Identifying real and fake turquoise

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Identifying real and fake turquoise

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@GeoRockNerd
@GeoRockNerd 3 жыл бұрын
A few tricks I’ve learned may help others. Real turquoise is cold to touch because it is stone. If it’s resin impregnated or dyed plastic it won’t usually be cold to the touch or as dense as a real stone. If the matrix has a repeating pattern or you don’t feel a subtle seam or unevenness between colored parts and the matrix, that’s a red flag. If you have turquoise at home you want to test, there’s a couple easy tricks. Acetone on a q-tip rubbed vigorously on the stone will sometimes leach the dye out of a stone like a dyed howlite. If you get black or grey that can just be dirt or matrix material, but if any blue or green shows up, you’re looking at a dyed stone. The other test is a hot needle test. Heat up the end of a needle or thin metal tool in a flame and touch it to an inconspicuous spot on the stone, preferably the back if possible (unless it has a backing attached!). A natural stone will have no reaction or color change or smell. A resin impregnated or plastic piece will melt, discolor and smell bad.
@goesfarfliesnear1447
@goesfarfliesnear1447 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard your tips but as a turquoise fan, find them very helpful. Thank you! I would add to look at the setting-if it's cheap metal (not marked as silver in any way), then you'll have a good idea of what you're looking at. The design of a piece can be a giveaway too and it's helpful to educate oneself on different designers. It's always been one of my faves and I have a mix of uber expensive with costume grade. Love it with onyx and amber too.
@GeoRockNerd
@GeoRockNerd Жыл бұрын
@@goesfarfliesnear1447 Yes, excellent point about examining settings/hallmarks, absolutely! If the setting is cheap, chances are the “turquoise” is fake too! I also love turquoise with amber or carnelian, and even amethyst!
@msdee693
@msdee693 Жыл бұрын
I found a very thick turquoise bangle bracelet at a thrift store for 2.00. It's heavy & very cold to the touch. It's become my favourite piece of jewellery. 💗
@bozohead4702
@bozohead4702 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, so helpful
@Dragon-Slay3r
@Dragon-Slay3r Жыл бұрын
1️⃣🤫
@Connie-B
@Connie-B 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the 70's when turquoise was such a rage, it seemed everyone was on the bandwagon to sell.The lady I bought all my turquoise from told me the best thing to do if somebody is trying to sell you the stone is to "flick your bic" and ask if you can touch the stone with the fire from the lighter.She said if it was the real deal, it wouldn't hurt the stone and such but if the seller denied you or had a fit then pass it up as it was most likely fake and/or plastic. Worked for me!
@abbaski7546
@abbaski7546 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@curtiseverett1671
@curtiseverett1671 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha if you won't let me flick my Bic......I'm outta here!!! I remember that ad campaign! (I am 62 and proud of it!)
@Connie-B
@Connie-B 10 ай бұрын
yep I'm older than that and was flickin my bic ever since it came out.😆@@curtiseverett1671
@MrSpock-hw7mm
@MrSpock-hw7mm 4 жыл бұрын
Turquoise buyers beware! Many gem shops or online sellers are selling dyed howlite or dyed magnesite which has the web pattern similar to turquoise, a good test to see if you have a fake piece is put acetone on a cotton swab and rub it on the stone if color comes off that's a dead giveaway that it's not real. Also "African turquoise" is another stone people sell as turquoise but it is just jasper. Do some extensive research on genuine turquoise before buying any, hope this helps!
@diannameade495
@diannameade495 5 жыл бұрын
One hell of a dancer. He danced all around the questions and subject.💃
@Kawaii159qwerthvd
@Kawaii159qwerthvd 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@eugeneteo9664
@eugeneteo9664 3 жыл бұрын
he is the turquoise dancer.
@PokemonDallas
@PokemonDallas 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! So we still don’t know how to tell the difference. But it was a lovely display . 🕺🏻 🕺🏻💃🏽💃🏽
@-jamesbond
@-jamesbond 2 жыл бұрын
@@PokemonDallas the fake stuff is plastic or dyed white rock. rubbing dyed stone with acetone will remove the blue color. The real stuff is an actual stone thats been sanded and polished. It can be tricky becuz well polished stones seem fake sometimes.( Cabachons)
@PokemonDallas
@PokemonDallas 2 жыл бұрын
@@-jamesbond thank you! it does seem like maybe it isn’t hard to tell if you have a real piece but identifying which mine and where it came from is definitely the almost impossible part, if you do not know the history of the piece in question. So even though it seemed like this man didn’t answer the question, the question itself is very complex. There are some great videos here on KZbin that dive a bit deeper. Cheers!
