Ichigo Vs. The Dragon Ball Gauntlet - How Far Would He Go?

[@ProbablyRiku]

I got nothing clever to say. First person to give me a Bleach Or DBZ hot take that I agree with, will get pinned.

[@YourboyStink]

Make Naruto vs Dragon ball but highball them too insane amounts for them too win

[@MATI640]

​@@YourboyStinkthis what he does in this video

[@YourboyStink]

@@MATI640 I said Naruto not Ichigo there two different characters

[@glazed_donut5158]

This isn't a hot take, but that comment you made about if the power system wasn't made equal, spiritual pressure would kill them is false, and it isn't debatable. Ki is made up of 3 things being spirt mind and emotions. With that being said, that means their spiritual power is as strong as their ki and db has demonstrated similar things to spiritual pressure and spirit crush

[@Lord_Sǒsuke_Aizen]

When ichigo's in there he boutta learn he's part saiyan, android, whatever tien is, freeza and god of destruction

[@Starman12012]

Hes about to be the new cell

[@themarshian5124]

He’s gonna be secretly part Zeno too

[@baconcadet2532]

A blue comment in YT is crazy

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@Lord_Sǒsuke_Aizen Damn I missed the opportunity to make this joke. Well played.

[@Lord_Sǒsuke_Aizen]

@@ProbablyRiku I have anticipated your movement

[@jruler93]

In-character, Ichigo does not allow the Buu Saga to happen. A godly figure showing up and warning about a threat to all life in the Universe is something Ichigo would pay mind to. He slaughters Pui Pui and Yakkon, he may struggle with Dabura, but I think he wins, as long as he doesn't get spit on and then he bisects Babadi and gives Buu's egg to Shin.

[@PrinceVegeta-k7f]

even babibi could kill ichigo

[@jruler93]

@@PrinceVegeta-k7f Piccolo wasn't on SP Cell's level, but still cut Babidi in half with his hand. If Ichigo can get passed Dabura, the evil potato wizard has nothing to stop the shinigami from sending him across the river styx.

[@miggyalcomendras8468]

​@@PrinceVegeta-k7fDabura gets fodderized horribly, cuz Senjumaru scaling with shaking 3 universes, also Dabura dosent scale to SPC.

[@cursedgaming8102]

This guy is becoming my favorite YTUBER. Keep them coming!

[@Simpls.1]

3:33 yuji catching strays 😭

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@Simpls.1 been waiting for this exact comment 😂🤣

[@daynearmstrong]

High video quality for a channel with so few subs. You’ve earned my sub

[@ProbablyRiku]

That means a lot. Welcome to the channel.

[@mustysmells817]

Alot of people don't realize Ichigo's AP far overwhelmingly exceeds his defenses at the end of the series. He was able to obliterate a near-omnipotent being that could collapse the entirety of all three realms; twice in succession (The only thing keeping Ywatch alive was spamming revives.) He would have no difficulty obliterating (first form) Frieza, Larvae Cell, and Evil Buu. The catch is that he'll probably get stopped by perfect frieza, super perfect cell and Super Bull, even Kid Buu. But he's not dumb enough to even let them get to that point.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

I'm assuming he didn't scale ichigo's ap fully because of spoilers But yeah eos ichigo has enough ap to one shot all dbz Characters

[@NarrowPathSign]

​@OvercookedOmlette this is without a doubt, one of the stupidest comment I've ever read 😂

[@OvercookedOmlette]

@@NarrowPathSign no it just flew over your head because you didn't watch bleach and don't know how to scale

[@NarrowPathSign]

@@OvercookedOmlette nah kid, as you can see, you're one of the few idiots here who stupidly believes ichigo one shots 🤣..go back to watching disney kid, you don't know anything about anime 🤣😂

[@SleepyCloud-i4z]

​@@NarrowPathSignexplain how he wouldn't one-shot. Ichigo is the type of person to go all out at the start of battle. He also doesn't let people transform or get stronger like Goku would

[@ViolenceReality]

