Blue Bloods is the Worst Cop Show | Copaganda: Episode 2

[@SkipIntroYT]

Tom Selleck's mustache is majestic tho

[@pengfeidong5268]

Truly one of our few remaining national treasures.

[@ViolentOrchid]

The mustache is also copaganda.

[@LeeePowers]

Getting food caught in that bitch while eating,isn't very majestic.

[@Spamhard]

Just wanna say I've really been enjoying this series so far! I hope you do more like this in the future, touching upon current politics and how TV/movies work around or with it. I'm watching more of your content now, although I've not personally seen a looooot of the movies and shows you talk about so it restricts my viewing, but this new stuff is fantastic. Enjoyed the Mrs Maisel one too!

[@jeffphillips1832]

I just discovered your channel, and I'm very impressed with the quality of your work and your insights. I immediately subbed and am looking forward to more of your critically important content. Please keep up the good work brother!

[@jontyrosenow9396]

My favourite episode was the one where they find out one of the cops is an active child molester, they don't want to arrest him at first but it gets revealed later by the plucky daughter that he had forged his cop documents and was actually not a cop So they were able to arrest him and sleep at night

[@petermmm42]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ameliorateepoch9917]

Depressingly accurate at how actual police agencies handle molesters.

[@jmckey]

Wait… really?!! Can you point me to the episode name or number? I really don’t wanna search on those terms.

[@_G4.R4_]

Jesus Christ…

[@danielrowan4716]

It’s ok everyone!!! He’s not actually a cop! Now we can hold him accountable to the law.

[@Pratchettgaiman]

Also that's not what a selfie is

[@RoseEyed]

THANK YOU! Like did another person over 50 write that definition?

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

LMAO

[@AtomicBananaPress]

@Yer Blues apparently all of mine are unselfies.

[@halfpintrr]

Selfie is just another word for self-portrait. Why is this so difficult?

[@Mad_S]

Wrong, every selfie is a sexy selfie. Its all about confidence.

[@jamiekamihachi3135]

“If you got a problem with her then you got a problem with me.” That threat sure works when your dad runs the NYPD, your brother is respected detective, and your sister is a prosecutor.

[@INFILTR8US]

Baby's First Threat

[@Hyndergogen9]

Especially when the family have a long history of closing ranks and exerting their influence to the families benefit.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Ah, good honest nepotism. You love to see it!

[@geedee1264]

I also like how they praise the t residents of the project for coming forward to the police, when in reality a few of those gang members would be informers with a police handler

[@tanizaki]

@@warlordofbritanniaDo you think The Jackson Five held open auditions? What if fewer than five guys named Jackson showed up?

[@Master_WannaBe_]

Hold on, it’s a show about a close knit family that’s in the same business together, no one outside their family is allowed to criticize them, you never rat out your friends and family, and they see themselves as attacked on all sides. Are we sure we’re talking about Blue Bloods and not Sopranos or Goodfellas?

[@xp7575]

Based

[@FabbrizioPlays]

@Margaret Gibbs a state sanctioned mafia, eh? [Scratches chin thoughtfully]

[@Gammera2000]

The police is the klan is the mafia.

[@Spielername]

Good point. Then again, the Police is a gang at its core and we as society should do everything to change it.

[@Spielername]

@@FabbrizioPlays more or less... but yeah, it is.

[@markuscriticus8278]

The funniest thing about the Reverend Potter character, he's obviously this evil strawman who only goes after NYPD for fake accussations of miscconduct, but the show DOES have Danny commit the usual cop procedural police brutality in several episodes. It's like the opposite of Moral Luck-dude's only wrong because he has shit luck of picking his fights.

[@jamesmooney3472]

My Grandpa loved this show because it was so forgetable that he could just re-watch old episodes every couple weeks because he wouldn't remember who did it. he also never remembered the name, always called it "New York Cops"

[@horsepuncher95]

Lmfao

[@ToruKun1]

Reminds me of when I was a toddler, I called Northern Exposure "Moose" because there was a moose in the opening credits. 😂😂

[@SillyStupidLilHoe]

Omg

[@honeycatacomb1191]

​@@ToruKun1 you just unlocked a memory for me that I haven't thought about in years!

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I like Blue Bloods. Its not perfect but it has its +s. I find it odd how the actors who are "family" hung on for years. If I was only in 2-3 scenes & wasn't having steady pay increases, I'd book out. 🥾

[@StNick119]

If some cop pointed a gun at me in an quiet stairwell while I was unarmed, I might throw myself out a window to safety. Like, if Blue Bloods wasn't forcing me to read it as a frame job, I'd see it as a scared desperate man making a poorly judged bid for safety.

[@snatchadams69]

Right, television shows like this try to convince us that we need cops that are just on the edge of doing something ugly but only to the 'bad' guys because the criminals they're trying to apprehend never have that dilemma. And we're meant to cheer these psychopaths on...

[@tomstokoe5660]

What I found confusing is that I'm pretty sure being a victim of police brutality doesn't give you immunity for whatever crime it was that cop was pursuing you for, you'll still go to prison if they can prove the case no matter how badly hurt you were. What exactly was the upside for that man from jumping out a window, he'd get to be famous? Why did it matter he was a criminal then?

[@lampad4549]

What stupidity is that? If you cops points a gun at you, you cooperate and you chances of getting hurt decrease significantly why would you run away unless you had something to hide and why the hell would you jump out of a window with a greater chance of hurting yourself. And if you do hurt yourself by jumping out of the window and then blame the cop for it then it is a frame job.

[@lampad4549]

@@tomstokoe5660 well that depends on the crime they are being persecuted with. If they are just someone who ran away from a cop when they were asked to be searched then no there is not really any crime you can charge them with that wouldn't interfere with the investigation of police brutality.

[@mojrimibnharb4584]

@@lampad4549 Sandra Bland, Philando Castile, Amadou Diallo, Tamir Rice, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Linden Cameron, Laquan McDonald, Andre Hill, and literally thousands of others, beg to differ.

[@Elukka]

It's kind of incredible that a pro-cop show seems to make the police look like a gang and just concludes that it's ok.

[@Halloween111]

An irony that unintentionally points toward the truth.

[@Abedeuss]

Similar to how Law and Order made, unintentionally, cops and prosecutors look unethical as fuck. "MIRANDA RIGHTS ARE JUST A SUGGESTION! WE'RE OKAY ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON!"

[@moustik31]

Is it? I bet police officers love The Shield too!

[@EdwardianRainbow]

Something that made me so uncomfortable was theres a liberal leaning granddaughter who is always framed as being too young to understand and/or the plot somehow enforces that her thinking is inherently wrong.

[@gomahklawm4446]

Supporting fascism....

[@thatguy22441]

I'm not a fan of criticizing people or what they cannot control, but my response to Blue Bloods can be summed up in two words: "Okay, Boomer." You know that's who is watching that show. That, and a few surviving members of the WW2 generation. They were the greatest generation, but that doesn't mean they're always right. By the way, that generation was very socialistic. Read about the "New Deal." That was pure, unmitigated socialism, period.

