Idaho Student Murders Suspect Took Classes Taught By Famed Serial Killer Expert

Bryan Kohberger, the 28-year-old man accused of murdering four University of Idaho students, was working on a Ph.D. at Washington State University. Prior to his enrollment at WSU, Kohberger graduated from DeSales University in June where he earned a Master's degree and took classes taught by forensic psychologist Dr. Katherine Ramsland, a serial killer expert. The Law&Crime Network's Angenette Levy has the latest on this revelation, what a former classmate said about Kohberger and what Dr. Ramsland told the Coptales & Cocktails podcast about her work and the class she teaches on serial killers.
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[@truepatriots3860]

Thanks for the video

[@australia3940]

Hello

[@jtjones4081]

I doubt these were his 1st kills. Better check unsolved murders in La Salle area. Surrounded by other Masters and Phd criminologists yet no one detected him.

[@australia3940]

@@jtjones4081 I let 7NEWS nkow

[@waynemasters8673]

Thanks for details.

[@tahliel]

He didn't become a killer because he studied criminology. He studied criminology because he wanted to kill

[@keishaa52972]

Exactly

[@dianegreen1937]

Failed big time!

[@patricialear8001]

Or learn how not to kill.

[@arturogarcia6033]

Great point

[@lilys7431]

Completely agree.

[@bonniegeppert3912]

Oh man the irony of her teaching him is not lost on me. This case gets more terrifying the more we learn about it.

[@kv2723]

It's like a case straight out of Criminal Minds - unreal.

[@cuttlefishagain]

@@kv2723 I thought, that, too. This seems like it'd be on Criminal Minds lol

[@Crazydanelady3]

Continuously waiting for the next shoe to drop. Hopefully since his dad was with him on the way back to PA he didn’t have more victims.

[@leonaleone598]

@@Crazydanelady3 I haven’t heard that yet!

[@jess_jeff7549]

@@kv2723 I believe Bryan wanted it that way. I almost feel he was conducting his own case study. With his intelligence and ego, I see him playing mind games with investigators and the courts. Turning this into his own TV show. The show Mind Hunters, is what comes to mind for me. The killings and lack of info already seemed to be the perfect documentary. Now exploring the "why" is what he wants to be known for.

[@lukasjoubert7078]

A few years ago a guy knocked on my door and when I opened he stood there with a few dvd's in his hand and said he was selling dvd's, as I looked at the dvd's in his hand he didnt present the dvd's to me he just held it in his hands and tried to look over my shoulder then stared at me in a way that was intimidating and blank and he didnt say anything more, I can remember it was a very awkward moment and I just said calmly that im not interested and went to rest, I was tired because I was working shifts, and I was still single and stayed alone. A few hours later I heard a loud band on that same door, when I went closer I could here more than one person outside, I think they tried to kick down the door to enter my flat without drawing attention but they failed. A few years later I saw on the news in the town I lived krugersdorp that the police arrested people involved in killing 11 people over 4years and I immediatly recognised one of them as the one that was at my door "selling" dvd's. That sent chills down my spine when I realised what could have happend to me.

[@joeb3008]

Almost everyone has a hard luck story but they don’t kill anyone . These guys are just pieces of crap no excuses

[@KatharinaK117]

AMEN!

[@dougritter429]

The parents of the 4 dead students should be allowed to stone the killer to death.

[@jessyncust76]

The job of a profiler is to get into the mind of a serial killer and their life to understand why ..we always wanna know why they do it but don't accept the answer cause not all of us turn out to be serial killers and don't comprehend !! But at the end of the day that's how they figure out who is the killer

[@user-wu1gm8xz9u]

A bad backstory and upbringing has nothing to do with it, their mind is sick so it’s their brain that’s the problem and that is so different from everyone else’s. Stop acting like you know everything

[@ivanboesky1520]

Thanks Captain Obvious’! 😀😀

[@peggyking9543]

You can understand why the police and prosecutor are going strictly by the book. They know who or what they are up against. Please don't ever let him out of custody.

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely the elephant in the room is the question has he murdered before an crime expert said recently he thinks he has

[@murielnelson6928]

How?like how can he be sent out!?

[@mariamail0303]

Oh wow that is exactly right the FBI the boys in cowboy hats and winter attire they meant business while the parents and public called them cowards.

[@mariamail0303]

They knew he was educated and would have many allibis or ways to get around the system and he is still talking about being eager to be exonerated.

[@jamesfreeman2258]

Ditto

[@timewoundsallheels4ever]

Serial killers are NOT “gentlemen”

[@susanmaguire]

It makes me batshit crazy when horrible men are called gentlemen. Is it supposed to sound elegant or something? I left a similar comment earlier.

[@kathryntitus9647]

Right? I get so annoyed when people use the term gentleman in situations where it's clearly not appropriate. Do most people even understand what the term gentleman means?

[@maryricketts7337]

News media try to be too PC. The woke left are cancelling disparaging words.

[@ow3wells]

@@Pamledger478 Ted Bundy must have been charming, numerous women followed him.

[@Njbear7453]

@@Pamledger478 Sad thing is most females fall for it , so how can a female protect themself ? It’s almost impossible in today’s society

[@nordgrinder6119]

Her favorite thing is talking to murderous pathological liars to learn from them about their past. SMH...

