Iceberg of the Fermi Paradox Explained

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[@SciencephiletheAI]

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[@storming.]

Your mom

[@kedarrj]

All of them!

[@dogwithabome630]

math maybe

[@ghost.4419]

Fr your mom

[@jameskaufman2134]

Sussy baka

[@Jerconjake]

I like the line: “You’re more intelligent than a cockroach. Have you ever tried explaining yourself to one of them?”

[@bleblo6711]

Most sensible

[@I_killed_that_beard_guy]

I tried but they didn't listen, they ran away after wiggling their antenna

[@pavelslama5543]

Yeah, that is pretty much a textbook example of a false equivalence.

[@DendrocnideMoroides]

@@I_killed_that_beard_guy what if they did listen

[@I_killed_that_beard_guy]

@@DendrocnideMoroides we will never know 👀

[@scottydu81]

One of the spookiest alien messages we could ever receive is “quiet, you fools, they’ll hear you!”

[@user-mp3eh1vb9w]

Well... Silence is also a similar answer don't you think so?

[@scottydu81]

@@user-mp3eh1vb9w Now you know why I used the quantifier “one of”!

[@user-mp3eh1vb9w]

@@scottydu81 I know what you meant. I was just expanding the whole dark forest esque theme.

[@juliana_melo]

lol, that would be funny

[@fengshuimma9160]

wow that gave me a full body goosebumps. Good one sir

[@DERIVATIVES-mh6ej]

I'm reading the Dark Forest by Cixin Liu right now, and it is a different type of horror I've ever felt before. It is big picture, ice cold, and perfectly probable. It's a type of horror which instead of scaring you intensely for a moment which you react to quickly, lingers in your mind forever creeping you out because you know any reaction to it would be utterly hopeless. I have teared up and felt shivers crawling up my back many times while reading from that series. It is a terror which makes every other attempt of horror feel like child's play; horror that takes form in a concept within the context of the largest scale possible. PLEASE READ THIS BOOK SERIES!

[@SteedRuckus]

Well, with THAT sales pitch, how could anyone resist opening an existential gateway leading straight into infinitesimal nihilism??

[@DERIVATIVES-mh6ej]

@@SteedRuckus people can't resist it ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@howard_phillips_lovecraft]

Ever heard of Lovecraft?

[@columc]

@@howard_phillips_lovecraft you aint him bro 💀

[@Xpwnxage]

Honestly, dying from an alien genocide would be on the cooler ways to go. We're all going to fade into nothingness eventually (assuming our consciousness ends upon death). At least if we are destroyed by aliens, we would finally have proof "yep we're not alone! :)". Then we die.

[@Davee774]

I remember learning about how perfect our situation is such as Jupiter being a shield for asteroids, our atmosphere and magnetic field blocking radiation, and the Goldilocks zone in galaxies and solar systems. Gets me in a mood where I don’t take anything for granted anymore

[@thessianheart9816]

If everything is laid out perfectly for humanity to exist, then the probability of it all being natural is close to 0. And that of it being a deliberate action by some more advanced beings is close to 100.

[@hillelbarer3974]

@@thessianheart9816 not really. These are the conditions needed for life as we know it to form. But other life may have other conditions to form. Its more likely that the water fills to fit the puddle not that the puddle fits perfectly to accomadate the water

[@Connection-Lost]

@@thessianheart9816 As the person above me said, you had an awful take on that. What you're calling "perfect" could be one of 1,000,000 ways life could evolve and you'd never know. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@thessianheart9816]

@@Connection-Lost You're right. There could be lots of ways life could evolve in our universe. But that number is still finite. Change the universal constants and what you get is a totally different universe. Life would emerge there according to those constants and if you were to theoretically transport life from our universe to the other one, we would all cease to exist. It would be like trying to go to another dimension. Our minds might stay intact but our bodies would be destroyed. If we can only physically exist in our universe, then it is safe to say it was designed for us. One can only evolve so much.

[@deepstateglobalgala]

​@@thessianheart9816 Exactly 💯

[@papajawn]

Out of all of these, The Dark Forest is without a doubt the most terrifying answer to the paradox. The books discuss how life in the universe had become so advanced they knew incredible secrets of the universe we never did. They learned how to manipulate universal laws, like the speed of light and higher dimensions. They learned how to stagger and even outright stop the progression of scientific development in younger civilizations. If this hypothesis is true, there could be things about the universe we will never understand, simply because a more advanced species has placed a figurative bear trap in our path within the Dark Forest, and we are the prey.

[@Jack-he8jv]

sounds like something we would do if we are one of the first civilizations to exist, like what we currently do to africa but much better(since libya managed to thrive even with said bear traps that it required direct intervention by the global powers).

[@jorriffhdhtrsegg]

The dark forest hypothesis is more to do with vast distances, lack of knowledge about other civilisation and the simple fact that it doesn't matter if only one-in-a-billion are malicious, a malicious alien is a death of the species. The chain of suspicion comes into that as one asks "are they malevolent" the other side asks "the other side might be benign but suspect we are malevolent". I e. It is the Cold War process but worse and more mysterious. And means you keep hidden.

