The CHEAPEST* 6-Core CPU | Ryzen 5 4500

[@MaadDawg]

finally, i see my CPU on a big channel, this is what I have in my current/ first gaming PC

[@IcebergTech]

“Big”! 🥹

[@alcatraz6275]

@@IcebergTech The quality of your videos reflect a big channel believe me

[@mdnan]

@@IcebergTech The quality makes me forget that this is a small channel

[@JappoeGG]

Same brother. Ryzen 5 4500 with a 3060 12 gig 32 gigs 3200mhz ram. Its pretty good for 1440p gaming and the cpu holds up fine

[@JBrinx18]

I was just comparing old CPUs with KZbin this morning. A perfect one to end my binge

[@UltraVegito-GodKiller-1995]

Wake up honey!! Iceberg Tech uploads a Ryzen 4500 video

[@atoo7yt490]

I'm up

[@CJWall_rott]

I’m too tired

[@Wheatly_Portal2]

Bro it’s noon lmao

[@NP_Com]

Yes babe im waking up😴

[@FatCatFanatic]

I have one of these paired with a second-hand RX 5600 XT graphics card and, while it might not set the world alight, surprisingly it has so far played everyhing I've thrown at it at 1080p on default settings, and stays cool and quiet. Very happy, for the price.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 yes this tiny chip 🐢 pairs well with older graphics cards like a 970 1060 1070 470 570 480 580 and the RX 5000 lineup

[@maskedrebel9670]

@@MrSamadolfo cheap radeon 5000 is goated, got my 5700 xt for 130 usd

[@matthewpeter4034]

I use mine with a evga 980ti and it actually does very well on mid settings!

[@a.bamatraf6054]

is it playable on Alan Wake 2 ?

[@FatCatFanatic]

@@a.bamatraf6054 I don't have AW2, but I doubt it! 😁

[@EXiLExJD]

This has become one of my favourite tech channels, with such high quality vids you're gonna hit 100k subs in no time.

[@danielfernandezaguirre]

this and the 5500 are great for getting people into pc gaming. I've build cheap pcs with these for friends

[@darthwiizius]

I bought a 5500 2 years ago to upgrade from an R7 1700, it's been working a treat with my aging 2060S ever since. It's a perfect cheap upgrade for budget 1080P gaming, better frame times, random hitches gone etc and as my PCB is a B450 I don't have PCIe4 to miss out on either.

[@Dr1ftop1a]

Got to say, love those b-rolls! Lighting on point! Keep up the work.

[@marcelchoodecki7810]

That’s my CPU

[@marcelchoodecki7810]

I have it paired with an 8GB RX580, it runs macOS excellently

[@groza8179]

My 4500 been treating me alright for a year, really nice CPU at a bargain price. Pairs well with my RX 6600, make a really nice, cheap gaming + productivity setup. Might upgrade to a 5600 someday.

[@Flyon86]

Once price drops a bit r5 5700x3d seems like it'd be a nice upgrade. Planning on that eventually for my 3600.

[@darthwiizius]

I'm not sure there's much value going up to a 5600. My system is about the same as yours, it's a 5500 with a 2060Super and for gaming I don't really see much point adding more CPU without adding more GPU. I'll probably wait until I platform swap next time.

[@Flyon86]

@@darthwiizius Ryzen 5500 is a fair bit better than ryzen 4500 tbf. Ryzen 4500 is worse than Ryzen 3600. Also depends a lot on what games you play, some a better CPU can make a lot of difference.

[@darthwiizius]

@@Flyon86 It's a bit better (very slightly faster than a 3700X) but I think we're both still GPU constrained, except for in e-sports titles and emulation. But I suppose it comes down individual use cases in the end. If I pick up a cheap used 2080ti I reckon that will be more or less pushing the sensible limit of my CPU and system.

[@Flyon86]

@@darthwiizius Yeah, although depending on your motherboard the 5500 could be causing reduced performance on you gpu too since it doesn't have pcie 4.0. OP said he had rx 6600, so switching to a ryzen 5600 should give him a bit of boost just due to that alone. Personally I think moving up to a ryzen 5700x3d (or 5800x3d) makes the most sense for a substantial upgrade if you have a 3600 or 5500 etc. like we do and don't want to buy all new for am5. A lot of games like the big cache from the x3d and it should help with 1% lows a lot.

