Iconic Watches That Are Really Disappointing

[@manbearpigonabike]

I don't find the history of the speedmaster disappointing at all to be honest. Building something for a specific purpose is neat and cute, but having a robust and solid design off the bat that is capable of withstanding an unintended purpose is something else.

[@aureate]

Until the crystal pops off.

[@coffeeisgood102]

I thought of that too. Omega techs just built it to be the best they could make it, and then, NASA found it and it fit their specs perfect. How many other products are out there that could build something without consulting NASA and still meet their specs. My guess is not very many.

[@Nichomachus]

Exactly my thoughts! I’ve always found it very cool that their standard product already met all the specs that NASA came up with. No product placement / sponsorship, just “the best” NASA could find at the moment, with no need for modifications except the Velcro strap!

[@josephcarcasole6039]

The story of the Speedmaster makes it better, not disappointing. Making a watch good enough for NASA when you're not even trying is much more impressive than succeeding with an all out specified effort.

[@pieterjlansbergen6988]

Funny thing is that the Speedmaster initially turned out to be inadequate as on one of the first spacewalks the crystal popped out because of the pressure differential.

[@ilmostro16]

My feelings exactly, this is the opposite of disappointment.

[@ilmostro16]

@@pieterjlansbergen6988 That was one instance. When NASA tested watches, the Speedmaster did win. I think the hands on the Rolex ant for testing melted.

[@jussil5762]

I agree

[@mimikatz]

The copium of you Speedmaster fanboys knows know (no) limits 😂

[@ilmostro16]

Andrew, the fact the Speedmaster was so good and so perfect for astronauts without even trying isn’t disappointing at all, it’s the opposite. That makes it even more impressive!

[@jmann2977]

Well done! Informative, very well written, and entertaining! *By the way, I don't think Andrew is really disappointed with these iconic watches - he's just having a little fun taking them down a notch from their vaulted status.

[@cos-9113]

One item that makes the Rolex Submariner response seem less surprising, the Commercial Director of Rolex in charge of Marketing was a dive partner of Blancpain’s co-CEO Fiechter in 1952 when Fiechter was testing the development versions of the Fifty Fathoms he was developing.

[@garyboyle695]

You'll trigger the Rolex fan boys and girls with facts like that.

[@steelsteez6118]

Ahhh that's a very nifty tidbit that I didn't know 😊

[@marcusaurelius49]

Well, we should thank Rolex for making their watches so impossible to purchase that they won’t be disappointing unsuspecting watch buyers any time soon. 😂

[@Chrissepisje]

If the Blancpain / Rolex story is shocking to some who have been living under a epistemological rock, I wonder what would happen if you drew Zodiac into the story. But the story about the Navitimer not being for the faint of heart is really another reason to appreciate Breitling. That said, you underestimate, terribly, the importance of having trains run on time. The history of the Railway watch is long, interesting, and a cornerstone of the thinking that begat the industrial revolution. Timing stuff. Important since 1850. :)

[@WilMenJr]

I learn so much from Andrew on this channel. Wonderful content! Thank you so much.

[@howardmckenna]

So the Monaco isn't disappointing in of itself. It's more the lack of an origin story. I'm pleased by that as I feel I won't be disappointed when I meet my hero, so to speak.

[@vimagreg]

Great video!! My biggest disappointment? Seeing a Daytona in person. I was like "seriously? That's the one people talk so much about?"

[@stanwilson7040]

You're paying for the BRAND NAME, bro and resale value...The watch itself costs around 100$ to make

[@georgemagdaleno]

I saw a Two-Tone Bracelet on one, Afterwards I sat quietly and thought the the same thing. Wow seriously, whats the big deal?

[@rumipak]

I had exactly the same feeling when I first saw a two tone at an AD. It looked like a cheap toy watch.

[@mikej5959]

@@stanwilson7040 Theres no way it costs 100 to make. Maybe materials raw but not the whole process. Not saying it costs anywhere near retail but its not 100 to make. Probably costs a few hundred to make. Most of that being labor and facilities. Then if you include marketing, shipping and other costs its probably a little more than a few hundred.

[@tiegoz]

Totally agree, the Daytona is the most disappointing watch - I don't understand why anyone would go through the pain of buying one.

[@fredlarke3806]

When I was a kid in the 1950's, I remember Dick Tracy had a "smart watch"" that he could use as a radio/phone. Modern smart watch can't do that.