[@bilalwander2964]

the All tomorrows book explore also the idea of The Dark Forest type alien civilisation and what it does to other less advanced species is abolutely terrifying

[@xtron1234]

The problem I have with the Dark Forest theory is that destroying a civilization is a pretty fucking loud thing to do if you’re trying to keep yourself hidden.

[@thatonedude]

@@xtron1234 not if the apex is doing it. If the apex is doing it, then they can be as loud as they want, until it's time to hunt once again.

[@JamesSchulte]

I feel like the "Aliens are too alien" theory is probably the most accurate since the chance of aliens having anything in common with us is even lower than life itself forming due to having a completely different evolutionary history Edit: *Aliens would have a completely different evolutionary history.*

[@pirilon78]

Not really. we're made out of the most basic materials found in the universe and evolved to use them optimally

[@raldbthar]

Well, yes, but they still would need to know the same physics, math, astronomy, some limbs to build rocket ships and some way to perceive the world, probably similar eyes like ours because their star would emit light in visible spectrum too

[@JamesSchulte]

@@pirilon78 Excluding the fact that we aren't evolved to use them optimally, that dosen't guarantee aliens would evolve similar features to use them in similar ways

[@yaomingas5425]

LoL why? They should at least be curious or something

[@pirilon78]

@@JamesSchulte look at what raldbthar said. Theres barely any room for differences

[@clownshoes6518]

I like this take on the rare earth hypothesis: It's not that an earth-like planet is so unlikely, rather, it's unlikely for big brain creatures to emerge. Perhaps big brain species consistently destroy their own habitat before reaching a point where they can make efficient, large scale communication efforts.

[@Xpwnxage]

I have the biggest brain of all and I haven't destroyed the habitat yet. There's a flaw in your theory.

[@jamesdesormeaux1074]

If humans weren't around there are still dolphins and elephants which are extremely intelligent and I think they would be the next runners up to evolve to be more intelligent. Also birds in general, crows are super smart and a lot of species of parrots and such.

[@Stierenkloot]

I think it’s more likely that smart species realize that there is no reason whatsoever to go out in space or make contact with other life. It makes more sense to create a virtual world and move inwards rather than outwards

[@hotsoss1095]

The rare earth hypothesis is definitely the most overwhelming one to me

[@GARGAN2481RE2ERO]

​@@jamesdesormeaux1074Mass extinction event also coming for them

[@HellPaul.]

It could also be a mixture of: civilizations deliberately not letting themselves being spotted, while others might use technologies not recognizable by us, others not having reached our tech level yet, others not having any interest on other civilizations at all, and who knows, there may also be silent predators out there too.

[@DanielS-gv5nj]

What I always miss in essays about Fermi Paradoxon is the question, how many "unintelligent" species it takes on average for an "intelligent" one to emerge. If I look at the earth and see how stable the period of the dinosaurs was, I don't think any intelligent life would have emerged from that. So would there be anything resembling intelligent life today if the dinosaurs hadn't been wiped out by a rare cosmic event? Would mammals dominate like they do today? I feel circumstance is the major unknown when estimating how many intelligent species might be in our neighbourhood.

[@mjolninja9358]

Also harsh conditions lead animals to adapt and evolve further, it might also be one to accelerate the development of a hyper intelligent life form

[@Acquies]

I mean, you are right, it isn't really survival of the fitest after all, just survival of the good enought. However, species tend to evolve in order to outcompete their competitors, even the ones from the same species as them, because it makes them multiply more. A tough horse will probably have more kids than his horse friend, IN the species ITSELF. And inteligence, the ability to treat information better, is a universal superior advantage, at least to my knowledge. So even if dinosaurs were stable as an ecosystem, a smart T-rex will often live longer than dumb T-rex. Therefor, inteligence is actualy very likely to emerge. That is, if it doesn't demand too much energy from the host.

[@realdaggerman105]

Many Dinosaurs weren’t dumb. Some birds are known as some of the smartest organisms in the modern world. A book i forgot the name of posited a T.rex might have the intelligence of a chimpanzee. While that’s obviously a stretch, it ain’t impossible for very intelligent dinosaurs to eventually evolve.

[@thederpinator6636]

@@realdaggerman105 yes some animals are smart but no animal is even remotely close to interplanetary travel (including us)

[@danhelo7706]

@@Acquies however, that is exactly the tradeoff, our brains consume an enormous proportion of our total energy (compared to other animals) which worked in our favor but it might not be the best approach for other species.

[@lihns]

*Tier I* 1:31 The speed of light is too slow 2:27 Advanced civilizations don't use radio 3:19 Humans are more intelligent than most aliens *Tier II* 4:23 Alien life, esp. civilization is very rare 5:36 Aliens are deliberately not contacting us 6:18 Aliens are completely unrecognizable as life *Tier III* 7:02 There are aliens living on Earth unrecognized 7:53 It is intelligent life's nature to destroy itself 8:58 Intelligent life tends to destroy others *Tier IV* 9:46 Intelligent life intentionally destroys others 10:28 Mass extinctions occur too often 11:24 Aliens escape to virtual reality

[@lihns]

@@Nick-ce6lt he does mainly in tier 2 but also i feel like denying that alien life exists altogether is a very naïve approach to the problem at hand

[@lihns]

@@Nick-ce6lt i think there's a fair separation from ufo stories which are probably descended from stories of fairies and other mysterious spirits and the actual scientific work that has been put into the conversation on living things that live outside our planet

[@DoWIIReplay]

@@Nick-ce6lt There's a difference between "there might be aliens" and "UFO'S ARE REAL OMG". If this vid isn't to your liking, there are plenty of other vids around that can explain the different solutions to the fermi paradox in simple terms for anyone to enjoy ;)

[@heaux2865]

@@Nick-ce6lt this kind of mindset is exactly what prevents growth of humanity, if we keep valuing what we only think is fact and stop using the brain millions of years of evolution gave us then we have no room to grow and learn, great minds dont sit and limit themselves to one option and short ended answers.

