Ice T On Scarface And Willie D Grammy Fallout. "We Didnt Get To Pick The Songs We Performed" Part 1

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Ice T talks about how he received the last minute call from Questlove to perform at the recent Grammy Awards which celebrated Hip Hop turning 50 Years Old. Scarface of the legendary group Geto Boys also performed but didnt notify his bandmate Willie D that he would be performing their hit song "Mind Playing tricks On Me" and Willie D publicly confronts Scarface on their Geto Boys Reloaded Podcast.
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[@Unchained74]

I love Ice T. One of the realest OG's period.

[@alexandertheyhate6266]

See what happens when people don’t know the back story. Thanks OG 💪🏽💪🏽

[@jlflintjr73]

Facts!!!

[@jonsquirrel3661]

Ice T does what he always do: dropping facts and da truth, real legendary O.G.!!! MAD RESPECT!!!

[@robertepps2834]

New Jack Hustler is still a beast to me. One of the hardest and dopest rap song of all time.

[@cmoulden78]

FACTS!!!!

[@vonnieboy7878]

Raised like a pitbull my heart pumps nitro

[@federal6616]

Look - while in the Army I was tasked to monitor my boss daughter while he spoke on a podium. She was probably 11 but a little antsy. She'd break away and run around in shit. She looks to me and says...I bet you don't know the names of the counties in the Western hemisphere. I said No.. so she proceeded to name them. I said who taught you that? Your Dad? She says Yes. And now you can't tell me what to do. I said tell your dad this. At 19 - I had a $50,000 car! Now sit down. The boss said...what you told my daughter 🤣 CPT Brown. I started laughing. He didn't get mad. But he didn't know it was game from the Ice.

[@sith06]

It's not 6 N The Mornin. If Ic3 T does one song, 6 n the mornin police at my door

[@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551]

Wordddd He pulled the Trigger long!

[@robertepps2834]

Truth be told all of those Hip Hop and R and B artist should have multiple Grammys! Not just Beyonce. Think about it, in the 80s and 90s the music was way better than today and people sold more records back then than today. That Grammy stuff is rigged.

[@herbalman6337]

Noth-in to think about still just doing "White👴Zaddy's" bidding & entertaining in front of him with no ownership in absolutely nothing, the only thang different from the slaves a hundred years ago is at least they are 🧐$💰million 💵 slaves☻️with a 😃 smile.Hm👴💰🧀🐀🥺 Amen 🙏!!!

[@checkthis5980]

Comparing album sales to streaming sales doesn’t make sense today so you really don’t know who does bigger numbers

[@therealityofitall4819]

@@checkthis5980 Thank You.. Old Heads don't see that..

[@therealityofitall4819]

Dude styles and music changes with each passing decade.. Music isn't meant to stay like you left it.. I'm middle age and I like some of the new stuff (Not all) some of it is good.. You just don't wanna move pass your era and that's okay.. Never change unless you want to..

[@therealityofitall4819]

@@jasonito23 Old Heads are going to hurt you for speaking the truth.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AlldatJazz-rw9wy]

Truth be told, Will was making disparaging statements about a lot of things, and he said he didn't want to go, so why even get upset. But that's who Will is, and life goes on.

[@freddyb3380]

Any time Face gets some shine im here for it... ...he an OG legend that deserved an hour on the Grammy stage

[@waltergriggsjr4846]

Exactly ! Don’t nobody f with Willie like that! I respect him but he cry’s too much!😂

[@freddyb3380]

@@waltergriggsjr4846 dåmn I wanted to say the same thing but I let Willie slide... he's always complaining about something

[@HoldinCourtPodcast]

​@Walter Griggs Jr I disagree! Willie D is a GOAT too. 🙏🏾💪🏾

[@bonettawalker8685]

🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@thompsontroy083]

@@HoldinCourtPodcastexactly

[@barryjohnson4126]

Willie D made a whole song dissin the Grammys in the 90s

[@joshuasimmons6443]

And then want to throw a temper tantrum when nobody invite him to perform

[@shalamigri]

There is NO excuse. Chuck always had more bars than Flav, but they were on that stage together as a GROUP - Public Enemy. Willie should have been there too. They could have found a way to make it work.