[@kynamthong7777]

Great video, as usual. This was actually the CPU that i bought for my recent build. Got to use it for a few months until I upgraded to a 5700X. Overall, when paired with my 6700XT, the thing was doing just fine in esports titles like CS2, but in games such as RDR2 or Death Stranding, there was some big frame drops here and there, which was a bit annoying imo and also one of the main reasons why i upgraded to a 5700X.

[@jonpeley]

That's my exact setup. I'm quite happy with it.

[@CaptainZombeh]

@@jonpeley Just upgraded to 5700x, found it cheap and gave my son the 5600g with a B450 motherboard, upgrading his Aliexpress special i5 2500 machine. Currently on RX6600 graphics. Hoping to pick up a RX7700XT or 6800 for the right price.

[@jonpeley]

@@CaptainZombeh I had a 5600g (I still own it) and changed it for a 5700x. My GPU is a 6700XT. Quite happy with it.

[@chomper720]

Okay the 4000MHz compatibility was interesting, NGL was amazed to see it actually work!

[@Derpynewb]

This is also great for basic home servers. the monolithic die means no more 30w idle power usage! For a generic desktop where gaming isnt the main focus, its pretty alright. Its a 3600 alternative thats brand new.

[@afos88]

Honestly the sound at the very end of the video made me think my PC crashed or something

[@SpecialEllio]

the fx cpus were found to be lying about core counts, the six core parts are actually 3-core 6-threads

[@loucipher7782]

its more like 3 core with 2 tiny cores in each so they call it 6 core but nobody care to make programs for such weird shit architecture lol if only AMD made fx with 3 fast core + 3 slow core instead it would be revolutionary at the time

[@oldmanwithers4565]

I like these chips, super low power draw and does everything I've thrown at it just fine.

[@tilapiadave3234]

You can't be throwing much ,,, my dog is tough because when I throw tissues at him he doesn't need to go to the vet

[@murutattack]

In Malaysia, if you look around the online store, you could buy AMD Ryzen 5 5500 with better performance, which is same price as 4500... but funny thing is, 5500 doesn`t have PCI-E 4.0, 5600 have, but with +RM50 ($11 more), you can get Integrated GPU 5600G, but PCI-E 3.0. Brain exploded 😇

[@zurgmuckerberg]

Same in Indonesia. They're priced really tight together.

[@luheartswarm4573]

I love my 4500 I upgraded from a zen 1 ryzen and feels like heaven and hell

[@EbonySaints]

That's an upgrade that makes sense if you got it for cheap.

[@luheartswarm4573]

@@EbonySaints my mobo gotten faulty sine a power outtage. So i had to change that to begin with. It was a combo, the new board and cpu, and discounted too!

[@loucipher7782]

i think this ryzen 4500 is meant for people with old or dead pc from the ddr4 era 5+years ago to make a quick upgrade to 6c12t the first thing to die is always the mobo so you can just transfer the ram, gpu, psu over and give your legendary gtx970 a new boost

[@rengoku2915]

Always enjoy your videos

[@loucipher7782]

I think this chip is just for people with old ddr4 PC that has Intel 6th gen+ with very few cores or dead mobo and has a favourite GTX 970 to do a quick upgrade to bring the PC back to life all you need is this cpu+cheap mobo and you can instantly do the transfer with significant performance boost to 6c12t

[@quisqueyanguy120]

Lol I'm in that situation, I will give the old PC to my little brother and make my first AMD build, I'm considering this processor or the R5 5500. Maybe I should go with the 4500 and next year I can buy a x3d chip.