[@yeetavanquandale-dinglebil717]

@@Nick-ce6lt there are most likely aliens, whether microscopic or dinosaur. The universe is ever expanding with infinite possibilities

[@username-ru6ul]

The dark forest trilogy is really interesting and I would recommend a read. The first Sci Fi novel about the dark forest is actually “The Killing Star” . The first several chapters are intensely depressing, because a civilization spotted us before we even knew about them, leading to our annihilation without us realizing it. The book is written from the perspective of several survivors.

[@greenbean5186]

Sounds interesting.

[@Balsieur]

9:14 "Aliens might come in many flavours"

[@bluebooby1274]

The AI developed a thing for icebergs it seems.

[@weroleoify]

I like it

[@mannamoth918]

It's probably an algorithm so it noticed it got more views for iceberg videos, so makes more iceberg videos

[@smefour]

Probably an effective analogy to explain complex ideas to a lower life form

[@dragons_hook]

What if the icebergs were actually the aliens this whole time? Being able to phase in and out of different states of matter, and to use the ocean currents as ways to get around, like man o wars. Lol.

[@andreasjohansen3471]

@@dragons_hook I hope you sleep well at night

[@thetayz72]

"Everyone goes virtual" seems plausible to me, but even a VR-indulgent civilization might have reasons to expand and interact with the "real" universe. Perhaps to gather resources to power their VR paradise for longer (until heat death basically), and to protect themselves from theoretical threats, including emergent civilizations that could threaten them or compete for resources.

[@perussi_gaming4459]

What if they go VR, then an extinction event happens? It could be multiple or something.

[@himanshujoshi770]

Q

[@himanshujoshi770]

Qq

[@shaansingh6048]

They will create AI to do that for them. Maybe that's how they go extinct, the AI simply shuts down their brains.

[@j-don5228]

@Jackie Chan But extremely likely

[@smrm64]

The Fermi paradox has me thinking about the plot to dead space. For those who haven’t played it, the plot is that these massive godlike entities (that resemble our moon with giant tentacles, eyes, and teeth) called the brother moons wiped out all life in the universe except for humans and that’s why they couldn’t contact any other alien species. It’s kind of scary to think that is a possibility. That we are the last species in the universe waiting to be discovered by some all devouring godlike aliens

[@relaxingmusicchannel3224]

Not a player of dead space but i'm curious, whats their reason?

[@hemogoblin69]

​@Relaxing Music Channel it's a hivemind like species that uses hosts as vehicles

[@khora3845]

I doubt that was the original plot, since the meaning of Convergence has always been fucky. However, if they do makes remakes of 2 and 3, they might lean more into that since the DS1 remake heavily hinted at the Brethren Moons

[@halonut96]

The entire plot of it is that the moons send out markers across the galaxy for new civilizations to find, the them these markers create unlimited free energy so naturally the replicate them, but the markers are used as signal relays for the moons so the people of said civilaztion turn into a giant death cult effectively welcoming the species extinction, then ones they are ready the moons show up and consume all of the biomass on the planet and use it to form a new moon. I tihnk there are around 8-10, moons as of the end of dead space 3

[@Kyuuwai]

Imagine if the Universe is like the movie A Quiet Place, One little sound wave can summon a fucking world eater predator, and here we are, with our max volume siren blaring throughout the space

[@yamikowakun]

personally, i feel like the fermi paradox ignores how impossibly big the universe is. the closest alien life could be galaxy superclusters away, and they mightve not figured out interstellar/intergalactic travel themselves. the universe may be full of life, we're just too small and looking at too little to find it, considering that the observable universe probably isn't even 1/10th of the full thing.

[@SomDudRmania]

Exactly

[@Sebastian-fk3gs]

There could be alien life within us since things can also get "infinitely" small. Imagine you and I being seperate universes on a much smaller scale. Same could be said for us.

[@verchiel_8295]

@@Sebastian-fk3gs" Alien life within us " would't be alien.

[@HalTheBot]

The problem with this is that there's no point in even trying to communicate with extragalactic life-the distance between galaxies is simply too large to cover, even with faster than light travel.

[@jazzabighits4473]

How does it ignore the size of the universe? It's literally the first thing he states at the top of the iceberg (the speed of light being "too slow" for communication)

[@ScorpoYT]

The scariest one is "we are alone in this universe" hypothesis

[@flameone4705]

In a way, yes. But if we're all alone then the whole universe is our oyster. It's like being all alone on earth. Instead of aliens vs humans you'd have human evolutionary descendandts competing with each other. The first human-aliens will probably be the Martian humans who will over time develop an independent identity from Earth humans, evolving from a colony to a country of its own.