[@zyembla]

Nautilus and royal oak in person are truly disappointing. To the point of sadness. Rolexes I already knew were disappointing

[@rickjason215]

Wearing a Submariner looks so pretentious. People are going diving at the mall? Is it really worth $10,000? The difference between a Sub and a good $2,000 dive watch is marketing. Is a Royal Oak worth the insane price?

[@RobertTaylor-ub6hv]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but if you put a 5990 on your wrist, feel the weight, see the beautiful dial, and work the complications I think you will find it is anything but disappointing. Now not ever being able to get one is very disappointing.

[@MrPleers]

@@rickjason215 People probable think it's one of the countles "homage" watches like Pagani Design, Steinhart, Invicta or San Martin.

[@michaelriera6277]

What disappointed you about the Royal Oak and Nautilus.

[@Weakeyedominant]

Agreed on the Nautilus and Submariner when I tried them on they were both incredibly underwhelming, they only sell over retail due to hype from flippers.

[@fieldwalker]

Don’t want and never wanted a Sub. So still don’t get why it’s so popular. The resale prices are hilarious

[@barrettwbenton]

First automatic chronograph...(cough...Seiko Speedtimer...cough...) Great overview though, Andrew!

[@mikelewis2456]

A Richard Mille the crazy pricing and incredible hype is disappointing 🤔Andrew as always great video full of information and history👍👍

[@jakedooom]

nah, the navitimer slide rule’s very useful. It does multiplication, and division directly and easily, and it’s a great help with factorisation too… Yes, I agree it’s crap at addition and subtraction, but at least that’s relatively easy to do mentally.

[@billymania11]

To this day the Rolex Sub is a mystery to me. I value a steel cased watch with a good movement at 2 thousand dollars max. (During the Vietnam era, GI's would take leave in Bangkok and pickup a Rolex for 200 bucks.) Only if it was made of noble metals would I value it higher because then it would have intrinsic worth.

[@waterfordrs22]

Prior to the quartz crisis, Rolex was simply a manufacture of very good tool watches. They were something a blue collar worker could work towards and wear, it was a daily wear. I bunch of things have changed- inflation for one. Blue collar wages haven’t kept up with inflation over the course of time, gone are the days when such a worker could support a family alone. Rolex itself had to reinvent itself as something more exclusive that was worth a premium. It’s only in the last twenty years prices have gone nuts. And that includes vintage Rolex as well. So while you could buy a z Rolex for 200 bucks in ‘69, they was far from cheap. What was the average price for a car or house back then?

[@betochiwas]

Well according to one page I checked 200 in 69 is equivalent to 1600

[@waterfordrs22]

@@betochiwas sounds about right. Hardly a casual purchase, but within reach of someone who made it a priority. When seen in terms of today’s dollars, that $200 price tag is obviously a hell of a lot closer the the self imposed limit of the person who made the comment than it is to $200.

[@rava2107]

Check your history, the fifty fathom was a co-operative design between Blancpain and a French navy captain, and the design parameters were established by the two, not the us navy they basically used the French specifications.

[@marteanderson7963]

Tudor. I went into a Watches of Switzerland and the sales representative just went on and on about how great Tudor was and it was his watch and on and on. I thought the damn thing was the ugliest watch I had seen in quite some time. To each his own.

[@verynormalman]

Why do you tell this story? Why did you go to the shop? It just doesn't make any sense.

[@jsusna1972]

Odd that the Navy report on the Rolex Submariner contains a ZIP code for the Experimental Dive Unit at the Washiington Navy Yard. ZIP codes were first used starting July 1, 1963.

[@garyboyle695]

It was not a zip code it was postal district/zone number issued by the United States Post Office Department, they started May 1943.

[@jsusna1972]

@@garyboyle695, those were 1- or 2-digit codes, but the increased volume of mail necessitated the 5-digit codes (Zone Improvement Plan, aka ZIP) in 1963.

[@jpdemer5]

Perhaps it was not released to the public until 1963 or later? I thought that maybe the military got zip codes early on, but that's not the case: even a four-digit code was only a matter of discussion in 1961. Another fun possibility is that it just took that long to complete the paperwork!

[@alokintesla]

Love the feed, 👍 Monaco true story however, is a little different. It takes place in LA and involves a friends grandfather.