[@casperinsight3524]

Dangerous offenders who think they are above the law need to be reprimanded behind bars with no chance of a quick exit.

[@spezia8066]

I wish he'd just do himself in but I doubt if he's brave enough. Meanwhile the fact that he's still breathing is causing pain. Sending deep condolences to the families and friends of the victims.

[@KatharinaK117]

@@garrettshook7634 something is strange, ..yep. But you dont find everything online! We ain't in full watch, still...lmao! And his SM was deleted, everything. At least, thts, what they telling us!

[@cory1800]

@Garrett Shook I heard the car was listed under an LLC in jus uncles business….? Could be a rumor….

[@lisatrevino8877]

I hope they seek death penalty

[@deborah3912]

she kind of rolls her eyes when evil is brought up, like what an uneducated idea. disheartening to say the least

[@tele68]

She's a psychologist, so she views violent actions as outcomes of dysfunctional thought processes.

[@wqv5423ln]

She basicly denies evil. These are the people teaching our students?? Ask the parents of these students if they believe in evil?!

[@hypsyzygy506]

'Evil' isn't clearly defined, so it really is useless. Ask a thousand people what 'evil' is and you'll get more than a thousand answers ranging from pornography to lotteries, alcohol to evangelicals, broccoli to cockroaches, pop music to DeSantis.

[@TheJbsportstech]

Evil is a religious term that suggests the soul and spirit of a person is bad. She is a scientist and they don’t deal with spirts and magic people they deal with facts and people may have mental disorders, logically and scientifically we don’t say people are just evil

[@KatharinaK117]

AMEN!!! ➕

[@Njbear7453]

This just shows that majority of people truly are not who you THINK they are

[@petep5207]

They are....they'll just change their gender and pronouns next week.

[@numbria]

DTA Don't Trust Anyone. I absolutely trust no one.

[@Spills51]

Why?

[@Njbear7453]

@@numbria now I truly don’t trust anyone

[@patrickday4206]

@@numbria okay misanthrope tracy

[@jasonx-ray3921]

They guy argued/challenged Ramsland in class? That's a killer's ego right there.

[@blackicex1622]

The scariest thing is, imagine if this guy had graduated and was able to get on the force.

[@tommurphy4307]

like 'magnum force'?

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

Imagine how many did… the smarter ones…. That is what terrifies me. We really need to change things

[@zeerohour8129]

It's like having Bipolar disorder and getting a psych degree. Its obvious they were trying to understand themselves and the disease. However, I think this one is different. Master's in Murder?

[@marshadavies8440]

Another Green river killer?

[@acanadianfarmgirl2667]

@Hanííbą́ą́z ...no, that was a masters. He is/was in a PhD program at the time of this crime.

[@jeanfrost5452]

There is NO better word to describe them than evil.

[@Mila-er6ms]

🎯🎯🎯

[@angelapietras1235]

I agree

[@shaun5047]

I think people are missing the point. They’re trying to understand serial killers and what makes them tick, this is to prevent more victims. “Evil” is a term that can be used for many killers not just serial killers. Serial killers seem to have a different brain, almost subhuman. The more we know about them the better. I remember reading that the public was initially highly against the FBI studying them. Fortunately they pushed through and in turn all of the info learned has helped profiled and catch many serial killers,

[@rickbrenner6079]

Exactly. Pure evil. Religious or not religious. Born with brain disorder or not born with brain disorder.

[@KatharinaK117]

Exactly!!!

[@CC12398]

Honestly I'm not surprised a serial killer or a killer would take classes. Many people go to college for what they're most interested in

[@CC12398]

@@outoutoutoutout1027 I hate to think what his first choice was..

[@ZooomaCW]

I don't think it's that common. I don't believe most serial killers have a masters degree and were going for a Phd. Of course there can always be an exception to the rule and this could very well be the only one.

[@apextroll]

Serial killer school makes sense. I'd be interested in her thoughts at the time of her student.

[@apextroll]

@E Boston Not now.

[@jessicajones3379]

@@eboston7591no only because he’s behind bars. I believe he would definitely kill again if he got the chance

[@CR-yn5sy]

It is crazy how he was surrounded by "Experts" in the field including his own sister, and nobody thought he fitted the bill, there must have been red flags and yet they all seem shocked and surprised. How can this be??

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

Hindsight is 20/20. If you're not looking for it, how would you generally see it.

[@quickchris10]

They are probably fake surprised that he fit the bill. `BTW, being `fitted'' is what happens at a fitting for a suit or a dress.

[@ka82nz]

He probably saw Katherine as a 'mother' figure, cos she's one of the few people to find serial killers intriguing, misunderstood, and 'fascinating', she refuses to call serial killers 'evil', and this lack of judgement/acknowledgement of how interesting she finds them possibly made her an appealing person to be around for someone like Bryan who craves acknowledgement of how 'smart and special' he thinks he is. He seemed to crave her attention, based on how vocal and talkative he is said to have been in her classes, even interrupting her according to classmates. Just a thought, I could be wrong

[@antnmu]

I wonder if she will eventually talk more about how he acted and his behavior in class, as well as comments he may have made. That must be scary finding out you were teaching a killer.

[@nadia4999]

She probably recognized the signs from his writing.

[@hypsyzygy506]

He might not have been a killer when she was teaching him.