Roshi was Obliterating the moon without a sweat in Dragon Ball, at a Power Level of 300, Frieza hoisted a finger up and deleted a planet 10x more dense than earth while Laughing about it in base form. His second form is around 1 million 3,333x times stronger than the Moon feat minimum, there is so little evidence Ichigo is somewhat close to the AP/DC values DBZ characters put out while not even trying. Ichigo has Never done anything even close to threatening Celestial Bodies on a whim let alone being mirthful about the activity as seen with numerous dragon ball characters, Goku takes Final Friezas Full power to the face around 500x stronger than his second forms 1 million Power Level output. (Remember 300 destroys the moon no problem) and he just STARES at Frieza like he didn't do anything to him. If you watched DBZ you know bleach is not at the level. Edit: Ichigo having anything on First Form Cell who's stronger than Trunks who was stronger than Final Form Frieza is hilariously bad scaling. Ichigo is not beating any of these post Frieza characters with Mountain level Feats at his peak.

[@305thief8]

This is biased Ichigo has higher dimensional metas you can argue 5D -7D and Ichigo scales above someone who created a universe and even surpassed that level of power in the process of fighting that enemy and Ichigo scales above his own cosmology since the final villain was stated to be able to destroy existence itself. You can also argue that the soul king is Outerversal since he was stated to transcend everything in the verse which includes life and death which are concepts in bleach that have precedence over concepts like time and space

[@ViolenceReality]

@@305thief8 you are making this up as you go, there's no evidence for this hyperdimensional Ichigo you have created, with statements and opinions you believe Ichigo can destroy anything beyond a star is laughable.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

​​​@@ViolenceReality you're extremely biased The video clearly stated that Ap>dc I can also use multipliers which are the easiest way to scale ichigo This video lowballed ichigo for the sake of not giving spoilers Eos ichigo has high uni ap, above any dbz Characters in their strongest form Although he lacks the speed in buu saga, however lensing a single getusga one shots buu

[@candytime-_-]

Faxxxx bleachers be wilding

[@candytime-_-]

@@OvercookedOmlette now show him obliterating a planet let alone having uni AP

[@rhemv]

awesome video man!

[@dawickedj]

Okay so once we get into spoiler territories there's one thing that I want to point out. If you're giving Ichigo his Bankai from the end of the series, then it would be after the outer shell of his false Bankai was shattered exposing his true mastered Bankai. As we saw with Renji, Rukia, and Byakuya, mastering your Bankai gives you a massive power increase. I would argue at minimum Ichigo should have been roughly five times stronger than you scaled him at the end.

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

Here is the thing, Ichigo doesnt even need to use his bankai that early. True shikai ichigo was very much lowballed in thos vid.

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

Here is the thing, Ichigo doesnt even need to use his bankai that early. True shikai ichigo was very much lowballed in thos vid.

[@littleyoman]

the sheath of his true bankai broke because yhwach took his hollow powers

[@OvercookedOmlette]

​​@@SudhishSP-h7kichigo was lowballed by quite a lot He also didn't use horn of salvation

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

@@OvercookedOmlette True shikai Ichigo is already as strong as damgai Ichigo, due to his absurd scaling due to the anime he is definatly clearing a large mumber DB characters, now yes once we enter into DB super territory, things kinda get out of hand but even then he can take on quite a few of them before finally stopping.

[@Kenos347]

Great video apreciate it a lot

[@reversecero9673]

Ichigo is easily above Multi-Universal. It's stated many times throughout the series that the realms are universal & exist in the Greater Space Garganta. Just one of the Squad 0 captains was able to (shake the) "heavens & earth" of the 3 major realms while suppressing themselves. Ichigo is objectively stronger than them. Ichigo then 2x "Kills" Yhwach, an omnipotent being, only not killing him bc of high lvl hax.

[@onesmart229]

6:57 this statement makes no sense. As spiritual crush requires both parties to have some form of spiritual energy or spiritual body. It only works under equalization. People keep getting it backwards. If your opponent doesn’t have a spiritual body or spiritual energy there’s nothing to crush. Azien thought the Ichigo dragging him by the face had no spiritual energy.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

No it does make sense Because dragon ball characters as most animes can't protect their souls Aizen can effortlessly evaporate souls of regular humans even if they don't have sp Which is why we don't use sp in cross verse battles, because ichigo unironically solos the verse that way

[@onesmart229]

@ all humans in bleach have a little spirit energy and a soul body. Spirit pressure can’t crush something that’s not there. It literally doesn’t work unless you do verse equalization.