[@skepchica]

Because they were both invited. Flavor Flav made it possible for white people to handle Chuck D. Face said he didn't know what he'd be performing til he got there.

[@PhoenixRising82672]

People don't have comprehension skills The Grammys wanted Scarface You had to have credentials to be there

[@shalamigri]

@@PhoenixRising82672 Willie D has credentials. One of those credentials is that he was a long-time member of the Geto Boys. Another credential is that he co wrote Mind Playing Tricks on me.

[@PhoenixRising82672]

@@shalamigri He doesn't have The same credentials as Scarface Let's not pretend that he does

[@marley1995]

@@PhoenixRising82672anyone who was at that show isn’t hip hop. That’s some generic mainstream bullshiiiiit.

[@kendricklewis4947]

The Grammy’s didn’t want willie because he’s been Speaking his mind on everything!!!🤔

[@listeningviayoutube7229]

Facts

[@2up2dnallday820]

🎯🎯🎯

[@drphot6050]

No lies detected!

[@abubakr5627]

That is not the issue. The issue is that Scarface didn't make that call knowing which song he was going to perform.

[@spiderpimp33]

That was my initial thought as well.

[@Morris774]

I think Scarface should have called Willie they have done a podcast or YT channel together. Just a courtesy of a call. No matter what. He didn’t because he knew it was wrong or he would have called and said something to him. Eminem said no 50 no me. IT’s courtesy and respect to his brother his partner. Even if he couldn’t make it right he should have told Willie.

[@ztruth7712]

I still would’ve had Willie D there don’t care if he was just standing there or not

[@natenasaa1775]

That’s your personal preference that don’t mean anything in business

[@ztruth7712]

@@natenasaa1775 it wasn’t business it was a once in a lifetime celebration and the song you performed had your 30 year group member on it who you have a podcast with so you speak to him all the time

[@natenasaa1775]

@@ztruth7712 and they called Scarface not the group not ghetto boys and if face didn’t talk to him about it I’m sure he had his reasons everybody quick to judge based off y’all own personal feelings when you don’t know these men dynamic and personal situations

[@ztruth7712]

@@natenasaa1775 so if I don’t know you don’t know either so don’t take up for Scarface as if you know based on your personal feelings

[@2KILLAVILLE]

Willie wasn't invited. They wanted Face & Everybody including Willie know Face is the Anomaly of the group. Willie stay bitter, that's why Queen Latifah lyrically Washed & Rinsed him on" Latifah's Had it up 2 Here" back in the day

[@Flexonomics]

Ice T- one of the best ever do it, on holdin’ court, respect

[@HoldinCourtPodcast]

Fasho appreciate the support and acknowledgment. 🙏🏾💪🏾💯

[@kalipooh3388]

Best to do what?🤔

[@Flexonomics]

@@kalipooh3388 represent

[@juicegawdzavo194]

No he ain’t 😂 ooooowe he made “ colors “ 💀 what music he made to put him up there.?

[@Flexonomics]

@@juicegawdzavo194 one of the dopest MCs to ever touch the mic.

[@davidpeaston8443]

No matter how this thing gets painted it still doesn't quite sit well regardless. It's more about doing the right thing, common courtesy and acknowledgement of who is important when others forget to mention or leave out on purpose. That's all.

[@JAHLEADINI]

yes people missing the point, why would he have to sit on the side he could do 4 bars and Face do 4 bars.

[@lateefbrown5945]

The Grammys really didn’t want to have Willie D on that stage. He has always rapped spoke the truth. Period ‼️Willie D said it best. “Now I Got the World 🌎 On My Nuts 🥜. Damn It Feels Good To Be A Gangster.”

[@oliviaabrams]

This is what I was waiting for!!!! A real OG to put this issue to rest!!!! I'm glad those two gentleman were able to talk about it and discuss it openly and like two friends. I hope Willie will take heed to what Ice said. I always believed Face was solid. Shit just happens.

[@robinlacue3431]

That's why we have to make our own 50 year tribute to Hip Hop; that' way, everybody can get their shine. I would like to see a paid review joint on 50 years on the Hip hop celebration.