[@johnswatchjoint]

Thoroughly engaging and very enjoyable. Thank you :)

[@Stoy981]

I’ve always thought the Seiko Samurai was a good looking watch, and was sorely disappointed when a Euro exclusive limited edition slipped through my heads. But then I had the opportunity to see one in person and try it on and I was disappointed by how cheap it felt. I also experienced the Sumo and Turtle and both looked and felt much higher quality.

[@mimikatz]

Andrew you need more clarification on your submariner and US Navy information. The model tested was the 6538 which was approved for the Special Boat Service (SBS Royal Navy) with a few mods the 1958 report downed it for (wider bezel, fixed kings) and became the 6540. So it’s not exactly like it wasn’t used ever for military purposes.

[@jvduckmanton7162]

The Monaco is my grail watch. Absolutely gorgeous and with heaps of style and cool..

[@jeffusrangerairborne9061]

Hey! Talking Hands.... Wasn't Seiko that Released their Automatic Chronograph first???

[@jacobt1027]

It was one of the first. it was a race between several watch makers

[@rumipak]

@@jacobt1027 Indeed, Zenith El Primero was also among the first and only one with a hi beat chronograph movement.

[@jeffusrangerairborne9061]

@@jacobt1027 But indeed It Was SEIKO that Brought theirs To Market First, Making it the First to Market. The Other Guys (The Swiss) that Teamed Up to Produce theirs , did So "Probably Slightly Earlier🤷" But SEIKO did Release theirs To Market before them.

[@dominicrobertson7626]

I own a watch in a smilar style to the Navitimer (thr Hamilton Khaki Aviation Converter Auto) and with a little bit of practice the slide rule is quite easy to use. Provided you have it off your wrist

[@Rhal63]

Where do you find this stuff. I’m glad I can just touch a screen and bammmm. There it is. Thanks Andrew

[@Paul-tk2my]

I was going to make the point about the Speedmaster, but it seems like we’re all in agreement here. The Monaco embodies stylistic elements that I don’t find pleasing; square dial and subdials and chunky late 60s/70s styling. Yet I love it! The most disappointing watch I’ve ever owned was a Seiko 5, I think they’re called. Although new, it stopped working within a couple of days and has been in the drawer for 20 years. My wife bought it as a stop gap while I was contemplating something a bit more high end.

[@Pengochan]

4:20 Well, for someone who knows how to use a slide rule (admittedly rare these days) it's not hard to use one in the form of a circle. Others might want the thing for the looks. I mean, right now I'm wearing a dive watch water tight to 300 m that is very unlikely to see more water than the occasional sprinkle when I'm washing my hands, with a unidirectional rotating bezel that was never used for any meaningful purpose.

[@stevehen1000]

Did anyone else get the Stanley Kubrick joke? Maybe Omega never went to the moon afterall !!!!!!!!!!!!!111

[@spittinvenom9843]

Kubrick wore a MONACO

[@MarkStark-dx9dm]

"and he's basically part Orca by now" 😂😂😂

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Where are the talking hands? I just see heads now.

[@MichaelOCallaghan-fq4ej]

I'm usually disappointed with any watch I buy after a few weeks. Great video. 👍

[@johanvandersandt8904]

I was there Gandalf...I was there before the smartwatch...

[@WMUCarGuy]

What's more, when the propmaster laid out a bunch of watches for Steve McQueen to look at for the movie Le Mans, there were other brands on the table, too. McQueen didn't initially choose the Monaco, or even a Heuer - it wasn't until he was reminded that his firesuit bore the Heuer logo (since he chose to wear the same one as Siffert) that he was persuaded to wear a Heuer for the movie. From there, he chose the Monaco out of the lot. The one thing people can complain about the Monaco Calibre 11 Monaco is that it has a Sellita-based movement inside. I have no issues whatsoever with a Sellita, or Eta, but when a watch retails for, now, more than $7,000 USD, many discerning buyers would expect something a bit more unique. It doesn't really bother me much, but it is definitely a complaint heard often. Regardless of how potentially not actually exciting the lore of the story is, the Monaco is still my favorite watch and the one in my collection I cherish the most.

[@coffeeisgood102]

You hit the nail on the head with the Apple Watch. Very unexciting. Does lots of useful still but doesn’t make my heart beat faster. My Omega caliber 1045, which does way less causes me to jump up and down and scream “I’m Happy”, as does my Tissot and my Rodania and my Ball pocket watch and my Enicar and the list goes on. Sorry Apple, I use your tablet, tv and laptop, but that watch of yours, is just not a watch.