[@Nekogami04]

​@@onesmart229 Reiatsu (spiritual pressure) can affect kishi (physical matter), space-time, and even concepts. Aizen was literally shown destroying the Kototsu, which has no reiryoku (spiritual energy) or reiatsu, it's no a soul or spiritual being. The Kototsu's power is of reason, it's a conceptual being that governs space-time. Also, Aizen thought Ichigo had no reiatsu, not that he had no reiryoku. Without reiryoku, a soul would only on the level of a normal human.

[@Kenos347]

@@onesmart229 your actualy so dumb it's insane Why would their bodies sustain damage if they aren't made of spiritual particles but Kishi(real matter)

[@Kenos347]

@@Nekogami04 W

[@evilartnboy]

I could see cell absorbing the cities. He was sneaking around after all.

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@evilartnboy Even if he was capable of doing so, he's still in base. It wasn't worth considering imho. Though I don't really remember how much he powered up between his absolute base, and post city absorption. Do you?

[@somegamer4071]

@@ProbablyRiku That said if cell can sneak around ichigo for a time, he can probably absorb the androids, or at least one of them, androids don't have power levels, so ichigo wouldn't know cell found them until the power spike of absorbing either 18 or 17, then the question becomes if he can beat semi perfect cell. which if he can beat any form of buu he can probably.

[@weeaboo-warrior]

Bleach hot take: most of the characters are below planet level and below light speed

[@ProbablyRiku]

That is a crazy hot take. I'm literally sitting here typing this, on fire.

[@weeaboo-warrior]

@@ProbablyRiku I shall make a video on it someday

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@weeaboo-warrior Link me. I'll have to grab some mushrooms for that wild ride you'll be taking us on. 🤣😂🤣

[@weeaboo-warrior]

@@ProbablyRiku will do

[@OvercookedOmlette]

​@@weeaboo-warriortag us here I'll bring 4 rounds of chemotherapy

[@Shadow_2401]

I'll explain it to you why base goku from super is enough. First of all the concept if dimensionality: if something is infinite but is 2D and something is infinite but 3D the 3D thing will be larger because has another dimension. Now the comp multi tier splits in: Low complex multiversal (6D-7D) Complex multiversal (8D-9D) High Complex multiversal (10D-11D) A complex multiversal character is someone who can create destroy or manipulate more than an infinite number of universes. The dragon ball universe is a bubble spitted in 7 parts: Living world, heaven, hell, kai's world, great kai's world, enma's palace and demon realm. The living world is infinite and has several dimensions in it that can collapse and crush it, and the only thing that can crush something infinite is something infinite. So the living world is 4D because it has several 3D dimensions in it. Now the heaven is stated to be as the same size but the hell is larger and the kai's realm even more, so the hell is 5D and the kai's realm is 6D. Not to mention that the great kai's realm is even larger, this put it at 7D. All of this is inside of the bubble, this means the bubble is large enough to contain an 7D realm, so a single universe is 8D (complex multiversal); In the battle with beerus, Goku shaked the entire multiverse (considering that the shake reached the kaiohshin realm which is outside of the universe, it reached even other universes) and almost destroy it, for then absorb that power in base form. This means base Goku is at least 8D

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

You started off good but then fell off hard with the imcrease in dimension stuff

[@Shadow_2401]

@@SudhishSP-h7k please tell me in where I've failed

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

@@Shadow_2401 How does the increase in size make the other realms a dimension above the previous one?

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

@@Shadow_2401 also if the living world can be crushed by the dimensions collapsing in it then how does that automatically make the living world 4D? And yes i did read that part carefully, just because the dimensions can collapse the infinite qorld doesnt mean that they are infinite as well, it cpuld be just that there are infinite dimensions right?