@matahmed5593
@matahmed5593 3 жыл бұрын
He knows how to escape from a question he doesnt know the answer.
@allaboutroofing2
@allaboutroofing2 2 жыл бұрын
What question did he 'escape' from? Maybe I missed it.
@judithhume9321
@judithhume9321 9 жыл бұрын
So the way to identify real turquoise is by relying on the seller telling you it's real? I don't think so. This video doesn't do what it says it will do.
@TheEnAheL
@TheEnAheL 9 жыл бұрын
Judi Hume Nooo..there are sellers U can´t trust..BUT..there are better videos onKZbin..I did find a neckless..I don´t know IF it is real..BUT..the stones feels cold (like stones do) Sooo..I might have found a real turquoise neckless..for only..20kr..must be..around 2american$..the stones don´t mind beeing recycled..I did try a fireTest..2 see IF IT WAS PLASTIC..no..it didn´t melt..OR got black (as plastic might from fire?)
@TeselectaOperatah
@TeselectaOperatah 9 жыл бұрын
This video doesn't talk about spotting dyed gemstones made to look like turquoise. Most inexpensive turquoise found is dyed howlite or magnesite, two white, porous stones with dark veining. You can find examples online
@jeanschiffman
@jeanschiffman 4 жыл бұрын
@@TeselectaOperatah 67
@heathermimiwahlquist5587
@heathermimiwahlquist5587 9 жыл бұрын
ZERO information about how to determine real vs fake.
@baltic4296
@baltic4296 5 жыл бұрын
"Real/Natural" is certified.
@DD-hy1nl
@DD-hy1nl 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Too confusing, not good infor on the fake turquoise....
@PRCutie101
@PRCutie101 5 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a trend with all these real vs. fake turqouise videos... None of them explain shit! LoL
@jayasujanani4798
@jayasujanani4798 5 жыл бұрын
Baltic “
@fortysomethingbadgirls2173
@fortysomethingbadgirls2173 5 жыл бұрын
So what does dyed and waxed natural mean? Fire Mountain gems sells it. Claims the dye enhances the colors.
@K3Flyguy
@K3Flyguy 5 жыл бұрын
As a jewelery designer and gemstone polisher. I work with said materials frequently. Without extensive testing and knowledge anyone could be fooled if buying care lessly. On the other hand when I buy from one of my suppliers, I know his reputation and his business manners. I have cut everything including very expensive material as well as dimestore quality material. Honestly, if it is worked well and set in proper settings, it all can make some very stunning jewlery. Best advise if it seems like too good of a deal to be true, then it is. There are no screaming bargains or giveaways in the business! No such thing as " investment jewelery" ! I thought he did a good job explaining in the very short time he had.
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 5 жыл бұрын
I have picked up a couple of "dead pawn" Navajo pieces from consignment shops where the owner didn't know what they had. I checked the jewelers' marks on both at the time and verified with experts later. I got great pieces for way less than they should be worth. I'm not planning to sell, anyway.
@frankpalmer7304
@frankpalmer7304 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know about turquoise, but I can now identify fake interviews.
@Xenosophia
@Xenosophia 8 жыл бұрын
the interview is useless. Next time interview someone who actually cares to answer what he is asked :)
@arinic7
@arinic7 7 жыл бұрын
Xenosophia exactly!!
@williamthedabberlul2547
@williamthedabberlul2547 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. So true statement , X!
@katielyb
@katielyb 5 жыл бұрын
He answered the question quite well I think.
@Greg042869
@Greg042869 5 жыл бұрын
@@katielyb No he didn't.
@PRCutie101
@PRCutie101 5 жыл бұрын
Umm no he didn't lol I left just as confused as I was when the video started lol 😂
@RedVelvetRabbit
@RedVelvetRabbit 8 жыл бұрын
Sadly no real information on how to identify imitation turquoise.