[@loucipher7782]

@@quisqueyanguy120 just get a 7500f man if you building brand new lol the 4500 and 5500 is too weak unless you move your old gpu over i actually split my dead ddr4 intel into 2 pc by re-using most of the old parts and i have 4x RAM split to 2x each, which is why the 4500 looks attractive for its insane low price for a 6c12t. Now i have a 'brand new' htpc and a storage server running 6c12t for dirt cheap with new warranty lol

[@Gluttony1129]

Good to see my CPU in your channel thanks ❤

[@Xtreeteiro]

The VERY BEST VIDEO comparison about my processor so Far! Tons of details. Thats what i was looking 4. U eraned my sub. I nowbhave sure that the worth upgrade patch is 5700x3d and for those who doesnt wanna spent with coolers, 5700x. It just doesnt woth going from 4500 to r5 5600.

[@blakegriplingph]

Had this since February. The anaemic L3 cache is a bummer but I needed something so I could take the old processor and board off my main rig and put them on my mum's office PC.

[@bogdanbosiokovic8858]

Oh hey it's my CPU! I bought it back almost 2 years ago as platform upgrade (had a i7 2600 rig which i only used for about a year after upgrading it so much over the years XD) Although i'm still bit bitter on not waiting for cheaper prices as i did buy it new in June '22 buut then again i was considering buying a used R5 3600, but since i heard some people having issues with them i decided to avoid it. Anyway it's still chugging along since then i don't really regret buying it, just regret not waiting a bit so i could've saved bit more money :)

[@bal7ha2ar]

unless the next chip shortage comes along prices will always fall over time so you can always wait and save a bit more so i wouldnt feel bad about it.

[@robgrenzeback3425]

That's my cpu too! I don't want a pc that has a power consumption of a whole kitchen appliances turned on. This cpu is perfect when electricity isn't cheap.

[@King_K_Rool_]

Nearly got one recently but thankfully ended up getting a 3600 used for cheaper

[@StarCo11]

3600 is better, imo

[@mari2.]

@@StarCo11 yeah it is. the 4500 is basically a 4600G but without its graphics and slower clocks

[@Flyon86]

Yeah, at that price point there's better options unless you really have to watch pennies. Tons of used r5 3600's out there for around $80, or buy a new r5 5600 for a little bit more. I saw amazon had a sale on 5600 recently at $120.

[@Nunya58294]

​@@StarCo11no it's not idiot 😂

[@thevaultsup]

I'd like to point out that the power consumption of this little guy is absolutly nuts, sits at or below 20w most of the time while pushing +60 frames. I have this CPU in my laptop (5500u) and it's a joy to use, it shred through code compilation without any issues.

[@TetherOnline]

I think I have learned more about pc parts because of this channel more then any other place on the internet and i'm glad of it.

[@alexanders.4591]

I upgraded my gaming pc from an Intel Xeon W-2135 (6core/12threads 4.5 GHz max boost) to an Intel i5-12600K last December. I think I’m starting to regret my decision of going with Intel now that LGA 1700 is officially dead(as in no more new cpus). I feel like I should have gone with a Ryzen 5 7500F. But it would have probably increased the cost of my whole build by $300 at least. I would need an expensive AM5 mobo and DDR5 RAM. My total build cost was $850. I have a RX 6700 XT, i5-12600K, 32GB DDR4 3600, and ASROCK Z690 Extreme mobo, a 1TB SN770 SSD, a Cooler Master 850W 80+Gold rated PSU, a MSI MAG ATX case, and a Thermal Take 240mm AIO(I got this for ONLY $40!!!!). So, was I right to go with the i5-12600K?

[@cosmicusstardust3300]

To be fair, AMD's Ryzen naming was actually fairly consistent and intuitive from Zen 1 (1000 series) to Zen 2 (3000 series). It wasn't until Zen 3 (5000 series...) that things started to get stupid with the naming.

[@rolandsier1201]

Great video! I use a Ryzen 3 3100 which is in your video as a comparison! I’m really happy with it but will probably upgrade to a R5 5500 or 5600 if the price for the performance is right. Love the AM4 and see no real need to go for AM5 in the next 5 years! With a new GPU it will do even 1440p well👍🏻

[@ALmaN11223344]

You could get a 5700x3d if you saved a little longer, they're $190 on Aliexpress currently. It competes with AMDs entire non-x3d lineup on AM5.

