idols and the “shipping culture” 🤦‍♀️

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[@kriti3591]

it's nice to see artists exposing the stans like this lol

[@ssj-rose4572]

Lmao then they wouldn’t have any fans

[@Andrea-ie9vm]

@@ssj-rose4572 there’s a difference between a fan and a stan. A good amount of the time stans just go crazy about shipping and making sure that even though the idol is like over 20, that they should still be treated like they are 15. Fans are calmer (sometimes), who listen to their music, and watch interviews here and there. For summary, unrealistic vs in reality.

[@torr3n]

​@@Andrea-ie9vmwell said, you could say I'm a fan, because if I see that artists like each other's posts, my only reaction is "nice, there is some interaction"

[@Jinssoysauce]

@@ssj-rose4572 well they definitely don’t need “FANS” like that gurl.

[@nisanurlaela6129]

@@ssj-rose4572 hi kid

[@apatq]

you guys need to be respectful with shipping idols, it's always a mess.

[@l0vet075]

And make them akward

[@czenningmysugacookie127]

Or how about don't ship them at all

[@f4iryth964]

@@czenningmysugacookie127ong like its weird period

[@sannevandenheuvel5635]

I am a shipper, but I would NEVER send anything to the artists, yikes

[@lilybocreep7316]

When I first started getting into bts and kpop in general I thought ship meant good friends so I’d say “omg I ship yoongi and jhope together they’re so sweet” needless to say I was so confused when ppl came for my neck bc of that post LOL

[@yessica5231]

The guys with Ashley: 😨🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️✖❌ The guys with Ashley's dad: 😄🥰😍😘💖💓

[@EbbermanEmily]

"well no, I'm complimenting him" 😂😂

[@michelleramirez1656]

He is trying very hard to the fans NOT SHIP with her 😅😅

[@emilico698]

the side eye edits tho-

[@paco100x]

Ashley got them terrifying side eyes. Like the kind of side eye you hit enemies with. 😏

[@Rustydustyprofile]

Bombastic side eye

[@Catz1a]

Bruh I thought this short was gonna start shipping him with her dad 💀

[@ayazu515]

AYOOOO?! sweet home alabama (?)

[@vanefernandez7139]

a lot of wattpad

[@AyDotHam]

BAHAHAH

[@W-I463]

Me tooo💀💀

[@noaluvsvampires]

@@ayazu515 what 💀

[@selfish.machines]

ppl see a girl and a guy talk to each other and automatically wanna turn it into smth for their fantasies without realizing how disrespectful it can be, like these are REAL ppl

[@AniMin82]

Not just a guy and a girl. Often people ship two guys or two girls together as well.

[@selfish.machines]

@@AniMin82 it’s more common for it to happen with the opposite sex, from what i’ve seen ppl don’t do it as often with the sam sex bc of homophobia being present within the kpop community

[@muhammaddanishpranowo7498]

even just glancing and the fandoms will be like "OMG THEY'RE DATINGG" 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@powbobs]

@@selfish.machines You obviously don’t follow girl groups much. Stans act as if every gf member is gay.

[@powbobs]

@@muhammaddanishpranowo7498 To be fair Koreans are kind of like that in general. It’s very weird. Hence “the perilla leaf debate”, which would never be a thing almost anywhere else.

[@taestatamic001]

ashley’s “HIS dad??” just screams “bitch wtf” girl got really offended 😭💀

[@straightkidsareverynormal]

That's Bichna right there

[@joelleray4528]

I love how this all came back to how good Ashley’s dad looks. What a guy

[@destabiliseeeee]

lowkey could feel the pain in ashley's "see, peniel doesnt care about me" lmaoo the betrayal

[@vmrich]

It's funny that despite them telling how uncomfortable they are, you can still see comments of shipping on the main video and this short as well. Fans really dismiss their own favs saying as if it's nothing.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

Shippers don't care about anyone but themselves and their abusive behaviors.

[@thaolinhnguyen1047]

@@animec-dramaskpop6362They even twist all idols’ relationships to suit their fatasties.

[@kazunaritakao3763]

its the "peniel doesnt care about me" for me

[@Ray-td3jj]

No but in a 10 mins video idols look at each other for maybe 2 seconds and ppl make edits out of it. don't gaslight yourselves guys. Maybe they talk, maybe they don't. But don't decide that on a 2 sec eye contact clip😭

[@shaziiekay1688]

Bruh, like I don't understand why they force it so much 😭😭

[@jamya4316]

Jolly good fun though.