@MrTNorris67
@MrTNorris67 5 жыл бұрын
I have been researching it a bit. This video was very vague in regards to telling natural turquoise from imitation turquoise. Less than 12% of natural turquoise does not need stabilizing Natural Turquoise is stabilized by soaking it or pressurizing resins or acrylic compounds into the pores of the stone, resulting in affordable, higher quality stones and finished jewelry. 90% of the Turquoise on the market is actually dyed Howlite? Howlite is an absorbent white mineral that can be dyed in almost any color The hardness for Howlite is 3.5 whereas the hardness for most turquoise is 5-6. this is kind of a difficult test, so basically if your stones scratch easily then they are more than likely dyed Howlite. If your Turquoise is dyed the acetone qtip method might damage your stone so do it on a part that does not show. If blue comes off on the qtip- and the stone has a lighter or white spot-it is probably howlite that has been dyed.(the inside of the stone will still be white) Rainy days are not good for this scenario, for it can lighten your turquoise. The Price is usually the best way to tell if your turquoise is natural or has been dyed . If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is. a strand of perfectly matching amazing blue Turquoise beads In nature would be very difficult to find a bunch of Turquoise beads that have exactly the same color. Find someone you trust, find out where the stones came from and do the above tests. (fire will ruin imitation turquoise so I would use the acetone method instead)
@yateleyhypnotherapy2111
@yateleyhypnotherapy2111 3 жыл бұрын
I knew if I looked in the comments someone would actually help all of us angry frustrated people. Love you EqualRights, & even more after I saw your name. Xxx
@f.u.noseyassstalker7147
@f.u.noseyassstalker7147 2 жыл бұрын
Well thank you, I really appreciate this lesson. So much good information you have shared. This white man being interviewed by this other white man is only talking about prices and it's coming off like exploitation. So I appreciate your detailed summary on how to tell real from fake and how to do a test that's the important part. There are people up here and the Northwest that are selling so-called turquoise, some of them even claim to be native blood but most of us can tell that they're not native blood these are the $5 Indian white people running around with no culture and no connection to who they are, they're just the basic white person who doesn't want to be white.
@NiekeAkosah-jv5ft
@NiekeAkosah-jv5ft Жыл бұрын
The price might not be the best way if someone is a con, putting a high price so the naive buyer will think it must be the real deal (unless it's a reputable jewelry store)
@canadiantraveller281
@canadiantraveller281 Жыл бұрын
Take a hammer to it. Best way to find out what is inside ( I'm talking gemstone beads "
@TsetsiStoyanova
@TsetsiStoyanova 6 жыл бұрын
He didn’t say $hit
@MrWhisperASMR
@MrWhisperASMR 8 жыл бұрын
So basically there is no easy way to tell real from fake.
@corners3755
@corners3755 8 жыл бұрын
a magnifying glass or a hot needle
@pandrawellman9458
@pandrawellman9458 6 жыл бұрын
Evilos yes there is
@MrTNorris67
@MrTNorris67 5 жыл бұрын
I have been researching it a bit. This video was very vague in regards to telling natural turquoise from imitation turquoise. Less than 12% of natural turquoise does not need stabilizing Natural Turquoise is stabilized by soaking it or pressurizing resins or acrylic compounds into the pores of the stone, resulting in affordable, higher quality stones and finished jewelry. 90% of the Turquoise on the market is actually dyed Howlite? Howlite is an absorbent white mineral that can be dyed in almost any color The hardness for Howlite is 3.5 whereas the hardness for most turquoise is 5-6. this is kind of a difficult test, so basically if your stones scratch easily then they are more than likely dyed Howlite. If your Turquoise is dyed the acetone qtip method might damage your stone so do it on a part that does not show. If blue comes off on the qtip- and the stone has a lighter or white spot-it is probably howlite that has been dyed.(the inside of the stone will still be white) Rainy days are not good for this scenario, for it can lighten your turquoise. The Price is usually the best way to tell if your turquoise is natural or has been dyed . If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is. a strand of perfectly matching amazing blue Turquoise beads In nature would be very difficult to find a bunch of Turquoise beads that have exactly the same color. Find someone you trust, find out where the stones came from and do the above tests. (fire will ruin imitation turquoise so I would use the acetone method instead)
@msj.randel1496
@msj.randel1496 4 жыл бұрын
You can't have a hot needle at a store..when looking to buy torquoise..
@rodicapopescu2038
@rodicapopescu2038 4 жыл бұрын
Yes there are ways to tell the differences between fake and real stones
@JeffAPierson
@JeffAPierson 2 жыл бұрын
It is always hard for technical experts make things simple, but his explanation imho is spot on.
@SufiKingdom
@SufiKingdom 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t learn how to identify real vs fake Turquoise.
@alirezapanahie9253
@alirezapanahie9253 3 ай бұрын
the best is from iran .
@dainusmc
@dainusmc 9 жыл бұрын
WTF is this? Doesn't say anything about how to tell the difference.
@barberess
@barberess 9 жыл бұрын
Ugh waste... you misrepresented the content of this video, irony.
@Personal-Opinion-
@Personal-Opinion- 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@e.lycopersicon9720
@e.lycopersicon9720 6 жыл бұрын
Please change the title of this video to "chatting pointless but amicably about turquoise"
@rohtati1020
@rohtati1020 4 жыл бұрын
The close up cameraman can't handle/focus well. It's like he's recording with a cellphone!! 😅😅
@rodicapopescu2038
@rodicapopescu2038 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful exposition of materials and gem stones ! Unfortunately we leave this video as we were at its beginning, confused, without knowing how to differentiate between custom turqoise and gem stones.. :((
@judichristopher4604
@judichristopher4604 6 жыл бұрын
He did not answer the question.... "How do you know what is fake and what is not fake.." He was talking about "Natural" etc... what and how the shop sells it... that still does NOT tell us how WE can tell what is REAL and What is FAKE...
