believe she didn’t. And that’s fine but don’t act like the using was one sided. all of this talk about how they were such friends and how she didn’t treat her like a friend is BS to me.
@Count_agious
@Count_agious 2 ай бұрын
I love how Dee stands on her shit and don’t b gaf what people think 😭🙏🏽
@adjones7859
@adjones7859 2 ай бұрын
Tell em Dee!!!! This aint no slumber party 😂
@deshanaewilliams2464
@deshanaewilliams2464 2 ай бұрын
I mean she asked if she needs to buy stuff while on tour ice said she was good and she took her words. Bad communication
@criminalpotato3273
@criminalpotato3273 2 ай бұрын
I get the legal stuff is one thing, and not saying Cleo didn’t make mistakes and bad decisions, but going out to eat with a group of people and sitting in someone’s face you know is hungry and acting like they are just a big back is crazy and vengeful. If anything I feel like people are downplaying Ice’s behavior and the way she responded in the text and the room shows the kind of immature person she is. One thing I don’t fully buy is Cleo texting everything, I feel like it was something specific outside the story that happened that made her run from that bus and Ice.
@gooflydo
@gooflydo 2 ай бұрын
This is why I love Dee's reaction video. You came for genuine reactions, and she is giving you genuine reactions. There is no fakeness, no sugarcoating, just raw, calculating reactions, and I am loving it!
@harwwy
@harwwy 2 ай бұрын
I'll never forget when Michael Jackson said he HATES touring. he said its "HELL"...
@rooo000b
@rooo000b 2 ай бұрын
you keep skipping the part where she asked before going if she needs to pay for anything and ice spice then said “no, you’re good”
@terranceporter2644
@terranceporter2644 2 ай бұрын
Some people see red flags, Cleotrapa sees something completely different.
@xakwonthejawn
@xakwonthejawn 2 ай бұрын
Honestly if there is a video that’s long asf… and you still wanna give a reaction to it! Dectective Dee video would be a fun alternative lol ! I love when you have your full opinion on hot topics even when a reaction isn’t involved.
@neotechx6114
@neotechx6114 2 ай бұрын
I think Ice invited her and claimed to accommodate her but when it came down to it she showed her true colors. Even if she a new artist leaving someone purse behind who you know is on tour is insane. Her staff needed to be reprimanded also them secretly planning things and not inviting her at all was odd. But Cleo as adult should have made sure Ice would have to keep her words by getting a contract in order. But overall ice is being dragged imo because people are tired of her tired of her music. Also the way she seem to use and dispose of actual black women for her image…
@Gman1998
@Gman1998 2 ай бұрын
Cleo gotta understand that Ice saying "you good" is not legally binding lol
@taogadsaenea
@taogadsaenea 2 ай бұрын
when did she say that???? she just expects her friend to keep her word...
@dnicole4236
@dnicole4236 Ай бұрын
Did she say she was gonna sue her? 😂
@taogadsaenea
@taogadsaenea Ай бұрын
@@dnicole4236 no.
@hao9508
@hao9508 2 ай бұрын
Ice spice STILL should have told her that she needs to bring her own money. That's her fault.
@rewbi2196
@rewbi2196 2 ай бұрын
@hao9508 Cleo initially offered though..... she was ready to pay for her own expenses, but Cold Seasonings gave her a false, verbal promise that she was "good" and that she's "with her", basically that she would be taken care of. EDIT: I do agree that JUST IN CASE, she should have brought whatever she needed.
@Literally_dangeleeen
@Literally_dangeleeen 2 ай бұрын
It’s common sense to still bring your own money 😭 why would you still go somewhere with no money ?
@LeeLlama-gy1oc
@LeeLlama-gy1oc 2 ай бұрын
Yall sound crazy, Cleo is an ADULT. She should always bring her own money and be prepared to take care of herself. Ice said "you're good, you're with me" because she WAS. She gave her a place to sleep on the tour bus and she even paid for the room cleo was sleeping in with the stylist! Yall are just biased because you don't like Ice spice
@ximie4206
@ximie4206 2 ай бұрын
why would you go with NO money???? what type of survival skills 💀
@k.c.4384
@k.c.4384 2 ай бұрын
Cleo did bring her own money
@Itsmedimond
@Itsmedimond 2 ай бұрын
Cleo is right tf
@deaijahmonay3333
@deaijahmonay3333 2 ай бұрын
Ice is the problem
@HalliwellSon
@HalliwellSon 2 ай бұрын
I have to say I agree with everything Dee said. Cleo should’ve made sure everything was good legally and with her team, but at the same time Ice seems very shady.
@jujubee6030
@jujubee6030 2 ай бұрын
Ice always screaming about she a millionaire in her lyrics but can’t afford a 10 dollar chicken salad for her friend?!😂
@InTheStreetztv_Reloaded
@InTheStreetztv_Reloaded 2 ай бұрын
That’s because she not rich 90% of these artists are not rich
@christinechrist2890
@christinechrist2890 2 ай бұрын
Watching it while cleaning up is so real😂😂
@anywayszx
@anywayszx 2 ай бұрын
i agree with dee. cleo definitely should’ve made arrangements with her own label and shouldn’t have gone on tour so unprepared. also, why did cleo assume ice was gonna pay for everything from hotel rooms to food like girl.. would y’all ever expect your friends to pay for you like that??
