Ido Portal: The Science & Practice of Movement | Huberman Lab Podcast #77

My guest is Ido Portal, the world’s foremost expert on human movement. Ido has spent a lifetime studying, combining and evolving elements from an enormous range of martial arts, dance genres, athletic endeavors, and science, to develop a unified theory and practice of movement called “The Ido Portal Method.” Here we discuss all things movement, including the role of the nervous system, reflexive versus deliberate movement patterns, and the link between emotions and awareness in movement. We also discuss learning and neuroplasticity, the mind-body connection and how movement itself can be leveraged toward expanding other types of skills- cognitive, creative and otherwise. As one of the most sought out teachers of movement alive today, the knowledge Ido shares in this conversation can benefit everyone-children, adults, athletes, dancers, clinicians and trainers and the everyday person.
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Ido Portal, Movement & Movement Practice
00:03:30 AG1 (Athletic Greens), ROKA, Helix Sleep
00:07:49 What is Movement?
00:10:56 Movement & the Body-Mind Connection
00:14:47 Entry Points to Movement
00:18:08 Early Education in Movement: Awareness, Play & Examination
00:21:19 Stillness, Movement & the Environment, Playfulness
00:31:34 Unique Postures, Types of Movement, Contents vs. Containers
00:40:50 Discomfort: Marker of Movement, Failures & Learning
00:47:05 Movement Diversity, Squat Challenge, Injury, Movement Evolution
00:56:36 Animal & Human Movements, Gain & Change
01:02:04 Core Movement, Emotion & Memory, Spinal Waves, Evolution
01:12:39 Song, Dance & Complex Language, Movement as Language, Consilience
01:21:39 Movement Culture, Community, Collective Knowledge, Wild & Wise
01:26:36 Potential for Movement, “Humming”
01:32:18 Instructiveness vs Permissiveness, Degrees of Freedom
01:35:50 Variety, Diversity & Virtuosity
01:38:06 Vision & Movement, Focus & Awareness, Panoramic Awareness
01:48:28 Hearing & Movement
01:52:43 Walking Gaits
01:56:55 Playful Variability & Evolution, Improvisation & Openness
02:03:05 Reactivity & Personal Space, Touch & Proximity to Others, Play & Discomfort
02:18:13 Visualization & Experience, Feedback
02:20:14 Linear Movement & Movement Investigation, Examination
02:31:45 Zero-Cost Support, KZbin Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous Supplements, Instagram, Twitter, Neural Network Newsletter
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Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - www.blabacphoto.com

[@piyushdwivedi7195]

Sir, your podcast is a blessing.

[@tristanschmidt_sw]

*podcasts

[@nonebelievingbeliever3753]

You actually understood what Portal said? Really?

[@captain_cook1622]

@@nonebelievingbeliever3753 Sounds more legit than sadhguru ngl xD. But on a serious note, you have to practice any kind of skill for a very very long time to understand what the fuck Ido's on about. I can totally relate to what they're discussing coz I have a sports background since childhood.

[@BrandonSL500]

@@tristanschmidt_sw "A podcast is a program made available in digital format for download over the Internet."

[@fantasyfilters580]

Touch butt with that dork in the park -nate Diaz 😂😂 Ido knows his stuff but that's still hilarious

[@Olddognewtriks]

At the onset, when Ido somewhat rejected questions with the rejection of "language," I thought "uh oh. This is going to be hard." But, wow, this conversation evolved into a beautiful inspirational combination of biology and philosophy. I literally went into my home gym and played with movement. He is definitely a virtuoso, as are you, Andrew, not only in biology but also in leading conversation. So respectful.

[@SaturnoMovement]

What a beautiful collab. Such an amazing time to be alive!

[@SlobosReality]

Could not have said it better 🙌🏼

[@jessemeyer7488]

'o' i stay moving thanks to you!!

[@alioxinfree]

Well holy crap: Saturno school I love finally says hello to a brilliant popular scientist I follow.

[@christopherreynolds9254]

On a specific point that Ido makes.. I now work for fairly long periods in a squat position when gardening and cleaning, and it really has opened up my hip flexibility and eliminates knee and back pain. I got this from him 🙏🏻

[@mimig6511]

i cannot get into a full squat....any suggestions to improve this practice?

[@ninja8flash742]

@@mimig6511 there are many tutorials but basically improve hip knee and ankle rom, and if you have tried or its not enough try different stances like wider feet placement and feet pointed further out

[@sunshinesunshine6130]

I would love to hear you interview an expert on the lymphatic system. Thank you for your amazing podcasts. They are life changing.

[@user-vd2gi5xq1e]

Bump

[@lauralockie]

I took a Yoga class the day after Thanksgiving, and the teacher had us do almost all twisting postures, supine, standing, balancing and more. Joanna Elkhoury told us, that the twists would help with our digestion, because we probably had overeaten. At the end of the class, I felt like a child! It was amazing, hard to describe and has never happened again. It was so physically freeing. Just thought I'd share a unique experience of movement.

[@nyyts]

As a fellow skateboarder, thanks for providing this conversation. The concepts of movements and movement, human interaction through a movement activity, moving being a type of language, really got me to think how they relate to skateboarding, and why it and the people in the community feel like they do. Plenty to digest.