[@rolandsier1201]

@@ALmaN11223344 not sure if my B450m motherboard would like this CPU so much 😅but thanks for the hint! Will check deeper on this

[@dogface313]

Great video. Thank you.

[@threzz3]

Great cpu for my budget and "modern" PC gaming

[@zionml7134]

Still rocking my R5 5600x 🥰

[@AshtonCoolman]

That CPU is a champ!

[@prosecanlik4296]

I rock 5600G😆 a bit slower than your 5600X but still can do a great job at any game

[@arjunn999]

​@@prosecanlik4296the 5600 trifecta itself is amazing!

[@Xatariel]

It's a great CPU that lasted me a long while before upgrading to a 5700x3d

[@SmootDawgg]

@@Xatariel how is the performance difference between the 2?

[@MaxVelzgg]

Nothing beats the r5 5600x

[@puffyips]

7500f

[@vinylSummer]

​@le_rat_moneurIf we're talking value nothing beats r5 5600, 7500f is the best next thing

[@erisium6988]

@le_rat_moneurno point of buying new am4 and if u have it already just buy 5800x3d.

[@Numer1Polak]

I got this for 55 bucks with a coupon for my little brothers old budget ryzen 3 build. Got him to stop stuttering in many games and hes super happy with a nice 1080p monitor. Cant beat that for a new chip

[@Javadamutt]

Built a similar system for a friend late August 23. You could get a new motherboard and processor for just slightly over the £100 mark. Second hand market for AM4 motherboards and Ryzen 2xxx and 3xxx processors was worse than what was shown in the video with prices being higher than the 4xxx series and even similar chips for "new". Intel you were getting hit by lack of availability on the second hand market and new still had the Intel tax applied. While compromised slightly, it's a phenomenal chip for the price.

[@Ryan-1337]

Interestingly enough, if you download chipset drivers for a b550 board with this CPU installed, It downloads and applies the ryzen power plans. (Which as far as I know and can tell those power plans are only really applicable to Matisse chips, not Renoir.) I noticed for myself that the windows power plans give me much better performance, fps and frametimes. I could not believe how dogshit my performance was using this chip until I switched back to the high performance windows power plan which gave me the performance I initially expected. Can someone verify this?

[@nem11x]

You can pick used 3600 off Aliexpress for around 60€. Pretty good deal. Also it outperforms 4500.

[@AlexHusTech]

Yep, AE is quite cheap, can get 5600 for 70 on sales.

[@pavelstoikov3780]

yep but I don't trust Aliexpress 😒😒

[@bena2.0]

Not in every country

[@NOOBGAMER-pm1pv]

Yes, but just like he said IF you dont wanna take a risk in second hand market, this 4500 is not a bad choice at all. Because i know some people dont comfortable to buy second hand, they better buy new with 3years warranty and all. At cost slightly worse performance. Well im one of them

[@nem11x]

@@pavelstoikov3780 You don't know how to use aliexpress. I've ordered many parts for PC off of it, and none of them died yet. This includes Gtx 750 (retired last year) in 2018, Amd athlon x4 640 (bought in 2017), intel xeon bought last year still in use, 1 kingspec 512gb sata ssd (in use), 1tb fanxiang nvme (in use)...

[@krissythecatboi]

I actually got this one for my PC, because I needed something with ReBAR support for my Intel Arc A580. So far, I'm happy with it, the performance is good (I do gaming at 1080p and 60 fps), except I'll need a new cooler as well, cause the stock one just isn't doing it. Even with new thermal paste, synthetic stress testing leads to temperatures just over 90 C, which is pretty bad at stock clocks (at ~4.2 GHz boost), even if no normal workload pushes the CPU that hard, neither games, nor streaming, nor video editing or compiling code.

[@slange420]

Once, I built a custom liquid-cooled PC with this CPU. It still performs well to this day.