[@tommurphy4307]

you mean becuz because maybe you should have charged more??

[@antnmu]

@@hypsyzygy506 Yeah, but surely he was thinking about killing / wanting to do it.

[@lililustre2826]

He must be just acting like anyone of us. But his brain thought differently. Like ted bundy he was so charming many women thought he was a pure gentleman

[@VerifiedVegan]

Everyone calling him a “criminal genius”? Well a genius wouldn’t drive “his” car around/out of the crime scene. That was his mistake and not smart.

[@Njbear7453]

He literally could’ve just sat and waited in the house for a few hours but instead he got right out and dodged ! And that’s what got him caught driving past the gas station

[@user-zm9jo5ce3b]

Maybe he wanted to be caught

[@VerifiedVegan]

@@user-zm9jo5ce3b He immediately after arrest said ( not verified by police yet) “was anyone else arrested” which to me is him immediately setting himself up for a defense. Doesn’t sound like someone that wants to be caught. We shall see in days to come I guess.

[@user-zm9jo5ce3b]

@ericarezende4721 I think until its been said by the police we'll not know what was said. Lots of things have been said by others. I personally think someone who knew more about the way the police handled things and didn't want to be found wouldn't have left any clues around. Time will tell when more is released about it

[@Njbear7453]

@Cl1nton Body count they didn’t wake up til the next morning

[@LillianArch]

His goal was to know everything needed to murder and get away with it. This isn’t a random arrest. They have evidence. He’s not a serial killer but may well been on his way to becoming one. What a valuable teacher and it’s interesting how he treated her. It fits with his ego regarding his knowing more about all this than anyone.

[@stevenmurray7014]

Yes, he was on his way to becoming a serial killer and was fascinated by it. Being educated in criminology and serial killings gave him a head start thinking he had the knowledge and nohow for the game and may never get caught. He was wrong. I honestly believe he was a serial killer in the making!

[@arleatataylor382]

@@stevenmurray7014 exactly

[@blueyes8682]

I willing to bet, he has killed others

[@cindyfinlayson4197]

Well he does ha ha

[@CR-yn5sy]

AND she is a woman

[@loralee792]

This is really disturbing she can't wait to study him. This guy has planned it all out.. He knows the difference between right and wrong he doesn't care lady!

[@KatharinaK117]

AMEN!

[@1CountryCinderella]

WOW ..All that experience and she didn't even know she had one in her own class!

[@theTruthSeekerishere]

It's not like she had a personal relationship with him

[@silentIypraying]

Teachers and professors dont have close relationships with their students... Im a college student and my professor doesn't even know me

[@jamesw4445]

@E Boston How do you know. This might not be his first kills.

[@keithangstadt4950]

So she's supposed to be able to pick out a potential serial killer by teaching a class? I believe she's a psychology professor, not a magician

[@HandsomeJ]

Right…

[@metipsm]

She says serial killers may be born that way. This excuse should never be used to escape punishment. I fear this will eventually happen, the way psychologist use mental illness to get murderers out of jail.

[@KissesFromCanada]

Her point in saying ‘born this way’ is that no one can change them. He came hard wired wrong, just the way pedophiles are. No mount of therapy will fix them.

[@rebeccabarr2790]

100% - that really rubbed me wrong. There are consequences for actions - you can't blame how you were born for brutally robbing 4 beautiful souls of their lives.

[@petep5207]

@@rebeccabarr2790 Females use worse, more flimsy excuses for their evil...so there's that

[@antnmu]

I feel like serial killers may have a genetic trait that is awakened from trauma. But to say they're just born that way doesn't seem right and most definitely shouldn't be used as an excuse. I agree. No matter what caused someone to think / be that way, they made the decisions they made and even if they are mentally ill, they shouldn't be off the hook.

[@ZooomaCW]

Not an excuse, it's an explanation and of course they should still be punished.

[@stars_for_night_lights]

You can live with someone for YEARS and never KNOW them...

[@Reevay762]

Yes so true

[@suzanestrada881]

True... Golden State Killer in Calif was married to a Judge And their daughter was an ATTY or DA. .THOUGH HE married and had daughter after his spree supposedly.

[@Wonderpattypatty]

Thanks for yet another wonderful video!

[@RyanTaylor1223]

Everyone knows right from wrong! Don't need an education to understand that. Some people are just evil.

[@KatharinaK117]

Right. Except the ppl, who are raised by evil ppl and are surrounded by them. How should they know anything else but evil?

[@apextroll]

@@KatharinaK117 Because, "being evil" is not the motivation. It is a simplistic understanding of the matter.

[@elizabethbarajas8614]

Some people are mentally Ill. Sorry to break it to you.

[@mashakalinkina7207]

Psychopaths are not mentally ill.

[@annaservetas214]

This is beyond EVIL

[@starrlara2599]

🙏 for the girls and Ethan, their families, their loved ones, and the suspect’s loved ones.

[@Conash191]

My daughter took classes included this class she graduated with him. She said that he did intrude on the teacher. He also was arrested about 2 hrs from where I live the whole thing is so sad.

[@trainingmansbestfriend]

i go to school far too close to monroe county 😅 i cannot imagine the trauma of these families and what the victims went through. i literally can’t imagine dying that way. it’s horrifying

[@AneudiD78]

Have students taken preventative measures to stay safe? More surveillance cameras around or near campus?