[@kai9749]

Yeah like... Do people not look at their friends or strangers when talking??? That's... A part of normal, human interaction? They're being human, that's all-

[@InvisibleRen]

Or of idols from the same company wearing the same items because they don’t realize company stylists have a collection that any one of their artists could wear/use at any time.

[@chococookie2181]

​@@InvisibleRen True and they don't even have to be from the same company since some stylists work with different companies

[@cvyyjg]

Shipping culture is just as annoying as canceling an idol for dating

[@yskz_staaa]

I absolutely do not like shipping culture. Imagine if that was happening to you on a daily for literally any interaction with anyone 😅

[@sodalite5294]

Well the difference is that companies tell singers get close to one another, fake kiss encouraging for those types of fans for more money. It’s called fan service, acting.

[@pongig]

​@@sodalite5294 yup, and their editors often "help" with that too 💀 like it's sometimes ✨painfully ✨ obvious how kpop groups' smm staff/editors are forcing shipping narratives in their content

[@sootekken]

@@sodalite5294 just bc the companies are trying to take advantage and use fans emotions to sell something doesn’t make it any less weird or disrespectful to ship real people imo /nm

[@kodiibearv]

it did happen to me irl actually 😭 i was close to a friend of mine in eighth grade, but literally EVERYONE in our friend group "shipped" us so much that it caused us to not be as affectionate with each other so they would stop. it really sucked bc they were a friend i had since kindergarten.

[@ghxsty_]

shipping irl people is a weird concept in general but to dm them is so uncomfortable and takes it to a whole new level of delusion

[@its_angelayang]

"his dad" 🤣🤣🤣

[@Chococat_Ariana]

Ph-1 mistakenly referring her as a "his"? Nah, they're homies for sure 😊 This ship 🚢 is a solid friendship 🤗

[@thebase89]

I really don't like the idea of shipping real people. It is a personal thing if you like or dating with someone, not ours. If an idol want to share something with us, that's great. Otherwise, it's not our thing. Some people will ship their idols with literally everyone and it's starting to get out of control 😅

[@absolutelynotarobot]

Be careful, some stans will rip your eyes out if you even imply that shipping should be left in the past 🙃

[@thebase89]

@@absolutelynotarobot ikr, that's why I'm digging myself a bunker now 😆

[@absolutelynotarobot]

@@thebase89 can I come? 🥺

[@thebase89]

@@absolutelynotarobot sure! Bring some snacks and we can watch the whole world burning 😆

[@absolutelynotarobot]

@@thebase89 lmao I love u for this

[@callmevitaaa]

Get Real need to talk about Toxic Fans, it will be interesting 🙂

[@BIBINIM1]

Shipping isn't nice at all, they can do whatever they want, it's their life

[@sodalite5294]

That’s what companies want, it’s called fan service

[@riyabiya4]

i dont think shipping is bad inherently, but shipping people to THEIR FACE is disrespectful and awkward. like you can see that it forces them to suddenly think through every action they do even when they're friends and that's just not cool

[@sodalite5294]

There has been singers stopped being close on camera cuz of such delusions

[@Sammmm85]

shipping was never a good thing. it's really uncomfortable and disrespectful to some idols. but crazy stans never understand this and they will never change. they even ship minors and sexualize them

[@riyabiya4]

@Gargi im gonna disagree because plenty of people ship discreetly and use those ships to creatively express themselves. i agree it can go too far and i dont think the idols themselves should really know about the ships because it can make them uncomfortable and overthink their own relationships. but i think most fans who aren't delusional and don't seriously claim or demand idols to be dating otbers don't do much harm, if anything they can enrich the fandom experience. and you can always stay away from things that make you uncomfortable. also i agree, sexualizing minors has not exceptions and is not okay. however romantic relationships don't have to be inherently sexual

[@clevanterskz]

I agree. If the shippers keep it to themselves, I see no problem with it. It’s natural to think, especially if they’re really close, “oh they would look cute together!”. Same with, especially young Kpop fans, to find a liking on an idol. To be honest, I don’t like the whole y/n stuff as it can get very obsessive and inappropriate, but if you keep it to yourself and be respectful, then whatever. I’m not gonna stop you. If the group or idol comes out saying they’re uncomfortable, then stop. For example, BTS’ Vkook. Tae has come out saying that he wants it to stop. So respect his wants. With the Y/N stuff, an example can be when a fan was wearing lingerie and making some comments to Stray Kids’ Han, and it was clearly making him uncomfortable. For one, that’s just a huge NO! Not matter how much you like that idol. A lot of groups are fine with being shipped with their own teammates, but not with other groups. Some could care less. Some idols play into fanservice, and some idols not so much. So yeah. I may not be a huge fan of shipping or into the y/n stuff, but if you are, that’s fine. Just keep it respectful and don’t shove it down idols’ throats.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

​@@riyabiya4 You want to creatively express yourself by USING REAL PPL!!! Have you lost your mind?