[@Lemmiou]

I wish Amd would make less misleading naming schemes 😂

[@puffyips]

What’s misleading about a ryzen 5 4500

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 all manufacturers do it, you have to looks at the specs yourself

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@MrSamadolfo]

PCI 3 VS PCIE 4 VS Cezanne vs Valmere vs Bios Updates VS Motherboard A B X , WTH???? 🤔😳😱

[@DigitalJedi]

@@puffyips He literally covered it at the beginning of the video. If you go by the fact that the 5000 series is better than the 3000 series, which is better than 2000 and so on, the 4000 should be ahead of the 3000 series. But, it isn't. The 4500 has slightly lower clock speeds, 1/4 the L3 cache, and much less PCIE bandwidth than the 3600, it's direct "predecessor."

[@toufusoup]

Nice dub there at 5:52 Mr. Iceberg Man

[@r3drumg33k3]

I have a 4350g that will do 4.7 ghz no issues, Rather surprised your cores would not budge! Also boards are super picky with what bios you use with these "g" series apu's (i know this is a 4500....but it is a G cpu still) They will work but you get odd cpu turbo behavior etc.

[@IcebergTech]

That would lend credibility to the idea that these 4500s were failed 4600G/4650Gs.

[@lilsoonerfaninmo]

This was my first CPU ......yeah, Id say the $70 ish is pretty on the nose. I'd honestly recommend a 5600 if you can swing it

[@BloodStarGg]

I picked up a 8700k with mobo cpu cooler case 32 gb ram for 200 on eBay I added a 4060 and I’m loving it. I’m glad to see it tested in this video.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

Intel & Nvidia ..... You really are an dumba ss

[@robgrenzeback3425]

It's kinda disappointing when tech tubers ignore power efficiency when reviewing cpus & gpus. It's one of the things that affects my buying decisions when building a pc.

[@quisqueyanguy120]

So you're saying this thing is very power efficient? Interesting. I might buy this after all, I don't want to have a big electrical bill

[@StaelTek]

Usually, the 4500 and 3600 kinda switch places as the cheapest 6 core CPU. But what i find offensive is that even a Ryzen 3 3100 has PCIe 4.0, but even the 4500 and 5500 only has PCIe 3.0 and the 4500 in particular only has 3.0 x8

[@loucipher7782]

4500 are not meant for new pc builder if your old intel skylake mobo from 6+ years ago died you can just get this with a cheap mobo and transfer everything over your old pcie 3.0 gpu will get significant boost from 6c12t cpu

[@C.I.G.A.N]

And 4500 also draws less than 30w even when fully used by the game

[@zbrkesbris5987]

3:10 they dont have "better memory controllers", they are monolithic and thus dont have constraint in form if infinity fabric that needed to be in 1:1 ratio with memory controller and memory for better performance.

[@nevernicemeadow]

recently got a Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G super cheap for 50€. Originally wanted to simply resell it on ebay for 2x-3x the price as these are PRO chips and seem hard to get hands on. One reason being, its an efficient APU due to monolithic design and due to PRO features, it also supports ECC (oposed to non-PRO APUs). Now i am unsure if I should keep it for said reasons. When i upgrade my main rig to AM5, i could throw that 4750G into my current AM4 board, sell my non-ECC Ram, buy some single ECC stick and upgrade my NAS to use ECC, while still running an efficient APU

[@jasonaltman7164]

It was either going to be you or RandomGaminginHD that did this. Congratulations on beating him to it.

[@declangallagher1448]

AM4 is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@AlexHusTech]

*Been getting a fair few 4500s from Aliexpress for Budget PC flips*

[@puffyips]

If they are $500

[@AlexHusTech]

@@puffyips I can build for about 350ish and sell for 450ish, made a few vids on them, however 5500 and 5600 can be had for not much more these days.

[@StarCo11]

@@AlexHusTechi was going to say… next time get some 5500s. Make some kids happy for little to none price diff.

[@AlexHusTech]

@@StarCo11 Yeah will do that in future, I got no more 4500s left so next order will be 5500/5600.