[@TaroIwamoto]

Thank you for posting this! I just finished listening to this wonderful interview. I love both Dr.Huberman and Ido Portal. As a Feldenkrais practitioner, I can definitely see how the work of Moshe Feldenkrais has influenced the work of Ido Portal. As Moshe Feldenkrais said, movement is life. life is a process. Improving the quality of movement will improve the quality of life. Movement practice done with curiosity and without rigid goal oriented mindset can lead to endless discoveries and possibilities = neuroplasticity in practice!

[@reverplusgrand]

And we love your videos Taro. You work has helped me become a lot more aware of my posture =)

[@jacquelinemartin6723]

and now right on track with ANAT BANIEL METHOd

[@TaroIwamoto]

@@reverplusgrand thank you!!

[@deniseb2571]

Hi Taro! Love your channel too 👍

[@TaroIwamoto]

@@deniseb2571 Thank you!!

[@TheArizonaRanger.]

This is going to be one I pause and come back to when I'm in the right frame of mind. I am used to the Huberman Lab podcast being with guests who are very concise and to the point. Whereas here Ido Portal tends to obfuscate the subject in a philosophical way. It'll take a bit more concentration for me to absorb.

[@mikeuptegrove]

Well put. I think you’re being very generous however.

[@SP800.69]

The idolatry frame of mind? I tried to listen to this a few days ago... And jeez, this was "cringe," as the children say. I'm still thinking about it! Ha. Whatever underlying philosophy is present under the "guru" veneer sounds quite fascinating, but I have never heard someone so full of themselves dodge the most basic questions. I spent 40 minutes trying to "hear" this guy and came to the conclusion that he is too self-absorbed to have the humility to talk to someone (this was my first impression). Like many people in the business of peddling philosophy and self-improvement, it seems like the more ambiguous, abstract, and indirect you make yourself out to be, the "deeper" it is. And this has nothing to do with the underlying philosophy. Speak to Kipchoge. If anyone can talk movement, it will be someone who can run the 100-metre sprint in 17 seconds--and then sustain this speed for 2 hours. And is generous with his discourse.

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@SP800.69 I felt the same way for the first 45 minutes. It did get a tiny bit better. But again, you describe my sentiments, exactly, with regard to this interview.

[@zorzstankovic4364]

I bet Conor McGregor fired him cuz he was annoyed by his philosophy even if you ask him how are you Ido he would go on and on about universe and shit

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@zorzstankovic4364 ha ha. Yeah man, it’s funny how the more you dance around a topic abstractly, the more credit you’re given as an expert. What I like about Drew is that he’s the opposite: he demonstrates by demonstrating. Bob Marley once said something like, “if you can’t explain it to a baby, then you don’t know it”. The first 40 minutes here were painful to listen to. I get tired of this notion that nothing is anything, language means nothing, we need to forget about definitions, etc. That kinda of philosophy, is the pseudo-intellectualism, that’s destroying our civilization before our eyes. It’s throwing out the baby with the water whilst shitting on our ancestors achievements. I’m tired of it, as many are.

[@dannykidwell4271]

I’m an artist and I draw movement (I call them motion blurs)- it’s like my thing I’ve developed in the art world. The other day I was gonna suggest this podcast and I’m so glad this happened!

[@RiverPaisley]

The entire cubist movement is based on motion.

[@alfonsobordi3805]

I loved it when he said: „the lower tech your tools are, the more high tech your body is“. I’m going to tell that to my ballet, contemporary dance and yoga students 😅

[@thandokhumalo4922]

'the more low-tech your tools are, the more high tech you are'.. That hit home🧘🏿‍♂️🌱

[@jmetcalf6350]

Comment not specific to this episode, but. I am kind of a redneck. Small town Nebraska/SouthDakota raised. 45yrs old now. Fortunate to have a job where I have ample time to listen to podcasts & audio books. Discovered Huberman on Rogan. I have listened to every episode. I have benefited greatly from the information put out by Andrew. I feel like I have found a resource I can trust. I share episodes with friends & family all of the time. Thank you for the time you invest in making this information accessible & relatable to a pee brain working man like me. Truly in debt. Podcast in general, & particularly this one, have changed, & improved my life.

[@TheBioneer]

What a clash of titans!! Two of the absolute best in their fields and a wonderful conversation. I think what Bernstein and the degrees of freedom problem also highlights is how every movement is different. The perfect racket swing must take into account different angles, momentum, posture, and even clothes. Hence practicing multiple variations of a movement under different contexts is beneficial. A single kick one thousand times... Each a little different! And in regards to movement predating language and cognition I love the theory of embodied cognition/semantics. Thanks again for sharing such an inspiring and enlightening convo (as always)!

[@whitefang9758]

Hi Adam

[@jamesr2936]

You're the king Bioneer. Love seeing you comment on this video, we are all learners for life.

[@shaked1233]

Understanding Ido's metaphors is extremely hard. But his passion to movement is really felt through his words, and that is very captive. Good one Andrew.

[@rider65]

Yeah I think he's intentionally vague to try to cut out a niche for himself honestly I mean I said it before the guy is very knowledgeable and he's very experienced at his craft but he's a bit of an ego trip you have to really read between the lines because if you take it at face value he seems very humble but somebody who is really good at what they do cannot be humble all the time that's just human nature

[@bobbobson4030]

Ido Portal attempts to develop his movement capabilities in as wide a domain as is possible. This involves developing all the core physical attributes (strength, speed, power, coordination e.t.c) and afterwords more subtle ones such as softness, timing e.t.c In order to do this, he always looks for his weakest area and deliberately devises tasks/challenges/practices to develop here. The reason why he can seem to sound vague is that he is much further along the path than most so that it is difficult to relate. Like a child that has never heard of math being thrown into calculus class. I would advise reading all his posts online, beginning from the oldest posts where he talks of more basic topics such as getting stronger and advancing to more complex topics from there. Hope this helps.

