ICOM IC-705 EXPANDED TX MOD - PLAYING ON THE CB BANDS!!!

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andy kirby

andy kirby

2 жыл бұрын

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27Mhz antenna
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@Sneaking
@Sneaking 2 жыл бұрын
This is just what i need! I'm trying to minimize my radio equipment (running out of space) and whith this mod, i can remove the cb (older, big station model) I bought the 705 for it's size and HF/vhf/uhf combination, adding cb capability is just awesome! Thanks Andy! ❤ Subscribed!
@dgafkucky
@dgafkucky 2 жыл бұрын
thats why i love my ft-818 everything in a tiny box and i can use it anyware
@Mortlupo
@Mortlupo 2 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, it doesn't even do that.
@richarddavies774
@richarddavies774 Жыл бұрын
Great video Andy, CB is where I met my wife and long term friends, back in the day.
@arnoldschmidt2753
@arnoldschmidt2753 Жыл бұрын
I found your video excellent for reducing the amount of equipment in the vehicle. Nice job doing the retrofit.
@LoftechUK
@LoftechUK 2 жыл бұрын
That mag loop is stunning
@RingwayManchester
@RingwayManchester 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you out enjoying radio Andy! Love this video!
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers rog!
@mickdalglish6241
@mickdalglish6241 2 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS Awesome stuff from Andy Kirby , cool mate
@JohnBerry1
@JohnBerry1 Жыл бұрын
I can confirm that this works. I used my solder station with an extra-fine-point tip at 700 degrees with an exactor knife and a magnifying glass-lamp (LED) to heat up the diode-spec on the lower left bank and was able to lift one end of the diode. I put everything back together and worked like a champ. I'll be posting some pics to FB soon
@John-yf2uf
@John-yf2uf 2 жыл бұрын
Multifaceted Andy, takes me back to AM radio back in the day, 2..5 2..5 copy, roger dodge
@chuckp3739
@chuckp3739 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. You're like I was as a kid running around with a radio. 73
@andykirby
@andykirby 3 ай бұрын
I was like it as a kid too 🤣
@toddi1971
@toddi1971 2 жыл бұрын
did this to my 7300 ... i recommend to use filter3 on FM because otherwise deviation is too large for most CB radios. You can store the channels in memory and have a very fast channel scan and can use the buttons on the mike for switching channels .. cheers! very nice setup!
@k-5-1-2
@k-5-1-2 Жыл бұрын
Love how you're holding the thing like some WWII HT. :)
@KS-hj6xn
@KS-hj6xn 2 жыл бұрын
A nice little handheld CB could be handy piece of essential equipment in any emergency. Gathering information and the need for reliable communication network hasnt changed for eons..
@Subgunman
@Subgunman 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea what is the bandwidth on the euro version compared to the USA version. Is there a mod to open up the USA frequencies which are from 440 to 449 MHz?
@marksands3237
@marksands3237 4 ай бұрын
Great video andy.also like the trance music you play👍
@bioskahabinivous9906
@bioskahabinivous9906 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa never thought iCom would be that compact! I need one now but im short on budget!
@geoffpriestley7001
@geoffpriestley7001 2 жыл бұрын
Its the remote head your looking at the body will be some were else
@JtagSheep
@JtagSheep 4 ай бұрын
@@geoffpriestley7001No pal the IC-705 is all in one unit there is no seperate head and body.
@paulcollins4932
@paulcollins4932 2 жыл бұрын
Started on CB in Austrailia in 1976 handle is Bushranger, came back to the U.K. in 1980 talking all over the world from Dartmoor
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
nice! I was on a bit later around 1990 when it had its second wind!