[@stavros_katsopr]

Thank you for taking such a hard hit on analog chronos... brother! LOL (don't know why people go nuts about them and... never use them!)

[@richardnedbalek1968]

The detailed background stories always interest me.

[@mellow-jello]

Thanks for the USN story behind the Submariner design. Looking at my Duro, and the design language from the USN engineering sketch, makes my decision on my watch ever better, thanks Andrew.

[@saabysaabinsky2785]

Just purchase Kindle version of New Dawn...looking forward to reading it.

[@undy]

Finally someone pronounces blanc pain correctly. Interesting facts by the way.

[@Newerasamearea]

That navy issue of the fifty fathoms is a beaut.

[@3316xtendedmedia]

I amazed by how much you know.Thanks for all your content...

[@Kostja81]

Great video as always no surprises here. I hope Rolex Cultist were listening. I know you don't really care about history if it doesn't favor you but it is good to have some extra knowledge :-)

[@htschmerdtz4465]

Other than a quick-to-die gray-market Seiko chronograph I bought in the early 1980s, I was most disappointed by the Swiss chronograph I bought in Lucerne while on a high school summer study tour in 1972. I was a budding private pilot and the early '70s were the height of the bad old days before the quartz crisis (revolution) when the Swiss had a monopoly and could do as they pleased. they were pleased to sell me a beautiful but not well-known brand chronograph that failed irreparably within 18 months. It would be fifty years before I bought my next Swiss watch.

[@markhpluygers2226]

Andrew, are we going to be disappointed with the Tentagraph? They sold 2 in Amsterdam this week!.....

[@jeremysmith9696]

I love this video. I remember I was all crazy over the Rolex Submariner Hulk. My wife and I went to Seattle for my birthday and went to Ben Bridge jewelers and they had a Rolex display on the way in. They had the hulk and I got to try it on. M'ehh.... was so disappointed. did absolutely nothing for me.

[@nestorblanco7110]

The Rolex submariner - Blancpain FF - Zodiac sea wolf history, remind me of the Smiths Everest - Rolex explorer and its advertising about being the first in the Everest summit. Again, Rolex number 2.

[@HRM.H]

For me the Speedmaster 1863 was a huge dissapointment.

[@verynormalman]

Rolex could never have become the watch of space. You'd drive to the shopping centre on the moon, park, then go to AD, only to be kept waiting until your oxygen ran out. Imagine the sulking and the atmosphere as you drive home over 2 million miles without the watch you wanted?

[@TimeHonouredTradition]

This is great, love to hear someone cutting through the marketing BS! Well done Andrew :)

[@Rhal63]

When you’re working wear a smart watch that keeps you connected. When you’re out with your wife or friends, wear something that says I’m all yours let’s chat. Thanks Andrew

[@Gumby56]

My submariner with the Cyclops was very inaccurate, no more Rolex's for me.

[@mpsmith35]

My ex-father-in-law had the same problem with his gold datejust. Not sure he ever got it working properly. It was not what I would expect for such an expensive brand.

[@rebelranter]

The only one I don’t have is the Monaco! 😂 It’s disappointing that your didn’t have more disappointing watches!😊

[@turbohusque]

I think we need to get Andrew a step-ladder, because he's reaching to make a Speedmaster disappointing in any way.

[@StefanoMaggio]

That's what makes the Speedmaster even cooler to me. It wasn't built for it. It was organically that good!

[@wilhelmw3455]

Many KZbin channels may start with good intentions but descend into clickbate titles and the like thanks to the algorithms.

[@Chiller11]

I think Steve McQueen is the only person who could actually rock the Monaco. It looks like a big block of a thing on everyone else.

[@spittinvenom9843]

Nah, it looks F n wicked cool on my wrist

[@Tizianv]

Half way through the video, trying to wait until the end to make up my mind but c'mon.. that's just clickbait! Don't like it.

[@leobellantoni1559]

For once I’ll disagree about the Apple not having a web browser. Not that I have or want that “watch”. Rather because a very common design flaw in electronics is to add more features than the input & output devices - in this case, a small screen, a button & a scroll knob - can comfortably support. Emphasis on the comfortable.

[@mimikatz]

Exactly. Who’s going to use a web browser on a watch.