[@ankitjana9027]

@@rider65 it's the way you see it I think. I feel he is grounded and tries to stay meditative. He is trying to create a positive space for Andrew as well to dig deep into the moment.

[@stretch1807]

I think he's a poet. From that perspective, it's easier to decipher his musings here.

[@mimig6511]

I felt that too. A niche certainly and an intelligence and intellect but also a huge ego. I thought Andrew built on that and did not let it throw him....which oooooh in a teeny way I felt Ido was trying to do that. I have watched and read him for years. Fantastic concepts etc but I feel the friction of his superiority. Maybe I need to examin myself huh?? @@rider65

[@EnergyAnn]

I have enjoyed all of your podcasts but this one is especially exciting. As a Bioenergetic Analyst I work in mental health in all the ways Ido is talking about. I help people connect to their basic impulse(s), relieve those blocks on movement, find vibration, communicate without words, etc. His philosophy speaks to my heart! As you've said Dr. H, the ANS is the unconscious mind! And Ido knows how to access it! Very exciting. I recommend if people are interested in using movement to heal trauma, anxiety, depression, to find a Certified Bioenergetic Therapist and start moving!! And, as you exemplified, we are in constant moving relationship with one another ✌️❤🙏

[@sluggo3slug]

Ido and his companions changed my life 7 years ago when I was 50 years old. They’re an incredible bunch of people!

[@jessruhl24]

I love what Ido says at 31:22. I was a professional classical ballet dancer but developed a disability because of type one diabetics and have mostly stopped dancing. I'm going to start looking at movement practice with more creativity since the container of classical ballet as I have always known it isn't available to me anymore. I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you.

[@cthornton523]

I was a dancer. There was an accident. We can find joy in movement again. I'm holding hope for us both, my friend. Sending love from an internet stranger. 😍

[@XShollaj]

Good luck guys - hope you find a path to channel the happiness through not only movement, but also meditation and taking care of your bodies through healthy diet and sleep

[@Itsunclegabby]

Please look up Cyrus Khambatta and Robby Barbaro. They are both diabetics helping others manage their symptoms with diet. :)

[@mfischer387]

My reason for movement is the Huberman Lab podcasts. 😊

[@ogmoiz]

Finally! I've been waiting for this one for ages.

[@moving.monkey]

Me too hahaha

[@HappytreeLuis]

How so? Does Andrew announce future guests somewhere or did you think Ido was an inevitable guest?

[@Moiez101]

Yoo Moiz. I was going to post the same thing.

[@renaissancestatesman]

Man has mastered guru speak.

[@hansmachado5994]

Thank you Andrew!!! For having invited Ido. The living "Movement" on a "first person perspective" is so paramount... and yet so rare in our discussion circles. Your choice for Ido was specially valuable. On the "types" of movement... I feel MUSIC in a core element of movement. Not in terms of listening to music... It's something much more fundamental, like Luria's "Kinetic melodies"... The way that tonus flows within the sense of movement, rythm, dynamics, background posture and foreground voluntary movement, "frases" and the "story telling" that animates the movements of our ACTIONS. The whole orchestration of the flow of tonus in the living canvas of our neuromuscular systems! Movement than goes far beyond space and brings a kind of coloring to time. I see and feel music in there, in here. Well.... THANK YOU AGAIN, Dr. Huberman, for all!

[@hankporcher7948]

I have listened to every one of your podcasts and look forward to Mondays. I could not get past 31:00 with Ido. I am glad it helped others, just seems like the tailor that made the emperors clothes. I liked him better when he was playing touch-butt in the park. Thank you, again, for all that you have given the community.

[@KatiePerrykperry1226]

I also wasn't able to complete the episode. I was so incredibly excited about this one too.

[@pedroferreira2062]

I get that, Ido's deconstruction of his own philosophy makes it harder to gain interest.. He also captivated me more in the McGregor phase, when his ideas where more digestible and practical.. Still, lots of wisdom in this pod, especially after the first rounds. Maybe you'll give it another shot 😉

[@cascott01]

Same. Between the accent and the abstract thoughts I couldn’t engage. Am I mistaken in hearing him say he wasn’t planning to answer any of Andrew’s questions pretty early on? Seems a strange comment in an interview.

[@hankporcher7948]

@@cascott01 I heard him say that he wouldn’t answer questions and that’s was the beginning of when i started to feel like he enjoyed the obfuscation (to prove his superiority?) rather than the sharing of info.

[@Nemop11]

@@hankporcher7948 I think he is trying to provide answers that are more like an entire target versus just the bullseye. He answers things in a squishy nonspecific way to demonstrate there is a whole area not just a specific point.