[@kathyr.8135]

I cannot understand how you could go up to a sleeping person and kill then . It makes me shudder . Love is the answer to all our problems and God

[@ArtTheSinger]

It’s called Karma

[@doloresm7396]

I'm sure the same place as my daughter. Trust no one, but trust your gut. The advice I gave my daughter. So far, so good.

[@jesses5463]

@@kathyr.8135 But what if God is dead?

[@mindhunter00789]

this has to be the first killer that got a degree in serial killers

[@larrybud]

Of course psychopaths process things differently, but everybody has free will. Let's not absolve them of their behavior.

[@Spills51]

Why??? Makes no difference as long as justice is handed over and the public is kept safe...Im perfectly fine if he was compelled or however you or anyone else wants to look at it....just as long as he is properly caged and people are not in danger now. Not like thinking he wasnt under complete control means he got away with anything....results the same.

[@ZooomaCW]

@Lux Aeterna 👍

[@mbb--]

She thinks evil is some quaint primitive notion, so I doubt she believes in free will

[@larrybud]

@Lux Aeterna No, it's excuse making in the making. We already see it now, excusing bad behavior because of this syndrome, diagnosis, or disease, renaming terms to make them sound more benign, etc. If you haven't noticed that that's happening, then you're not paying attention.

[@larrybud]

@@Spills51 Because absolution of behavior means society has no objective standards of behavior. I mean, I know we're well on our way of an everything-goes society, but not if I have anything to say about it.

[@AndiMarie]

Thank you for your excellent coverafe, @Angenette Levy Happy New Year!

[@vanessaduran275]

He’s giving Tom Riddle energy

[@Ilayshaa]

Yesss

[@crazycarlsadventures5983]

I AM LORD VOLDEMORT

[@sbarmiueenl]

2:04 "Class on suicidology" [Starts laughing]. That must be a very funny class.

[@KatharinaK117]

I found tht more than ODD! Maybe someone should dive into her own 🧠...for real. Whts there to laugh about? Almost cynical? She denies evil. Interesting. And tht channel obviously finds tht laughable, too? Interesting for sure! 👎!

[@elizabethbarajas8614]

Her major is so blatantly different than a doctor or a teacher. It’s an unusual thing to teach. That’s probably why she laughed. That’s why I laughed haha! I also have an intrigue towards the the darker sides of things and not everyone understands that.

[@jillsy2815]

She was creepy

[@doloreschansey9556]

That was called a nervous laugh. She most likely realized the irony of talking about it and that one of her past students is being charged with murder and would fit right in with some of the people she talked about.

[@KatharinaK117]

@@doloreschansey9556 this is an old interview I guess!!

[@grammydayao7581]

I'm sure he made his parents feel like leaving the country , or maybe the world , what a sicko .

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

If people could detect that a serial killer was pure evil, they would likely not become a successful serial killer in the first place.

[@arielsea9087]

She certainly didn’t detect him with her “expertise”.

[@jamesfreeman2258]

You are wrong. Evilness comes in deception and lies..."sin has many handles, but the one that fits them all is the lie". in scripture the devil deceives, and rides on a beautiful horse and appears in light. He will never come in the true identity that he is,, which is filth itself. Evilness comes with 1/2 truths and at times in glitter.. One must look at the works of anyone one suspects of lying. Does the person produce fruit or weeds?

[@smedia6534]

I honestly didn't think of evil being a religious view instead of a scientific view until she said it which is interesting.I think your point is right that we can't always detect it in killers.

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

@@jamesfreeman2258 Or does the person steal the fruit of the work of others, then lie to cover it up?

[@grojawalip1683]

He isn't a serial killer

[@yesyourang2224]

And she couldn’t figure out he was one? The rest of us have no hope if the experts have no idea

[@brandonhinrichs4393]

How can she figure out he was a murderer when he wasn't a murderer until he murdered lol

[@massilez6720]

Clever

[@queengoblin]

Maybe she suspected or had intuition. But you can't say that and keep your credibility. You can't arrest people or charge them based on intuition. So we'll never know. Everyone can "sense" psychopaths to different degrees. But "sensing" is not a good reason to prosecute. "Senses" can be tampered with by trauma and faulty perceptions and beliefs. But intuition unfiltered never lies.

[@Hunterbenx]

Dumbest comment. Congrats.

[@PhotoStudio96]

@@brandonhinrichs4393 wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t his first time, maybe a smaller kill. 1 person, an animal… something of that nature

[@juliebaxter9800]

I have a problem with this woman!! Evil is evil! These killers are evil

[@E.z.b.f]

I agree, evil is very real and if she can't see it I wouldn't listen to anything she says

[@dianayount2122]

it is not a clinical term. Educated, likes trends, statistics, etc.

[@luiscastillo451]

She's taking advantage for the attention of course she don't care what happen to those students

[@crashnebula7]

She gives off snotty/rude professor type vibes where students end up feeling stuck in a class and fail to truly enjoy it

[@laurennnelizabethhh]

@@luiscastillo451 the interview with her was conducted earlier in 2022..not recently

[@jefferyrightmire9520]

What frightens me is the fact there are many taking these courses. Many of them also think they are superior, over the rest of us. We have some of them in our government.