@HamTechRadioScannerDrones
@HamTechRadioScannerDrones 2 жыл бұрын
u have more guts than me was interesting seeing dismantle.thanks
@stephendonkin5497
@stephendonkin5497 2 жыл бұрын
Good review mate
@elektroqtus
@elektroqtus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information. Very useful
@kevinlloyd3403
@kevinlloyd3403 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks andy great video didnt know cb was making a comeback will have to dig out the silver eagle and the moonraker and c whats about
@radiofanuk
@radiofanuk 2 жыл бұрын
I always leave the diodes end on, incase they need re fitting in the future. Great Vid
@johnmaclean8203
@johnmaclean8203 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Easier to wideband. Much easier if you need to restore to original state.
@johnlockesghost5592
@johnlockesghost5592 2 жыл бұрын
Putting them on micro switches might be a good play.
@daltonramage9334
@daltonramage9334 2 жыл бұрын
How does that antenna perform on the other upper ham bands like 10, 6 ,2 m?
@barrywelch8256
@barrywelch8256 2 жыл бұрын
Andy I have seen your utube videos and have thought about ebikes what belt driven as chains are short of supply at the moment v belts to drive all bikes
@SunriseCrawlers
@SunriseCrawlers 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting one of these for my truck. How are you liking it? Do you feel like there is a better one for my truck ?
@noahbettin7843
@noahbettin7843 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what the expanded TX freq ranges are for all the bands? I can't find anyone who's listed it.
@walesunt
@walesunt 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and working well 👍
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks👍🏻
@stewpot3971
@stewpot3971 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Would be nice to have 4m on rig this as mentioned. Nice rig nonetheless. And yes 11m is busy these days over in Cambridgeshire/Suffolk as well! 73 DE 2E0HIA
@alzeNL
@alzeNL 2 жыл бұрын
A 4m mod for the 705 would be a god-send ! why did they leave it off ? I never know :(
@paulfowley9062
@paulfowley9062 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy did you wide band the 891 your self if you did any information would be appreciated thanks.paul
@user-eo6vw5bk5u
@user-eo6vw5bk5u Жыл бұрын
Good job Andy 73 from 115kpi/WC
@scaleop4
@scaleop4 2 жыл бұрын
keep it up bud nice vid
@Smirkne
@Smirkne 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I was watching your ebike Trek 5 Marion video. I bought one of my friend but he didn't have the charger. Can you help me with which charger I need to get? Thanks!!!!
@TonyLing
@TonyLing 2 жыл бұрын
South coast (Brighton - Worthing ) is almost non-stop on the 19 too
@ianharling9569
@ianharling9569 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony...G7HFS
@stevendale7658
@stevendale7658 Жыл бұрын
Luv your keyboards dude sherweeet I'd love to get my hands on them
@geo2472
@geo2472 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, thanks for the videos. Would a mod like this work on the Icom ID52e?
@davidweatherill5472
@davidweatherill5472 2 жыл бұрын
The best handheld CB I’ve seen for a while! Keep up the good work.
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks mate!
@ericf6flq455
@ericf6flq455 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys ! Keep cool ! .... Very usefull video before opening the 705 to get it TX .... on 60M as well, if you don't like CB ! Curiously It doesn't from standard. Thanks Andy.
@MrApolloTom
@MrApolloTom Жыл бұрын
Mine has opened up marine and 446 as well, thanks!
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- Жыл бұрын
Does this also allow you to use the US GMRS bands? Thanks!
@keivkeiv
@keivkeiv 6 ай бұрын
Cutting edge videos. Enjoying it. Do you know if the 705 can transmit on 466.0000? They are business frequencies in US. Thank you.
@acplguk
@acplguk 2 жыл бұрын
Andy's modifying things again! Deja vu, anyone?
@MikeDeal
@MikeDeal 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, you have and esk8 too. Good vid, I want to mod my 705, I already did it to my 7300. The 705 is so much better for portable ops, I am thinking of getting the backpack just for skating around.. :D 73's N7URH
@SBPepperminion
@SBPepperminion 2 ай бұрын
There's a catch. In the U.S. and some other countries, its 4 watts max when using the citizen's band radio service on FM and AM, but 12 on Single Sideband. Does the radio know to lower output, or do you just have to be careful?