@jujubee6030
@jujubee6030 2 ай бұрын
Because Ice told her “you’re good” meaning you don’t have to worry about anything I got you covered!🙄
@benturner8181
@benturner8181 2 ай бұрын
Lmao, one thing you can never say about Dee is that she panders
@taogadsaenea
@taogadsaenea 2 ай бұрын
she also never admits to being wrong lmfao.
@tiarahudson4241
@tiarahudson4241 2 ай бұрын
You’re 100% spot on
@scoodaninee_9925
@scoodaninee_9925 2 ай бұрын
Ok that settles it the ppl in the comments just don’t like ice spice 😂
@johncastillo9339
@johncastillo9339 2 ай бұрын
(Relief sigh) I love when Dee rants. 🤓
@brigettelancome4063
@brigettelancome4063 2 ай бұрын
nah. if i’m your friend and i say im gonna take you on tour im not leaving you picking your own bags up in the rain alone, im not letting you be hungry while im eating good, yall don’t know how to be friends? yes its business but this is friendship too! the world isn’t just business, the golden rule is treat others how you wanna be treated, we learn that in kindergarten!!!!! yall slow and don’t know how to be nice ppl!
@brigettelancome4063
@brigettelancome4063 2 ай бұрын
even if i gotta share my chicken salad with her or my changing rooms, im never too ill to share!! yall can’t share while your friend is SSTARVING????
@brigettelancome4063
@brigettelancome4063 2 ай бұрын
sharing is caring, we also learn that in KINDERGARTEN!!!
@lilkeyla5769
@lilkeyla5769 2 ай бұрын
1:58 okay see that makes sense But I stand on what I said about them communicating it better, she likely would've had been more prepared if ice and her talked about what exactly 'i got you' meant and both managers talking about I doubt they both knew wtf they were doing 5:11 damn that's crazy, but yeah they still should've written up contract on it coz she just assumed 😭 exactly thiss 5:53
@The3Kings
@The3Kings 2 ай бұрын
CAN I WACK ONE OFF 😂
@MarqezRodriguez
@MarqezRodriguez 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you dee. Everything you said. Ppl dont have common nor business sense at all.
@40mg_nba
@40mg_nba 2 ай бұрын
"that is so slow" dee got me hollinnn 13:00
@Cieolo
@Cieolo 2 ай бұрын
Dee, why are you not a lawyer?!? The LOGIC is emaculate!!
@deshanaewilliams2464
@deshanaewilliams2464 2 ай бұрын
She did have money but they put her bag in the hall and her cards was stolen and was used
@MikeMulahMusic
@MikeMulahMusic 2 ай бұрын
I like to be neutral but where there’s smoke, there’s fire
@neotechx6114
@neotechx6114 2 ай бұрын
Ice was weird. Cleo was irresponsible. But i think the hate comes down to her using black women as her accessories for her image and behind close doors behaving like she above them. Like she had with Nicki and on top of all that she had been getting called out for months since her album drop for being astronomically mid as a artist. Ice hype is going down and if she doesn’t get it together by this time next year. I doubt anyone will have interest in her at all. She literally doing a saweetie run but she can’t hold on to the spot light by having a pr relationship cause her producer that made her is her boyfriend. Plus her style is nothing compared to other industry girls so she can’t even stay in people minds through that angle either. Also yes people have noticed she almost has no personality even in interviews she just give ny nothing more nothing less. She either needs to take a creative writing class to up her lyricism or get a ghost writer. I am not being funny Olivia Rodrigo did this exact thing in between album ls and it went viral. It’s commendable to see a artist working to improve. M
@dnicole4236
@dnicole4236 Ай бұрын
Dee watch the video from Cleotrapa stylist and Ice Spice assistant she fired. When Ice assistant asked if Cleo needed anything she put laughing emojis and said “nah she’s good you work for me” that girl was purposely being nasty to Cleotrapa on purpose.
@kelpshake0721
@kelpshake0721 2 ай бұрын
DEE COOKED BRO 🔥
@babygirl4949
@babygirl4949 2 ай бұрын
People are so quick to take Cleo’s word for it that they are not even considering that maybe that’s just her POV and that’s not how it actually went down. Not saying she’s lying but it’s her POV
@juscallmevell
@juscallmevell 2 ай бұрын
Go off D hell yeah 🙌🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🔥
@mermaidreviews4693
@mermaidreviews4693 2 ай бұрын
That how you know ice spice doesn’t have it like that because that’s how isn’t for the big stars
@DawnWoods-cp5do
@DawnWoods-cp5do 2 ай бұрын
I agree 1000% with Dee on this one. Both sides are wrong and need to be held accountable.