[@TheSoulHarvester]

Honestly, this is a mercy enacted by the show. If they portrayed young, especially female, family members with the same brush as every other group & individual critical of the police we'd have demented boomers throttling their grandkids in their sleep all over the country. It's necessary to remind the audience that the young have an excuse for not being sufficiently fascist, for everyone's safety.

[@hellishcyberdemon7112]

@@gomahklawm4446which fascism flavor is this? police fascism? gun owner fascism? right wing fascism?, i dont know if you understand what that means, user authoritarian instead

[@dorpth]

She's the Lisa Simpson of the show.

[@Nutshellbill]

I've always thought Blue Bloods had a great, unexplored spin-off premise: Someone trying to take down the corrupt Reagan dynasty as an outsider.

[@piritskenyer]

Imagine making that in the style of the Wire, to give it even more contrast. One being black and white, the other one being grey...

[@76678-m]

That’s a great idea. I’d imagine it as a person whose father was killed by Danny or a person wrongly imprisoned for 10-15 years because of the Reagan family.

[@2stral]

...potter?

[@calci2679]

This would be so awesome. But it HAS to have different writers lol.

[@Durandurandal]

My standout memory of this show is a a judge being chewed out by her boss for following protocols as "this isn't law school" because she didn't sign a search warrant for the commissioner's son since he could given no evidence of probable cause as the evidence he had was illegally obtained and so couldn't mention it

[@elbruces]

Judges have bosses in this show? Extra weird.

[@ACGreyhound04]

@@elbruces - A judge’s “boss” would be a higher judge, either in jurisdiction or in seniority. That higher judge doesn’t literally supervise them, but can overturn their rulings, or remove them from the bench in some cases.

[@lighterflud]

I burst out laughing when it turned out the Bitterment issue's solution boiled down to "the citizens should take more risks so police can have an easier job."

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

Cops love the idea of having a dangerous job and the glory that comes with it, but when they have to do something that might be dangerous they'll do anything possible to avoid it As we know now, that includes letting little kids get gunned down as they sanitise their hands and check their phone (with a Punisher/thin blue line logo background of course)

[@trianglemoebius]

"The police are the only thing protecting you from the evil bad people but also you need to protect yourself because the police can't always protect you from the evil bad people."

[@donnagant6575]

"police won't protect you from evil bad people, the police".

[@ob2kenobi388]

"...but if you try to take a risk and expose police wrongdoing, you better be prepared to catch a few bullets."

[@RobertMorgan]

I see it al the time here in St Louis, the PD literally saying we have this person in custody that shot this kid, then no one will make a statement, he walks, then the community screams the PD does nothing. And yes, they're afraid of reprisals, but police are not bodyguards NOR WOULD YOU OR ANYONE WANT THEM TO BE. It's a catch-22, the people want the police to do something, the PD can't do anything unless the people cooperate in investigations. SADLY the people are more afraid of gangs than the police, and I don't think the way to change that is to make the police scarier to make people more scared of the PD than gangs, we're already there in 2023.

[@NikGushue]

It took a few times for me to hear it, but that clip of the gang leader being arrested used Heartbreaker from the Rolling Stones. That song is about kids being shot by police.

[@8301TheJMan]

Among other things, it's also about a girl od'ing on heroin. It's a great song, prolly the best that the Stones ever made. But anyways, good catch, i noticed that too

[@wafflefalafel9442]

one of my biggest pet peeves is copaganda that uses the song "fuck the police" in badass cop moments. it happens surprisingly often lmao

[@francheska3128]

@@wafflefalafel9442 that 100% a pa thing and not a trope of the genre

[@AdultThirdCultureKid1971]

Yikes. They didn't use "Know Your Rights" by The Clash? Oh...right.

[@iamnohere]

I: Yikes... I thought the Bella Ciao song being used in freakin' _adverts_ was a disgusting move, but this, this is outright heinous

[@siphillis]

In a way, Blue Bloods depicts cops with the same ironic affection as The Godfather depicts the mafia. The difference is that The Godfather is tonally aware that its characters and their worldviews are fundamentally wrong, whereas Blue Bloods unironically believes the same line of bullshit its characters do.

[@gotgunpowder]

No lol, they're written exactly the same but you've been primed to have this kind of doublethink about them after consuming this propaganda vid.

[@NinjaTyler]

​@@gotgunpowder if it was exactly the same it wouldn't be constantly hailed by cops as great.

[@billymays1761]

@@gotgunpowderlmfao so now exposing the copaganda with sources linking to real world situations and material from the actual show is propaganda? But a cop show promoting basically an omerta within their ranks isn’t ? Sounds to me like you drink a lot of the blue Kool-Aid.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@billymays1761 as someone who watched godfellas, godfather, casino, and scarface....the "heros" all died tragically or was put in jail, there was no happy ending for anyone in the "business" i always remember what the former mob boss michael franzesse said about these films "why are young men idolizing these guys, do they realize they lost everything and died because they couldnt let go of the thrill" at least thou theres definate romanticizing of the mob, its still a hard life and it only ends in murder

[@billymays1761]

@@Chuck_EL “as someone who watched Goodfellas, Godfather, Casino and Scarface”, yeah you and like 80% of the male adult population 💀 also wtf do these movies and Michael Franzese have anything to do with Blue Bloods?

[@lilymanshel6146]

The nice suburban house that the Reagans appear to live in is also a big red flag -- unlike many cops in smaller towns in America, the NYPD and police in other large cities generally don't live in the communities they're policing. This contributes to the "Us vs. Them" mentality that a lot of cops have, and makes them feel less accountable to the people they're supposed to serve. I don't know if Blue Bloods ever actually addresses this but it seems like it should be important.

[@Saturnia2014]

On average that is the case, but occasionally I've seen cops living in the same depressed and depleted neighborhoods I've lived in, which hopefully meant those particular cops didn't have that mentality you just explained. But that's probably just me being ignorantly optimistic, maybe those cops were just as mean, miserable and out of touch.

[@allengreene9954]

@@Saturnia2014 Plus Danny always complaining he’s “broke”🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿 He’s a damn Detective and his wife Linda was like head Nurse. How the hell where they always broke???? That storyline got annoying real quick. People barley surviving on less than 30,000 a Year and they kept crying poverty despite an income over 215k-220k a year🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿

[@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459]

I think the Reagan house is in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn so they do live in the same city.

[@justinp5669]

@@allengreene9954 um nyc is expensive and I highly doubt their income is that high, plus kids bring up the cost of living a lot. Yes others have it worse for sure but if you are trying to raise a family in a decent neighborhood in nyc or really anywhere its gonna cost you.

[@allengreene9954]

@@justinp5669Although Danny got nobody to blame but himself. If he would kept himself under control, he would get higher up the ladder.

[@jezzuh9120]

It bothers me so much that the police brutality was portrayed as a malicious hoax when Markie Mark was literally just threatening to throw him out of the window.

[@jordanrodrigues8265]

Yeah, it's like saying that threat of force isn't force as long as the threatener has enough circumstantial luck to never call their bluff.

[@RolandIronfist13]

Not even Mark! Donnie!