@bumblebee-mygt867
@bumblebee-mygt867 17 күн бұрын
I wonder if the manual has details of what diodes do what frequencies. Back in the 70s the Icom IC 240 used the same diode synthesiser control system to activate channels
@PhilMozchops1974
@PhilMozchops1974 2 жыл бұрын
superb still have my Harrier cbx from tandy. just think they were illegal in the 70's until everyone started to say up yours government!!!! lets hope this will happen again with P E V 's. great video Andy.
@ben2e0omr
@ben2e0omr 2 жыл бұрын
The Harrier CBX was Dixons.....
@catalinalb1722
@catalinalb1722 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Andy! 🙂 I was thinking of using my cb radio for FT8 🙂
@AdamSmith-fe9jf
@AdamSmith-fe9jf 2 жыл бұрын
Any rides on the Vapour coming soon?
@xxxenricop
@xxxenricop 2 жыл бұрын
A curiosity. What about applying pressure on the diode with something like a box cutter o a small, sharp flat head to break it? Would "incapacitating" the diode not achieve the same result?
@TonyLing
@TonyLing 2 жыл бұрын
You can snip them with a fine pair of side-cutters, but it does risk lifting the pads. I find two soldering irons is the best method.
@jcmo69
@jcmo69 2 жыл бұрын
Just tell them to bash the thing with a rock why don't ya?
@ads3453
@ads3453 2 жыл бұрын
Its been a long time since I have been near a CB moved to HAM stuff a long time ago and never looked back. However I do remember there being a power limit on CB or at least when I was using them of 4 watts. Isnt the 705 capable of 10 watts ?
@OllieVK
@OllieVK 2 жыл бұрын
705 is 5W on its own battery. Can go up to 10W with an external power source, but you can set that in the radio as well. It's 5W for CB (at least in Aus anyway).
@mrcleanisin
@mrcleanisin Жыл бұрын
Mirrow image is distracting. Are there any digital CBs?
@Scif64
@Scif64 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy. I wouldn't do this on mine, but nice video 73
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Hi mate, got some new antennas to try as well.
@Stealthmodeactivated-h8w
@Stealthmodeactivated-h8w 2 жыл бұрын
Love the radio Andy , but won’t be doing mine.
@PLL02A
@PLL02A 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Andy. Ignore the negative comments below from the disgruntled & uneducated. Keep on enjoying the radio hobby on all bands including cb radio. Cheers.
@cwqrpportable
@cwqrpportable 2 жыл бұрын
Does the maple leaf as your posting name indicate you're in Canada?
@kevinmccool3719
@kevinmccool3719 2 жыл бұрын
What brand and model is the antenna with BNC connecter you are using for 11 meters?
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
amzn.to/3krUpBO (affiliate link)
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at getting into radios, don't really know were to start but I will say I laughed at the end of the video as I'm also a synth man. Like I can see you're a Roland fan. I had a Roland w30 years ago and more recently a JDXi and still have the MX1 mixer from the aira line. I've gone full Analogue lately. Must be some crossover there with how the mind works. Anyway cool video man. Subscribed and hopefully I'll figure this game out at some point.
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Yeah great minds think alike! I'm going to do a video soon about getting in to radio. Thanks for subscribing, welcome to the channel.