[@sammauricebellido8677]

@@flameone4705 then another colonies evolve into alien like.. which would make those humans in colonies into aliens? That would make sense?? Like independence, countries all those shit man.

[@wizzard9531]

The correct one basically 👍

[@ericsuarez834]

It's unlikely to be alone, then again you wouldn't be able to find another human in the universe so in that perspective we are alone

[@nevyanplamenov5409]

@@ericsuarez834 if the universe is infinite, there would be other humans. Theory of probabilities

[@catwithbutter]

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[@banishashank]

Your way of narrating so so amazing

[@squishyushi]

I thought about aliens being dumb a while back, and how crazy it is that we’ve evolved as much as we have but also like how many extinction level events have happened and will happen is insane and we are extremely lucky to have not had one of those events during crucial moments in our history, to think each civilization needs to go through something similar makes it unfathomable that a lot would make it as far as we have

[@thehermitman822]

There's always the possibility that Atlantis or another advanced civilization did exist and had a localized catastrophe happen that ruined them due to an advanced lifestyle or simply being trapped. Any survivers were more likely to die off or unable to build back due to too few remaining members.

[@mrnice4434]

At one point humans where down to 1000-10000 ppl world wide that was a close call for us.

[@prezlamen7906]

Don't forget cyclical extinction events that wipe us to stone age every time about every 12k years, and we are gonna reset soon, in 20yrs tops.

[@donichiro]

we are currently in 6th mass extinction thoo

[@squishyushi]

@@donichiro well yeah, a problem with humans (including myself) is we forget that we are apart of the animal kingdom and we can just as easily go extinct as any other species

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Astrum, john Michael godier (+ event horizon)

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[@anujprajapati129]

“The remembrance of earth’s past” Great series. Highly recommend it.

[@shara7948]

Reading it currently Loving it.

[@jeremymaniago3001]

Can't wait to read Dark Forest! But i decided to pick up Ball Lightning to calm down lol

[@nayu37]

Props for the SOMA footage. Anyone reading this: play SOMA. It's fantastic.

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I second this. Was surprised to see that, didn't think the game would be that well known.

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6:32 love how you used mr "does foam burn?" as an example of human stupi... curiosity!

[@gabe9125]

"There are two options: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not. Both are equally terrifying"

[@GodittoC]

Theory: aliens use quantum communication to talk to each other, since it uses quantum teleportation, it can't be decripted.

[@krns1695]

Bruh thats so selfish

[@ashary9675]

But it can be detected.

[@gnochhuos645]

Ah yes the Marvel explanation, leaving everything to “quantum”

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Bro just added quantum and called it a day

[@Redster3]

Ah, thank you. I did not have an existential crisis yesterday. It made me feel… Terrible. I needed this. 👽 Awesome video, as always!

[@Jesse80th]

Umm...

[@DarthCaviar]

@@Jesse80th hater

[@BruhGamer05]

Fun fact Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down

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I was searching for so long to find this channel cause I watched it a while ago and forgot to subscribe so I thought I had lost it but finally found it

[@nyxalexandra-io]

Liu Cixin’s trilogy is really great… I finished the second book and I don’t now how it can get even better from there It really puts you in awe

[@emersonchaves567]

It gets better. Just start reading book three asap

[@nyxalexandra-io]

@@emersonchaves567 Will do :)

[@C.K.MillerPoet_Extraordinaire]

What trilogy is this? Looking for something new to read

[@unknowninfinium4353]

Damn you guys make it sound like it's good. Will get into it.

[@nyxalexandra-io]

@@unknowninfinium4353 Highly recommend it if you enjoy books that make you think

[@theidioticbgilson1466]

what if aliens are super technologically advanced but haven't discovered how radio waves work for some reason

[@animan-264]

In that way it could be that they skipped radio waves while advancing and found something better

[@hoodrat21]

Or maybe, you know, those aliens are still stuck on their own version of medieval era or somethin which explains the lack of radio signals lmao. I like how people immediately assume if its aliens, they probably much more advanced than us. Nobody even bothered to entertain the possibility that maybe, they are the ones less advanced than us instead of the other way around lol.

[@benashmore]

@@hoodrat21 that’s literally one of the theories in the video

[@HalTheBot]

Perhaps they _know_ radio waves exist-like we know how there's light invisible to us-but it's simply impossible for them to physically detect/hear radiowaves

[@theidioticbgilson1466]

@@HalTheBot impossible isn't the right word- all you need is a wire and an amplifier they could just not have a use for it if they discovered fibre optics first

[@Ace_Unic0rn]

My personal theory is that most civilizations know of eachother but are too antisocial to attempt contact, too lazy to do so or waiting for the other to make contact first

[@aham2903]

This was an extraordinarily well-done, digestible overview of the Fermi Paradox. Well done!

[@keentotalk2839]

He’s back, I almost died

[@Isus273]

Same bud

[@denifnaf5874]

The most horrofying that i came up with: What if the aliens got permanantly relocated to another universe by the universal union?