[@shaun5047]

That’s a huge generalization. It’s important knowledge, like any kind of knowledge it can be used to help or harm. A lot of those courses have helped armed people with important knowledge used to profile and catch serial killers.

[@KatharinaK117]

AMEN!

[@fredmartin328]

Like kamala nancy joe...

[@tommyriam8320]

Those are called Demonrat socialists, elitist leftists, and RINOS

[@susand9296]

Don't be frightened. They enjoy it.

[@laithstafford9555]

I'm not religious but evil definitely exists. Is it a mental illness? Sure, that's fine. But her implying that the word "evil" is misplaced is just absolute garbage semantics.

[@arielsea9087]

It’s a current trend.

[@notimetodienttd1115]

Evil exists. Evil thought, mind, intention, act, all are influenced by the devil, invincible satan that never sleeps or rests ever and 24hours working to lead human astray by whispering into human heart & mind to commit sins and evil act. But that does not absolve one from their crime/sin because humans are supposed to follow the rules & guidance that was relayed by the Messengers that had been sent to every corner of the world since the beginning of mankind. - Peace 💛

[@michellecarvajal4088]

I can imagine she’s going over some of the details from her own interactions with this guy. It will be interesting what she brings to the surface & most importantly… will she be interviewing him if indeed he’s found guilty. Either way, this case has thrusted him into the limelight. Guilty or innocent, his and his family’s lives will be a mess. I sincerely hope LE did get their man. Those unfortunate parents deserve justice to be served.

[@truffles2721]

She has too much sympathy for killers.

[@rickcooley837]

She's worked around them too long

[@Njbear7453]

Hearing her talk it’s almost like she’s become “numb”.

[@brendahedden2683]

Phycopaths are Narrissicit and manipulative. Wolfs 🐺 in sheep 🐑 clothing. Nil of any emotion example...Chris Watts. They could be any one around us.

[@lanaleigh3112]

…sure does

[@dowwow9122]

I have always had a problem with people trying to explain evil or serial killers by saying there is something wrong/different about their brains. Does it matter what is the reason for the evil? We call it evil/monsterous etc because it is. Do I care what is the reason 3 daughters and a son were taken away? Absolutely not! Even if there is something different in his brain, he managed to get to the age of 28 before killing so he could continue living the way he lived until that point. He made the choice and he has to pay for it simple.

[@KatharinaK117]

AMEN!

[@wintercame]

The reason for this kind of extreme antisocial behavior is important to understand if we wish to prevent it. As a society I would think we would prefer to prevent it if possible. Otherwise we are left with nothing but to seek punishment for "evilness" after the fact.

[@helenclayton8259]

I agree with you however someone does need to try to understand these EVIL people incase there is any way it can be prevented. I don’t agree with this women saying she has an issue with the word evil because there is no other word for it. no matter what conclusion doctors come to, they still must be taken out of society and they do deserve to live the consequences of their actions! Even if it is a brain disorder. If they are brought up to know right from wrong then they know right from wrong!

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

Yes.. because if it's a disorder you can learn how to diagnose it early and potentially change or cure it before anyone becomes a victim. Unless you can predict the future. Can you predict the future? No where does that diagnosis resolve a person from accountability and or punishment. Nor did anyone claim such nonsense.

[@bbk9787]

“It chose me more than I chose it” investigate that woman immediately!!!!

[@zeerohour8129]

Why? Whatever reason she has for her chosen profession doesn't mean there is something wrong with her. She could have had a family member who was a victim of a serial or spree killer and she is trying to understand it. That's NORMAL behavior. In that context, it found her.

[@FleagleSangria]

An expert, yet she didnt recognize she had a psychopath sitting in her class talking to her 🙄👌🏻

[@rickcooley837]

If someone tries to convince you evil doesn't exist....ignore them and run!

[@Calimax91]

It’s not about your feelings but facts. In a clinical context.

[@rickcooley837]

@@Calimax91 exactly, evil does exist...fact

[@Spills51]

nonsense

[@Thundersnowy]

😶‍🌫️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I love this person! Thank you for saying that! That's what I really wanted to say instead I said some long drawn out thing but meant the same thing.

[@viciousdope66]

She is a Psychologist. She has to be objective about things. And from what I gather, she seems quite likely to be an Atheist (like myself). Are weasels evil? What about a lion? They may kill indiscriminately and have no feelings, but we don’t typically assign them descriptions such as “evil.” She’s being similarly objective, just toward a person.

[@matw1x]

The suspect was right about knowing more than the professor about serial killers.

[@timewa851]

mmm. taking out four sleepy drunk college kids ain't 'serial killing' no matter how much he would want it to be. He seems stifled in some way, & finally acted out in a semi-sad fashion. Pathetic killer is a better fit. Maybe he just wants to be known, for something ?

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@timewa851 erm okay. Massacring for 4 people at a time is easy work right? Lmao

[@cnitevedi4832]

@@timewa851 dude.. murder is a murder. those of us who haven't mudered will never know what it's like.

[@zemabar]

@@cnitevedi4832 What???

[@cnitevedi4832]

@@zemabar ok...I'm reading my previous comment & i guess i must've been on something when writing it

[@lorainejerrells7764]

Evil is evil. No matter how you try to explain it.

[@7_earths]

The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing the World he Didn’t Exist

[@peace-a]

Wow! He was trying to get highly educated on how to get away with murder. He did for 40 something days. Thank God they got him.