@Patrickjdee66
@Patrickjdee66 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers matey , not sure I would be confident enough to take a chance messing with the 705 inners, but was good to watch, I’m literally back to radio this year, used to have a CB in the 80s, an old maxcom 4e lol, got my ham licence in March and got a bit bored with Ham so bought a Randy 3, just need to get an antenna outside , daft question coming up, could I use a mag mounted antenna in my loft, I wanted to buy the Sirio 5000, would it work? I’m sure the SWR would be all over the place, I almost pressed the buy button earlier but held back, all the best mate
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Right, so hold fire on the sirio, it'll never work great in the loft unless you get really creative and make a massive groundplane or loads of radials underneath it, mobile antennas are groundplane antennas so they need a really good groundplane. The best sort of antenna for cb is a 5/8 wave vertical 30ft above the ground. Yeah it's gonna be big but that's just how it is! Alternatively the sirio boomerang on a pole on the ground or mounted at gutter height (or higher) is a smaller option that still works well. Cheaper option is a wire dipole from ebay for 11M on a 10M telescopic pole from amazon on a heavy parasol base! A lot of CB action is on SSB but there is activity on FM, you'll likely need an amplifier too as everyone runs a bit of power these days to get over the noise! I'll do a video on all this soon!
@Patrickjdee66
@Patrickjdee66 2 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby , top man, thanks for the response Andy, so glad I held back from buying, I’ll look out for your video , all the best mate
@Dave64track
@Dave64track 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good nice little mod, I have two Handheld CB radios I will have to bring them back to life and see if any body is in my area not used them for years as nobody has been on.
@sq7wojwojtek314
@sq7wojwojtek314 2 жыл бұрын
Works Nice ..👌
@muratseven3910
@muratseven3910 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, thank you for your working video. I need Zastone D9000 circuit diagram or schematics for unlocking. Can you help me pls?
@LabiaLicker
@LabiaLicker 5 ай бұрын
would you recommend this for car use?
@norman-justerieyazon4819
@norman-justerieyazon4819 Жыл бұрын
Does this mod work on all models of the 705??? Japanese, European and US models?
@ArturMichajluk
@ArturMichajluk Жыл бұрын
Does it transmitt on 27.180 after this mod?
@TristamMayes
@TristamMayes 2 жыл бұрын
🎉🎉new drinking game🍺🍺🍺 Every time Andy says “Basically” take a shot, I’m currently in hospital with alcohol poisoning and the doctors say my liver will never recover 😂 On a serious note another fantastic video Andy and great to see CB’s coming back in to fashion.
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
haha! yeah I normally edit a few "basically's" out! hope you are well mate.
@TristamMayes
@TristamMayes 2 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby don’t edit them out this is going to be a new trend 😂 yea I’m all good thanks Andy, currently in New Caledonia in the South Pacific building a crane.
@jamesbrownmiller808
@jamesbrownmiller808 2 жыл бұрын
The last time I check channel 19 in the United States is at a frequency of 27.185 MHz. Back in the mid to late 1970’s I knew what the frequencies were for each of the 40 channels at that time!
@denp54z
@denp54z Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm confused as well. 27781 is way out of CB land. 27405 is ch40. So 27781 is even above free handers on 27555 area . So Andy what's up wit dat man ?
@pmr446
@pmr446 Жыл бұрын
@@denp54z Here in the United Kingdom the UK40 channel band plan is between 27.60125 to 27.99125 incrementing in 10 kHz steps. So 27.78125 mhz is UK channel 19.
@jamiecoburn1231
@jamiecoburn1231 8 ай бұрын
@@pmr446 Learn something new every day!
@chrisw1462
@chrisw1462 2 жыл бұрын
What's up with the reverse image ???
@andrewsquires7230
@andrewsquires7230 Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy , bit the same here , Amateur call and R1250RT ! 73 Andy
@tmccarthy
@tmccarthy 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, and others in the community, Just wondering if you or anyone on here has had any luck with widebanding this to cover TX/RX on 4m/70Mhz and what output power you're getting if any. I'm seeing mixed reports on online forums. It would be great to hear about your experiences with it. 73's Tom
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- Жыл бұрын
Yes please! Can you transmit on 467.000mHz?