[@allangraham3649]

Thank you to yourself, Ido and all involved in helping making these podcasts happen. Peace

[@allangraham3649]

Half way in and allready i know ill listen to this one twice ahah

[@barbarayorkwoodside3716]

This was like watching a volleyball game in very slow motion. One lob over the net and a beautiful, gracefully positioned lob back with soft gentle fingertip control. Just fantastic content. I’m going to be 60 soon and do HIIT training. I’ll really have to explore other options as well. I was preparing my chuck roast for the crockpot while I listened to this and decided to dance my way around the kitchen ❤️

[@stacielivinthedream8510]

❤ beautifully written ❤

[@ironsideeve2955]

Golf 😊

[@PracticalHealthNow]

I have a lot of respect for people who keep their promises. At 12:10, Ido said that he would try not to answer any of Andrew's questions during this interview and he did exactly what he said! No questions were answered directly :) Though still a good discussion.

[@beereeet3950]

You’re not wrong.

[@fallenIights]

This guy Ido is a con artist

[@piccalillipit9211]

Im at 25 minutes and I have never been more annoyed by an interviewee in my life - Ill keep listening out of respect for Huberman

[@anms2023]

@@piccalillipit9211 Hopefully Huberman will learn from this mistake of interviewing a con artist like Ido.

[@piccalillipit9211]

@@anms2023 - I genuinely could not listen to enough of it to make a decision on Ido one way or the other - just that he drove me insane...

[@kanikagupta4953]

Glad to see some unconventional guests coming on your podcast. Ido is on a different level if one hear his words. He was sharing some serious spiritual philosophy while talking about movement. Mr Miyagi of movement !

[@paulojleite]

I’ve been moving my whole life without any experts involved LMFAO how’s that even a thing??

[@arete7884]

@@paulojleite but u cant intelectually explain it

[@Damngirl10]

Finally! The man the myth, Ido is one of my favorite person i have met and had the privilege to train under. Thank you for having him on!

[@mikeuptegrove]

The first 50 minutes drove me crazy as even philosophically it seemed like we were entirely avoiding, “movement”, as something that even exists. The interview got a lot better after we were able to get passed the idea that there’s no such thing as ideas and actually discussed some ideas.

[@worthy81]

I believe you missed the point sir. Flow in peace.

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@worthy81 nah, I don’t think I did. But thanks for making a statement that you didn’t have time to back up with a rational explanation that could’ve swayed other people to your, “enlightened”, view point.

[@worthy81]

@@mikeuptegrove 😃😃😃 your funny. Live in peace.

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@worthy81 I feel the same way about you, it’s hilarious actually, that the random guy, who is, “in peace”, is telling others they misunderstand things without believing he then has a spiritual obligation, when portraying himself as an ever enlightened being, to give a rational explanation/justification/argument to persuade others of his enlightened validity, after taking the time to project a certain image of himself in public forums…it’s as if the rest of us are just waiting patiently for such a guru to grace us all with his opinions. 👏👏👏 a real beauty bro. 🤣🤣🤣

[@bobbobson4030]

Ido Portal attempts to develop his movement capabilities in as wide a domain as is possible. This involves developing all the core physical attributes (strength, speed, power, coordination e.t.c) and afterwords more subtle ones such as softness, timing e.t.c In order to do this, he always looks for his weakest area and deliberately devises tasks/challenges/practices to develop here. The reason why he can seem to sound vague is that he is much further along the path than most so that it is difficult to relate. Like a child that has never heard of math being thrown into calculus class. I would advise reading all his posts online, beginning from the oldest posts where he talks of more basic topics such as getting stronger and advancing to more complex topics from there. Hope this helps.

[@mao8861]

Thanks Huberman for this podcast. I really liked every second of it and I am also on the same page with you that Ido is indeed special and wild and wise. I also very much liked the word you used to present Ido which is the intellectual. Listening Ido’s thoughts on movevement and life itself is always fascinating and makes me to find new angles to feel the world from other perspectives. I am happy and grateful to know him. All the best.

[@Appleloucious]

One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀️☀️☀️ 💚💛❤️ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

[@hubermanlab]

Watch a brief clip of Ido Portal teach me the fundamentals of movement: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH7dhZuNfdBnebM

[@SandersonRin]

Nice! Never thought so deeply about movement before this. Would be pretty cool to see your neuroscientist analysis of practicing mental improv or improv comedy as well.

[@elkisa6223]

I appreciate this offer of knowledge that ties together so much of the scientific and the romantic , acknowledging the whole essence of a living being. Fascinating. I can’t say I understand everything but the parts I do recognize , stimulate my mind and motivate me to reflect more deeply about practical ways in which this knowledge applies to life. Thank you 🙏 for sharing

[@Wopperific]

What a uncommon way to think of and examine movement. Very mystic, holistic and tribal even though he has all the scientific knowledge and understanding. So interesting that he retains such a ‘fluid’ perspective but it fits with his message on this podcast. It was refreshing and informative. Thank you again Dr. Huberman.

[@alioxinfree]

YES. It took a year but you finally investigated movement practices: the best ones. Ok, you've renewed my interest, Huberman. Thankyou. 👏🏽💜

[@sophiabui1036]

I would love to know about how body dysmorphia and skin picking disorders relate to a Movement practice, and how for some people there’s an inability to be aware of your own body without any physical or mental discomfort, anxiety, or fear (a whole episode on this would be great). What Ido describes seems to be a pathway out of such discomfort that I find super promising. What a fantastic and unexpectedly enlightening episode!