[@Matt_Wilson01]

Yeah and what happens when that shit goes down, nothing but drama every time it’s a poc only event, time has proven me right no if’s or buts

[@marley1995]

Anyone that was at that Grammys ain’t really hip hop. That’s some generic ass mainstream pop. Foh

[@DM-nm8mi]

Ice T did say that when he was invited to do his part, he received a tape of which song and when he would do his lyrics/bars. Although he didn’t pick the song, he knew what song and when his part would be ahead of the Grammys, to be prepared. So it’s not unreasonable to presume all artist featured would have received the same heads up, in order to make the collaboration, fluid and successful. Another thing is, “Mind Playing Tricks on Me” is a GETO BOYS (group) song. Quest didn’t ask Ice T to perform a group (Body Count) song. So he was in no position to perform without Earnie C ( lead guitarist). I’m sure if there was a tribute to heavy metal bands, Ernie C would feel some type of way if Ice T performed (sang) a Body Count song without Ernie C or any other band member on stage with him. Willie D was part of the “BIG 3” members that are best known by most fans to be the GETO BOYS. Quest know how the industry works. He so mainstream now he can’t see the trees through forest. He gonna do exactly what his money masters demand of him to stay in the “House”. He don’t wanna see them fields no mo. They know which n!&&@$ to put in charge of the rest. That’s why they COULDN’T and WOULDN’T have WILLIE D on that stage. He one of the few BROTHAS that be exposing that type of reality about the industry and the current system we living in.

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

Yeah, this info provides all the context needed. There's no "bad guy" between Willie and Face. Face could've been more upfront, and told Willie he was performing, not just attending the Grammys. That's more transparent. Hard to speak on this, because outside of doing that podcast, I don't know if Willie and Face are really friends like that.

[@clarenceoverstreet882]

Context and maturity

[@joshuasimmons6443]

It wouldn't have changed anything even if he did told him he was performing. They called Scarface and as far as he knew they wanted Scarface to perform his song. He didn't find out what he was performing until he got there.

[@johnnyblingg]

@@joshuasimmons6443yeah but sometimes it’s the principle of the situation. I doubt Willie D would’ve told Face to turn down The Grammys, but to not tell the only other surviving member of your group when part of Face’s set was performing the biggest hit of their group’s career just comes across as shady.

[@joshuasimmons6443]

@@johnnyblingg I don't understand what part of they called Scarface to perform NOT ghetto Boyz everyone keeps having a hard time understanding. There was no indication that they wanted him to perform as a group or any group songs until he got there. When it was too late. As Willie even said, they both done performed that song solo on multiple occasions throughout the years so why think anything different about it this time. Especially considering how vocal Willie has been about his hatred towards the Grammys. He wasn't going to go anyway because it would have made him a hypocrite after bashing them all these years. I agree with Willie on a lot of things, but the way he reacted and handled this situation I have absolutely no respect for.

[@johnnyblingg]

@@joshuasimmons6443 Bruh unless Scarface was on the side of the stage when they asked him to perform, i don’t know how you’re tryna rationalize Face not calling Willie or just shooting him a text about the offer. This ain’t the 80s/90s no more. Face could’ve called him, texted him, Facetimed him, emailed him, etc. I get what you’re saying, but I also understand that if i’m going to perform the biggest song of a group I was a part of for the 50th anniversary of hip hop at the Grammys, I would at least give the ONLY SURVIVING MEMBER of my group at heads up about what was asked of me. Just to see if they might make it or how they felt about the situation. I think Willie D. would’ve just said, “nah F the Grammys, do your thang bro”. But we’ll never know because Face never called…

[@officialyomaaj4473]

ICET is solid! Great job Court..God bless💯

[@HoldinCourtPodcast]

Already!

[@MrletemknowNJ]

Ice T said they sent him the record. Scarface said he didn’t know. I feel Scarface was lying and now I really believe it

[@jabsandjointz1573]

Yep

[@ChrisGoldie]

Master gee was on godfrey’s podcast saying that there was some last min shid going on also.

[@joeblass]

Agree.

[@MrletemknowNJ]

@@ChrisGoldie gotta be ONE. It don’t take away from him not being loyal period.