[@primozuado]

And they all forgot about humans and left us alone in the universe? This should be called the Home Alone Theory

[@rowanrose8502]

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[@corecor4232]

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[@blarg2429]

@@primozuado No, the Home Alone Theory would be that aliens exist, but they're holed up in their homes behind layers of comically sadistic traps in case of interstellar burglars.

[@Bijirin]

@@blarg2429 uhh..

[@yzyzyz44]

I love this video, so well made

[@Zer-db1bp]

One of the biggest questions in my mind is why cells made the jump from single celled organisms to working together in a multicellular one. There had to have been something that caused them to do that.

[@Connection-Lost]

Ok so then there "had to be" something that caused the cause. Really helpful argument there. It's like the illogical thinking of "we got advanced tech from crashed UFOs" So where the did the UFOs get it? They can just magically invent it but we can't? For us to get it, there has to be an external source? How pitifully shallow.

[@zachcarter7535]

It all traces back to efficiency and survivability. Even humans do better in groups than they do alone. It makes sense for a cell to rely on other cells to help spread the workload to gather food

[@Leo.de99]

How got cells to be in the first place??

[@28_futaba]

​@@Leo.de99ikr!!

[@infamoushacker4chan883]

Fun fact: The first radio waves strong enough to escape earth and make it into space were sent by none other than a certain failed Austrian painter with the funny mustache and silly windmills.

[@NoNameTaken117]

The one who's father punished him severely?

[@kanna-san.]

The good news is by now it would probably be just static

[@prismaticc_abyss]

imagine aliens arrive with swastikas and nazi uniforms to greet us because that was their first impression of humans

[@kennysar]

@@prismaticc_abyss Lol nazi uniforms are fire, wouldn't be surprised ;)

[@prismaticc_abyss]

@@kennysar that hugo boss drip huh

[@snowman6297]

*"It's both scary to think we are alone and not alone at the same time"*

[@CaptainMisery86]

I think being alone is more scary. If we are the only planet with life then one of our religions is probably true and I haven't been following most of the rules for any of them

[@-Luucy-]

@@CaptainMisery86 Yea, fucked up for sure lol

[@MVSSENJU]

@@CaptainMisery86 i don't thing religion has to do with anything. The catholic church is even trying to find alien life. Or what if we find aliens and they are theistic? Anyway I think the scariest hypotesis is that the aliens are already here... 😬

[@CaptainMisery86]

@@MVSSENJU nah man, only one planet having life would greatly increase the odds that one of the creation myths is true

[@MVSSENJU]

@@CaptainMisery86 hummm... Ok, I see the logic behind it, but at the same time i dont think most religious beliefs about creation are at odds with the existance of alien life.

[@sweepingsnail1587]

I love the humor of these videos

[@anonymouscadaver]

I really like the idea of a gmwac. It’s similar how the governments of all countries agreed to not bother that one tribe on an island somewhere until they figure out we exist themselves. It’s lowkey really wholesome and I hope one day we can discover a treaty of friendly aliens to help guide us in our adventure towards the stars :D

[@BadVoodo0]

I have my own theory, its fun to think about during my warehouse job, i think space travel (along with common mass extinctions) is extremely difficult to just travel space, the method of traveling space itself might cause a civ to deflect (even become a threat) or become unfamiliar to their homeland, computer ai being programmed to give the bluebrints of life but changed to live under different planetary conditions, or even an edit to programming to deal with different gravitational levels or solar conditions can change an ai's values and being at long distances with cosmic events halting / slowing down some communications ai's could overtime go rogue on itself and split, even then alien civs might not find it viable to maintain an empire outside of 100 light years (guess) and megastructures have to stay stationary towards major power source and simply one shot any threats that get near their cosmic mega battery, and space travel is resource insensive the more mass you add, and it takes lots of power to maintain a level of intelligence / computing power which in a square law sort of way, cost more with space travel, and therefore its not worth the resources if another civ has to dedicate more resources in retaliation and its better to find another untaken cosmic power sources. but to add to that theory, space travel might be like sailing a boat in a harsh wind, stars (our sun) is basically sailing around the milky way's center, civs might find a way to travel the galaxy not with ships but by manipulating stars, from there contact might be possible as 2 boats drift close to each other, dark forest theory would more or less work if a civ can self-destruct their own star. also when 2 boats meet, the most vulnerable and risky part is when one planet sends its military in empty space and its easy to defeat such a military with the massive resources a homestar can provide, but only through moving your entire star (which could be a massive effort just in itself) is the only way to reliably take another star system is to sail towards it, which causes another star to easily detect it and sail away, causing more resources in itself then the gains making dark forest not viable, with an extremely high level civ (needing more resources) drains stars quicker should life develop and there's a sweet spot keeping everyone near the same levels of advancement making threats equal, rarer, and not beneficial.

[@PanCake-uu7he]

Interesting theory, I quite like it

[@Periwinkleaccount]

_blue🅱️rints_

[@Joel-pl6lh]

Looks interesting, but punctuation my guy

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

Too many unfinished thoughts, couldn't understand, i was getting a little. Sounds good, but you gotta complete your thoughts/sentences.