@TheBartyndress
@TheBartyndress Ай бұрын
Idgaf how much time it takes! If you’re not interested enough to watch ALL INFO concerning a subject, don’t be interested enough to speak on it.. Y’all love saying some stupid shyt with an attitude but sound dumb😏
@InfiniteCoreXD
@InfiniteCoreXD 2 ай бұрын
Ice gotta get her weight back n Twerk again cuz she losing her buzz
@MajestiBrown
@MajestiBrown 2 ай бұрын
5:14 That sounds crazy 😭
@jihadamcsween2677
@jihadamcsween2677 2 ай бұрын
I think the team is to blame for not organizing and Cleo shouldn’t have done it last minute if she didn’t know what was going to happen on tour no clear communication Cleo shouldn’t have tried to “expose” her this is bad for her business and brand as an artists. Industry education is important. Also who does something a day before that’s such poor judgment
@jujubee6030
@jujubee6030 2 ай бұрын
Ice spice needed a slice of humble pie so I’m glad she’s got exposed! Her follower count going down as we speak!😂
@javierramos3003
@javierramos3003 2 ай бұрын
I don’t even care what the video is talkin about at this point I just like hearing Dee opinion on shit🤣🤣
@creshawnford3412
@creshawnford3412 2 ай бұрын
Yeeeeessssssss go off Dee you ate this!!!! I 100% agree with you.
@levitativ845
@levitativ845 2 ай бұрын
these people were ready to jump on ice.. they’ve been doing it for months.. every chance they get. she’ll be fine tbh
@wallywoo6579
@wallywoo6579 2 ай бұрын
ice has had too many "run ins" with friends for her to not be a bad friend im sorry.
@SteveC-x6t
@SteveC-x6t 2 ай бұрын
Common sense to us is like a revelation to rich spoiled folks 😂
@kunigamisolos
@kunigamisolos 2 ай бұрын
:38 oml dee you dont gaf 😭😂😂 at allll
@jvd6330
@jvd6330 2 ай бұрын
Yeah Ice wasn’t right with her behavior or whatever but people not giving any fault to Cleo just wanna hop on the hate train because why would you do that on a day’s notice
@vpeakfiction
@vpeakfiction 2 ай бұрын
Cleo is using Icee too clearly. Dont hate the player hate game ma
@othelliusmaximus
@othelliusmaximus 2 ай бұрын
Nah its the other way around
@parkerisles7256
@parkerisles7256 2 ай бұрын
How is Cleo using Ice when Ice doesn’t promote her, feed her, nor pay her for touring?
@psyyykhe1010
@psyyykhe1010 2 ай бұрын
​@@parkerisles7256Cleo herself said she and Isis weren't friends like that, then WHY does Cleo keep hanging out with her?? AND Why does she now come online to paint a picture like she's been done wrong by a bestie when all she experienced was the provisions made for a rookie opener?? These 2 were never close! It's crazy at this point. Cleo thought hanging around Isis would bring her more exposure and I guess in a way it did. Only time will show who this exposure actually benefitted.
@odesseyg4179
@odesseyg4179 2 ай бұрын
They all weird. i hate ice spice and her music. Her behavior was very sneaky. Leaving Cleo behind with the other help and then calling her a bum to the public…And Cleo was straight up dumb. Shouldn’t have assumed and if she peeped ice spice being demonic and shit in the past… why not get her people involved to protect her and her assets?! Lesson learned.
@EduardoM
@EduardoM 2 ай бұрын
Anyways, were they both dummies? yes, Is the internet dogpiling on ice? yes
@Y2K-QT
@Y2K-QT 2 ай бұрын
Lmaooooo tell me why I had seen the original video you reacted to yesterday and saw your reaction and was like girl she explains stuff in the beginning, but I think in the end that helped me see ice's side better because Cleo mentioned a lot of things she didn't have receipts for.. and ofc now it seems like her expectations exceed the industries standards for an opener. Damn... Lol Thanks for doing a lil pt.2 tho! ❤😂❤
@Ceez888
@Ceez888 2 ай бұрын
This ice thing is all completely simple SHE SHOULD HAVE TOLD THAT GIRL WAT IT REALLY WAS INSTEAD OF SAYING I GOT U she asked that girl the day before meaning ice spice knew wat the situation was why didn't she ask her and tell her she would have to pay yourself how u gonna get all ur money together over night
@DonnKnee
@DonnKnee 2 ай бұрын
I swear people lack common sense nowadays.
@weazydagreazy9812
@weazydagreazy9812 2 ай бұрын
i was thinkin this i would slept on the tour bus if ice was actin weird like that loooool an in texas i would made shore i got sum food everytime i was on the road, just incase u pack sumthing cause u never know what could happen driving for miles in the middle of nowhere ,she was moving like sum liccle dumb child , when u think about it 🤣
@Saavamusic
@Saavamusic 2 ай бұрын
paperwork is key!!!
@_.varnelle
@_.varnelle 2 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of neither of these people nor do I know them for real my POV ONLY we can agree to disagree Only mistakes I think Cleo made was: 1. not having a contract 2.not taking anyone else with her 3.expecting to be treated how she would treat someone 4. Going with a day only notice and or not leaving earlier
@parkerisles7256
@parkerisles7256 2 ай бұрын
She wasn’t allowed by Ice’s team to have anyone from her team backstage or on the bus. None of this would’ve been an issue if Cleo was allowed to bring her assistant.
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