[@jasonito23]

@@MrletemknowNJ Is Face supposed to be loyal to the Geto Boys and perform or be loyal to Willie D and never set foot on a Grammy Level stage ever again. Willie D been chose not to attend or be invited to these types of events.

[@renecruz8973]

TY Holdin Court for Live Ice-T today!🤘

[@renecruz8973]

Last I saw Tracie Lauren Marrow was at Aftershock Fest, good times!🤘

[@raysettles5991]

ice t you are a legend man much love willie d was in his feelings fr fr.

[@cliffordcolbert2129]

He wasn't in his feelings, he didn't understand the protocol of how they conducted the Grammys. But in essence he still should have called and said these mofo's invited me to perform and they ask me to do a ghetto boys Song.

[@JSINATRA5580]

Great take!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@Jameseditorofficial]

Scarface also said that he didn't know what song he was doing until he got there. And Willie D said, "I don't believe you".

[@travisstrickland7270]

Willie D a cry baby and jealous. Like bro he don't owe you. 😆. Short notice Scarface did what he was told. SMH

[@JosephMBlack10]

First time here today. Watched a few small clips. I like this guy interviewing Ice-T. At least I like their interview

[@Jbaz79]

I hope sometime this year we’ll get to see one long show dedicated to 50 years of hip hop.So many contributors over the years they all deserve their flowers 14 minutes is way to short.

[@jabbad2992]

They knew what they was doing by just calling one out of two of the group. Also never let outside divide and conquer inside.

[@troydogg2716]

Ice T speaking Knowledge

[@drphot6050]

Yeah but the n-word part

[@NoLineNoWait123AbC]

@@drphot6050 😏

[@Lean6]

I finally saw that Grammy medley yesterday. After seeing it, I feel even MORE like Willie D was str8 wrong for how he rolled up on Scarface. Couldn't have an ongoing business relationship with a "friend" that's gonna pull that kind of crap.

[@theplightandstruggleofblac9672]

Very interesting 🧐. I’m glad Scarface and Willie D are still Kool!👑❤️👊🏿

[@sadiki227]

Face said he was told last minute, and if he did know the song until he got there I see Face's point of view, but I understand Willie feeling slighted too.

[@philc2460]

Well ice t kinda made it seem they knew the song they was performing because they got tapes of what order they were going in

[@sadiki227]

@Phil C He still said he didn't know the sing til they got there. All they knew was the order in which they were performing not what they were performing. And Ice even said that much. Ice even said he got the call on Wednesday, so he had to rush to book his transport out.

[@philc2460]

@@sadiki227 so what they sent a tape with them telling them the order, I doubt that I would think they got the arrangement of the show which would include the song and ice said if they didn't want to do it they would just take them out rotation, that's what I got from what Ice t said.... Again no way they got a tape saying well it will be PE then Scarface and next Ice t then after that queen latifah etc etc... 😂 ...... Seriously tho I think they knew what song they would perform to at least prepare, Scarface was just trying to save face when he said he didn't know

[@philc2460]

@@sadiki227 and I just watch it again and Ice t said verbatim "we didn't pick the song quest love picked the song, then he said we got a tape of the songs" so yes Scarface knew what he was performing...... And also face told Willie D I'm going to the Grammys... Not I'm performing at the Grammys

[@sadiki227]

@Phil C Facr said he found out when he got there.

[@monroehatcher3844]

I Love Ice-T's take. I understand both perspectives. #GetoBoys4LiFE

[@robertscott1983]

Exactly what I been saying. There wasn’t enough time.

[@melrock6356]

T always show why he's a G how he str8in this out for these Brothas💯👌

[@fanofafan6480]

Inviting Willie D to the Grammys is like inviting a black man to a Klan rally.

[@aaronhoward8978]

😂😂😂😂

[@falasha1st]

Glad you clarified that OG Ice T

[@yabwoy07]

Face said on the podcast that he told Willie d he was going to do it Will thought he was going to do a solo song. Why are folks missing this fact and trying to say face didn’t tell Will he was performing just to make face look bad? I don’t understand this

[@waltergriggsjr4846]

Because they blind n don’t wanna acknowledge that!