[@leobellantoni1559]

@@mimikatz Remember how in the 1980's VCRs were capable of recording your show when you were away but they only had like 5 buttons and the instructions to use this feature were too complicated and we had a nation full of blinking 12:00 displays? Steve Jobs was the only one in product design who realized that this is a problem. Even now, 4 decades later.

[@lead-dog]

Gee, I wonder if Rolex ever got around to making the Submariner up to "snuff" for the Navy? I sure hope so. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@GEMSofGOD_com]

I freakin LUV Sad Keanu

[@GauravSareenWingman]

Ironic or Destiny - a watch once sold at bait and tackle shops now has ultra-exclusive 1500 sq ft boutiques in the world's best airports with barely 15 watches on display in the entire space.

[@robinmarples5198]

Was afraid to see the sbgx261 grand seiko on this list ... but it is not... Iconic without the desapointment

[@ALL-il1sw]

Rolex was started by a business man, not a watch maker. What's impressive about Rolex's history is the business and marketing strategies, not their watchmaking abilities

[@NaNa-wj8tw]

Total rubbish. They make phenomenal watches that have Cosc movements and tank like durability. There are millions of us who don't care that the complication isn't quite as fancy as those made by delicate makers like AP or Patek. They make a handful of watches a year still. If Rolex went that route you could imagine the outcry as a million isn't enough as it is. Get over it ffs. Just buy something else.

[@ALL-il1sw]

@@NaNa-wj8tw so what exactly is total rubbish, Hans Wilsdorf was NOT a watch maker, he WAS a business man and has made some impressive business and marketing moves. Don't forget bro, facts don't care about your feelings, so don't get triggered. I'm not trying to take away from Rolex's desirability, but that doesn't equate to watch making abilities. Millions of people wanting to buy, is just millions of people susceptible to marketing strategies, and that's quite ok for them. If facts upset you, that's on you, not me. If you have something factual for me to consider, I'm all ears.

[@LeftyFox2]

Excellent video! I think the Navy could increase recruitment if they standard issued Rolex Submariners for new Sailors upon boot camp graduation 🤣 too bad it was recommended for deletion in 1958 😏

[@georgemagdaleno]

Omega Seamasters on Commision after OTS.

[@MrPleers]

The downside of the Rolex Submariner is that distracting overkill of text on the dial. (Rolex Oyster Perpetual Submariner 1000ft = 300m Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified Swiss Made).

[@bani_niba]

If you really look into the R-brand's history, it's truly laughable that this same brand is now so sought after. During its formative years, it became popular because it was cheaper and "good enough", not because it was "the best".

[@Weakeyedominant]

Every watch brand has to start somewhere.

[@CayenneTurboDriver]

Keanu Reeves wears a Sub and has bought Subs for all of his stuntmen. That watch must be great! ❤️

[@u.d.7543]

Now I know the history of these watches, the only two I would consider are speedmaster and navitimer. No rolex, no tag heuer, no apple.

[@gfxdaddy]

Look up the Rolex Zerographe, this isn’t the channel to learn about Rolex from - they’re either poorly researched or have an agenda.

[@AdamBA380]

The Casio F-91W, to me, is very disappointing. Classic, yes, but spend even just a fiver more and you can get better illumination, better water resistance, better visibility. Then again that fiver is a 50% price increase so… 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@11111mhmhmh]

I would not wear any of those watches, even if they were given to me for free. they aren't very appealing, I don't care what other people would think. none of them speak to me. if I was a person that follows what society tells you to do, then sure, I would. but that isn't me :)

[@gfxdaddy]

The misinformation in this channel is something else. For anyone interested in where the Submariner (and most modern Rolex) DNA actually stems from, look up the Rolex Zerographe 3346 - designed / built in 1937, it predates both the Blancpain and that blueprint by 15 years. And the “triangle at 12, rectangles at 3,6,9”, the Zerographe did it first in 1937, and *may* have been the inspiration for that blueprint. The Rolex Turnographe was completed and released at the same time as the Fifty Fathoms in 1953 and was already dive capable at 100m thanks to the Oyster case (the FF was capable of a little less, at 91m). Rolex was already planning for deeper depths, sending the Deep Sea N°1 below 3000m as a proof of concept the same year as the FF release. It was months (not a year) after the release of the FF and Turnographe that Rolex may have adopted the idea of a unidirectional bezel from Blancpain. Both the Turnographe and Deep Sea N°1 featured the Submariner DNA, including the circular lume plots, rectangles at 3,6,9, and triangle at 12- even Watchfinder themselves alluded to all of this this some time ago.