[@Ghost_of_Avalon]

It's more troubling that they think someone's response to that would be "This is a great oppertunity to get this cop thrown in jail by hurling myself out the window and framing him for it." Like people pull some serious horse shit on each other all the time, but how insidious do these guys think people are that they would be willing to nearly kill themselves just to get at someone.

[@xuto2693]

To be fair, the show portrays an endless barrage of actual savage brutality that it also champions and celebrates. The abuse of power and corruption is hailed as a feature, not a bug.

[@tlm21189]

Threatening and doing are to big different things. It donnie by the way and your a joke..

[@skippiefritz]

"white, black, Hispanic, female." ah yes, the fourth race, women.

[@me-gr1or]

And the sixth, the Moose Lambs

[@snatchadams69]

Wow such a reductive thread nobody mentioned Crab people?!

[@xuto2693]

Glad I wasn't the only one that had to do a double take at that.

[@kyleheins]

Just the fourth overused talking point. That is the perspective it was written from, to interpret otherwise is inaccurate at best.

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

It's like Councilman Jamm said on Parks & Rec: "Muslim, Jewish. None of those weird countries!"

[@TheFaheyFierce]

one of my favorite scenes is Tom Selleck explaining to a Black officer who shot a white guy and was suffering from discrimination that this is a country of immigrants and how we all came here to make a better life. then the scene ends with some cheesy uplifting music to drown the pure bonkers of it all

[@chinavaughan6383]

Many people of African descent didn’t come to the U.S. willingly to find a better life, but were kidnapped and forcibly brought here to work as slaves so that others could have a better life😒

[@moustik31]

Lmao, we didnt "emigrate" anywhere!!! 😭

[@jaycievictory8461]

That police brutality episode with a Reverend lying about it makes me SO mad. As if the problem is black people making up cases. 🙄

[@davidsavage3120]

It does happen tho. I’m from Northern Ireland and catholic background, our politicians have lied about police brutality because they view them as British.

[@littleregg3164]

@@davidsavage3120 you're Irish and living in Ireland. This is a US citizen talking about an issue in the United States with entirely seperate context and parameters

[@allengreene9954]

@@davidsavage3120 How many Black People actually live in Ireland????

[@davidsavage3120]

@@allengreene9954 like 0.2% on the population according to the last census.

[@jhonshephard921]

@@allengreene9954 I agree with you but I am guessing the Irish guy is talking about the IRA types doing that, not the tiny minority of Irish black people. Completely different issue since those people view the country as being under occupation by the British.

[@Saturnia2014]

It's funny how Tom Selleck's character has a photo of Teddy Roosevelt hanging on wall in his office, all while Teddy Roosevelt when he was a police commissioner in NYC, was known to physically beat up corrupt cops. Do you think any of the cops who watch this show know that about Teddy Roosevelt? Also, Teddy had a pretty high pitched voice lol which is funny because I always thought he probably had a deep voice, too.

[@falconeshield]

Teddy was the real deal

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

@@falconeshield have to be to get a rep as one of the most badass dudes ever while sounding like Pee Wee Herman.

[@RogueAstro85]

@@falconeshield Did you miss the part where Teddy Roosevelt advocated for the genocide of Indigenous Americans?

[@revan7383]

Damn... he would be so cool if he wasnt uber mega racist

[@mikeym1479]

@@revan7383 99% of people were mega racists until like 60 years ago

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

"The blue wall of silence", i.e. "snitches get stitches". Now where have I heard that before? 🤔

[@robertstan298]

@@kevinbissinger It's the same in for military. Legalized thugs. Yet somehow state violence never even gets labeled as violence to begin with. We're sooo propagandised...

[@mrsoshadabaadman]

@@robertstan298 Well said.

[@Trussme96]

It's almost as if they're a gang or a cartel.

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

@carlos Rivas Triggered?

[@Saturnia2014]

@@robertstan298 Correct. Just look at the crimes against servicemen against other servicemen in the military. Hell, there's even been "mysterious" deaths on US military bases. Let's not even mention the amount of sexual assaults that goes on in the armed forces.

[@Miltz69]

I love how they trivialised how good cops coming forward and facing retaliation for reporting dirty cops can all be solved by one of the main characters giving the rest of the guys an "empowering" speech.... Don't report them for leaving a fellow officer to DIE, don't make them face ANY consequences..... nope just need a "good speech"??? How many cops who've MURDERED someone have multiple incidents of using excessive force got a "good talking to" before they finally KILLED someone

[@paytonwoods4750]

99

[@XxELITEREAPERxX]

At least 7

[@calci2679]

it's hilarious considering the entire premise of the first season is about the 'good cop' middle brother being murdered for trying to take down corrupt cops.

[@Islandswamp]

That selfie line was probably a result of a focus group full of old people.

[@rachzen]

I have watched that episode. It's even funnier if you see the shows example of their idea of a 'selfie' which was just a regular selfie, and it caused a scandal for a high school girl.

[@justinfitzsimmons]

I'm pretty sure the "easy solution to the gang in the projects" is essentially a coded racist message. It says "if 'those people' would just do exactly what the cops say and rat out the gang members, we could be living in harmony". It's an excuse for people removed from the situation to just sit back and blame the victim when they think about the complicated relationships between gangs and police.

[@abraxaszee8953]

If it were up to me the law abiding would be legally allowed to kill the gang members themselves.

[@warlordofbritannia]

The easy way is almost never the best way-if it was, the world would be a much better place.

[@threenumbnuts]

Yup. "If the harsh reality of game theory just wasn't the case, literally everyone snitching simultaneously would be a great solution"

[@FrogsForBreakfast]

It's not like the gang members are anyone's family or the majority of them are under 18 and in high school or anything

[@joshuagross3151]

I mean, if they don't want solutions, they shouldn't complain about the problem.

[@star3catcherSEQUEL]

"No one ever laid on their deathbed thinking they should have been tougher on their friends for their missteps." I'm only 26 and I have absolutely thought this, frequently. The fact that the show so matter-of-factly assumes most people wouldn't is very telling. No my dude, sorry, we don't all kiss our friends' asses to a fault, that's very much a you thing.

[@faustopancake234]

Bruh, they got the actor with the darkest skin they could find to play the bad guy Reverend. They knew that was the only way they could make a reverend the villain in a cop show for old white people. This show is like babies first cop show for geriatrics.

[@TorquemadaTwist]

Wesley Snipes took a hard pass so... this guy.

[@dominiqueknight6707]

I was hoping someone would clock the colorism so I wouldnt feel crazy

[@faustopancake234]

@@dominiqueknight6707 nope, you aren't crazy, that actually happened.

[@victorspennato3008]

The Reverend isn’t a villain.

[@CrusaderDom3]

Bruh, the Dems got the blackest most braided haired woman to be on the supreme court just because we need a black woman on the court because reasons.

[@ninskdesign]

I had no idea this show was so bad- the organic sniper plot line gave me a good laugh though!! The most insidious thing about this show is the fact that the reverse mortgage guy is being portrayed as ‘trustworthy’ to the older demographic that those mortgages prey upon.

[@nataschavisser573]

Yes!! Tom "reverse mortgage" Selleck. There is no excuse.