[@ChrisGoldie]

Because mfs feed off the bs

[@philc2460]

He look bad because Willie has the impression that he was doing a solo song.... Which wasn't true because clearly face knew because ice t said they got a tape of the order they were going in. So I know it sucked watching TV as Willie D and see him do a gero boys song

[@PhoenixRising82672]

Willie D thinks he's a bigger star than he actually is

[@cbmpire]

Ice Capital! Keep goin OG 💪🏾

[@royaljai5009]

Will Smith definitely should have been there for winning the first rap Grammy ever.

[@brynellsidney3983]

He's doin a movie; that's why Will wasn't there.

[@TosereOjeme]

@@brynellsidney3983so they couldn’t hold production for one night?

[@robinvolpi]

​@@TosereOjeme Will Smith backed out last minute.

[@jasonito23]

Will Smith went broke after winning that Grammy. Then had to make a comeback. I wouldn´t want to perform that song either, with the contract cheating a 17 yr old out of all his money. He should´ve gone and smacked one of those producers.

[@billyray213]

AWESOME INTERVIEW...ON POINT STR8 UP...ICE DONT CUT NO CORNERS..STR8 FORWARD CAT ALL HIS LIFE FA SHO...

[@Tony-jw2jy]

Run-DMC found a way to both do theirs..Scarface should have reached out to Will an they both decide what to do from there

[@abyss104]

Smh, ok, where would you place Willie verse. My mind play tricks on my was a story telling joint. Where would Willie part come in at that would make sense to you. I make big money I drive big cars. Where does this part come in

[@curtis75black]

They did the KING OF ROCK intro. They both are rapping. That’s different than MINDS PLAYING TRICKS ON ME.

[@kennymcelroy]

I truly believe Willie D was gone be upset if he didn’t get to do his verse and was just standing there.

[@jasonito23]

He has to know that his verse didn´t shine on the song at all. When people listen to this song, they love the first verse and the last verse. No one cares about Willie Ds filler verse. He should´ve come harder if he wanted to shine.

[@nellatl]

Willie d disrespected Bushwick after Bushwick died. Then willie wants to act like it's all about Geto boys.

[@nellatl]

I think Willie was going to find some reason to get mad. He was jealous

[@skepchica]

​@@nellatlWillie D wrote for Bill, he didn't disrespect him -- they just didn't like each other. I don't think they told Face what he was performing until he got there.

[@superroboted]

The OG always speaks clearly

[@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551]

Hip hop head since 86 here from Jamaica Queens NYC a couple of Great Ice T songs that get no love is the Tower and lifestyles of the rich and infamous as well as Ricochet

[@federal6616]

Man just anybody can't pull Ice T in right after getting a star on the Walk of Fame. Either Ice T already knows Court or Court has a smooth ass cold approach even the Ice himself had to respect. Awesome that you pulled him in bro. It ain't no limit!

[@HoldinCourtPodcast]

Me and OG are personal friends. Ice is a stand up cat! 💯🙏🏾

[@caliclassicstv2024]

Great context It paints a better picture of what happen. But if I was Willie I still would’ve wanted to know

[@blackthought6133]

Willi D is coming diwn hard on these folks these dayz.. The Grammys are afraid if Willie D !!!!!

[@realgems1975]

Big ups to HIP-HOP! Fifty years, baby!

[@DottyGreenee]

I luv Coco and Ice T ❤️

[@AliPo-ne3yf]

1st tme watchn Ice~T was the 1st time I was scared of a actor/rapper😧.. Been came a~Long way from New jack city loll😭🙌🏼🌉💫

[@BIGBEATPRODUCTIONS]

S/O to Big Court put’n on for the city!!! #KcIsTheTown #816 #913

[@rhardy6721]

We needed this perspective! I swear I hope these dudes beef TOO hard over this. I love both of these dudes!

[@sith06]

Scarface's lyrics are his material. A legendary rapper doesn't need anyone's permission to do their own lyrics.