@rhondaserges5136
@rhondaserges5136 3 ай бұрын
Because unless you have the set up to ID stones, it is a guessing game. Buoyancy, weight, color are all part of stone identification. Unless you travel with a mini lab set up, it is a guess.
@biggergurlthanu
@biggergurlthanu 8 жыл бұрын
This article said nothing how to spot real from fake...hot needle test, if it's fake, it will melt. Can also do the acetone test with a q-tip, if the color rubs off its fake.
@sandybeach368
@sandybeach368 5 жыл бұрын
thank you !!!
@katielyb
@katielyb 5 жыл бұрын
Actually it said everything about it. The only way to know for sure is to buy it from a highly reputable source that can provide documents backing the stones mining source.
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 5 жыл бұрын
And if it passes both of those it's real, right? lol You learned nothing and now spread your ignorance to others...
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 5 жыл бұрын
@@sandybeach368 - Don't listen to comments, listen to the video again. Their is plenty of 'fake' turquoise that passes both those tests. As well, if it gives off color to an acid it means it is 'dyed' not fake, and if it has melt-like qualities it may still have a fair amount of turquoise in it. It is a complicated process to identify some stones, it's not an easy one line answer. The only test that is acceptable professionally is a chemical test where they grind a sample into powder and expose it to different controls to determine the exact molecular constitution of the rock. This constitution along with the crystalline structure is how gemstones are classified and named and therefore identified.... But guess what, Ms. Becky, nobody selling you a stone is going to let you poke it with hot needles or rub it with acid.
@joycemccrory1392
@joycemccrory1392 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted an answer to the question. Thank you Becky Carlson!
@lylychhay8085
@lylychhay8085 6 жыл бұрын
He gave an ambiguous answer
@patriciahogan829
@patriciahogan829 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think he answered the question very well.
@patriciagreer4829
@patriciagreer4829 6 жыл бұрын
The interviewer is a real dork..constantly interrupting and not allowing the man to answer.
@IR-yd5bp
@IR-yd5bp 6 жыл бұрын
The best Turquoise comes from Iran . After Barbara Walters interviewer Shah of Iran , Shah gave her a Turquoise and Diamond Ring for $1.000.000.00 .
@sharonstromley9350
@sharonstromley9350 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Sleeping Beauty Turquoise from the now closed Arizona mine is of equal value in its AAA form (having no matrix in it.) Quite lovely with a color comparable to its Persian cousin.
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 5 жыл бұрын
@@HYEpower You're as pathetic as Trump. Get over your obsession about Hillary and get a life!
@HYEpower
@HYEpower 4 жыл бұрын
@Christigoth no shes cia... most news outlets are cia... thus that is dead on bribery.
@roxannedavies5690
@roxannedavies5690 6 ай бұрын
I think people in the business, like said expert, don't really want the public to know certain "secrets" as it can impact the sellers bottom line.
@streetqueenshadow5880
@streetqueenshadow5880 8 жыл бұрын
Proud Navajo.... not a problem for me! 😂😂
@glenrose2357
@glenrose2357 6 жыл бұрын
Shannon Begay-Nelson how do u tell real from fake
@nomorepc2431
@nomorepc2431 6 жыл бұрын
Shannon Begay-Nelson I knew a Begay in the military. Great friend. Years ago.
@oleanderpink4505
@oleanderpink4505 6 жыл бұрын
My metalsmithing professor worked for a company in the 1970’s and 80’s that sold fake Navajo and Hopi jewelry ( made in Los Angeles) to shops in Arizona and New Mexico. Most Navajo jewelry is fake and most Navajos don’t know shit about Indian jewelry.
@michswags
@michswags 5 жыл бұрын
HA!! Fabulous!! Shannon!!
@mcsc730
@mcsc730 5 жыл бұрын
Oleander Pink you’re 100% correct
@victoryoneable
@victoryoneable 6 жыл бұрын
So many people here bitching because he doesn't actually say how to id. But as he said, it's very complicated and for the ordinary person the best strategy is to make the retailer describe the stone on the receipt. That way they have evidence if they discover later that they were misrepresented. There are so many treatments and simulants it would take a lot longer than the time he was given to explain how to separate them all.
@phillipmatlock7384
@phillipmatlock7384 Жыл бұрын
Hell I didn't know turquoise was so expensive that it had to be faked lol smh...