[@stabbykinz1446]

Oh my fucking god, I *forgot* about the reverse mortgages. Jesus, they really were just straight up exploiting the 70+ demographic.

[@hameley12]

I haven't seen the EP about the reverse mortgage guy. But I've read articles and also seen some videos online how devious scammers of mortgage agencies, charity agencies, and debt collection agencies and others taking advantage of senior citizens. Many of them are targeted, conviced or threatened into sending money. Yet some TV shows allow/promote that is okay to be targeted and let it slide. Ugh!

[@jennifermiller6777]

How fitting that their last name is Reagan. Been dead for over 10 years and he still haunts us all

[@avalonone01]

Yes, indeed.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Twenty years at this point In a way, he’ll outlive us all

[@ViolentOrchid]

Instead of saying 'Reagans' or 'cop', say 'gang' and ask yourself if it's a feature or a bug?

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

feature

[@acleus]

My mom watches Blue Bloods and every time she brings it up her follow-up is always "I know, it's awful but I just like it. They also pray at the end of the episodes" or something along those lines. Basically, I think she literally just watches it because the "good guys" pray, which is just a weird reason.

[@segara04]

It also presents a weird conversation about the place of U.S. christianity in the police conversation, the colorblindness conversation, and an overall complacency to white supremacy conversation.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@segara04 as a black man seeing other blackpeople praise american christianity and speak on america like its some beacon of hope is depressing

[@Ponsy_J]

This sounds like the reverse version of when you're a kid you don't really care about the quality of the show, your just bored and just want something interesting to watch.

[@LordVader1094]

@@Chuck_EL There's nothing wrong with black people being Christians tho

[@TheKillerEmcee]

@@LordVader1094yes there is. History will teach you that.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

Trying to explain what a selfie is and getting it wrong

[@williamhiers1280]

I remember the episode with the window and always thought the guy leaped out to try and escape, not necessarily to deliberately injure himself to frame Danny, with the look of realization coming over him being more along the lines of him thinking Danny basically inadvertently just handed him his escape route. Only to then break his legs because they were higher than he'd thought. To me it was a botched escape attempt that only turned into a frameup after the fact.

[@saransong5547]

Please don't assume no oldies are watching your vids. I'm an oldie, and, while I've never seen even one episode of Blue Bloods, I am watching you, babe, and you're doing a great job!

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

Yeah, but you know you're one of the cool ones right?

[@frederikbuttenschn7562]

What a genuinely sweet comment :)

[@robertturni2845]

The irony of blue bloods portraying police brutality as not a problem while Danny constantly commits acts of police brutality and thinks it's acceptable behavior.

[@davidsavage3120]

Aye but it’s always against pedophiles or rapist. I’d turn a blind eye to that, wouldn’t you?

[@nataschavisser573]

@@davidsavage3120 Were they convicted of those crimes or only accused of them? Donny is not a judge and jury of their peers. Also, if this was set in the real world he would eventually overreach and beat up a completely innoscent person.

[@MyChannel773]

prodigal son keeps doing the same thing... i had to stop watching a while back bc it was getting ridiculous

[@sorzin2289]

@@davidsavage3120 Nothing more dangerous than self righteousness. Also I doubt he would deck his Captain if he told him he was an unrepentant rapist or pedophile. Regardless of what you think, he's targeting someone weaker than him in a place where his word is taken as fact. No amount of justification of the suspects alleged crimes will make that ok.

[@lalalili2982]

against as in investigate and arrest? sure. as in beat up? no.

[@toppersundquist]

*watches scene of black kid framing cops for brutality* Ben Shapiro must love this show.

[@ACGreyhound04]

Occasionally a framing does happen (like that idiot Jesse Smollett) so of course the propagandists try to claim such a case is the rule rather than the exception.

[@Daeranilen]

My mom used to be mega into this show, and I've never forgotten the downright insulting pro-stop-and-frisk episode that came out at the *height* of the legal battle over stop-and-frisk in New York. Just disgusting.

[@gomahklawm4446]

Glorifying fascism...

[@thatguy22441]

I always thought it would be funny has hell if the courts allowed "stop and frisk"......but only after the legalization of drugs and firearms*. *It doesn't have to be either/or. Per the US Constitution, both are perfectly legal. Besides, our system allowed the likes of George W. Bush and Donald Trump (among many, many others) to ascend into the highest political position in the world. That said, the government should not be the only people who are allowed to have guns.

[@jediping]

That must have been one of the early episodes, because I remember the Moustache explaining that a cop can spot a (IIRC Black) drug dealer with a gun, so stop and frisk should be okay. Such BS.

[@TylerFG]

If I had a nickel for every time Donnie Wahlberg played a bastard cop with the last name "Matthews", I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@hotelmario510]

Wait, but the cop he plays on this show is called Reagan?

[@lauramonzon2559]

@@hotelmario510 The other cop he plays called Matthews is from the Saw movies

[@josephm1762]

If I had a nickel for every time Donnie Wahlberg played a bastard cop I'd have like, at least three nickels (this, the Saw franchise, Dead Silence)

[@stephencooper7459]

​@@hotelmario510think it's saw franchise. He's actually good in that tbh. Blue bloods not a fan . He was in band of brothers decent in that to.

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

I remember an episode where apparently a cop shot an unarmed kid, but oh no he actually did Have a gun but someone just took it to make the police look bad. I used to watch this when I was younger, but that episode was burned into my head about what this show is about, and it was around the time I began changing my own views on a lot of things.

[@Matthews_Dintwe]

I just watched that episode today, lol season 4 episode 7. This is where I'm drawing the line with this show 😂

[@ravenrose5712]

If the cops are a "family," then these days they're coming across as criminal at best and downright abusive at worst.

[@galactic85]

They are a "family." A family of mobsters.

[@trianglemoebius]

The cops are a family, but so were the Genoveses.

[@the_sky_is_blue_and_so_am_I]

​@@trianglemoebius Yep

[@natsmith303]

I watched a couple episodes of this with my parents. The one where Tom Selleck manipulated an activist into not burning a flag by arranging for the protest to be at the activist's father's graveyard told me everything I needed to know about this show.

[@doctorno-face422]

Lmao I just re watched that episode earlier this week, he didn’t manipulate him, he told it was a bad idea to do so because Tom Selleck knew rival protesters would show up and they did, causing a mass fight, leading to the leader being injured and put into the hospital. Also, it is extremely disrespectful to burn the American flag when your very own father fought and died in war

[@ToruKun1]

@@doctorno-face422 Burning the flag is #based, especially when your dad died for no reason in a bullshit war.

[@davidsavage3120]

@@ToruKun1 world war 2 was a bullshit war?

[@ToruKun1]

@@davidsavage3120 Nobody said anything about the character's father dying in WW2, but yeah, all wars are bullshit.

[@davidsavage3120]

@@ToruKun1 have to disagree on that one. Firstly if it wasn’t for the Americans in world war 2 I wouldn’t be here because my family was in camps. And secondly if it wasn’t for war my country Ireland would still be under British rule.