[@sammcglockton4920]

The OG

[@cantstop-wontstop2138]

Face still shoulda told the man what was up

[@abyss104]

He didn't know what was up until last minute. Last he said, they called for Scarface. He didn't know they was going to do My mind playing tricks. Yo, Go listen trophy off album. You will find out why they didn't call Willie

[@ChrisGoldie]

He did tell him he was going to the grammies yall always skipping ova that part lol

[@philc2460]

​@@abyss104 but he did know because Ice said they got the tape of the order they were performing which I assume had the songs on there

[@cantstop-wontstop2138]

@@ChrisGoldie "Goin to the Grammys" and performing one of OUR SONGS on stage at the Grammys are 2 different conversations.

[@ChrisGoldie]

@@cantstop-wontstop2138 like face said he got a scarface call. Not a getoboys call. Meaning they called him and said they wanted him to preform one of his songs

[@RanceRob]

Good context. Still feel Willie D’s point but definitely gotta stall Face out.

[@urbanchangewithin624]

Willie D was just saying “Brad, you should’ve called”. Even if I can’t come should’ve on general principle. It’s a Geto Boys song. I understand both Face and Willie’s sides.

[@PhoenixRising82672]

Willie D wasn't invited

[@MixxinOnChrome]

Glad it was hustler and not colors. Both classic tracks but hustler is a more uptempo and crowd friendly banger🔥🔥🔥

[@mrstanbmw]

Back on the Block one of the greatest albums ever, Q put the culture on full effect, he gave all genre of our culture on that one. Tevin Campbell a little boy killed it. Barry White, El DeBarge, James Ingram. and so many more RIP to the ones not with us anymore but that was the joint.

[@mrstanbmw]

Ice T let me state my creditials a playa from South Central Back on the Block was a smoker

[@mrstanbmw]

I'm going to play Back on the Block right now

[@kdaddy100]

What Willie was saying is Scar should've looked out and mentioned "Hey, Willie D is on this too. Can we get'em out here as well?" That's all. If they said no...then it's a no. But he didn't even look out for a brotha. That's what the crux of the issue is. And I get that. Don't front like we boys and you only lookin out for yourself. With friends like that who needs ENEMIES - Whodini (RIP John "Ecstasy" Fletcher).

[@DrYehoshuaBenEphraim]

If Willie was really his friend, not only would he have told him he was performing, he would have insisted that he do 4 bars and Willie do 4, unless he really didn't care and was on some self ish! Willie deserved to be a part of that moment, bottom line and Face's approach and his response is what really makes him look shady. I mean, it's over with, but that was foul!

[@2KILLAVILLE]

Willie wasn't invited & Everybody including Willie know Face was always the Star of the group anyway. Willie stay bitter which is why Queen Latifah lyrically Washed & Rinsed him on "Latifah's Had it up 2 Here" back in the day

[@jojodancer1743]

@@2KILLAVILLE Scarface did some sneaky shady bitch shit period. And when he got questioned he had a bitch's response. I can't look at him the same.

[@2KILLAVILLE]

@Jojo Dancer That's not Face fault that Willie wasn't invited or get the call. even if Face still would've told him that he was performing. I bet Wu not bitter that only Method was there. Bushwick> Willie D anyway

[@2KILLAVILLE]

@@jojodancer1743 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZebmopjnr6VhMU whole interview if you haven't seen

[@jojodancer1743]

@@2KILLAVILLE It's his fault he didn't tell his homie and left Willie to find out like everybody else like a fool. If you don't think that's foul then I guess we know what type of person YOU are. Lol

[@felenti4956]

Ice T is the OG

[@therealljfrazier]

I don’t think you have to get nervous no your part and bring it every time 👊🏽🔥

[@samsneadd]

True but the nervous vs not nervous isnt the point its caring about the performance like u said bring it. I bet if u could have challeneged T and been like ok i dnt get nervous BUT I am still tryin to bring a dope performace and be felt he would see ur point. The problem is he feels this way cause so many just comfortable thwy gonna get the bag anyway so they think i aint wastin all tht energy.

[@southwestced305]

✊🏿💪🏿

[@kevinrobinson4848]

Glad Ice-T is on the same page as me. Willie D stop blaming Face!