[@Shadow_2401]

@@SudhishSP-h7k because if something is infinite in height and length (infinite + infinite) is smaller than something infinite in length height and depth (infinite + infinite + infinite). This is the only way two infinite things can have two different sizes

[@ArtemiyStark]

"debuff of being a bald saiyan😭" 4:42

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@ArtemiyStark How he made it that far in life is craaaazy.

[@jocoolshow]

AP/Durability wise, Ichigo clears Z and might mop up Super too with manga stuff the anime didn’t get too yet. With just the anime, he scales far above Senjumaru who could shake 3 separate space-time continuums (the 3 realms). He also scales above his Dangai and Mugetsu forms who are several layers of transcendent over 3rd form Aizen that destroyed the Cleaner which is a construct which governs the space-time of separate universes. So Low Multiversal easily in his True Shikai, potentially Low Complex for scaling above the weakened Soul King who created the space-time continuum of a 4th Dimensional realm like the Dangai Speed wise, he clears Z but might struggle with Super unless we get quantifiable calcs for Senjumaru’s Reiatsu shaking the 3 realms and upscaling, similar to the speed of Goku and Beerus’ shockwaves traveling through U7. Though if you use higher speed metas like Infinite or Immesurable speed Bleach based on Aizen transcending the cleaner who governs space-time then it gets crazy Hax wise, Ichigo doesn’t have a big hax bag but he has extremely potent soul hax, offensive space-time hax, heat hax, sub atomic matter destruction, reactive power level, instinctive reactions, analytical prediction, corruption inducement, physics manipulation etc, and several resistances to a lot of haxes like soul manip, subatomic manipulation, gravity manipulation, space-time manipulation, existence erasure, mind manipulation etc

[@candytime-_-]

could you explain how the bleach cosmology functions?? its making and how it is stabilize and what cause it's destabilization

[@OvercookedOmlette]

Remember that yoruichi said a a bankai is *typically* 5-10 times Based on sk yhwach's statement ichigo's bankai is definitely leagues above that It's obviously impossible to give an accurate measure but it's likely closer to 100× than 10 Squad 0's senjumaru is a good example of more than 10 times multiplier

[@eugenekubak7857]

Ichigo finds out he's a natural god of destruction 😂

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Ichigo is beyond solar system level, now scaling anywhere from universal+ to Multiversal. Speed would be MFTL, reaching to speeds in the quintillions with the senjumaru bankai feat. Even if all the villains are at their strongest, stand no chance against him. Buu's candy beam wouldn't be fast enough and wouldn't stop him from being able to move around like vegito considering Ichigo's astronomical spiritual pressure. And that's if it even works, his spiritual pressure can act as a shield emitting from his body or the ability just doesn't affect him. He can even take on enemies in the super anime, since he can scale to characters who can shake multiple universes with just the slightest release of their power. Bleach scales higher than most people think, especially after the light novels and the additions from the anime, which isn't even finished yet. Ichigo clears.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

Uni+ is consistent scaling Anything above that is just wrong He can be scaled to just Uni with a lowball

[@Auron1Roxas2]

@@OvercookedOmlette Multiversal isn't wrong, there's evidence for it, just not multiversal in the sense of infinite universes.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

@@Auron1Roxas2 what's the evidence of that particular scaling?

[@Auron1Roxas2]

@@OvercookedOmlette The Garganta is described as an infinite void with high amounts of reishi between worlds and connects them all. It can be simplified as like a fish bowl that contains all worlds. These worlds are all at least 3D structures and possibly infinite, one of them being even higher than a 3D structure. The living world and soul society are all 3D structures, contain stars and galaxies. These two worlds are said to be parallel to each other and the same size. Soul society also houses a pocket dimension called muken that has been stated to be infinite. The kanji for infinite is used to describe it in the original japanese writing so it's not a mistranslation. The world of the living and soul society are also very likely infinite in size as well. The dangai is a corridor like dimension that's separated from space and time. It's stacked by numerous layers of time currents, stated to be 2,000 times denser, so 1 hour in the world of the living is about 2,000 hours in the dangai. Kisuke has explained it as a hyperspace. There's also the kototsu which governs time and space and can send anyone hit by it to a different time period. Hell is unknown to us, as the hellverse movie isn't canon so we gotta wait for kubo to write the hell arc. Then there are the valley of screams, these are dimensions that can vary in size but are capable of holding an infinite number of souls. They were first introduced in the first bleach movie, which would be considered canon as the valley of screams made it into the manga and kubo left a little note telling readers to check out the first bleach movie. Hueco Mundo also is likely the same size as WoL and SS and is described as being covered in an endless sand. This makes the bleach verse multiversal since it has multiple 3D and 4D structures, possibly higher.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