[@PKAC972]

The bottom was reached when the show began saying that cops are the true victims of hate.

[@sunflowerrylou720]

i think about my Criminal Justice professor who swore by this show and claimed it was the only realistic portrayal of policework on tv and literally would make us watch episodes in class and take quizzes after

[@l-_olvlo_-l]

That's a genuinely scary and depressing thought

[@manof2morrow100]

I dropped my criminal justice major due to a professor like yours. We brought articles in to start class. I brought in an article about a rapper who shot a gun in a night club and prosecutors wanted to use his lyrics to show his violent history though he had no record. The professor said that was reasonable. I said if Stallone was in court you wouldnt show Rambo to show him as a mercillesly killer and he responded I think the courts would. GTFOH. I switched my major to Social Psychology due to another professor who sat me down and explained that due to my emotional intelligence, empathy, and sense of morality she was worried about my safety and sanity if I joined any police force.

[@java4653]

That's insane.

[@seraphonica]

still angry about that line... "the reward of full compliance given by the police". like, they DO realize that justice should be an expectation, not a reward, right?

[@MrMan-dd4hi]

Leaving the name Reagan in context makes it better imo, because of how fucking abhorrent the man actually was (ignored AIDS, increased drug war, Iran-Contra, trickle-down myth, vetoing anti-Apartheid measures, etc.)

[@timothyowen4503]

Ronald Reagan was the greatest President of the 20th Century. He was anti-communist/socialism and truly loved America. He stood for pro-life, school prayer, and and traditional values. He rebuilt our defense, made the tax system fairer, ushered in 20 years of prosperity, and won the cold war. His biggest failure was bringing us George Bush. Btw, it's called "Supply Side Economics" and it sure worked. Only libtards called it trickle down.

[@Petey0707]

His legacy with the CIA is disturbing

[@brokenpotato438]

People hate when leaders make tough choices and call them weak when they dont. Reagen had a far from perfect presidency but to say it was abhorrent is braindead.

[@maxwellbarnhart1375]

@@brokenpotato438 "tough choices." Right. Let's call it that lol.

[@FlymanMS]

@@brokenpotato438 "tough choices", like "tough on crime"? Please dude was horrible

[@theriffwriter2194]

Aah, Teddy Roosevelt. The guy who enacted %80 of all the federal environmental laws. You know, back when it used to be conservative...to CONSERVE!

[@BenjaminStruthers]

Teddy Roosevelt was an interesting figure in American History. Liberals, Progressives, and Conservatives all have reasons to like/dislike him.

[@retropotatoe]

Well it was somebody else’s land so there’s that. 😅

[@ACGreyhound04]

And yet, Teddy almost CREATED the term “Progressive”. He’s a great figure to point to if anyone doesn’t believe that Republicans used to be the liberals in America.

[@kevinw712]

@@ACGreyhound04 at this point in time, to still try and pretend that the political parties switched in name/ideology in the middle of the century being a myth is honestly no different than denying the holocaust happened. "it was the democrats who fought for slavery in the civil war!" yeah, and you can totally tell that it's those same "democrats" today by all of the confederate flags you see hanging outside of obama/hillary/biden voters :rolleyes:

[@calci2679]

lol he did it to steal indigenous land

[@lilymanshel6146]

The "Reverend" character on Blue Bloods is almost certainly an unflattering caricature of Al Sharpton, a favorite punching bag for racist right-wingers.

[@mrsoshadabaadman]

Oh no that's terrible 😂😂 I can't wait for this show to be on This Is Sus.

[@rog2224]

Watching episodes with that character, I assume the actor likes the part, since he's not short of work on Chicago Med (Chicago PD is really unpleasant watching - it makes Blue Bloods look like Serpico.)

[@Saturnia2014]

@jabs69 He's apposed by other "opportunistic liars". He's too much of a competition for them.

[@cyclone313]

"His idea of the 'Promised Land' is his own show on MSNBC" where the real Rev Al has had a show for years. All that's missing is the perm.

[@lampad4549]

How is he a punching bag for racist right wingers? Al Sharpton himself is one cause of how ridiculous his stances and methods are. The character himself isnt much of a caricature compared with the real reverend.

[@calvinjessen6960]

what we need is a method of poping the information bubble that shows like these create

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

You can't because (and I don't mean to be a dick here)...People are fucking stupid.

[@Myke_thehuman]

@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 exactly and if they make a show to counter blue bloods. The audience that loves blue bloods will leave. Until the next blue bloods comes out. They’ve made up their minds and there’s no point even talking to them about it.

[@davidsavage3120]

@@Myke_thehuman the creator of the show already did, it was called Sopranos.

[@aprilk141]

@@davidsavage3120 Mafia gangs and police gangs aren't opposites, they're just competing for the same stuff.

[@rickj4808]

@@davidsavage3120 No, the creator of the sopranos is David Chase. Blue Bloods was created by Robin Green and Mitchell Burgess.

[@dazpatreg]

As a Regan from Ireland, let me apologise for Irish America

[@caitieeeee]

As a Regan from NY, let me apologize for Irish America too

[@LargerThanLifeTV]

there’s only one group in the world who constantly grovels and flogs themselves for the approval that’s never coming of other races. They don’t like you. Never will.

[@TehDeminz]

I work in elder care, working at an old lady's house for a few hours every day to keep her house clean, making sure her medicine is taken, and her fed. She watches this show from noon to 4 every day, and good god is it hard to stay politely silent while that shows on 'cause it just makes me fume in rage whenever it's on.

[@gomahklawm4446]

It's definitely pro-fascism...

[@waynejohnson4960]

It's not that serious 😂 smh

[@cam4636]

17:32 "The whole world is watching" was a chant by antiwar protestors in Chicago during the 1968 Democratic National Convention while the cops beat and dragged them through the streets. While that doesn't seem to tie directly into the scene as presented, its use as an 'anti police' catchphrase seems like an intentional reference.

[@AzureTheAvian]

The fact that the show tries to make the watcher think that all police brutality against black people was just the victim “faking it” is horrifically disgusting.

[@RobertMorgan]

Not all of it, just the part that actually IS fake, which happens in real life. It's always "Let's react! Don't wait for any videos or witnesses or details, No, ACT NOW! Let's go burn down a Quiktrip!"

[@BlackIce3190]

Spoiler alert; More often than not in reality it is. Cope harder.

[@iwishiwasneverborn5658]

​@@BlackIce3190WTF IS WRONG W/ U PPL?!?! Do u not understand that u're ACTIVELY contributing 2 the destruction of the ONE LIFE the ppl u HATE SO MUCH 4 NO F'KN REASON HAS? Jus like urself, we have ONE LIFE, ONE CHANCE 2 enjoy this and yet, y'all make it SO F'KN HARD! IMAGINE IF IT WAS U! THAT'S EMPATHY! A lot of y'all r supposedly "believers". Do u not think that u will have 2 answer 2 ur God 4 this EVIL? EVEN IF U CLAIM U DON'T KNO, THERE'S 2 MUCH INFO OUT THERE 4 THAT 2 B AN EXCUSE! Willful ignorance WILL NOT b excused. 💯 "It doesn't affect me, why does it matter?" God, just DIE already! He told u 2 look out 4 those facing injustices NOT gaslight 'em, DENY, DENY 'em, or make urself the victim! I hate it here so much! 😢

[@ameliorateepoch9917]

It’s weird how we never see cops going after rich people the same way they go after the impoverished..it’s as if the cops know they have more power over the impoverished due to the jobs and ranks…HMmMMMMmMmm

[@cianbuckley7120]

@BlackIce3190 Oh really? Do you have statistics or evidence?