[@breezyjohnson5597]

Big black breezy 🔥🔥🔥

[@marcspecial]

They are missing the point. The point is that there are younger and older people who never heard of the Geto Boys or that song and for those people for whom that was their first exposure to it..Scarface is the Geto Boys. Willie D shd have been on stage with him…even if not saying his verse. Other acts like Missy had a whole bunch of people on stage.

[@ChrisGoldie]

If they didnt hear geto boys then face preforming it opened the door to them to go listen to the whole song. Ice t said it himself it was a mess nd face has a whole version of the song where its just him anyway. Mind playing tricks 94’ still slaps to this day

[@PhoenixRising82672]

What part don't people understand The Grammys wanted Scarface

[@madestcap]

I want a final Geto Boys album with Ice-T as replacement for Bushwick.

[@irandleIV]

Nah they can just bring Big Mike back. Or let Bun B do it. Geto Boys is a southern group.

[@dfree1442]

It's embarrassing that we still allow outsiders to regulate aspects of our culture. On top of that, it's people who have never had any respect for us anyway. It's "their fault", but more importantly, we have to hold ourselves accountable for allowing it to continue to happen. #SelfAccountability

[@brianneal2620]

Yeah right

[@DaMixWizard]

Da Legendary Icon "Mc Hammer" should've performed at the Grammys also...with the song "Let's Get It Started"

[@BinkiBianca]

Interesting

[@sirkeithvincent3574]

I haven't seen one of them Boss shirt's T has on in a while. Old school wear or maybe it's his own custom made.

[@feldercowart422]

Ice t should have did colors ill heard commercial use that song to today

[@llgoo740]

Face told the mfn truth! Willie would have just been standing there

[@user-mk8jm3or8i]

Don't matter...., You still tell your group member. He could have stood there..., He didn't have to say anythinhg!..., Just Stand!

[@Unknown-gn7uf]

80s hip hop rap revolutionary inspiration people don’t understand wasn’t just competition on the mic or beefing nonsense some 80s rappers really for community trying help youth really was for the youth not all 80s rappers was gangster or gangs some ordinary people some understood culture struggles some hated black on black stuff learned 80s rappers classy wanted have good time youth why some made records fun songs party with people message etc some people don’t understand not all them into nonsense crap some 80s rappers was against gangsters gang etc some actually poets Amazing rhymes lyrics learned some them really good word play didn’t have cuss or any that nonsense just words positive

[@fellberrysans]

Ice t came correct black men should never ever get on these platforms speaking down on other black men.

[@cordaroyblack2603]

I remember when Willie D said fuck the Grammys back in the day

[@craigstrachan]

As far as the situation goes cam partly understand why Willie D is upset but The Grammys did what they did and that's on them . Scarface did what was expected of him and it was done . Got respect for the Geto Boys and ICE T as the OGs of Hip Hop and they represented to the fullest . Respect and Salute to all of them .

[@Yenchantress1isaStarr]

Quest did not call Willie,plain & simple.

[@kasimowens6615]

I love me some Geto Boys Willie D Scarface they should have been correspond with Willie D on KZbin on my last phone my phone was stolen

[@nastystew6942]

My mind playing tricks on me was Scarface song first! Then it became a Ghetto Boyz song

[@haygoodthamobb7326]

Original Gangster Original Hustler Quadruple threat “T” we Love you Big Unc…next Grammy bring my OG mentor/big brother @CHAMPTOWN an @SHEKEYSHA them Harmons 🫡Fairport was present for your pavement ⭐️ 🫡iCe-T

[@drphot6050]

Respect to Ice T's for his take and stance... Geto Boys! Geto Boys! Blame Quest and Face for this one. No Mo Talk!

[@raymondmalveaux3978]

What do colors have to do with love

[@breezyjohnson5597]

Type in imma jones and see what happens 🔥🚒🔥🚒🔥🚒🚒🚒🔥🔥

[@2.T00T]

QuestLove pulled the ole divide and conquer and them folks gave him a check.

[@LeafErikson]

"Quincy and dem niggaz"... BWAAAHAHA!!!