@@Auron1Roxas2 i know all of that However ichigo does not scale to yhwach's ap let alone the entire bleach cosmology Correct me if i'm wrong but yhwach wasn't stated to have the ability to destroy the garganta along with the realms and dangai, so not even yhwach's ap has supporting evidence to scale to the full extent of bleach's cosmology Ichigo scales to yhwach's speed, durability, somewhat reiatsu But he lacks in the ap apartment so he's fine as uni+

[@Metaxmorphose]

I'm surprised Ichigo could hold his own against some of these guys. Which matchup do you think was the toughest call?

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@Metaxmorphose The hardest match-up was the friends we made along the way.

[@JayLargeAfro]

Pretty sure Buu would regenerate from getsuga tensho

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@JayLargeAfro Why tho. 👀

[@Dr_Mundo]

​@@ProbablyRikucuz he's just that guy. On a more serious note, buu's regen is better than anything in the series, not even fused zamasu can compare. There's a reason Toriyama didn't include him in TOP. This is either Ichigo destroys buu in an atomic level, or buu just fights for weeks and either ends up absorbing goten or gohan, or Ichigo dies because he's too exhausted to keep on fighting.

[@OvercookedOmlette]

I wonder if ichigo uses mugetsu in eos, would he be able to bypass hogyoku's regen

[@siphezulu5119]

I scale Ichigo a lot higher but you lost me when first had Ichigo at solor system level but quickly elevated him near galaxy level due to 5 times multiplier of his bankai

[@pepsi4798]

Dragon ball character vs Group project

[@kevinappleman8521]

With the new adds kubo is blessing us with, I hope we get a better look at what Zangetsu can ACTUALLY do. Manga was underwhelming to say the least....

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@kevinappleman8521 Yeah... Well. "It was rushed" 💀💀💀

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

My friend what did yuji have to do with this 😭

[@ProbablyRiku]

EVERYTHING

[@windows98alpha35]

Ichigo vs OG DB - Ichigo clears negative difficulty Ichigo vs DBZ - Ichigo Clears mid difficulty Ichigo vs GT - Stops at Shadow Dragon saga Ichigo vs DBS - Stops at Super Hero

[@flixytip4571]

At super hero is WILD, he stops at BOG

[@Super_dragon981]

Ichigo unfortunately stops at Namek saga

[@LewisRichards-hn7vb]

That's my goat Ichigo W video

[@sostoriwake]

the high tiers in dragon ball reach ftl-ftl+

[@SweetSweetCandyBoyz]

My vote is a one-shot via Mafuba

[@cloudman1145]

You mean... Evil Containment Wave? Wait, doesn't that attack only work on people with evil inside of them?

[@ikeillue8385]