[@StarCo11]

@@AlexHusTechtop man Good luck

[@AlkoholOgerLeonElektronik67]

I have seen listings of this CPU recently, and I was already suspecting, that this CPU likely has bigger drawbacks. It's better to just spend a little more, to get a Ryzen 5600 instead

[@dominickrass8473]

bro what is it with the *? isnt it obvius that nobody will sue you if you didnt include it

[@A3Hobby]

got my r5 4600g series.... it's awesome Upgrade since my old machine came from Core 2 Quad era 😂😂😂😂

[@misterbrickest]

I started with this CPU on my first AM4 board (and a GTX 770 lol) but I upgraded to the 5800X3D and got an RX6800. I bought this CPU quite literally BRAND new when it came out for only $99, and was kind of disappointed in the absolutely horrible reviews it got. I think some reviewers forget that some people can only spend the absolute bare minimum, at this time I was saving money and paying rent for 2 people so I just needed a computer that worked for basic stuff. Considering I already had the GTX 770 and a case, I was plenty happy with spending $250 total to build a computer with a new CPU/MOBO/RAM. That same Motherboard (B450M) powers my 5800X3D+6800 and sits in a new case with an AIO and plenty of RGB. And even though I use it for video editing and photoshop as well, it holds up just fine when compared to how it started lol

[@EisteeMango]

To be honest its a good enough cpu if all you want is around 60 fps in almost all titles in medium to ultra (depending on tilte) settings. I myself have it paired with a GTX 1080 and are very happy with this combo.

[@jonplaud]

I upgraded from a Ryzen 3 2200G to this Ryzen 5 4500. I am currently waiting for it from Newegg.

[@michaelstraub3516]

>rtx 4060 >Budget gpu Oof

[@p1nstark]

Omg this is the cpu i have in my planned new 300 us dollar am4 pc build

[@itsatrap4986]

Get the 3600 since it's $60 and is better in gaming.

[@p1nstark]

@@itsatrap4986 sorry to dissapoint but where im at the 3600 is decently more expensive brand new, and buying second hand is not really great either as there are very few listings and it is just full of delusional sellers selling at close to a new one

[@AAjax]

If anyone is considering a 4500, you should also price compare with the 5500. Both processors have similar deficiencies (pci versoin), but the 5500 is a fair bit faster. In my market, the price difference for the uplift is about $7.

[@MrSamadolfo]

sure, the prices dont make sense from location to location

[@starmurp]

3:06 better memory controller (APU derived)

[@digiedaw_]

4500 is cheap, power efficient, good for gaming. Overall It's great for the price. I used it for a year combined with RX6600.

[@Vexcenot]

I was so hyped for this cpu

[@saiftube5833]

Hey big fan i have a question is it worth it to get a high refresh monitor if my pc is weak My rig is i5 2500 gtx 1650 and planning on upgrading later in 2025 or 2026 And xbox series s And also can you do a video about getting high refresh rate on old cpus

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 gaming monitors are coming down in price, i recommend AMD Freesync Monitors, 24 27 32, 1440p, Hertz seems to be 120mhz to 165mhz seems to be the sweet spots rite now, also if you got room pickup a nice big TV 55inches or larger

[@saiftube5833]

@@MrSamadolfo no i want 1080p

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@saiftube5833 🙂 sure, the 1080p, same specs but since they are 1080P you should be able to get them a bit cheaper than 1440p

[@saiftube5833]

@@MrSamadolfo like do you know cheap prices

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@saiftube5833 🙂 i don't know cause prices change but u can compare prices online for example at amazon or newegg or microcenter and many more places

[@LoneWanderer-by6tv]

This one was the one insurance replaced my old CPU with after it got fried in a power surge

[@xaviordaniel9981]

This is my current cpu, it served me well, might upgrade to 5600x since i already have 3060 Ti laying in my room waiting to replace my old rx5600xt.

[@konstantinlozev2272]

Well, I bought a year ago a Ryzen "3000" laptop, only to learn after that it is actually a Zen+ architecture and not Zen 2...

[@Darth001]

Same 3550h wasn't happy but it did play games

[@konstantinlozev2272]

@@Darth001 yeah, mine came at USD 350. I upgraded the RAM to 16 GB dual channel. That also bumped the performance of the iGPU. It's OK for older games and for general productivity.