[@brucewilson1958]

I am a 68 year old American man. I watch a lot of true crime. I am not a killer. But, watching so much True Crime I think about the mistakes Killers make that get them caught. 1. Never drive your own car or any vehicle that could be traced back to you. 2. Never leave your DNA at the scene of the crime. The Moscow Killer did both and that is odd to me.

[@px4sd477]

Everyone thinks they will never be caught. Most are wrong.

[@nychris2258]

He wants credit. I bet he starts talking and confesses pretty quickly. I dont think hes going to deny it. I dont see this guy in court claiming he didnt do it.

[@rubiirae]

When you're killing 4 grown adults where a few happened to fought back, it's hard not to leave any trace of DNA even if you're a forensic expert

[@stephanea5364]

You're not a killer? Are you sure?

[@cebuanostud]

great tips, if ever!.....I mean ever, ever, ever....yeknow the rest. 😂

[@Nathann556]

You can see where he picked up the glorification of murder. This lady is in awe and admiration over these monsters

[@michaelwoods2031]

Very interesting thank you

[@joralemonvirgincreche]

She's smart not to talk about him publicly. She may be called as a witness and doesn't want to prejudice the case against him.

[@lanaleigh3112]

I doubt she has much knowledge on this subject, she is book bound not hands on. A criminal would walk circles around her.

[@joralemonvirgincreche]

@@lanaleigh3112 She might be called as a witness because she had personal knowledge and acquaintance with Kohberger. He was in her class and reportedly often interrupted her.

[@photina78]

It's evil. M. Scott Peck, MD, was a Psychiatrist who discovered that a few of his patients didn't fit the diagnostic criteria for mental illness and he realized they really were evil. He was surprised because he wasn't a Christian, at that time, and it was a challenge for him to accept the fact that evil is real. He wrote a book about it, "People of The Lie: Hope for Healing Human Evil." A few years later he wrote the sequel, "Glimpses of The Devil," and by that time he'd become a Christian so he had spiritual insight into evil people. Both book are excellent!

[@dragonsky799]

🙄

[@trinade3732]

Book deals are all about the money no matter the subject. He had a meal on you.

[@KatharinaK117]

Praise the Lord, he became a Christian! 🙏 and the 33rd like from me for your comment!

[@photina78]

@@KatharinaK117 Thank you so much! 🙏

[@dextermoore278]

Evil 😈 is real. I am a Christian but I don't think saying someone is EVIL has anything to do with Religion. Good and Evil exists.

[@CapeRN]

So much for her intuition

[@QueerdoLoc]

She’s obviously a narcissist who thought she knew more about serial killers than an actual serial killer. She should’ve listened to his expertise on the subject

[@keithangstadt4950]

How would she know anything about the guy by being his college professor?

[@zeerohour8129]

Again, how is she responsible for a student's FUTURE behavior? The way you keep digging on her makes you sound like a woman hater.

[@rickcooley837]

This woman is actually dangerous in a crazy sort of way!

[@antnmu]

Classes like what she teaches are dangerous for those who want to kill, but so is the internet. They could easily learn the things she teaches by searching it up. The woman herself is not dangerous. Just because she is interested in crime doesn't mean she is.

[@HandsomeJ]

She sure is 👍

[@Onel756]

How can you not call some of these monsters evil ?

[@kv2723]

So many people deny the spiritual aspect of our existence. We are spirit beings and there is a spirit world all around us. Demonic influence is a real thing.

[@KatharinaK117]

AMEN, dear!

[@andrealmoseley6575]

If you admit to evil then it requires the opposite and people don't want to admit there is a force of good, higher power, moral compassion, absolute truth, God because that requires accountability to something outside if them.

[@leapinlizard9487]

@@andrealmoseley6575 You are absolutely right Andrea. She has no belief in God.

[@DanielRodriguez-zi9qe]

@@andrealmoseley6575 look science is based on hard evidence not personal beliefs. and beside your god is a false god and my god Ahura Mazda is the true God

[@livestrong2836]

I hope this new year brings joy and peace

[@sweetpeasandyarrowaranchdi8327]

Not only did he destroy these poor families, but he's been going to school forever. His parents will be left with all the debt and shame, while he lays around and reads in prison.

[@DeepSeas..]

Unfortunately, he probably does know more than she does about the mind of a serial killer considering how he is one.

[@k20z3keith7]

@@eboston7591 Yes, technically a mass murderer.

[@jamesfournier6114]

I wonder if there are cold cases out there that Bryan has committed in the past. Killing these 4 people like that I am sure we will see that he has done this before and was not caught. Glad he is in custody and also glad that Idaho is a Death Penalty State.

[@rockybullwinkle]

I watch a video about a stabbing of a couple that got away but haven’t been able to find it. There is also a dog in the area that was skinned in the area with no arrest. Of course this could be gossip since I haven’t found anything else on these two things

[@jadejj7948]

I have a feeling this wasn't his first time.. I agree with you that he may have something to do with other cold cases! No doubt about it 👌

[@Njbear7453]

This dude has killed before, he’s a sicko

[@teddyjackson1902]

I find it difficult to believe that he brutally butchered four people on his first outing.

[@truepatriots3860]

Hope he comes clean with all his crimes .