@Didi1.275
@Didi1.275 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the radio can transmit on 467 MHz@@DontM8-__-
@Didi1.275
@Didi1.275 11 ай бұрын
Yes, after mod, the radio can also receive and transmit on 70MHz, complete shortwave (excep. lowest frequency, under 1,6 MHz), It transmit also in the airband with all of modulations! 2m - from 118 MHz to 173,99 MHz 70cm 400 MHz to 469,99 MHz 6m from SW to 54 MHz 4m from 68 MHz to 74,79 MHz 73
@ericfort940
@ericfort940 2 жыл бұрын
Will the mod allow am trancieve on 121.5mhz?
@iz7fmm
@iz7fmm Жыл бұрын
I like your Brummies accent, very british! Here in BC we have too many yankeee's influence! :D
@mindfulmunchkin1215
@mindfulmunchkin1215 2 жыл бұрын
Here in OZ we so needed to have CB UHF 470-480, what was Icom thinking..
@johannwwrtattt4909
@johannwwrtattt4909 11 ай бұрын
Habe mal ein abo für dein video da gelassen. 73 Johann
@BRADH-xw8sw
@BRADH-xw8sw Ай бұрын
Andy - does it cover 460-470Mhz for US GMRS ?
@billcooperpatriot1059
@billcooperpatriot1059 2 жыл бұрын
So 27.781 is channel 19? Around here channel 19 is on 27.185
@VicGreenBitcoin
@VicGreenBitcoin Жыл бұрын
Why is this not a standard switched on?
@gp1031
@gp1031 Жыл бұрын
Had a look inside my 705 which originally came from Icom U.K. and there is only one of the two diodes installed (the one in the corner)
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
Can you put a link to the mag loop please
@tactix101
@tactix101 2 жыл бұрын
for a nice homebrew sdr take a look at the radioberry hat for the raspberry pie
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh cool, I will.
@nevellgreenough404
@nevellgreenough404 2 жыл бұрын
No, the screws are not left-hand threaded. Parts of the vid are L-R reversed. The board closeup appears to be correct. But nice to see the insides of the '705! 73s, N2GX
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 2 жыл бұрын
Enable the Active Noise Filter to lose some of that noise.
@marcocioccoloni7650
@marcocioccoloni7650 2 жыл бұрын
good job
@richardfink2712
@richardfink2712 2 жыл бұрын
I'm buying one now!
@regularguy519
@regularguy519 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the difference between the USA and EU 705's, both with this mod? The EU version is less money ordering it from overseas even though I'm in the USA. No seller here knows even the big one.. Tryin to save a buck on the radio for a tuner. Great video by the way!
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- Жыл бұрын
Yeah i would like to know that also and if it opens GMRS TX as well
@Firefoxsimp
@Firefoxsimp 2 жыл бұрын
can you do a video of the twizy off road?
@SkyWire88
@SkyWire88 Жыл бұрын
Hello-- So , what is the maximum power output on your IC-705?
@jamiecoburn1231
@jamiecoburn1231 8 ай бұрын
10W with a power supply 5 with the internal battery . Obviously..... he will adjust it to spec......
@alzeNL
@alzeNL 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, I would be nervous as hell doing this to my IC-705 ! I can build kits with SMT. I really like your confidence tho and its very interesting. I think I'll keep to my CRT SS6900N for 10m and 11 meters.
@geoffpriestley7001
@geoffpriestley7001 2 жыл бұрын
I did it with a 706 scared the crap out of me
@MagicRichC
@MagicRichC 2 жыл бұрын
This maybe what I have been looking for, Thanks.... (How did you get the frequency backwards on your screen, 705 :-) hahah. )
@FREDGARRISON
@FREDGARRISON Жыл бұрын
Was wondering that myself. yuk yuk
@TeamYankee2
@TeamYankee2 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the video mirrored?
@hobbyrob313
@hobbyrob313 2 жыл бұрын
I took a flat soldering tip and filed a U in it, because of that I easily soldered the SMD diode out of my Kenwood. Regards Rob
@SkyWire88
@SkyWire88 Жыл бұрын
Great idea. Just don't loose that tip for later down the road.