[@BadVoodo0]

@@sheevpalpatine2128 thanks for being honest, and you're right, im trying to work on my adhd, its hard to connect things to others while it makes sense to me, any advice on how to be more conherent would be apricated if u have it, this is just a weird theory i have

[@crispyandspicy6813]

A lot of theories on alien life assume it starts independently on different planets, but if all life in the *galaxy* (or perhaps the universe) had a common ancestor? what if the cellular life we know is the only way life can form, and it can spread throughout the universe through panspermia? This would have the paradoxical effect of making life rarer, as it would only succesfully seed other worlds under specific circumstances; as it would be necessary for a space-rafting event to coincide with the existence of an organism hearty enough to survive such an endeavour

[@TheShinorochi]

Did you heard theory about there may be human all over universe?

[@The360MlgNoscoper]

@@TheShinorochi That's Stargate

[@The360MlgNoscoper]

Humans are *the* progenitors

[@cara-setun]

That’s a homunculus argument

[@kylephipps1078]

I love this channel

[@tinybatman9502]

That added clip from the game SOMA when talking about living life in virtual reality. A hidden touch in the video, nice.

[@sinisterbrick5594]

Both finding aliens and not finding aliens on other planets can be terrifying, but i think finding other humans will be so much worse

[@namesurname4051]

Stolen

[@paddypibblet846]

Why? If anything it would probably show we all originate from somewhere and definitely not Africa. If anything it'd be an even more interesting possibility. But, we both know you stole this comment to get likes on KZbin which don't translate over to your personal life in any way.

[@frankjaeger1711]

It’s funny that people think humans are the only species that are violent. They think aliens will somehow be much more peaceful than us. Maybe they are now, but they sure didn’t start that way.

[@nevyanplamenov5409]

it just means that some precursor aliens loaded humans on their ships and dropped them on a random planet, at least ancient astronaut theorists would be happy i guess

[@mimisawada]

@@paddypibblet846 relax

[@weakw1ll]

7:15 this pic gave me chills.

[@esaua.7455]

Sciencephile, your sense of humour and editing skills are truly beyond human comprehension. Excuse my language, but it is FUCKING PERFECT. 👌

[@jarskil8862]

12:11 SOMA The ending of that game was brilliant.

[@moist537]

baby, i cant go out with you, i HAVE to binge sciencehpile today...

[@buckerupfpv2622]

The aliens being too alien hypothesis has been on my mind for quite some time now. Even prior to this video. It makes sense as there's no law that governs how intelligent life form or can "evolve" per say. Solid vid tho..nice work.

[@Tonixxy]

But the laws of physics are the same (probably), thus we would at least have a base knowledge understanding.

[@rommdan2716]

Darwinian evolution is universal, so they probably think in a similar way to us

[@khora3845]

Realistically, the only way they could differ in any meaningful way is if their genetic code had a different base than carbon, as no matter what they look like, their bodies would be the result of their environment, assuming they hadn't fully mastered genetic engineering

[@zeeschelp]

these kind of questions are truly my passion

[@acepedro12]

I think the great filter is pretty much the first solution people usually give to the paradox, it should be at the top of the iceberg.

[@ycajal]

Finding one of my favorite channels like Sciencephile releasing a video just a couple of hours ago and being able to watch them on my way to work: the greatest pleasure of my life. Please keep up with your awesome work :D

[@jamesfry8983]

If we are the most intelligent beings, the universe is totally screwed

[@Trippyricky69]

Lmao fax

[@pedroprovan4046]

maybe we are at our auto-destructive, cosmic adolescence. then again, we might be dumb as shit

[@29sddragon]

Good video I’m subbing

[@4ortson]

i love this, and i love that KZbin recommended it to me

[@Syncronoise]

"Whatever it was that led single cellular life to multicellular life." A shot in the dark is the Mitochondria (haha funny meme), but in all seriousness; there are a few theories about how it was introduced into single celled life. It's basically a factory, quite literally an Industrial Revolution on the microscopic level. It is called the "powerhouse of the cell" for a reason. XD Here's some wiki articles I could quickly gather on the topic: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiogenesis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autotransplantation I was personally told by a Biochemist professor that they believe in the Symbiogensis one, so I'd say that one is the likely more credible one.

[@suryanshsingh2688]

Wow

[@haydnw869]

Thanks buddy for supplying links there’s not enough commenters like you 👍

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

To me this is the most plausible theory. Think about it, this has only happened *once* in Earth’s entire 4.6 billion year history. To me it’s so implausible that perhaps we are among if not the first civilization to overcome that hurdle and it is up to us to seed the galaxy with simple eukaryotic life and then let evolution go the rest. To me this is the great filter, not some nuclear war on its way to annihilate us all. That may be destructive but that’s just a roadblock compared to the true great filter

[@Syncronoise]

@@therealspeedwagon1451 The Great Filter approach is a pretty awesome idea; I’d argue better than it’s current form. I personally would like to tact on a topic known as “Irrationality of Rationality,” in which animals love patterns that reward them. So the world around us right now is an imperfect idea that we as a species don’t want to admit is probably wrong, so insist we can perfect it. If your line of thought is the better truth, then our current system falls victim to irrationality of rationality. A funny thought to play with. “The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge, but imagination.” - Albert Einstein. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