@49mara
@49mara 9 жыл бұрын
It was a slippery explanation.
@mayurireddy8196
@mayurireddy8196 6 ай бұрын
Nice video on different types of turquoise
@nancyloomis3046
@nancyloomis3046 Жыл бұрын
This video some 9 years old. There was no mention of the word “stabilized,” something he may have mentioned, but didn’t use the word. “Stabilized” is what I heard about in other YT videos that most of the turquoise being sold these days is. The way way I heard it explained in other YT videos is, basically, that it is is a process by which pieces of real turquoise are pressed or fused? together, then filled with a resin of some sort to make the desired size and shape of stone.
@chwoonie
@chwoonie 5 жыл бұрын
To make a loooong ass story short. ***Tip: put a lighter to it. If it burns it’s fake. 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@honeybsweetnectar1713
@honeybsweetnectar1713 6 жыл бұрын
This guys not stupid, he really didn't want to tell you how to distinguish a real stone from a fake but he's on there to promote his book. Just go to a library or do you research on the net
@Shyruban
@Shyruban 3 жыл бұрын
About 90% of turquoise on the market these days that is not plastic is actually dyed howlite, how lite stone has been used to imitate other stones for quite a while now, it is usually white and can be dyed easily, some howlite ''turquoise'' is really well made and they even imitate the stone matrix in it. Still made of stone but not turquoise. If you have howlite jewelry, what will happen is if the stone is in contact with your skin and sweat, the color will gradually fade. When I see a piece of turquoise that is in fact howlite, I can tell right away, even from a photo if it's not all blurry. But most people buy howlite jewelry and have no clue.
@bellamasri3683
@bellamasri3683 6 жыл бұрын
I nearly didn't watch this due to the negative comments....I'm Thinking that you don't understand English that well because this was very very informative he answered all the questions or maybe there are to many trolls!
@timothysherwood9395
@timothysherwood9395 2 жыл бұрын
Next time call someone who has an actual answer
@carolynfoster3807
@carolynfoster3807 5 жыл бұрын
He hasn't mentioned the Sleeping Beauty turquoise mine known for clear high quality stones. Useless video.
@MK-ih6wp
@MK-ih6wp 4 жыл бұрын
People in comments suggesting we only buy from reputable trusted sellers & that we insist on seeing the documentation proving where the stones originated from... what about folks like myself who inherited pieces from deceased relatives, or received jewelry as a gift? I can't contact the person who sold these pieces to grandma 40 years ago, and I also can't afford proper testing by a gemologist...
@ellabanana438
@ellabanana438 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a necklace made of torquiose stones from pakistan. if the stones are left alone for quiet a long time, the color is bluish green but when the stones are rubbed by the hands, the color gradually changes to blue and the "veins" are showing boldly.
@elmerkilred159
@elmerkilred159 Жыл бұрын
Stabilized turquoise is still turquoise. It HAS to have a resin in it to harden it up so that it can be cut. Most people can't afford gem grade turquoise, and you're likely never to see it unless you mine it and/or work with it yourself. It's expensive because it is scarce. Most of the turquoise on the market (if it is real) is stabilized. The majority on the turquoise on the display in the video above are stabilized.
@MsGrannyGo
@MsGrannyGo 5 жыл бұрын
Here goes my two cents, and not worth a penny more because I'm NOT a gemologist. This news report is old but it did give some hints into "natural" turquoise which you would consider the real deal! I buy Turquoise but not "natural" because of the expense. Turquoise in its natural state, as nature made it, once cut and polished by a professional can cost in the thousands. Natural turquoise maybe worked or cut into cabochons, or whatever. The price is up there with expensive gems and sad to say I can't afford. So I buy "real" turquoise from a dealer - it comes with a certificate indicating the mine it originated from. REAL Turquoise is made from NATURAL turquoise -- this is treated and processed by some of the methods described in the video, to form nuggets, rounds, cabochons, this turquoise is no longer in its natural state, but it is still considered turquoise. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, this "real" turquoise is still expensive, I pay $70 dollars for a strand of small nuggets. I purchase real turquoise at a gem and mineral show I attend in San Jose, CA - gemologists with a microscope are on hand to examine. They encouraged me to always seek their advice since they eject corrupt sellers who make false claims, such as howlite being turquoise. So only a gemologist with her/his equipment can identify if plastic, synthetic, real, or natural. Some artificial turquoise can look very good but if the price is too good to be true then it is. Some of the comments below add interesting ways to tell if the turquoise is fake. The only thing I would never do is stick my gem in the fire to see if it melts only because I've heard some gems can explode. That being said, I do not know if this applies to turquoise, but I hate to test this theory on a good piece. Artificial turquoise is also made from other minerals that will not melt.