[@Darth001]

@@konstantinlozev2272 think mine was an MSI gaming laptop with a rx560x 4gb, had 8gb ram which I did same upgraded it to 16gb. Also had 512gb m.2 SSD which I added a sata 2tb hhd firecuda to. Same as you played games made before it ok but new releases always had to play on low

[@HetZieltje]

Have this in my homelab, pretty nice for something like that, cost me 40 quid and a 20 quid motherboard, sorted for less than any decent intel chip wouldve cost me. Just missing quicksync but i do mostly direct play/stream and the gtx 1050 handles the rest

[@matthewpeter4034]

Im using a ryzen 5 4500 with a evga 980ti and 2x 8bs corsair ram with a 1920x1080 60hz monitor and it runs most games on mid settings

[@For3xampleJohn]

Got the 4700s for around the equivalent of 90USD. Thats Mobo+Ram+CPU. Thats the only 4000 series I would ( & did) buy.

[@allesarfint]

What the hell are those power consumption readings? Just 20 W is insane, it has to be wrong.

[@q.m.5454]

Id like to have seen the 3600 on the performance tables

[@PatatoPAT3]

i've recently switched from ryzen 5 4500 to r5 5600x the difference is huge although this cpu is pretty solid i used for almost 1 year

[@TrusteftTech]

I am a bit confused, what did you mean during the Resolve testing that it is unrealistic? Other than not using the GPU.

[@IcebergTech]

Sorry, should have clarified. I’ve always tested CPUs at the highest quality preset in Resolve, which on an H264 file can amount to 200+Mb. Recently I’ve been testing mini PCs at a fixed 30Mb output, which is far faster to render. This old method still works fine as a CPU benchmark, but a lower bitrate would be more reflective of real-world render times.

[@TrusteftTech]

@@IcebergTech Mb as in Mbps? Thank you.

[@IcebergTech]

@@TrusteftTech yes

[@RANDOMNATION907]

2600X . . 6c/12t , 4.25Ghz, 16MB L3 cache and can be had for $65 usd.

[@Pillokun]

Like these tests, but some results are really strange, I guess it is because of the platform settings. 140fps in wz is what I get with an 10400f with an vega 64 at 1080p basic for instance.

[@bbtj4575]

Which program do you use to record?

[@stratuvarious8547]

I just don't get it, yeah cutting corners, but down to 8 MB of L3, that's just crazy. AMD of all companies seems to get how important L3 is to frame rate stability and percentile lows, yet this is what they produced? If it had 16 MB, it would be passable, better than many Intel cpus, but 8? Yeah, it's budget, but that's just crazy.

[@AlexHusTech]

Agree, 16 should've been min!

[@hblanksjukebox]

It gets worse; the 6 cores are split into 2 3 core CCXs that each get 4MB of L3

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 sure but its not horrible, its way better than picking up a Celeron or Pentium

[@boshumok6399]

They have to make different tradeoffs in these chip designs. The 4500 is very efficient.

[@Josue31627]

The Ryzen 5 4500 gets a lot of hate but after its price drop to $70-$80, it's a very solid CPU to buy new at its current pricepoint. Its only real competitor there is the i3-10100, and I'd say the Ryzen is a little better especially in multitasking. Maybe. That low cache might hurt it. There are better CPUs for under $100 though, the i3-12100 and Ryzen 5 5500 come to mind.

[@Neulaw]

Probably the biggest competitor to the R5 4500 is it's predecessor, the R5 3600, which commonly costs about the same price as the 4500, but has 32MB L3 cache instead of 8MB, and PCIe 4.0 support instead of 3.0. At my local shops, it's a €2.50 difference in cost.

[@aadityasingh6134]

You are gaining 100 subscribers per video Mr. Iceberg, from my math you will get to 100k in no time!

[@xBruceLee88x]

This along with the RX6600 have been on my radar for some time now for a budget gaming build Though... The 5500 is only slightly more and has some extra cache too!

[@latioseon7794]

Seems like that 'Snake oil' runs through all the 'teams' which is a bit of a shame for new builders who dont know these product codenames.