[@paladro]

i'm just waiting for a drama about roofers and the tough times their families face, as their loved ones go off to work at breakneck heights everyday and no chance at hero status for keeping your house dry.

[@ubahfly5409]

Hey that's not a fair comparison, it's a much more dangerous job... roofing, that is.

[@jhonshephard921]

Not sure if that would be interesting but delivery driver is one of the most statistically dangerous jobs in the US and could actually be interesting to watch. Interactions with multiple restaurant staff, various routes in whatever city as scenery, eccentric personalities of people being delivered to, etc.

[@llamacj]

I'd watch that....

[@user-M2CE]

@Margaret Gibbs I don't watch it, but my grandmother and great-aunt watch a show called “Fire County”, which might be up your alley.

[@FrogsForBreakfast]

If you want to get political, it could address wage theft.

[@augustrempelewert4377]

I watched part of a single episode of Blue Bloods once, because my parents happened to have it on (it's not their fault, the options on our tv are sparse). As soon as I heard a kid get shamed and intimidated into silence for daring to ask why shooting a cop is worse than shooting anyone else (hint: it's not) I noped right out. Now I feel vindicated. Also uncomfortable and sad.

[@NicolasSequeira]

This show should be called Blue Balls because it never delivers a satisfying payoff

[@ethanstump]

Wrong audience, your watching straight porn while gay. It does nothing for you, but it sure does something to my father.

[@TheKillerEmcee]

Perfect

[@mirkohoble]

O my god, I remember the episode where Janko was mad at her new boss because she wasn't kind nor friendly with Janko, and _how dare someone be mean to her!_ Later she played to be a victim of domestic violence to _"teach her boss a lesson about empathy."_ Eww.

[@gavingleemonex3898]

Yep. I had cops invite me to be friends only to turn around and say I ain't in their family and I ain't allowed to have an opinion. I'm only allowed to sit quietly at their table and admire everything about them. No thanks!

[@silverwatermermaid1563]

While trying to explain to my dad that equating a persons actions to their skin colour is racist I found out that he thinks that anyone who commits any crime, regardless of the severity, should be killed. I hope he never finds out about this show and the only thing that I can be happy about is that he's not a cop

[@xuto2693]

Apparently he isn't aware he'd be on the list of dead, along with every cop out there.

[@UnKnown-hp9gz]

@@xuto2693 exactly, there are too many laws that are broken and not one person in the world would be alive

[@bengallup9321]

What a ridiculous worldview. Yikes.

[@UnKnown-hp9gz]

@@xuto2693 i wonder what would happen to people visiting other countries seeing as different countries have different laws

[@rhyestripes6059]

my dad too, some people are just rotten in the brain, nothing to do other than wait untill they no longer walmthe earth

[@julietcunningham852]

"We have guidelines", and "A reverse mortgage isn't a way to steal your home". Sure.

[@naomiakp]

Blue bloods feels like it was written by someone with a thin blue line bumper sticker for someone with a thin blue line profile picture

[@the_sky_is_blue_and_so_am_I]

It was

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

The need of this show to prove everything Frank says to be correct, and confirm every bias he seems to have, especially in light of he’s close to the same age as most of the shows viewers, is really all you need to know

[@alessandror6001]

Blue bloods Is basically the Godfather but with cops

[@ecoRfan]

The Copfather

[@hooting-ton5215]

Which would be fucking amazing if they leaned into that angel. Maybe an IA investigator as the antagonist!

[@GAURAV25855ify]

Tom Selleck is more of that he should run for New Yorks mayor

[@calci2679]

except, by all accounts, The Godfather is of high quality

[@thatblerdoverthereb9654]

Im pretty sure that there was a real incident where an officer threw a man out of a window and claimed he did it to himself🤔

[@someturkishguy8638]

There was a real incident where a guy jumped off a bridge and his GF claimed it was the cops. Body cam video says different.

[@ViolentOrchid]

I think this also happened recently but a woman.

[@Saturnia2014]

@@someturkishguy8638 Maybe if cops weren't notorious for being known to likely shoot or best the piss out of people, the guy wouldn't have jumped.

[@someturkishguy8638]

@@Saturnia2014 Lmao no its because he's a criminal and wanted to get away from justice

[@fruitygarlic3601]

@@someturkishguy8638 Being a victim of police brutality does not exempt you from criminal prosecution. Learn the law before you start commenting on it. A criminal couldn't use that as a reasonable defense, and would be unlikely to try it (assuming they think it is) because of how risky it is to their body.

[@TheMovieSequelDude49]

As someone who was a huge Brooklyn 99 fan before all this recent police discourse, I am curious your thoughts on Michael Schur's shows and how they handle police.

[@benvoliothefirst]

@@ianpitzerds Good news, everyone! See part 3!

[@Ray_D_Tutto]

Michael Schur is the worst.

[@vexxama]

A few clips kept coming up on Facebook and the show is horrific. They act like the police are exempt from oversight, they’re corruption and harassment is fine, and that the blue wall of silence is absolute. In one episode an officer edits files to make a fine for her neighbour go away, she even admits doing it the next scene. They then follow a man from the same office (stalking) to give him a ticket at the first minor traffic infraction he has (harassment). She could have just paid the fine for her neighbour, or appealed it, but instead we have a cop who complains about the fact they’re not allowed to just scrap files they don’t like.

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

The irony of casting the original Sweeny Todd on Broadway to play a former police chief. That show is literally about a corrupt judge who looks the other way on sexual assault, and pisses Sweeney off so much that he *spoiler* literally kills that judge at the end of the show!

[@eamonndeane587]

Now I'm hungry for Meat Pies...

[@Thelastunicornlover]

I actually just ushered for the musical version at my local theater!🎭

[@anarchohouston9979]

That one episode where Jamie purposefully made a suspect fall off a fire escape shocked me. Is that in the NYPD handbook?

[@gomahklawm4446]

Of course.

[@MichaelTries]

You are doing amazing work. Surprised at how in depth some of those clips were... you really did your research! Thank you very much for the good content

[@Frank_D]

When you get caught speeding you can either pay the fine or write an episode of Blue Bloods.

[@caslaBBalsac]

Small counterpoint: By presenting the police perspective on themselves, and how excuse themselves for their real problems, it HAS given us a tool with which to better fight them.

[@georgekostaras]

Also I'm going to be honest, a show about social workers would be way more cool than any show about cops

[@galactic85]

Why the hell hasnt anyone done that yet? Like....we love drama and heart break. It's what tv is built on. It's why people watch 'the wire.' Most of the social work media that I know of is reserved for movies. I can't think of any social work tv shows. We get medical dramas, cop dramas and even FIRE FIGHTER dramas. Why no social work dramas?