[@fatima546]

The fascination of people for killers is getting out of control

[@ryanmichelle6624]

This whole story is absolutely crazy already. He is either going to not say a word or he is going to lay it all out.. I hope their families get answers they deserve.

[@PPOPontheRice]

Calling those serial killers a gentlemen is a biggggg no.

[@mikeellis4345]

I’m pretty sure this serial killer expert is going to be asked why she missed spotting an evil man right under her nose .. her own student. Expert indeed.

[@ashleyelizabeth8335]

Very shallow interpretation.

[@wqv5423ln]

Because she denies evil & therefore sin

[@evehalliday9928]

It's silly to think any expert can spot a would-be killer in a classroom.

[@KatharinaK117]

🤣👍exactly....expert..lol.

[@KatharinaK117]

@@wqv5423ln and tht alone is ridiculous to a point, thts even comical. Lmao. She ain't an expert in anything. Her theories are JUST theories.

[@usakiwi1986]

will any of these professors worry that they may unintentionally be teaching a potential killer to actually kill?

[@darlinspaces]

When I applied for my MA program which was not so easy to get into, they expect you to explain your goals and your experiences so in many ways you are being weaned out from immature/unfit students. Usually after that point, they won't worry about being unfit.

[@deborahmulkey1627]

How can anyone possibly hold them responsible for this. Ridiculous.

[@johnwright7895]

No.They are making good money out of mayhem.

[@arielsea9087]

@@darlinspaces They want to delve deeply into warped minds and come out unscathed. Of course with a boatload of money and fame.

[@jeanlg4087]

Happy New Yeard 2023 Law&Crime Network

[@DaniMaeAdventures]

I can’t wait to hear what she has to say once she’s able to and if she wants to say something about Bryan!!!

[@markusgarcia4136]

And she could not detect a serial killer in her class?

[@EoffZooStaff]

I would imagine for the time being that she has been told not do to interviews in case she is called during trial.

[@gnap525]

Apparently the sister is ; maybe the mother having codependent personalities by helping him hide is what I've heard. Advertising for people to act out violent circumstances of a murder suggests to me would give me pause in regard to that it even putting on the internet. He exhibits homicidal curiosity that he later murders these young people. The emotional harm he caused for us if it is him is to ask why? its atrocious on every level & maybe those around that behavior should have called it out to law enforcement....maybe could have caught him before he acted who knows

[@squalewally7297]

He thought he was too smart to get caught. Turns out he wasn’t too bright. Who knows what else he’s done.

[@naomisims7230]

Seems to be a trait of Bryan's to talk over & above others. One friend said Bryan is very intelligent, very verbose, & driven to make others understand he was the most informed person in the room (not his exact words, only my interpretation).

[@rickcooley837]

Exactly like Ted Bundy

[@RouxsTube]

@@rickcooley837 exactly what I was thinking....

[@Zenigundam]

If I listened to the KZbin detectives, I would have believed he was an asocial incel who was rejected by one of the blonde girls and vowed he'd have his revenge against all the Chads and Stacys.

[@Tina-si1gz]

My daughter told me they believe he targeted Kaylee and her dad said their paths had crossed at least once. He believes she may have dismissed his advances.

[@stay_rosey1753]

I’ve heard multiple people who knew him from different schools speak of how he would talk over/disrespect women teachers.

[@ashleyallen7138]

What a creepy teacher. She had an adverse reaction to the word evil and sounded defensive of the EVIL psychopaths.

[@totallydomestic433]

If this woman doesn’t believe in evil i would not waste my time taking her classes.

[@1Blantdaddy]

Everyone signing up for a serial killer class in College needs to at least be on a watch list and investigated 😂

[@Njbear7453]

From here on out

[@BlueBARv5]

We also need professional Tarot Card readers in Law enforcement.. Because that tiktoker was really close on her readings.

[@ZooomaCW]

Slippery slope. Someone makes a comment to a friend: "I love documentaries about serial killers." Should that friend call 911 and give them a statement so the person can also be on a watch list? Come on. Your comment isn't very bright because probably 99.9999999% of people who take those classes take them so they can be on the side working to catch people who commit heinous crimes.

[@Pllm30]

You can't do that because now you are stereotyping. That's no different from me saying that because Kohberger did this, I need to now watch every tall brunette square faced guy I come across because he might kill me. That would be unethical. You can't put anyone on a "watch list" until you have enough evidence otherwise you would be stalking the person, which is a crime in and of itself.

[@klassky17kingklassky81]

@@BlueBARv5 lmao

[@kelliethommes7426]

Now the suspect will find out he is not the only the smart guy around.There's always someone smarter!

[@Sarah-yj6lf]

I was starting to think this case would go cold.

[@jeannineroberton4019]

Choices must be made and personal accountability makes Evil.

[@dee1665]

True

[@dragapro]

Well, he does have more "hands on" experience than her

[@marcbee1234]

Period.

[@JohnSmith-vz2gu]

There is no treatment for psychopathy psychologist gave up on that along time ago

[@wqv5423ln]

Because it's a spiritual problem at yhe root

[@franb.3100]

Why don't most people understand this? I have no idea. This type of mind cannot be solved - convict, put them away, no parole.

[@olgakipke3720]

@@wqv5423ln Their brains are different just like other organs can be abnormal.