[@zeinabeidas805]

very imp to address how movement relates to body realted concerns and eating disorders. lamost always left out

[@lezlieobrien]

Start moving your body and the brain will follow. Give yourself a real focus/goal and it will start to move you out of that collapsed/anxious place. Hope that’s helpful

[@lk_specter7861]

Thank you Mr Huberman. It's always interesting to see the faces behind the voices! Greetings from Germany

[@kazuurk]

Anytime i listen to a ido portal interview/podcast/ anything i instantly feel more coordinated 😂

[@kimmyers8056]

Wow! I am thrilled that I do experience what I call spontaneous yoga or flow-ga and I understood exactly what these two men were discussing. It’s a beautiful state of being that has changed my life. When I feared the movement, I lived in constant pain and suffering. I was so afraid of moving because many times when I did, I was hurt. I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome, hyperadrenergic pots, and numerous emotional and physical traumas, and my body has suffered incredibly for most of my life. Now I welcome the movement with joy and love and most of all, curiosity. I feel like my body is unwinding the past with such grace and ease, and I am amazed. I feel like a dancer has been released, and I never knew that was ever possible. I think my life has started over. At 56. Thank you! Thank you!

[@estherdeangelis]

WoW....how Amazing that you have discovered a beautiful and curious way through moving your body to free yourself of the past....flowing & flowering 🌸🐝🐿🦄🐉🦋🌸

[@jennacorre8084]

G’dmorning Andrew! Probably hear this millions of times daily, so here it goes again! Great video! So intriguing! Very informative!Thanks for sharing!

[@pedroferreira2062]

25 minutes in...I love how Andrew tries to get structured and practical advice but Ido just does a contemporary dance with his words and ideas.... Love the abstractions and hopefully we'll get moving to some practical guidelines...

[@Utopian22]

Sometimes I feel modern self help culture can drown us in practicality. Ido’s style of abstraction allows us to realise life is a process of discovery; that routine, standardisation and habits eventually fall short to life’s eternal nature. That’s where the fun lies. In improvisation, finding out new ways of doing things. But Ido is deep diving in the unknown right now, language can wait haha.

[@pedroferreira2062]

@@Utopian22 I think you're right. But there's also deep value in the capability for succinct structuring of ideas/practicalities, especially difficult ones. Andrew is a master at that imo, and that's fundamental for people like me to have at least an introductory understanding to whatever field of study... Now, that can be compromised, stupified and calcified... and that's a problem... Love Ido's abstractions, they're much needed and valuable explorations to help in this, but some are also some intelectual levels above practicality to begin with imo. I feel Ido's communication of his movement ideas is more balanced in this way in other interviews (for my own taste at least), so that the average guy like me gained the interest to put a foot on the door and stick around for more.... I guess I want to say that I would've liked that Ido answered Andrew's questions more directly, not so laterally, but I'm not complaining at all. Great pod!

[@KatiePerrykperry1226]

@@pedroferreira2062 this is exactly how I felt.

[@janetbyrne8197]

I appreciated Dr Huberman’s attempts at interpreting, clarifying, and steering the conversation toward actionable advice.

[@pedroferreira2062]

@@janetbyrne8197 yes, very helpful, but not easy on this one, especially in the beginning

[@jopo7996]

Ido Portal is the best name for a time traveler ever.

[@edehc]

Words can’t convey the gratitude that we feel for the people who make this type of content, instantly available, for free. God bless you all Fair winds and following seas.

[@nikaprusnik]

This was beautiful. Especially due to your willingness to openly and mindfuly ''take in'' what Ido had to say. I am in awe of the humblness with which you approached this discussion and your ability to ''translate'' and apply his conepts and practice based knowledge into a more scientific discourse.

[@patriciakimball8150]

Great to hear you two get into it like that. I loved the way you communicate with each other and with us. Wow. Thank you both!

[@aristsangarides535]

Ido is great! But maybe also consider interviewing Professor Rob Gray from Arizona State University on topics related to perception action coupling, anticipatory control of movement, specifying vs non specifying informations, dorsal and ventral visual processing streams, etc. If you want to discuss Bernsteins, Gibsons, Brunswick’s, Dreyfus, Ponty’s, etc as it pertains to skill acquisition and development in a sporting context that’s your man.

[@scarred10]

That would be great nut ido is not in that leahue,hes a conman with no qualifications

[@yoloswagali2646]

Andrew is on another level.

[@justinklenk]

In my 47 years, I've sought out/stumbled upon/enjoyed/savored/studied - very, VERY deeply - many, MANY a highest-level and (necessarily, of course) extremely intelligent and nuanced long-form conversation between (or even among) masters and virtuosos who offer themselves and their focused, in-tune state of being to both themselves and their conversant, as well as of course any and all who listen. I do say - this discussion, between THESE two masterful men (who're, in addition to all else wonderful here, both seemingly ABOUT my age, judging from their beards), is indeed among the most IMPORTANT, enjoyed and savored discussions that I've ever experienced. Been playing it and rewinding it, minute by minute, all day long now. THANK you, Ido and Andrew - for the content, the style... the _nature..._ of your reflective giving to the rest of humanity. These things echo throughout time and human experience.

[@amypotozkin7063]

Beautiful conversation - loved it! Thank you Andrew Huberman for your stimulating podcast!

[@arunasm11]

Great to see knowledge from experience and practice in a dance with the scientific knowledge. A very inspiring conversation!

[@emarekica]

This conversation was unlike anything I have listened to, a dance in and of itself. So much general language from Ido's side and masterful reaction and respect towards it from dr. Huberman. It was amazing to listen, even more than the actual content. I understand that Ido didn't want to give any protocols, but this one was so out of the ordinary Huberman podcast flow that I will have to listen to it a few more times. Thank you for this discovery, dr. Huberman.