[@neri859]

I want to hear more about their thoughts on shipping culture, that a male and female idols can interact more and be friends.

[@urwnrwl5396]

No fr. Celebrities aren’t TV show characters that you can just ship with whoever 😭

[@wannabedrewafualo]

Your friendly reminder that public figures are not your Wattpad OCs

[@es-thetic]

Thats why i never like over shipping thing cuz sometimes its uncomfortable and i can see some of them make distance to each other (like members in group)

[@_B3aR]

Omg not the young dad part that me laugh so hard

[@ximenakokoro9899]

Why would you message one of them saying you ship them? I'm definitely a shipper, but I'm not going to flaunt that in front of my idols. It's fan made stuff for fans

[@jimbojimbo6873]

Alright you wanna tell us what else you’re proud of not doing?

[@aaronburrsir6347]

Why did I think this clip was gonna be ph1 accusing Ashley of having a sugar daddy LMAOOOO 😭😭💀

[@lanfanslostarm9784]

idk if yall even remember this but niel and c.a.p of teen top were shipped SO much eventually they pretended to be kissing to trick dispatch and were dming fans back like "we're gonna break up if you keep shipping us with other members" and everyone freaked out and stopped it was fucking hilarious 😭

[@chameleonrose16]

Is this real???

[@VKK45428]

I feel like the short title should mention her dad. The shipping thing flew right over me 😂😂

[@SadiaIslamShouki]

My dad is quite handsome, so my friends always compliment like this then I am like, "Yeah, I know Thank you 😌" my friends exactly react like this, "why you are saying thanks", "We are not complimenting you", "are you sure he is your real dad?"🙄😅

[@peacelife]

Love u guys chat so funny !!! "YOUNG DAD" "His dad" "Get Real"

[@mollaoka1413]

Finally Finally🤌 someone speak up about this. Guys..stop it.

[@taetaeboo1630]

"His dad" bro I was literally sad but this made me happy

[@ArieAGinting]

one doesn't care about her and the other one doesn't see her as a girl... Poor Ashley LOL🤣

[@bldramaseries_tele]

Lol....not just DIVE STUDIO making funny edits out of their own interviews 😂❤

[@scattypetty]

1st rule of shipping is never let your idol know.

[@igot7elf237]

It's funny how every celeb knows what and how their fans behave...Some talk openly and make their fans understand and some just don't do anything

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

Bc they are usually told they can't say anything about it.

[@igot7elf237]

@@animec-dramaskpop6362 When you're an older idol I think you should care less about your company and more about your and your fan's behaviour...Taking stand for yourself and talking with your fans when you feel is a must...Well maybe because 7 always do so I expect that from everyone

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@igot7elf237 BTS are so powerful bc they are so astronomically successful. Hybe is literally what it is today bc of BTS. Plus, they lucked up and got a CEO that isn't as traditionally strict as other CEOs from other companies.

[@igot7elf237]

@@animec-dramaskpop6362 Well I said 7 for GOT7 not bts cause honestly they don't even bother to talk with their fans about their toxic behaviours..Ik not all army but always an army that's toxic

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@igot7elf237 Oh, I thought you meant BTS bc there's 7 members in the group but the logic still applies. The more successful you are the more authority you have. Unsuccessful groups have little to no power to do as they please.

[@Kaastengels]

when people talk about toxic shipping culture in kpop they're mostly talking about boy x girl ships when in actuality, the toxic ones are usually boy x boy shippers from boygroups

[@frwsiittas]

YESSSS, EXACTLY

[@catwithissues535]

This clip can be taken out of context and can end up as harry x her dad

[@bellatrixisstrange]

the "his dad" part is so funny tho cuz maybe they are just so comfortable with ashley that she's kinda like one of the boys lmao

[@pheunchouk8361]

His dad is the funny part

[@virginiaperez-baez2445]

her dad looks young and ashley is amazing

[@Axiclett]

I literally love them😂😂

[@Hellokitty_391]

They're calling out the shippers i- 😭

[@oliviadaniellecooley7530]

Bruh, he said 'im not hot for you, im hot for your young dad' 😂

[@reddishsky8614]

He looks young and fashionable too! 😄✨

[@-ceejee-]

It's sad that they even not liking, bc of the hate/shipping....😮

[@josephpercy8772]

Why's everything gotta be romantic tho?? This is why idol groups can't interact with each other. Do better, shippers.