[@KatharinaK117]

There is. But psychiatrists cnt help them. Often. I'd rather suggest many of them an exorcist lmao. And rehab. At times.

[@meep9873]

Psychopathy was a valuable trait for society back in the early tribal days. Being able to pillage and kill enemy tribes and not have it effect you long term, is probably where the trait stems from. Def an issue in modern times

[@rullmourn1142]

Some killers are indeed born [that way]. They had good parents, and stable, successful siblings, but they still murdered.

[@skipsterr91]

Great work guys🫡

[@TheMunchyelena]

I feel like Brian will be the type of person she would want to speak with if and when convicted.

[@deborahhershey3045]

His name is spelled with a Y v i > Bryan v Brian = 60 v 44 and 44 = ABRAHAM

[@antnmu]

Yep

[@truepatriots3860]

I just want to find out the motive .

[@stoicsavage509]

Pure fantasy

[@spp-ut1jw]

He seems to be missing more than a few screws.

[@audreydaleski1067]

They like to. U like chocolate cake. They like killing.

[@mrsh2167]

You won't find one that makes any sense

[@thomasmueller2319]

He was a heroin addict. I have heard some expert say that when they stop, they get into other obsessions, and his psychopath personality chose to kill.

[@mrooz9065]

The student attended classes. What a shocker.

[@jazz5132]

No she is wrong he is pure EVIL!

[@hypsyzygy506]

Define "evil". You can't? Oh, dear, she's right after all.

[@jazz5132]

@@hypsyzygy506 a monster that doesn’t care if the hurt another human being.

[@dsoule4902]

Moral Relativity--- let's excuse away destructive, harmful actions rather than call it evil.

[@mariec4275]

Indeed.

[@petep5207]

We do it for females all the time

[@dsoule4902]

@@petep5207 "We" who? I certainly don't. Harridan. Psycho bisch. Jezebel. Demon. Kyht. Evil. She-devil. ..... All sorts of wonderful names for female psychos. Too bad if they got shorted on the brain stem.. still don't "get to act that way"

[@KatharinaK117]

Thank you for your commentary! Very well said!

[@dsoule4902]

@@KatharinaK117 👍🏻😘

[@stephanieann3456]

@LawAndCrime can you explain the next legal steps. If he’s refusing extradition, what happens next and how long should we expect the process to take to get him back to Idaho?

[@Kthb80]

He waved his court appearance, and will be extradited in the next few days. So he is not refusing extradition .

[@pkorzenowski2763]

He's "waiving the extradition hearing." I just looked it up because it was confusing to me too. People just say "waive extradition" but it's the HEARING that they're waiving. One of the reasons to do so is if you have no chance of winning. The public defender probably knew this and advised him to just go cooperatively.

[@bonniegeppert3912]

@@pkorzenowski2763 thank you for this information. Did not realize it was a hearing he was waiving.

[@22lyric]

*She LAUGHED when she mentioned "SUICIDEOLOGY"!?*

[@Gnu222]

An expert, on serial killers, how many interactions did she have with this guy? Just goes to show how good these psycopaths can be, at pulling the wool over people's eyes!

[@unowen9668]

He wasn't a killer yet...

[@natlove4]

@@unowen9668 how do you know?

[@unowen9668]

@@natlove4 she taught him in PA before he went to WA. As mistake-full as this crime was, I believe it was his first try at a felony.

[@abebuckingham8198]

He was a student of hers so I doubt she had much interaction with him outside of class. She probably didn't know anything about him at all.

[@katesleuth1156]

Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made.

[@80bbygrl]

It's really disturbing to think that some of the people that take these classes are not taking it to learn to help others, but other wise to hide their own crimes.

[@ivanbasson982]

Just think,... and you have a lecturer that just LOVES killing.... It can't get better than that......

[@MrSeekerOfPeace]

The classes should not be taught period.

[@societymenacinginc.6205]

@@MrSeekerOfPeace do you care to explain why?

[@MrSeekerOfPeace]

@@societymenacinginc.6205 criminology this specialized is only useful in law enforcement. Theirfore should only be taught there.

[@dannyhayes664]

She's enjoying the spotlight. I hope she enjoys her subpoena as well. All these post interviews will come back for explanation.

[@andrewmoore2939]

not much of an expert if she can't recognise one right in front of her

[@coudgeb]

How did she not pick up on this guy if she’s an expert?

[@sbrooke210]

It was years ago, why so salty?

[@haoadams]

When you get psychologically analyzed by everyone, you are quilty to everyone.

[@edwardquin4464]

Ms Levy, you seem so much more relaxed. You voice is less stressed, it seems to me. All the best!

[@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654]

Imagine she is wondering why she didn’t see him for who he was or was going to be? She is a specialist.

[@stevenclark5682]

Not that special

[@deborahhershey3045]

She is a TEACHER who does not have the inside knowledge of her students' mindSETS$ from their upbringing. She doesn't have a One on One relationship with her students. Don't blame her, blame HIS PARENTS!!! and t/heir FAMILY tree of DYNAMICS$ ...

[@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654]

@@deborahhershey3045 I’m not blaming her. She said she has talked with serial killers etc. her career is based on this. I wonder if she picked up anything tho. She has to be thinking about conversations n such. A heard other students said he talked over her n acted like he knew more than her.

[@susannana6729]

Right I said that earlier. Why didn't she see him for what he was