[@stulee5314]

Life is a dynamic process, to bring awareness to this and how we orientate into reality, could be seen as evolved yoga.His awareness is inspiring!! We are in an unfolding dynamic process that requires attention, within this space is the potential to heal, to connect, into ourselves, each other, nature and ultimately into wholeness. There’s no frills with Ido, he’s zen without trying to be zen, he’s a yogi without trying to be a yogi. He’s learning to surf reality, this interview is rad !!!!! No pretence, just real-time.

[@BJJ_Richie]

22:25 I concur Andrew ..... Movement is life , and life is movement

[@beverlymanchester9823]

I love this interview. I appreciate the level of inquiry with a level of freedom that most people have not experienced. It is clear to me, and part of my personal practice to include stillness and the development of consciousness in a continuum of movement. I love working with my students with the Anat Baniel Method® and witness the flood of possibilities that result. I would like to suggest to Andrew Huberman interview Anat Baniel. She would be a fabulous follow up to the brilliance of Ido Portal. She studied with Moshe Feldenkrais for 16 years and was his personal assistant.

[@jacquelinemartin6723]

Absolutely Bev 🙌🙏. I have sent an email regarding bringing Anat Baniel on .

[@this-abledtheextravertedhe5299]

Being mindful of my movement has really helped me begin to recover from Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. I call it couch yoga 😂 I’m also legally blind now from optic nerve drusen 🙄 and brain swelling from the RMSF. My 🧠 is doing much better. Thank you for all the great information 🤗

[@tinacardona5404]

Fantastic conversation! I am grateful for Huberman's ability to listen DEEPLY and to ask questions that allow the guest and he to dive more creatively. A way of central/spinal 'articulation' on the topic.

[@wer8990]

...also, get Bren Veziroglu on the podcast, a long time student of Ido, and to be honest, in many regards a more open thinker! As a bonus: he has studied/worked in two different labs at stanford, so basically a local ;)

[@ninja8flash742]

This would be nice

[@yashhgami]

Thank you for this! Will watch later in the evening. Movement quality is the foundation of most athletic ability, it's so underrated and underutilised. Ido knows his stuff. The 30 day squat challenge he conceptualised is a good starting point for older individuals and those new to mobility exercises. Sitting in a deep squat for 30 minutes a day for 30 days can transform your flexibility and improve your neuroplasticity in regards to squatting which is a fundamental human skill (doesn't have to be in one go.)

[@mariekay3718]

Used to do this in volleyball but wasn’t aware :)

[@HaydenGladstonePT]

This is a treat. I haven’t heard much from Ido online recently (surely for good reason) so this is extra special

[@xpressotel]

Your constant conversation and informative discussions that you selflessly share with the rest of the world is priceless, I imagine there are many of us that have made amazing and positive changes as a result of this discourse,much appreciated. It is people like you that deserve the accolades for giving back to humanity.

[@Roger-tv7sf]

Been following ido since his touch butt days with McGregor

[@chriscyborg2187]

Waku waku 🍭 This channel is such a blessing. The topics which doesn't even comes to our mind yet so important for the same. Thank you good sir.

[@RosyRosieRose]

Beautiful comments on gratitude and why we absorb the weird looks. We want easy Huberman, but you've shown us that our drive and motivation, what we can do will add value and allow us to be so much more. Our potential, possibilities and experiences are endless. Happy exploring this gorgeous landscape of movement, thank you beautiful movement men.

[@SilverStarGG]

One of the best episodes I've ever listened to. Truly grateful for you and Ido

[@gillc6131]

When he talked about walking around Hong Kong without bumping into anyone, I must admit my reaction was "but that's just how women walk all the time". There's been studies done on it: women move out of the way, and men expect people to move out of their way. I'm surprised that someone who is supposedly an expert on movement hasn't noticed this.

[@OrionPhilosophy]

Great content again! Thanks

[@andreaslynen6113]

Thank you.Ido is truly one of the greatest🙂

[@colleenmoore978]

I stumbled over an Ido video years ago and found him to be wise and intuitive about the human body and human nature. I’m so glad that he’s making more video and coming on new channels. His perspective is so unique. I’m 60, and when I hear him talk about movement I feel empowered to move despite my age. Movement is not just for young people, it’s how we stay young mentally and physically. His mother practices his method as well. If you have him back, invite his mom. I’d love to hear her thoughts.

[@alexandherarchondo1056]

It is amazing how this man says things that make you get goose bumps in almost each line he says. Very smart to have invited him to your "lab", he added a perfect component to your project. Congrats to you and thanks for letting us know him.

[@Ellam_Therinjavan]

Can only catch few points here and there that makes sense to me when Ido speaks. Anyone else feel the same way?

[@beopenminded1800]

yes, many REAL intellectuals think that! But the AH is too much in love with him, to see the truth,

[@bobbobson4030]

Ido Portal attempts to develop his movement capabilities in as wide a domain as is possible. This involves developing all the core physical attributes (strength, speed, power, coordination e.t.c) and afterwords more subtle ones such as softness, timing e.t.c In order to do this, he always looks for his weakest area and deliberately devises tasks/challenges/practices to develop here. The reason why he can seem to sound vague is that he is much further along the path than most so that it is difficult to relate. Like a child that has never heard of math being thrown into calculus class. I would advise reading all his posts online, beginning from the oldest posts where he talks of more basic topics such as getting stronger and advancing to more complex topics from there. Hope this helps.