[@FlyingPigeon-00001]

Wait, older models exist such as the 2600, 1600

[@Necrox894]

Uhh is the msi afterburner wattage count of the cpu broken or the cpu is a efficient beast?

[@06dpa]

This has the same vibes as when Intel nerfed the Celeron by cutting cache. Would love to see this compared to that FX! The 4500 seems to be better value than the 12100F in most cases, especially when considering that you can get AM4 motherboards for same or less than LGA 1700 ones. However, LGA 1700 has better upgrade potential if you dismiss the power costs of the i7/i9 CPUs. Otherwise, I would simply always pick AM4 at this budget.

[@hyudlet2289]

I was just about to grab one of these before getting a ryzen 5600x, had a ryzen 4100 which was solid to

[@aishwarybarmase]

How about a video on the first I9 by Intel.

[@0Synergy]

Why not a curve tune and raise the power limits? If bios won't let you try PBO Tuner 2.

[@Garde538]

How does this compare to the Ryzen 5 3600x??

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

Bought my 3600 in 2020 and I don't see myself upgrading anytime soon. I say it can last for another 2 generations.

[@trailduster6bt]

I learned fast what L3 cache was after I bought a Lenovo workstation with 6c/12t xeon which, like the 4500, only has 8mb of L3. Cyberpunk 2.0 update positively REKT my cpu. Now I struggle to stay above 60fps with MEDIUM crowd density… Originally I thought the 2135 Xeon would be a good pairing with my 2080ti. I’m not catastrophically CPU bound, but definitely would have been worth a few extra bucks to find a workstation with a 2145 Xeon with 12mb of L3 and just disable a couple cores. Adding a couple of sticks of server ram to take advantage of the motherboard’s quad channel support also seemed to help, though I don’t think that is directly related to my L3 problem.

[@swuspicious]

disabling the cores would also limit you to said cores' allocated l3 cluster so you'd still be with 8mb usable l3

[@trailduster6bt]

@@swuspicious Ah good to know! In that case then, wouldn’t an 8 core with 12mb still be just as hobbled as a 6 core with 8mb?

[@swuspicious]

@@trailduster6bt well theres still more of it so if a game is properly threaded itll be better

[@RS-nq8xk]

Cache and RAM are somewhat related. When you have little cache overclocked RAM and timings give large improvements. But workstations likely cannot do this so you are kind of stuck.

[@trailduster6bt]

@@RS-nq8xk I wasn’t able to overclock, but going from dual channel to quad channel still doubled my ram speed.

[@GewelReal]

I finally switched from X99 to Ryzen 5600 But I always wondered how 4500 stacks up against those Xeons

[@mikaela43523]

will the ryzen 5 5500 perform much better than the 4500? it has double the cache and its based on zen 3 so i suppose the difference will be bigger between 4500 and 5500 than between 5500 and 5600

[@bloodgoat]

Saw a new vid and almost spat out all mouthful of coffee onto my partner

[@Pliky10k]

Wll done. I'm curious how it fares against the R5 3600 and R5 5500.

[@lanwish]

Both faster. 3600 is best because of the cache.

[@maxmad4771]

I wish this was 5500, only bit more expensive but Zen 3 architecture (albeit with 1/2 of cache of 5600), and almost always sold at tipping point of 100$ (+/- 5).

[@sheldonkupa9120]

Nice review👍👏 The cpu didnt get enough love when released, not one good review by major tech channels. But it was soon dirt cheap and a good entry level modern cpu. Nowadays, Ryzen 5000 starts to become too cheap, in Germany the 4500 is 72 vs the 5500 at 90 Euro. 5600x is 100 right now. I upgraded several low end b450 boards with the 5500 which was available here for 90 Euros. This cpu is doing well even with low end (may i say bad?!) vrms.

[@spheroboom7299]

what about the r5 3600 and the r5 5500 im curious how its 32mb cache would fair now vs the newer less cache 5500

[@candidosilva7755]

Were i live they stil sell the ryzen 3600 new i bought mine for 89€ with a cheap msi board and 16 gb of gskil ram. Aded my rtx 2060 and so far so good for what i play. I could put my i 7 4770 to rest for now.