[@AshSrinivas]

You should narrate audiobooks for Audible and advertise it to watch nerds. After watching hundreds of Watchfinder & Co. videos, most of us will end up buying audiobooks we don't even care to "read" as a Pavlovian response, lol.

[@georgemagdaleno]

The new 'Starbucks' Rolex Submariner is Tiny. I was surprised how small it was on my coworkers wrist. That's the watch that really disappointed me.

[@Weakeyedominant]

What size is their wrist 8 inches?

[@georgemagdaleno]

@@Weakeyedominant Don’t know but we are all 6 feet tall and in shape.

[@garyboyle695]

Rolex watches are well known to be smaller than stated.

[@EdwardViaTomato]

Blancpain 50F > Sub Zenith (basically any) > Daytona

[@michaelriera6277]

The Navi is such a cool watch.

[@RevScott]

Which of your novels should I read first?

[@tracywilkinson1820]

When i was in piloting school, we had E6B flight computers, a two sided rotating dial slide rule. Took a while to learn to use it and I only used the functions I needed to for my specific requirements. It was and is an impressive piece of kit, with fuel and oil consumption functions, velocity conversions, density altitude functions as well as a host of other calculations needed for flight planning. The reverse was the wind side which we used to calculate wind, course and heading data. All this changed in the mid 90’s with the introduction of the digital flight computer and its acceptance by the FAA for use on the pilot exam. I bought one that day, I think I cost me $110, and I still have it and it works brilliantly. The newer versions are far more impressive w graphics and even more cool functions. But yes the Breitling was based on the E6B circular slide rule.

[@grozwano]

Now in big cities like Paris. We don’t even wear our rolexes anymore because of theft

[@jamesherrington5606]

I find the AP Royal Oak hideous

[@rocketdyneF1]

The Moonswatch. I got one in Florence and when I wore it for the first time I thought “wow this is even more crap than I thought”.

[@maverick4177]

Pretty much a list of watches i own or will own 😂 I wouldn’t be disappointed with any of them

[@birdytiger]

I have heard the stories about James Cameron biting the blades off yachts engines.

[@georgecupac1202]

What watch disappointed me ? Non of them, I don't own any of those watches, so I can't be disappointed.

[@georgemoscahlades7473]

Solid video. We’ll done.

[@Tobi_Jones]

has the apple watch outsold the Casio F91W ??

[@jjlad5037]

I think The Sub is a great homage watch.

[@alwayspooh1588]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thegorn]

It's true. It homages its earlier iterations

[@garyboyle695]

​@@thegornno it homages the blancpain.

[@marcorenato1814]

Can’t believe you went after all my heroes 😅 apart from the iwatch that is

[@mikeuk4130]

Biggest disappointment? Finding out that my Dad called his H Samuel "Everite" watch his "H Samuel Neverite" - because it never was right! I had so looked forward to having the perfect watch one day. Ah, well, at least I now have a Speedy.

[@alexandrerojkov9429]

Every one gets his own stuff, but you will work very hard to beat old good Speedy. IMHO this where Rolex rests 🙂

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Didn’t Seiko get a Watch in space too. ?

[@pieterjlansbergen6988]

Yes. The 6139 Chronograph nicknamed Pogue. Without so much fanfare.

[@exploretheinternet2334]

Watching this video and learning the actual truth is like, learning about your favorite actor being a jerk in real life. Kinda sad 😢

[@jamesk9321]

Thankfully not Keanu though.

[@turbyoulance]

I agree TAG Monaco is junk , Apple is also rubbish.

[@porscheguy5848]

Huge miss on the Speedmaster comment. Find another reason for it to disappoint you, but it can’t be the NASA part

[@bullnose01]

The first watch was an apple watch -- the 1505 Pomander.

[@bmunson4920]

Yeah…the iPhone doesn’t elevate the watch category, it just downgrades the mobile phone experience….

[@InsanelyGhostly]

No watch has a better story than the Speedy MoonWatch, Period.

[@gordtulk]

Notable that boring equates with old traditional watches in the first three examples. Trading off of laurels earned fifty or more years ago is boring whether your a watch, an uncle or a pin-up girl back in the day.