The power scaling sure, it beats out og Dragon Ball handily. The speed however is actually a lot closer than you would think. Goku was already dodding lasers in the Red Ribbon arc, and was blitzing light in the 22nd world martial arts tournament. Building off the above, Frieza is WAY beyond basic FTL. As mentioned above, Goku was hitting Light speeds when he was comparable to a moon buster. If we assume the high end for moon busting, and we take a very conservative estimate for Frieza's destruction of planet Vegeta (destroying a planet that has 10x Earth's gravity, assuming its the same size as Earth, would be a dwarf to small star level feat.), Frieza is already hitting 10 million times light speed. And that isn't including the fact that he performed said feat in his first form, while using only one finger. No, Ichigo would not be soloing the verse with his spiritual pressure without verse equivalency. Ki is canonically just as much spiritual as it is physical. It is a combination of body mind and spirit. As DB character's physical power starts matching up to Ichigo's, they would be resisting his spiritual pressure just fine. I'm assuming we are just being generous here, since a 10x boost from multi solar system level is nowhere near a guarantee to hit galaxy level. The difference between baseline and high end multi solar system level is a billion times, so more likely than not, a 10x boost isn't going to change the tier he is in. Couple of problems with the Cell thing. First issue is, there is no way in hell that Ichigo is keeping up with DB speed at this point. But that is a small thing, as we are being generous to Ichigo for the sake of an interesting video. The bigger thing is, the Z fighters didn't "let" Cell absorb cities worth of people. Cell (at least his imperfect form), is a very clever and stealthy individual. The reason they didn't stop him is because he wasn't letting them find him. They literally never did find him until he chose to let them find him. Ichigo wouldn't be able to find Cell before Cell allows is. As for the Androids, that really depends (beyond the above mentioned speed issue. Ichigo is outclassed at this point, no matter how generous you are.), are we taking the canon cosmology into account here or not? Solar systems in Dragon Ball are not normal solar systems. They are "galactic nebulae consisting of endless stars." If we then backwards scale from Cell, who is repeatedly confirmed to be capable of destroying the solar system, then the androids are easily hitting massively multi solar system levels (assuming that "endless" is not literal, we have to assume that there are trillions+ stars since counting into the billions is very common place on a cosmological scale, so it wouldn't be considered "endless" if it was only billions.). Essentially the androids are only moderately weaker (taking that EXTREMELY generous estimate for Ichigo being a galaxy buster.), but are going to be MASSIVELY faster. I would say he stops at the androids. At the Buu saga, even being extremely generous to Ichigo, and ignoring the cosmology, its over (with the possible exception that he stops Buu's ressurection in the first place, which is technically possible, so long as nothing happens that allows Bobadi to realize that he can influence Vegeta.). Buu is consistently stated to be capable of destroying the universe, which includes descriptions such as "like poof", which tells us its not saying over time. But even if we did assume it was over time, we are still talking about multi galaxy levels of power required to reasonably be a threat to the universe, which utterly dwarfs even that generous level for Ichigo. And that is before we go into the fact that Ichigo has no way of actually killing Buu. Even if we ignore the fact that Buu was unkillable, even by people who were massively more powerful than he was, requiring purification to stop him, Ichigo would still need to destroy every single particle, even down to subatomic levels. He has never shown that kind of ability before. There is always something left after he launches his attacks. So even best case scenario, its just a waiting game for Buu until Ichigo tires out and gets himself killed. But that is being ridiculously generous, as Buu saga characters drastically out scale Ichigo by a HUGE margin.

[@JustSomeGuy9]

Disagree, I think Ichigo can definitely get to the tournament of power. Though that's kind of all I can say without being disingenuous to DBS.

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@JustSomeGuy9 You may have been right, and I may have cut things off short, but the gap in speed is absolutely mind boggling. Several thousand times. Nothing Ichigo does will ever land effectively, and I don't like talking about match-ups like that, so much.

[@Super_dragon981]

Bro is trolling 😭🙏

[@knucklestheceoofmemes7755]

In my oppinion. Solos Z and maybe battle of gods goku but that´s where he stops.

[@ProbablyRiku]

If you're right, I'll do five push-ups.

[@knucklestheceoofmemes7755]

@@ProbablyRiku well it's pretty simple. Due to bleach cosmology which are 3 realms and all shoud be Infinite (huedo mundo might be limited but concidering soul society is Infinite and is ment to be paraler to human realm I wouldn't be suprised. Yhwach was about to destroy all of it putting him at low multiversal and Ichigo could damage Yhwach putting Ichigo also at low multiversal.