@salahji
@salahji 3 жыл бұрын
I was not believing anyone so i by myself visited Iran from Pakistan and mined/Dug 2 stones for my self. It is Neshapuri Turquoise natural. One i am wearing in ring and one is for sell.
@silentstorm2239
@silentstorm2239 4 жыл бұрын
The nutty professor
@tkaishmael
@tkaishmael 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like he still didn’t say how you can tell the difference. Waste of my damn time
@alexaez2946
@alexaez2946 4 жыл бұрын
Don't think he even know how to differentiate between real and fake turquoise - okay okay imitation I get it
@corners3755
@corners3755 8 жыл бұрын
After all that he still didn't explain how to spot a fake/imitation. Btw fake turquoise would melt and real turquoise would burn
@desireewadsworth9230
@desireewadsworth9230 7 жыл бұрын
Billy Corners what happens when it burns?
@trigongroupintl
@trigongroupintl 4 жыл бұрын
THOSE ARE DESTRUCTIVE TESTS NOT USED IN GEM IDENTIFICATION AND CAN ONLY IDENTIFY ONE FAKE FROM ANOTHER FAKE OR TREATED STONE...PS REAL TURQUOISE DOES NOT BURN! IT GATHERS SOOT ON ITS SURFACE LOL ...JUST LIKE ALL POLISHED STONES...A MORE ACCURATE "INDICATOR" WOULD BE THE COLDNESS OF A STONE, AT ROOM TEMP. A NAT. STONE FELLS COLDER THAN A TREATED STONE AGAINST THE SKIN...PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE TOUCHING OF MARBLE IN ROOM TEMP. STILL FEELS "COLD TO THE TOUCH" WHILE A FAKE WOULD FEEL ROOM TEMP...SEE MY EXPLAINATION ON HOW TO TELL THE REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2 ABOVE.
@MK-ih6wp
@MK-ih6wp 4 жыл бұрын
@@trigongroupintl Thanks I will take temperature into account when assessing my collection
@SuperKiddles
@SuperKiddles 5 жыл бұрын
part of the problem is this guy is so knowledgeable and ethical that's the only way he knows how to answer the questions and in 5 minutes, really? however the turquoise expert would make a great politician he is able to fill up time without much applicable content
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 8 жыл бұрын
Not enough detail given in my book, just a quick overview basically. He should have gotten more into the manufacturing process and compared side by side the differences by feel, look, hardness etc....
@jisaac5589
@jisaac5589 10 жыл бұрын
O.k. but you didn't teach us how to tell if its being misrepresented so we don't buy plastic stuff etc...
@TheEnAheL
@TheEnAheL 9 жыл бұрын
NO..he didn´t..BUT..I can try ;) Stone are NOT sensitive 2 FIRE..it migt crack if U put a hot stone in cold water tough..PLASTIC are sensitive 2 fire..put a hot metallic needel/nail on the stone (warm it on the fire in a lighter) FIRST ASK THE OWNER (seller)..if the needel will melt down into the "stone"=THEN IT SURE IS PLASIC..U will probably get a hole..from the hot needle (my native lainga is not english..but..did I make sense?) If it is genuine stone=no hole..U need a drill 2 do that
@jisaac5589
@jisaac5589 9 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me...Thanks!
@TheEnAheL
@TheEnAheL 9 жыл бұрын
I DID FIND a fake one (the price was telling me that) NOW I BELIVE IT´S BETTER.."just 2 trow the turqouise-stone in a fire"..IF it will NOT melt=REAL TURQUOISE (yes..I burnt my fingers on the hot needel..eventough I used gloves ;)
@TheEnAheL
@TheEnAheL 9 жыл бұрын
j Isaac Pleace DON´T TROW A TURQUOISE IN A FIRE..I was just angry for burning my fingers on the hot needle AND I did find this info about the stone haveing water in it..WILL CRACK IF TROWN IN FIRE..not melt..BUT CRACK..see video "Turquoise Destruction Test with Fire" (MagpieGemstone.com onKZbin) I also found a turquoise neckless at a seconghandstore (it looks real..feel cold as stone does..doesn´t melt..I did try abit with fire on1stone ;)
@jisaac5589
@jisaac5589 9 жыл бұрын
TheEnAheL LoL...its OK I didn't...
@joaniewg
@joaniewg Жыл бұрын
This man basically was interviewed for over five minutes and never explained how to tell the difference between fake and real. If the chalky fake is filled with resin or glue, it will appear real. Therefore, the question is still open... Did I miss something?
@violetjane7152
@violetjane7152 5 жыл бұрын
The real way to tell if you turquoise is fake is to apply nail polish remover to it if if it rubs off it’s fake.