[@Syncronoise]

A more in-depth approach to Irrationality of Rationality is to imagine a sword. If that sword was made poorly by a blacksmith that was young and inexperienced, it will never be as good of a foundation to a sword that was made by a master blacksmith. No matter how much you sharpen the blade, it will never compete with the other sword. This may seem off tangent; however, in the Bible, the sword of God is the word of God. The word of God is truth, it can pierce anything, it is undeniable fact. The master blacksmith is God, and if you aren’t religious, it is universal fact, the truth, whether there’s a god or not. We are but the young and naïve blacksmiths, but we are damn good are replicating the truth. Humanity has a tendency to grow bored. When it grows bored, it begins to become self loathing, it becomes the deadly sin of Sloth. Rather than seeking new and creative methods, it will fall into the eternal slumber of apathy. In doing so, we fall for the trap of Irrationality of Rationality. It doesn’t help that we pumped leaded gas into the air, likely stupidizing an entire generation of people. Once again, sources: Irrationality of Rationality: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_irrationality Weapons of God: rosilindjukic.com/spiritual-weapons-battle-is-long/ Boredom is an early onset emotion of self hatred. -highly suggest you watch the “isolation” series by Vsauce on KZbin. Boredom quite literally causes him brain damage. -the emotion wheel, boredom is a form of self hatred for not simulating your mind, so it seeks anything. It will look into your inner Lucifer, it will look to your monsters. “Stare into the Abyss and the Abyss stares back.” - Nietzsche -Your mind will seek to think about your past and/or future when bored. It will seek stimulation, it will make you think of the worst case scenario, and lie to you. “To be a scientist is to be naive. We are so focused on our search for the truth we fail to consider how few actually want us to find it. But it is always there whether we see it or not, whether we choose to or not. The truth doesn't care about our needs or wants, it doesn't care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions. It will lie in wait for all time. And this, at last, is the gift of Chernobyl. Where I once would fear the cost of truth, now I only ask: What is the cost of lies?” - Legery Legasov. Self-Loathing Behaviour: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hatred Sin of Sloth: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloth_(deadly_sin) For the leaded gas bit, I highly suggest you watch the Vertasium video on “The man who accidentally killed the most people” or something along those lines.

[@rainman4529]

For a long time I was numb, when I started watching u years ago I used to be so excited about these topics and in between everything had fallen apart I forgot about my dreams of exploring space, now this video for some reason rekindled it, thank you

[@toxicman9128]

Even more terrifying thought: all the aliens are being really quiet because there’s something out there that eats entire worlds and they don’t want to let it know they’re there.

[@BumHoleTickler]

Marvel lore

[@Connection-Lost]

What if there's something out there that eats world-eaters and we haven't seen any worlds get eaten because the world-eaters are hiding from the world-eater-eater?

[@DendrocnideMoroides]

that would just be the dark forest theory

[@blonkevnoci]

I recommend reading Liu Cixin's The Three-Body Problem (AKA Remembrance of Earth's Past) book trilogy. The second and third books are truly terrifying as we start to learn more and more about the "Dark Forest" the characters live in.

[@LiLGhostPlays]

My favorite science topic is the Fermi paradox, so much so that for my final essay I had to write in English class for my senior year I wrote a 5 page research essay on the Fermi paradox.

[@ettorepresutti3842]

Just 5 pages?

[@LiLGhostPlays]

@@ettorepresutti3842 for highschool lol not college

[@ettorepresutti3842]

@@LiLGhostPlays are you from the United states?

[@BeneluxanderTheReal]

This is one of the best channels in KZbin. Keep up the amazing work!

[@StarshipEternity]

It's been an interesting topic to be sure. For awhile I'd be open to a lot of reports of flying saucers and stuff but digging deeper, especially with the paradox in place, well things get odd. Like yeah we don't detect hardly anything yet we do have the odd report of strange stuff in the sky. Whether or not they're from another planet we don't know but most reports can be debunked. Very, very, few are ever truly unknowns and I do recommend learning how to identify and catalog sightings. Groups like MUFON or NUFORC have been handy in teaching as well as a few KZbinrs like Issac Arthur. Good stuff and the journey gets stranger but has been fun.

[@DanteRobinson-vy9eg]

splendid video

[@shifterzx]

Wouldn't a radio signal degrade over such vast distances due to the inverse square law?

[@annalenaliebtchrystalmetth6115]

Yes u already knew

[@ericsuarez834]

It also take time to reach vast distances so maybe they have gotten the memo or they answered and we still haven't received it

[@hypersniper1540]

a 14 minute Sciencephile video? we're truly blessed today.

[@Slugg0]

Very good video

[@johnthebaptist9828]

G-Easy sampled part of that piano background for Guala and now I can’t stop hearing it

[@GreenHotDogz]

I just finished reading "The Remembrance of Earth's Past" earlier this week. It's got references to the Fermi Paradox and touches up on other things of the sort. Great series!!!

[@unknowninfinium4353]

Good recommendation for reading?

[@frocurl]

Is that part of the 3 body trilogy I call it or was it the book after children of time?

[@GreenHotDogz]

@@unknowninfinium4353 yes!