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

​​@@knucklestheceoofmemes7755The 3 realms of Bleach are three seperate universes of their own and as they are infinite in nature as well as their superiority over our 3D universe means its a 4D multiverse, and you could actually even extend thos further by the feat shown by gremmy where he placed kenpachi in outter space thus confirming that soul society has its own outterverse outside of it being a universe itself. This will make the Senjumaru bankai feat skyrocket in terms of power kevel. She managed to shake the 3 universes and the outter verses at the same time. And ofcourse Ichigo far outscales Senjumaru in terms of power and that too just in true shikai. Bacially he is mid to high multiversal bare minimum in jist true shikai

[@hazmob6744]

​@@ProbablyRiku you definitely doing more than 5

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@hazmob6744 I'm an anime KZbinr bro, I can't do that many. 😭😢😭

[@chrisboricua1911]

he'd get to the angels in dbs or tournament of power

[@Super_dragon981]

The glazing has achieved its bankai

[@Kavewolf1989]

I think you might be underestimating the amount of gap between Android saga, Sall saga and Buu saga unless you think that broly movie broly is stronger than boo, which I don't really think he was meant to seem that way The power cliff between cell and Buu saga should be way larger than the power cliff between Frieza and cell

[@stonegaming675]

shikai ichigo beats characters like gremmy (created a universe) base kenpachi (beat gremmy) and cut spacetime. is relative to characters like uryu who beat senjumaru who shook the heavens & earth's of the 3 universes. id personally say true shikai ichigo is uni+ - low multi

[@Sonicflash1.2]

You heavily underestimating these guys. Cell is not planetary.He is solar system to galaxy level. Getsugo tensho aint one shotting cell because of regeneration same with buu. You also talk like ichigo is way more experienced and more skilled than any of them??? You have been taking away most of dbz's abilities and skilled characters. He aint getting buuhan buddy

[@nickpickxd2138]

Trust me ichigo is stronger than is shown her but I think he's only referring to what we seen in the Anime not his actual scaling. As for regen Cells Regen isn't good enough as ichigo attacks attack beyond an atomic level [mountaintop feat with mere swipes of the blade no reishi required. ] Buu regen requires you to be stronger than him to stop his regen. Gohan completely bypassed it due to his strength.

[@candytime-_-]

We live in a time where people thinks ichigo clears DBZ and reaches super to almost soloing??? ( the glazing is insane) anyways what's stopping sayian saga vegeta from giving him the nappa treatment?

[@ProbablyRiku]

@@candytime-_- Stats? Yeah that probably. We seem to also live in a world where people ignore stats and glaze their favorite characters with no evidence or substance to their arguments. At least try. 🤔

[@candytime-_-]

@@ProbablyRiku what stats? vague "arbitrary" scaling that realize on pure personal beliefs?? disregarding what was shown and done by the character? lets be real here when has anyone in bleach so much as budge a planet with sheer power? and I'm talking about causing tremors are any of the sorts straight up reduce that shit to space dust?? none while you might argue that muh " learn how scale" even then you can't provide anything? it solely up for interpretation so when I see x vs y why has a feat to support while x is supported by "statements" again interpretation* kinda rubs me the wrong way when it comes to seeing who would actually ehh but maybe it's just me :)

[@SleepyCloud-i4z]

​@@candytime-_-they quite literally shook three universes and the void between said universes with sheer power, so everything you said went right out the window

[@Super_dragon981]

​@@SleepyCloud-i4zPerfect cell having 4 universe busting statements is crazy

[@darkling-studios]

Allowing buu to awaken in the first place seems unlikely... And if you consider gokus treatment by beerus you might be able to conclude beerus not killing him, sure he could t beat beerus but that doesn't mean he couldn't go into and contend with super... I feel like you stopped short and should have kept going... Or did you hit 10 minutes and give up?