@rdrhouse
@rdrhouse 2 жыл бұрын
takes me back to the great AM days
@qrphfradio7753
@qrphfradio7753 2 жыл бұрын
It's easier to just crush the zero ohm resistor with a thin pair of snips..That's the way I've always done wide banding on mine,, that way you still have the solder pads in place should you want to add a blob of solder to return it back to amateur bands only..
@andykirby
@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good tip, they are tiny diodes gotta be carefull not to pull the pads up!
@qrphfradio7753
@qrphfradio7753 2 жыл бұрын
yeah you dont want to be damaging the pads, just use light pressure when crushing the component, it doesnt take much pressure with them being tiny..
@kolbeck69
@kolbeck69 2 жыл бұрын
cool Andy I chat on the uk 19 quite often modded my xiegu g90 as well im . 47ct02 , maybe chat with you one day Cheers
@carlosorozco943
@carlosorozco943 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@onemansjunk01
@onemansjunk01 2 жыл бұрын
Today I learned something new 👍🏼👌🏼🤘🏼
@machoneboard
@machoneboard 2 жыл бұрын
Does this unlock all frequencies for transmit?
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- Жыл бұрын
i would love to know
@TonyLing
@TonyLing 2 жыл бұрын
Unscrewing those M3s in reverse image just looked so wrong Andy :-)
@conchd
@conchd 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Why did you post it in reverse image?
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok 2 жыл бұрын
@@conchd Depends on the cell phone and which camera he used to make video. Lots of vids on YT are reversed, just that it is not always obvious.
@dafyddr8678
@dafyddr8678 2 жыл бұрын
Great Mod Andy... Rather you than I at the price of that radio !
@richardbutterfoss2353
@richardbutterfoss2353 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! RWB
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 ай бұрын
I have an Icom IC-718 and an Icom IC-728, both full coverage HF ham radios. The 718 is a fairly new radio, has been around more than 20 years, but you can still find them new. I understand they are being discontinued. The 728 is a much older radio, last made in 1992. They are both much larger and heavier than the IC-705. They are intended to be used as base stations. I consider the 728 the best radio, it has a triple conversion superheterodyne receiver, something you just don't see anymore. It does not have menus and is not programmable. Both put out 100 watts max. The 728 has what is known in the U.S. as a MARS mod, which allows it to work on 11 meters SSB, both transmit and receive. The 718 can be converted, but it is much harder to do, and I don't want to ruin it. I would never try what you just did. Good way to ruin an almost $1400 radio.
@seankj7kel294
@seankj7kel294 2 жыл бұрын
Does it open up 2m and or 70cm as well?
@OllieVK
@OllieVK 2 жыл бұрын
The ones sold in Aus have 2m and 70cm unlocked.
@tracym427
@tracym427 Жыл бұрын
Will it transmit on GMRS freqs like 462mhz? I just did the mod but it quits tx’n at 457mhz and up
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- Жыл бұрын
Can ANYONE answer this?
@tracym427
@tracym427 Жыл бұрын
@@DontM8-__- it won’t. I did the mod and it only will TX up to around 457 mhz. If you have another radio close by monitoring gmrs and you are transmitting on same freq after mod you will hear it on other radio but I think it’s coming from the portion of the radio that hasn’t went thru the amplification circuit yet. With a watt meter you will see there is virtually no output power on gmrs. Maaaybe .01watt. Everyone else I have found is having the same results after the mod.
@DontM8-__-
@DontM8-__- Жыл бұрын
Dang thank you for the heads up!!
@tracym427
@tracym427 Жыл бұрын
@@DontM8-__- No problem buddy. Still works on 11 meters and I think Mars freqs.
@noahbettin7843
@noahbettin7843 Жыл бұрын
@@tracym427 Do you know what the expanded TX freq ranges are for all the bands? I can't find anyone who's listed it. Interested in MURS like 154.6
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