[@AhmedBodhi]

The convergence of nondual philosophy, biology, and pragmatic takeaways... loving this podcast more and more!

[@JediMastersclub]

Wow, Huberman and Ido Portal. Two masters of two different worlds.

[@jameskaufmann765]

I was struck by how Portal would take Huberman's questions from a meta-perspective and avoid niceties in sharing his point of view, often questioning the question itself. Huberman, in turn, found a remarkable grace that I think most folks would not muster. This was not just a meeting of two very different humans, but of two contrasting worlds, and I for one am left with a wealth of exciting possibilities to explore.

[@stretch1807]

Yeah, he's a poet.

[@Theo-ul8qm]

The geek in me is compelled to say that at 57:05, I think it’s geckos that you’re referring to - walking up walls - and not chameleons:) Incredible conversation!

[@mitchelsnodgrass7028]

Could you comment with some sort of citation, or something, with certainty on this? Because it's pretty crazy

[@lcarcasses1]

I had to listen twice because it was hard to follow, but I am truly captured by this type of content. I remember his quote “I am not my friend” or “you are not your friend” as being the ONE thing that changed his practice forever. I think it’s similar to saying “we are our own worse enemy”. The struggle with commercialism, capitalism and so powerful that we fall prey upon it, hence this takes us out of the practice of movement. Lastly, I did get a lot about what Professor Huberman and ido portal we’re saying about variability (it’s life). Thank YOU. Replies are greatly appreciated.

[@beopenminded1800]

it is not hard to follow, it cannot be followed, because this man doesn't speak healthy and has symptoms of mental issues.

[@beopenminded1800]

As a medical doctor (neurologist and psychiatrist), whose job is to observe human beings, I have to share my Eindruck: I find this man not completely mentally in Ordnung. He shows symptoms of mental issues. I would be very interested, to discuss this further, if anyone is interested. He has little to no affect, and the speaking isn't normal. He could be damaging people, who goes eagerly to him, to "learn" He definitely should be examined by psychiatrists. Er lebt ganz offensichtlich in seiner fast wahnhaften Welt. Ob es sich bei ihm um einfach eine Grunderkrankung handelt, oder durch/nach Sunstanzabusus ist noch differentialdiagnostisch zu klären. P.S.: and dear Andrew, from observing you I'd just say: no matter how much enthusiasm you have for someone, TRY TO STAY OBJECTIVE. You were here like some innocent child listening to a guru! I would definitely NOT call this man an intellectual. At most smart.

[@coachcadden]

As a life long martial artist, (@1hr38), I very rarely plan sessions now. I assess who is attending class and we work on whatever is going to be the biggest value to the people that are there. This is normally planned after a warm-up/mobilisation. If I cannot decide and start getting too cerebral and overthinking, I will leave it up to chance and my unconscious mind. I will prepare everyone in sparring gear then drag one of my fighters out and say "throw a technique at me"..... Then, as a practitioner, I will work with options/counters/reactions from this one attack. A lot of people would say this is "winging it" but this explanation of virtuosity is perfect. Thank you

[@coachcadden]

The next question after this, when looking at how the eyes move, the gaze is in peripheral vision mode. From Huna (hawaiian spiruality) its called Hakalau.

[@harariprof8230]

Amazing Podcast! I Don't want to repeat myself over and over, but it is one of the best podcasts out there. I can't have enough!

[@janetmarmaro8269]

Wouldn’t you like to sit down with him for an hour or two?

[@harariprof8230]

@@janetmarmaro8269 Definitely, yes! Even though the podcasts are like 2 hours or so long, I don't feel them. It's like everything matters.

[@diegonavas7255]

I HAD to watch this twice today! Learned so much from this and definitely inspired me to keep learning more about movement and keep playing while working out. Thank Dr. Huberman and Mr. Portal! Lifetime of knowledge and definitely lots of inspiration

[@flowtoxxx]

Keep the playfulness alive!

[@apolloapostolos5127]

I was like, what’s the big insight here? Then it hit me, whilst Andrew Huberman 👨‍🔬 grew up in a research lab, I was a barista moving around all day, 🕺 goofing, 🎭playing, and making music by clanking cups, steaming milk, & closing refrigerator doors. ° Twisting and turning through crowds instill do this day. And dancing backwards down stairs. ° I would enjoy a trip through crowds with Idol Portal. May we knowingly cross paths one day. 🤞🤞🏹🤞🤞

[@sfiefinds]

I listen to your podcast while working out and I also listen to it until I fall asleep. I replay my favorite episodes for information missed. Really valuable stuff please never stop ♥️

[@ManojKumar-pe4wq]

Your Podcast are just exquisite.I am an MBBS aspirant and I am so curious about how human physiology,mind and nature functions. I feel so relieved to listen to you sir.Lots of Thanks 😊

[@saashakti]

Ido Portal is the Most inspirational person in my life since discovered him a few years ago. Thank you for bringing him on the podcast. What a treat !!! 😊💜🙌🍾

[@JackinJill]

I am humbled by how wise I am while still being just a regular Joe. I feel the respect of everyone around me in any interaction I chose to participate in. Squatting has changed my life, never forget that.