@TAnd-nq6if
@TAnd-nq6if 4 жыл бұрын
Turquoise is my luckiest color
@jaynadinnyes1675
@jaynadinnyes1675 5 жыл бұрын
Years ago I bought a turquoise and silver ring at a gem show for only $9.00.. Everybody seeing it commented on it as it looks like old turquoise. A few years later the stone was scratched on top. It was totally white inside! I repaired it. Be careful when buying turquoise from India! Right now I order fake turquoise and silver rings very cheap from China on eBay with free shipping. Total cost is not over $2.00 ea.. The rings look very good and very REAL. Some fake turquoise has a bogus looking webbing. I disguise it because seeing it gives it away that it is FAKE. Use q tips and markers. After coloring the stone wipe it off with the q tips. Work with it until it looks REAL. Then I like to put a coat of clear polish on the stone. These rings are great looking and CHEAP!
@sallymay3643
@sallymay3643 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing was said on how 2 tell real turquoise from fake.
@moussaouizineb4746
@moussaouizineb4746 5 ай бұрын
Oh my God,Love this jwellery,alott ❤
@geebrewer8186
@geebrewer8186 2 жыл бұрын
why do I feel like I wasted time watching this as the so called "expert" really didn't answer any questions???
@rsantrach
@rsantrach 6 жыл бұрын
He said the lighter the turquoise, the less valuable it is. That might be true overall-what about Dry Creek turquoise? Is Dry Creek turquoise cheap and less desired?
@allaboutroofing2
@allaboutroofing2 2 жыл бұрын
"generally"
@WRI2012
@WRI2012 5 жыл бұрын
To all those saying this info is worthless you missed the key point of the interview. The key word is "natural". If a dealer is selling "natural turquoise" it will "ALWAYS" come with documentation. Real turquoise does not mean "natural turquoise". If it has been stabilized for hardness or compressed from pieces it is still real turquoise but it is not "natural turquoise" as it has been altered by man. On a side note dyed howlite is fake turquoise that is often sold as real turquoise.
@1234567890solrac
@1234567890solrac 6 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL STONE THE TURQUOISE !!!! En Rosario, Argentina, el artesano y joyero Daniel Leonori realiza preciosos trabajos con turquesas !!!
@badsantaclaus4522
@badsantaclaus4522 6 жыл бұрын
A fake is not a real gemstone it is art!. No ifs or butts!!. Makes the miner/cutter/Jewellery their value time an labor not worth nothing and consumer will not appreciate the real beauty!.
@merichamarais9539
@merichamarais9539 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Still don't know how to distinguish between fake and real. Disappointed
@HelpfulRebelsTV
@HelpfulRebelsTV 7 жыл бұрын
how come you didn't show examples of real versus fake?
@allenalsop6032
@allenalsop6032 Жыл бұрын
And when did he tell us how to tell the real from the fake?
@denniswhite664
@denniswhite664 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh. I thought the word "identify" was the main topic. "IDENTIFYING"... didn't happen????
@tiffanyrain5071
@tiffanyrain5071 5 жыл бұрын
Never answered the question
@marleneantonelli5433
@marleneantonelli5433 3 жыл бұрын
The question was not answered- how do you tell if turquoise is natural or manufactured? My guess is put a flame to it????
@blucheer8743
@blucheer8743 Жыл бұрын
After all that blabbing he didn’t say “how” to identify real turquoise or what to look for! Of course they will tell you it’s “natural” geez us
@carloscarrillo6595
@carloscarrillo6595 3 жыл бұрын
So I know that is real Turquoise when the seller tells me it's $17000.00USD for the stone...? Wow....! I learned so much about spotting fakes now...!
@Oruboris
@Oruboris 6 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of help for the consumer, I'm afraid-- especially when buying from estate sales, etc.
@katielyb
@katielyb 5 жыл бұрын
What none of you are seeming to understand here is that buying high quality semi precious gemstones is just like buying diamonds, emeralds, rubies, or sapphires. You can only determine it's actual value by buying from a seller who's able to provide documentation that states where the stone was mined. If you can't tell plastic from stone or read a label at a craft store then you might want to ask someone in person about it. It's relatively self explanatory otherwise. Or, you could just not buy gemstones from just any random person you run into on the street because that should be alerting you to a possible scam anyway. You don't buy your prescription medications out of the trunk of someone's car right? No, you go to the pharmacy. It's the same principal people.