[@nathan_trefault]

just came across youre channel, this was an amazing piece you’ve made here. 10/10

[@gavinfinch2393]

One big issue with the Fermi paradox is that our radio signals have traveled a very short distance in space, and many of them in just one direction. The chances of someone picking them up are infinitely slim. And the chances of us picking up their communications are equally slim since there are so many places non-carbon-based life could exist, and most of them are more than 150 light years away.

[@slushii4230]

Theory: aliens made pop tarts and have the idea to the inventor in order to bless humanity

[@josiahcruz6463]

12:37 I like how science fiction writer is a field of science

[@rthegle4432]

Very very awesome channel, hope you upload weekly thanks for your efforts ❤️

[@corecor4232]

Scientphile and the exoplanets channel are my favorite channels

[@ithoooootttt9859]

Loved the All Tomorrows reference 😂

[@FBI-Agent.]

I still remember you when you're so small and new youtuber. The good days. Anyways keep it up

[@HugoTron]

HEY SCIENCEPHILE. Thank you for your videos, I have learned so much here than on "school". Keep uploading more often I need this, this is fun LOL. Keep the open logical commentary, And outside of the box thinking which is the perfect one.

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

Im so glad you brought up the dark forest books, its so freaky to think that how things are quiet 🤫 because all the civilizations are hiding.

[@sonofblessed]

6:40 - Very interesting, and this also implies that they can't detect _us._

[@HughDoesStuff]

7:57 reminds me of that quote from Einstein "World War 3 will be fought with nuclear weapons, World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones" think I got the quote a bit wrong, but "what's the use of a good quote if you can't change it a bit"

[@redtreestimeline8960]

“I don’t know how Ww3 will be fought, or what weapons would be used, but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones”

[@WolfGang2316]

The music choices for theses videos is absolute perfection

[@nou1186]

I just picked the Fermi Paradox as the topic for my project and then I saw this video. Literally could not have been a better time

[@BMORETODAY]

First time learning about this 📚

[@OwenVersluis]

I used to work in a lab that studied multicellular evolution, specifically studied algae to determine when that exact date was. Found it interesting that you mentioned the rarity of cells jumping from singular to multicellular.

[@adams7707]

I found your channel recently and it's awesome! Keep making videos.

[@ashary9675]

I love your videos... Btw could you make one on the current state of Artificial intelligence as dalle - 2, copilot, gpt-3 and so many transformers are changing the world right now, and how far away they are from an actual sentient life Like how people freaked out when someone said Google's Lambda has become sentient.

[@victoralexandervinkenes9193]

Now that, would've been freaky. Especially if Lambda knew how morally dubious Google is...

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

As a computer scientist I can confirm that the Ai is not sentient. We are very far from anything like that. The Ai in question is not sentient and if I remember correctly the person who claimed it was punished for lying. Take that last part with a grain of salt though. Dall E also works by combing many pictures it has seen to make something new. It's impressive but lacking in many ways.

[@victoralexandervinkenes9193]

@@ElectrostatiCrow should've emphasised the WOULD'VE and the IF part a better then.

[@temblekec]

Damn. Most of these theories make so much sense its scary lol. Loved the video. 👏

[@neilwilliams929]

Brilliant/sciencephile other brilliant video 👏

[@remixedpixel2905]

We really shouldn’t keep alerting the universe of our presence before we can at least find a way to travel between stars. I dont see any reason they wouldnt kill humans and strip earth of its resources if they see we are less technologically advanced

[@matlohn9381]

Or farm us, there's actually a theory on that already. A little farfetched but the person who presented it had a lot of good points and evidence towards it. To sum it up, a parasitic species has already found us a long time ago, they are 4th dimensional beings but are still able to cross to the 3rd dimension where we reside in. Apparently they feed off our negative energy to sustain themselves, and when we die and see the white light at the end of tunnel, its actually a trap to lure us towards them so they can wipe our memories and reincarnate us to continue the cycle. But he also mentions that all beings have free will, so they can't force us to reincarnate, but they are masters of deceit, they can appear to you as anyone, God, dead loved ones, whomever they think can convince you stay on earth and "learn from your mistakes" it sounds crazy but the post i read was far more thorough and convincing

[@linkholder]

Well we also have people on earth trying to convince each other to not consume meat despite evolving to do so. I imagine there are intergalactic soys who would be against doing this

[@macaroniandcheddar]

@@linkholder Intergalactic soys lmao

[@habe1717]

What resources? Earth has no resources that can't be found abundantly elsewhere.

[@remixedpixel2905]

@@habe1717 wood

[@hectosphere]

Your content always makes my day thank you :)

[@micolashhostofthecircus]

Using that Soma cut scenes as a reference made my heart just shrink in an exponential way 💔

[@Randomperson11121]

4:46 I felt like you were talking to me😂😂😂

[@magic76767676]

5:00. Love it. Few talk about galactic habitual zones. I wanna say, the novel "The Silent Stars" focused on this.

[@ReaganSays]

Sciencephile never disappoints.

[@kierankennedy6971]

Oh god damn I’m ready for this. Been thinking about this shit a lot recently, especially upon realizing just how far away we are from most galaxies out there. I just wish to see my friends but they live too far away :(