[@smartroller1545]

LOVE THIS!!! As a PT Feldenkrais teacher, I love this conversation that has needed to come forward. Thank you Ido Portal and Dr. Huberman

[@catherinerossba-fineartma-6619]

What a stunning conversation between you both. Together- you’ve offered so much intricate detail. This is an incredibly valuable podcast. The juxtaposition of detail, the use of terms, and the many concepts brought up in this graceful dialog. It’s truly thrilling to have this opportunity to be able to learn from you and the amazing guest that you invite to explore the many facets related to the brain/body. Thank you 💪❤️🙏👏🐛🦋

[@hibabelimi5328]

Very interesting topic. Can't wait to listen to. Thank you for everything you do.

[@mariamorris954]

Just want to add my thanks to you again for all you do. Gracias mil veces Andrew

[@suigeneris_1]

Dr. Huberman. Sir I vividly recall the moment during the Lex Fridman podcast that you decided to have one of your own to help humanity. I have been privy to the loss of Costello and witnessed your transition or rather evolution. Not as a scientist but as a conversationalist. As a podcaster. You have helped millions with the wealth of your knowledge and your immense research and sense of purpose. But with this one I felt you have allowed yourself to be vulnerable as a human being, open to possibilities. I applaud you Sir for this momentous undertaking to bring science to humanity at no cost. Thank you so much. Thank you.

[@laracamp2627]

mornin huberman nerds💚💚💚

[@honey4clover]

Possibly the most philosophical convo so far…truly enlightening that it elicited so much thoughts beyond physical movement and interactions🙏🏼

[@oilikaekoile]

Thank you for getting an interview with Ido! He certainly kept his word to not directly answer any questions asked :) and he really did give a lot of ideas. His public work from 5-10 years ago is much more concrete than he was here. It’s unfortunate if this is someone’s first exposure to him and his work. Despite how many may not follow this, Ido seems to be controversial to some, I appreciate the philosophy and the details both of you brought.

[@mariajamila_9435]

Thank you for your work! Future-episode ideas: 1. How to mitigate the damage of excessive chronic, traumatic stress. Assuming that a person is *unavoidably* in such a multi-year situation: --You have addressed dealing with trauma *after* it occurs; how about while it is occurring (external causes fixed)? --You have addressed reducing stress, often (not always) self-imposed; any suggestions in addition to breath control (thank you) directed to how to manage one's reaction to unremitting external stressors? --How to mitigate hypersomnia, or on the flip side, sleep hunger, even if appropriate amounts are achieved without apnea or external causes other than stress/trauma? 2. Avoiding liver damage when taking supplements. Or maybe appending episodes that mention supplementation with the why and how of protecting the liver.

[@karenscookingkorner]

Love the concept of the rocking chair for kids! Wow, this is such a unique perspective ! I love it

[@SlobosReality]

Best is not even have chairs 😁

[@immanuel3694]

Thanks for your work and service again Andrew! I was wondering: how do you pick your weekly podcast topics? Do you take suggestions from the fans? Thanks!

[@tylerbranch6082]

This is what modern day sages look like. So grateful I can listen in on these conversations.

[@EzEzEz369]

Andrew always finds the most wonderful mad men. I will need to listen to this one many times. Pranam. Bless

[@dreamweavings6946]

This was an amazing podcast! Thankyou, one of my favourites so far :)

[@Iammrslaw]

Hmm unsure what to make of this episode tbh. There were some interesting ideas for sure but the thread of conversation was quite hard to follow and quite jarring compared to the usual delivery, which I find fantastic btw. I suppose it does well to keep an open mind.

[@beopenminded1800]

As a medical doctor (neurologist and psychiatrist), whose job is to observe human beings, I have to share my Eindruck: I find this man not completely mentally in Ordnung. He shows symptoms of mental issues. I would be very interested, to discuss this further, if anyone is interested. He has little to no affect, and the speaking isn't normal. He could be damaging people, who goes eagerly to him, to "learn" He definitely should be examined by psychiatrists. Er lebt ganz offensichtlich in seiner fast wahnhaften Welt. Ob es sich bei ihm um einfach eine Grunderkrankung handelt, oder durch/nach Sunstanzabusus ist noch differentialdiagnostisch zu klären. P.S.: and dear Andrew, from observing you I'd just say: no matter how much enthusiasm you have for someone, TRY TO STAY OBJECTIVE. You were here like some innocent child listening to a guru! I would definitely NOT call this man an intellectual. At most smart.

[@taichiwithkatkroll]

Loved the discussion. Thank you! It was also great to hear Ido acknowledge the foundational work of Moshe Feldenkrais, one of the secret geniuses of the 20th century. Like Ido, he's the type of iconoclastic thinker and doer we need to study more today. He earned his Dr. in Physics at the Sorbonne and while working in the nuclear research program with Joliet Curie at night learned Judo from Jigoro Kano, the originator of Judo. Feldenkrais became one of the first Europeans to earn a black belt and he helped found the Paris dojo. He then went on to develop his own ideas, blending science, judo and human psychology. He developed over 500 movement lessons, ranging in scope from small movements of the eye to teaching a full judo roll. And his stated goal of his method was for people to "live their unavowed dreams." It's a great wish of mine to see a popular scientific thinker, like yourself or Lex Fridman, investigate the work and legacy of Moshe Feldenkrais. If you were to undertake it, I guarantee it would be richly rewarding for you and your audience.

[@telivizion3979]

Thank you Dr.H for showing us Ido