[@ProbablyRiku]

That's a crazy accusation to make without knowledge of how powerful every single combatant in super is. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you haven't researched the scaling of super characters, because why would you. XD Pretty much everyone becomes a universe buster due to the ABC scaling system of old Anime. Ichigo is outsped by everything by several thousand times, and has no chance of doing anything whatsoever. I'd appreciate the benefit of the doubt before publicly making statements like that. =)

[@ahmedhassan-t7t8t]

Ichmid equals kid Goku victim

[@Berlinh2]

Bro don't disresepect ichigo they're both goats

[@YourboyStink]

Kid Goku+the verse is getting dog walked

[@Zeyna71]

Ichigo negs that fodder

[@ahmedhassan-t7t8t]

Ichmid is gon victim

[@YourboyStink]

@@ahmedhassan-t7t8t 1/10 ragebait

[@dragonfruitgang7357]

Bro’s not making to past vegeta saiyan saga

[@SleepyCloud-i4z]

How? He's low multi

[@SudhishSP-h7k]

True shikai ichigo is hundreds of times faster than light, infact realistucially speaking he cis thpusands of times faster if you take into account all the added multiplyers, and if you yhink i am capping ypu can fobthe math yourself, if you do need proof then you can ask me. He clears a large mumber of DB verse here but ofcourse not all ot it. Howeber he certainly doesnt need to use his bankai that early, i dont wanna give spoilers which is why i am holding back.

[@MATI640]

Friza is only FTL XDDDDDDD OG DB IS FTL Goku by flying to Namek (Namek is on the other side of the universe) is FTL+ are ready and when flying to namek Goku avoids meteorite that was calculated to be millions times FTL to sextilons times FTL sow MFTL+

[@Hingive]

Normal ichigo won't get past vegeta. Because gokus brother is planetry and nappa is alot stronger and might be solar system level, and then vegeta is a few times stronger

[@jibril209username]

RADITZ IS NOT PLANETARY. You need a minimum of 10k to destroy a planet, and vegeta was boasting that his full power galick gun could destroy the planet with a 18k pl.

[@syruslock4993]

@@jibril209username king vegeta hand wave

[@Kamborabanki]

@@jibril209usernameno actually radiz is planetary because a weaker piccolo could destroy the moon with ez and radiz was stronger than him and goku

[@OvercookedOmlette]

True shikai ichigo easily has higher ap and is faster He's oneshotting

[@Hingive]

​@@jibril209usernameroshi could destroy the moon when he was much weaker than raditz

[@MATI640]

You can get goku to infinite speed when he meet pikkon sow.... buu solos hight balled and gleized ichigo and yes you are gleizing ichigo in this video 1 form friza is hight star to solar system lvl and yamamoto top 10 in bleach verse is star lvl at max

[@OvercookedOmlette]

Inconsistent feats Dragon ball is filled with those

[@candytime-_-]

@@OvercookedOmlette like bleakk isn't lmao carpet ichigo next ep🗣

[@OvercookedOmlette]

@@candytime-_- we can also get Ichigo is immeasurable speed Yhwach to infinite speed with twisting things But we don't

[@halojeff15]

realistically speaking big 3 not making it past frieza , you can easily get frieza to uni if you wanted to do so and frieza should be minimum solar system lvl if not higher just based off numbers.

[@MATI640]

How is ichigo multi solar system.... solar system maybe but multi

[@OvercookedOmlette]

He's actually beyond that lol

[@305thief8]

I personally have Ichigo at least at Low Multiversal to arguably 7D due to the Aizen statement comparing his power to dimensionality itself suggesting his power is on a higher dimensional lvl. And at most Outerversal since the Soul King was stated to have transcended everything including concepts like life and death in Bleach which have power over concepts like time and space and if life and death is altered time space and the universes are altered in the realms and will be destroyed if there is an imbalance. Soul King tier characters are also capable of the things the Soul King did but clearly they are much weaker than Prime Reio

[@gustavoferreira212]

disgusting

[@OvercookedOmlette]

The dimensionality statement is likely just a way to convey the difference in power, it can't be proven and it's inconsistent so it's better to not be used

[@mew-t]

I’m sorry, but frieza can easily destroy a planet, and Ichigo has Only displayed that type of potential power via “dangai ichigo”

[@PrinceVegeta-k7f]

Not even above king piccolo as it's stated he can destroy the whole earth something ichigo cant match

[@monyboi3033]

Fat buu CLEARSSSSS he beat gohan ssj2 which is equal or maybe a lil stronger then cell during cell games and he said he was gonna blow up the whole solar system SO HOW DOES BUU LOOSES plus yeah he’s dumb but cracked at the same so it don’t matter