[@imaginareality]

There's a british series called Damned. It's kind of a workplace comedy set in a social services department. I binged it a while ago and remember really liking it (but I'm not the authority on what constitutes good and unproblematic TV).

[@kwarra-an]

@@imaginareality thank you so much for the recommendation. I'm on episode 4 and enjoying it immensely - so far nothing problematic (in fact pretty progressive!). I love Jo Brand especially!

[@imaginareality]

@@kwarra-an cool, that makes me happy 😊

[@duckofdeathv1595]

That was my favorite part of the show judging Amy (the first seasons anyway) Her mother was a social worker and had interesting story lines.

[@darthvirgin7157]

THE WIRE was the BEST and probably the most REALISTIC cop show ever. unfortunately, the show depicted cops TOO realistically for real cops to appreciate.

[@samm5703]

I didn’t finish it cuz i got bored but there were definitely parts i liked like how they always didn’t get the bad guy those cops didn’t feel like superheroes. My favs personally r the shield and true detective s1

[@javitsjacob4335]

dayum, just found this channel. first off, can't believe you actually watched that many eps of blue blood XD. secondly, your demeanor and dialogue are both spot on and entertaining. and thirdly, i cant wait for the next one! awesome channel, bout to binge the rest of it. keep it up!

[@allengreene9954]

We Own This City was a very accurate portrayal about the Police than many of these shows on mainstream TV and even better it was based on a True Story.

[@eamonndeane587]

And Created by the Man behind 'The Wire'.

[@allengreene9954]

@@eamonndeane587Yep 👍🏿

[@jordanvangundy975]

As an attorney, I’m super annoyed by the way they just brushed off the conflict of interest when she has to investigate the use of force policy. If she’s investigating the department, headed by her father, she has a personal conflict and that can’t just be brushed off. She may need to withdraw from the representation, and, at a bare minimum, she’s going to have to get a waiver from her client.

[@redtexan7053]

Ah yes, the show that takes the already rancid “show all about how cops are always the good guys” premise and lumps on an extra “it’s totally cool that everything should be controlled by one guy and his family” for no extra charge.

[@Ivanmaradonaaa]

Me being from Mexico and doubting someone from my family actually watches CBS: 👁️👄👁️

[@yucol5661]

Same! 😂

[@marias4792]

Same but I'm from Paraguay

[@c.m.9369]

To be fair: Donnie Walberg‘s character eventually gets targeted by the Jiggsaw-killer for his corruption and eventually crushed in between two blocks of ice. So, one could argue that his character tells a cautionary tale.

[@TylerFG]

Even in that fandom, you get dumbfuck bootlickers defending his actions by default just cause he beat up Jigsaw

[@mgreenwa]

Law & Order does a LOT more "ripped from the headlines" episodes than Bluebloods does.

[@GAURAV25855ify]

Blue bloods is almost a spin off from NYPD BLUE

[@Kmcgonigle0]

The best part of the show is when the DA sister refuses to charge someone because there is no evidence and the rest of the family gaslights her into feeling bad about it

[@painkillerkhalil]

That's what I hate about it the most. Every single time they don't get their way with Erin whether its an arrest warrant without evidence or help with a case or Danny Reagan barging into her office to get an arrest warrant they throw it in her face with the most passive aggressive attitude at the dinner table every single time almost to the point where I feel sorry for her and wished she'd just quit her job. Fuck the family business! I'm surprised she's remained the ADA for so long enduring the shit she takes from her police family because if I was in her shoes, I would've resigned a long time ago and found another job and i wouldnt even give them the honour of telling them. let's see how they would get their arrest warrants without her help now! Let's see how long they would last without Erin being there to clean up after them every time they fuck things up in a case.

[@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682]

I'm really interested in this one as ice always felt that Blue Bloods is one the more blatantly manipulative cop shows but couldn't fully articulate why.

[@calmkat9032]

The black man jumping out of the window is almost as bad as the True Allegiance moment where the black child gets shot by a cop but it turned out to be on purpose to spur an anti-police movement.

[@antonnurwald5700]

" I watched it so you don't have to." Amen. You're a hero, I'm serious. I hadn't even heard of this shit andI probably would have gone mad watching a single episode.

[@warhawk9566]

There's literally one episode where the commissioners right hand man gets SWAT'd, the cops slam the guy to the ground and throw his wife to the ground (both are like in their 50s-60s), on top of it according to the phone call, they were told the wife was the fucking victim in the situation and they still chokeslammed her. And when the Right hand dares to say to the commissioner that "the cops took it too far, they hurt my wife" the commissioner has the actual balls to go "well you cheated on your wife so do you really have room to say that?" Yeah, no really. Reagan then blames his right hand for being "armed" even though he says that he thought there was an intruder and the police didn't identify themselves at first and Reagan insists that he only got swatted because "he made an enemy." Who, I shit you not, turns out to be a make-a-wish kid who the Right hand man didn't give a good enough gift. The Comissioner makes no attempt to address the police brutality, the right hand man forgets about all his anger because "we caught the real culprit," and ends with this statement that the police did no wrong and the swatter was the real monster. And while yeah, i can agree swatters are fucking scum, maybe the situation could be a lot less dangerous if they didn't go into a house assuming everyone was a culprit

[@FrogsForBreakfast]

Wait so the woman got cheated on and chokeslammed by a cop and the chief's reaction is that the husband shouldn't bring up concerns about her?

[@warhawk9566]

​@FrogsForBreakfast the commissioner is basically saying the right hand has no right to complain about the right hands wife's treatment by the police when the right hand cheated on her, as a complete deflection

[@mechanicaldavid4827]

Weird how Tom Selleck is yet again scamming seniors while skating away from consequences (and if you don't get that, look up his IRL role as a re-mortgaging agency spokesperson).

[@Firestorm422]

I mean I wouldn't blame an Actor for the creation of a Show they didn't Create/Run/Write. It's not like he was one of the creators.

[@morganbeare1764]

I lost any lingering "Magnum P.I." goodwill & respect for Selleck when he came out in defence of the NRA after the Columbine School Shooting. Even Rosie "the Queen of Nice" O'Donnell got so sick of his NRA boosterism bullshit she kicked him off her show. I don't think he ever really got over being turned down from the role of Indiana Jones back in 1982.

[@zenkim6709]

Yeah, I remember when we could literally see wall-to-wall showings of both Blue Blood episodes AND ads of Selleck shilling for reverse mortgages all together on Ion Television. Even back then, seeing Selleck gush unironically for what sounded like a predatory scheme to take away property from homeowners felt sus, but now ... ugh. Just *ugh*.

[@alicehammond7622]

@@Firestorm422He’s also an executive producer on the show, so he definitely has some power over what the show does

[@ryancoulter4797]

The Sunday dinners make me call this ‘If The Waltons Were Cops’ (and I loved The Waltons). Keep expecting one family member at the table to be called John Boy. What’s especially sad (besides Selleck not being in a sequel to MPI where he’s a retired magnum basically doing the Higgins role now while Lily is the PI) is seeing actors from shows like The Wire and The Sopranos on this show. Like they were hired to give all the tv cop cliches some credibility.