[@ruffinboijrp]

Ice-T Right About This! This’s What I’ve Been Saying Willie D Tripping 😂

[@reneedonaldson87]

Willie D SPEAKS THE TRUTH Thats why they didn't call

[@lxstsxl]

What happened with lil wayne on the red carpet?

[@beatswork]

So they sent Ice-T a tape, but Scarface didn’t find out until that he got there.

[@ChamP10nk1ng]

This is BUSINESS, not no "loyalty" thang. Brad handled his handle.

[@philc2460]

Start putting business before loyalty soon they'll be calling Scarface illuminati.... Also I don't think u get paid to perform at the Grammys I could be wrong.... But if u don't get paid this has nothing to do with business

[@tjudah9022]

That shit personal because Brad let the boule music establishment disrespect Willie D. Why didn't they use Scarface vast catalog to find a joint to use for the Grammys? Never Seen A Man Cry was a huge hit for Scarface so everyone miss me with the bs.

[@rhasonjones4628]

@@tjudah9022 they both boule all of them so no one is a victim

[@ChamP10nk1ng]

Ultimately, it's not easy having Jordan on your team & everyone overlooks your talent.

[@PhoenixRising82672]

Thank you

[@yonelyon2607]

The point is dude was aware that he would do the ghetto boys song beforehand and didn’t inform his man. I don’t believe that he was told the day of the event. Why would they call Ice T on Wednesday and send him a tape but not do the same for Face. That was a 🐍 move. But I’m glad Willie addressed it and they’re moving forward.

[@smackwater]

Didn't know Ice won a Grammy with Body Count🤯

[@CypherDivine]

Willie could done some ad libs. I don't think Scarface intentionally was trying to leave him out with malice but just not being considerate. It probably never even dawned on him at the time. But at the same token method man was by himself, Spinderella wasn't there, neither was the whole Public Enemy, Jazzy Jeff and no Fresh Prince, etc.

[@Lean6]

True. But, I'm sure that it dawned on him. You can feel the energy from Willie D. I have a feeling that Willie D has been constantly on this vibe, and Face has been walking on egg shells and accommodating for the past 30 years. I just think this is what happens when Face can't make accommodations and doesn't decline an offer. WuTang members used to have similar problems with Meth. Like...these groups don't sit down and agree on who's the star even if it's obvious to the public.

[@CypherDivine]

@@Lean6 wu kind set up meth to be the star when they gave him a song by himself on 36 chambers and the first solo project in tical. Although some folks felt salty afterwards I think it was primarily because each didn't get the same time to shine. But fact of the matter is Scarface is that dude. Bush wick the equivalent of flavor flav. Willie ain't never been a dope rapper. He needs face more than face needs him. Willie is like Vinnie in Naughty By Nature and Scarface is Treach.

[@Lean6]

​@@CypherDivine Always picture these people reading the comments. Uncle Vinnie coming for you, dude. 🤣 I remember watching a L.O.N.S. documentary somewhere...Charlie Brown thought he was gonna shine over Busta when they started, and CB couldn't take not being the star. There are even cases with good rappers like Phife who went through that with Q-Tip in A.T.C.Q.. Phife was mad salty about being thought of as Robin to Batman.

[@PhoenixRising82672]

Take it up with Questlove

[@ememem6]

I said the exact same thing when i 1st the tape. Willie would just be there looking like a prop.

[@williefreeman3656]

There SHOULD BE A GRAMMY'S award show for only Hip-Hop/Rap and call it The B-Boys....but us Emcees fk everything up for ourselves, which is why we don't have anything official anymore.

[@kelvinmustafa2710]

It’s called the Bet Awards

[@williefreeman3656]

@@kelvinmustafa2710: What does The BET awards have anything to do with Hip-Hop/Rap?? Those awards will feature anyone, including actors and actresses etc. I'm talking about an awards show ONLY Hip-Hop/Rap. #1. Emcees(spoken words= rapping) #2. Deejays(music programmer, producer) #3. Breaking(dancers and dancing) #4. Graphiti(graphics, drawing, and art... Other than that, those are the foundation of the greatest music ever created and should have those people who provide.

[@willia3r]

@@kelvinmustafa2710 the BET Awards is corrupted as fawk, the small hats made sure of that much😕