@sharonprudencio988
@sharonprudencio988 5 жыл бұрын
o...k that didn't explain anything
@lindamannix1247
@lindamannix1247 Жыл бұрын
I bought a purple turq laced with reg blue turq ring ! So beautiful
@1234567890solrac
@1234567890solrac 6 жыл бұрын
Usando una lupa se vé la porosidad y el aspecto ceroso de la turquesa natural, que no lo tiene la pasta sintética ( plástico ) ni la diversidad de color ni las vetas irregulares. El talentoso platero rosarino Daniel Leonori realiza maravillas en plata y turquesas.
@carmenortiz5294
@carmenortiz5294 3 жыл бұрын
That is as unhelpful as it get! If you call it real, then it's real?????
@danvango
@danvango 3 жыл бұрын
thank you very helpful, I found alot of Turquoise from the tailings of The Magma copper mine
@corksauve4949
@corksauve4949 3 жыл бұрын
Might be turquoise, or it could be Chrysocolla, malachite or azurite.
@Ange777ify
@Ange777ify 4 жыл бұрын
I did not learn a damn thing.
@harveythompson1756
@harveythompson1756 Жыл бұрын
Not a word from the white man in white, about the huge importance that turquoise has to the First Nations, and indeed the Tibetans ;....its significance , its powers both physical and spiritual and how it was worn as adornment dating back to thousands of years.
@DonnakinsJewelry
@DonnakinsJewelry 5 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? This is a real waste of time because I I still don't know how to tell "imitation" from "natural."
@debzyj376
@debzyj376 3 жыл бұрын
So how do you identify fake ? 🤷🏼‍♀️
@vidamilani5347
@vidamilani5347 3 жыл бұрын
No information on how to identify natural gemstone turquoise. Just talking and talking.
@MrTNorris67
@MrTNorris67 3 жыл бұрын
he is the worst “expert” ever
@whobru
@whobru 3 жыл бұрын
Camera guy must have been new...could not focus on close ups for jack.
@RUSIKful
@RUSIKful 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, he is So sweety Pinocchio
@enelra4271
@enelra4271 5 жыл бұрын
Well that helped me know what fake turquoise looks like.......NOT.
@kigakiku2011
@kigakiku2011 5 жыл бұрын
what a useless interview. we didn’t ask for a moral interpretation of what constitutes “trickery” and what doesn’t, we asked how to identify the difference between natural and non-natural turquoise
@naninuna7440
@naninuna7440 5 жыл бұрын
no wonder i like spiderweb turquoise so much
@sunnyscott4876
@sunnyscott4876 7 жыл бұрын
Actually I think it was a very clear explanation .
@tinafisher
@tinafisher 5 жыл бұрын
so, how do you KNOW if its FAKE when your buying an older piece of jewelry and the certificate is no longer WITH the piece because it was bought 50 years ago and passed down. We want to know how to IDENTIFY natural vs manmade. DERP
@hardikdhameliya3428
@hardikdhameliya3428 4 жыл бұрын
He was not interested to give any information. Lol
@ChromeMan04
@ChromeMan04 Жыл бұрын
17k for a piece of turquoise? Lol what?
@Pamelina1111
@Pamelina1111 6 жыл бұрын
So basically if it says it’s real , it’s real. Thanks a lot
@nomorepc2431
@nomorepc2431 6 жыл бұрын
Pamelina says No that's not what he said. Certified Natural is what you want. If it says real then it could be anything like small bits ended together.
@jesscolliflower5531
@jesscolliflower5531 3 жыл бұрын
Nice rock presentation.. now how do we not get scammed? Wear a lab coat and glasses??
@purlofgreatprice1
@purlofgreatprice1 4 жыл бұрын
I think the title was misleading.
@laughinglion7659
@laughinglion7659 5 жыл бұрын
Useless, I'll go by weight if it feels like a rock it's a rock.
@marcegalbo
@marcegalbo 4 жыл бұрын
it was obviously too RUSHED of an interview to answer all questions well - Natural means how the rock came out of the mine. FAKE is related to: a different stone that is made to look like turquoise= for example Howlite is a NATURAL NOT FAKE stone BUT if it is colored/dyed to look like turquoise and sold as turquoise (which is pricier) then it can be called FAKE. ALSo, whenever they process turquoise and add dyes, or plastic, waxes and oil the is NO LONGER all NATURAL !!-- Some imitations and processed Turquoises are TOO GOOD to spot with the naked eye or for someone who is not a real conocetour on the business of crystals, gems or fossils... I'd say your best bet is to ask for a certificate or check with your local gemologist. (I look for color stability - 90% of what is in the market nowadays is dye Howlite )
@stellannie86
@stellannie86 6 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the answer on how to identify a fake..
@danyaanbostic1778
@danyaanbostic1778 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is fake turquise dealer.
@cherylpemberton1676
@cherylpemberton1676 5 жыл бұрын
CLICKBAIT!!!! NO ANSWERS!
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