[@StNick119]

This doesn't have NEARLY enough views, likes, and comments. Time to snort some ALGORITHMICAINE

[@Seal0626]

I'd be fascinated to see an analysis of how UK police dramas compare to US. I know that The Bill used to frequently get complimented by actual police who'd say that the only inaccurate thing about it was that they always wrapped the case up at the end of half an hour. It felt very warts-and-all to me, they definitely showed bad sides to the police. I probably just want to believe that my guys aren't as bad, but I wonder if there is a significant difference there that is exemplified in the gulf in quality and ideology between the original and the American Life on Mars.

[@soulstealer5625]

To add onto a hear old comment, line of duty is an interesting take on the police with the amount of corruption in the police, especially structural.

[@canine8284]

As someone whose bluebloods-watching family switched to UK cop shows post-COVID, I’ve been exposed to a lot more variety of stuff from across the ocean. I’ve enjoyed the show Vera, but it’s far from perfect. It certainly has its moments where its bias shows through. Still an ancient comment, but I felt like i should add on

[@Sapphonouveau]

I think the analysis is much needed. One of the things that always struck me about The Bill, for example, was how evidently racist it was even for folks like my mum who were newcomers to the UK and whilst Black still had a slightly rose-tinted, apolitical view. I'm sure it's changed but it was one of the few TV shows she'd always speak out against watching if we happened to keep it on in her presence for more than ten minutes!

[@horticulturalist7818]

I just started this video but I remebe en I lived with my grandparents they were watching this i think around 2017-2016 and there was a whole thing where a cop shot a black kid and in the fantasy of the show the kid actually had a gun.... as soon as I saw that I was lik "oh copiganda"

[@kyleheins]

But dramas showing the kid having noth had a gun isn't propaganda? Dude, both appen alot, shows have to pick one story to tell.

[@horticulturalist7818]

@@kyleheins ok but nah brah. A. I hiiiiighly hiiighly doubt that the cops have shot neeeearly as many armed black children as unarmed so the difference would be one is set in reality and the other is a fantasy. and B. Propaganda can come in many forms but it seems like just like bluebloods your framing in a certain way to obfuscate reality. This is one example of many in the video of BB shifting and morphing reality to suit a pro police messege.

[@LezbeOswald]

"Now you got guys with Master's degrees in tactical police strategies, PhDs in restorative justice in urban policing!" "Your point?" "I liked this department the way it used to be." so...filled with a bunch of people who didn't know how to be strategic in policing or how to police _justly?_ seems like the basics of being a "good cop," weird to brag about the good ol' days when none of the cops knew shit about fuck.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Reminds me of a bunch of comments I saw about the progression of automobiles were older people were saying: "Back in my day, manuals told you how to change the oil instead of not to drink it!" Their responses were stuff like: "We're not the ones responsible for that."

[@Haitch_Kay]

I'd really like to see a police/copaganda breakdown like this for Twin Peaks, given how Dale is probably the closest we can get to the mythical Good Cop.

[@josephm1762]

I would argue that Twin Peaks is the opposite of a lot of cop-focused shows, in that most cop shows have a theme of "see look cops are good sometimes" (or in the case of Blue Bloods, "see look the cops are always right"). One of the primary themes of Twin Peaks boils down to "it doesn't matter how 'good' an individual cop is, their jobs leave them functionally unequipped to prevent harm, even leads them to become part of the cycles of violence they thought they were preventing" Others have articulated that point better than I probably can though

[@Haitch_Kay]

@@josephm1762 Yea TP is like, now a traditional copaganda show in terms of how it's made and presented and how the story is told, but it is absolutely a Show About Cops and Cops doing Cop Things.

[@anniek2877]

i used to watch this with my family, and i didn't realize how messed up it was until i started learning about politics. like damn this copaganda really convinced me that the police were good when i was younger, and it boils my blood. i'm acab now, so looking back i get so angry at this show and its portrayal of cops looking back i think i liked it bc it has crime family energy, like how they would use their family connections to bypass laws. obviously is terrible for the police to be doing that, but it was entertaining they literally felt like a crime family, but the perspective is subverted so they are the good guys. everything they do it objectively bad, but it justified police brutality, conflict of interest, and the condemnation of people fighting for their civil rights. i mean they are active participants in the deaths and/or assaults of many people throughout the show (specifically danny abusing people he has in custody), and he is able to get away with it bc of his dad. so they are basically a self-righteous crime family

[@RockandrollNegro]

So when you were 9, you thought cops were good, but now that you're 12 you think all cops are bastards?

[@the_sky_is_blue_and_so_am_I]

Yep. Same.

[@alinaswaney7399]

never even heard of this show before but that's. a little terrifying

[@davidsavage3120]

It’s actually not that bad, he’s just grifting.

[@benjaminlillis7807]

@@davidsavage3120 ? This is literally the show. This is what happens in the show. What about this could be categorized as “gritting” from anyone who isn’t having their outdated beliefs attacked?

[@allengreene9954]

@@davidsavage3120 How it lasted 13 Years is a mystery too me. How it went for even 5 Years is appalling.

[@jonathanguzman3044]

I actually am pretty grateful you watched this show and got the gist of its themes and political messaging so that I wouldn't have to. Saved me time and irritation

[@Beteelgeuse]

My dad worked for CCRB under the Gulianni admin, he couldn't get an investigation on a cop through the massive delaying beauracracy but the few times he exonerated a cop it went right through. There are so many avenues for cops to do whatever they want

[@guzmantheglobalist1997]

Loved that you watched and analyzed blue blood so that I can know what goes on in the show without wasting time watching it

[@lovelysan]

Ugh. I work for cops, and they talk just like this show . Constantly having no self-reflection, pining for the "old days" when they were "allowed" to beat people, and constantly hmm laming "the media" for making them look b ad. And constantly seeking out people to hero-worship them. And being in a red county, they often get their wish 🙄 . It's super gross.

[@lukaj679]

My family watches this all the time and it makes me want to throw the tv out the window so thank you for this video

[@gomahklawm4446]

Are they fascists? Just curious...

[@WTFPr0m]

This series is fantastic! Super insightful. Thank you for doing this work (and for subjecting yourself to tons & tons of Blue Bloods for our benefit)

[@ACGreyhound04]

I don’t think it’s possible for anyone to rise to the level of NYPD Commissioner without having A TON of political savvy. Seleck’s character just reminds us that the best politicians are those who don’t LOOK like they’re playing politics.

[@FrogsForBreakfast]

Tbf his dad was also chief. So he was hired through nepotism and is incompetent. No need for political savvy 👍

[@agsilver2009]

I used to watch it when I was in highschool but after an episode in which during family dinner, comish stache started talking about the broken window theory and I remember thinking that it sounded like hard bullshit and like after that I just changed the channel.

[@evanbradley6169]

I know I'm a bit late, but do you remember what he was saying about broken window theory? I'm a criminal justice student so I'm more than a little curious about what this show could *possibly* have to say about it.

[@agsilver2009]

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