[@janggeurim3363]

bro he's so real for this 😂 he knew

[@SayLOVE1999]

I miss all of them so much. 😢

[@vaneabarca]

he got real

[@mjvidal143]

This is pure chaos I love it HAHAHAHA 😭😂

[@oikawascursedplushie9912]

Now people are gonna start shipping him with her young dad 💀

[@user-yj3gw8rr1b]

I hate those people shipping too. They literally destroy a perfect friendship. No matter what, these ships always have those awkward feeling to people you are shipping. And these could potentially ruin their friendship 😭

[@minaisfab17]

They're all so cool. This podcast really makes me appreciate them

[@seoshicreese6678]

Even Ashley's mom is young looking

[@istanhybe]

See Peniel doesn't care about me His dad Y'all she really is there homie she ain't no girl to them

[@marianemarangao2840]

It never crossed my mind that people would say shipping stuff to the person itself. I thought shipping was just for fun, wtf are you guys doing? 😭

[@khaoslee]

Yes ashley, give them the bombastic side eye

[@devvv4616]

Callee out the shippers 😂

[@ammmm_4803]

this short was so wholesome ❤

[@minhoshin7269]

"HIS" dad? lmao ashley is just one of the boys now

[@Shi_630]

Get real for real😂

[@Vor567tez]

When u r only girl u become bro 😂

"See, Peniel doesn't care about me". Peniel unbothered by that comment

[@Nicashinica20]

Hahahah harry and ashley looks cute together 😂

[@whitneydouglas4794]

Seems like they need to be shipping him with her dad. LOL!!

[@huldaadriyannah1633]

Y'all are such a vibe😂😂💀😭🔥

[@mccnbinnie9840]

It's sad hearing Ph-1 say it like that, I pray they can be happy and freedom like everyone else

[@CrazyDuvalina]

Sometimes I feel Ashley has to pass a patient test every episode😅

[@brainlessclown7288]

"Young dad"

[@clauclau1568]

They are sooo cooool. ✨

[@KiritoHamiltonKPop]

Y’all shipping stan need to get your hand off keyboard ASAP because let your idol live their lives. Let them chose who they date. Just be happy for them whatever decision they made

[@Lackie703]

Some ppl really need a grasp on reality. It's perfectly fine to go "I think those two would be cute together" but when you start obsessing over it and being like "omg they're totally dating bc of this and this and this" it's creepy and weird...

[@lalisalongstory7494]

I don't know why some people ship idols like if a girl is an friend with an boy shipping them can break their friend ship people in my school ship two girl and boy who are just frisnds and then their friendship is broken

[@naurwaybro]

it’s nice to see people saying 35 is a young age cause every time I ask my friends what they consider old, they say 35-40 and I’m over here so confused cause that’s pretty young. for me, I think being around the age of 55-60 is considered old to me.

[@delaninaa]

i love this crew hahdha

[@noni4315]

The whole "shipping" concept is so f'n weird to me. Maybe because I've been in a relationship for 3 years and I'm a grown adult? I don't even mean that in a rude way, it's just a theory. Like, I always assume "shippers" are mainly 13 year old girls who have never had a boyfriend or girlfriend. At least I hope so... because if adults are doing it, what is wrong with you? 😅

[@abdouyushino8239]

Ashley and peniel are friendship goals

[@ditaaprilia3956]

Peniel enjoyed it so much. 😂

[@leowright2251]

i can't imagine not being able to like my friend's stuff without droves of people shipping us, that would just make me sad a bit

[@_B3aR]

Wow young dad

[@minaluvs]

“i’m complimenting him” PLS😭

[@kiarapxz]

ash was like "bombastic side eye"

[@chium2383]

His dad cracked me up hahahahahaha

[@aeri_.]

the emojis make it more funny

[@mariat1976]

I ship Harry with Ashley's Dad LOL😂😂

[@DapperDubuOT9]

Ashley tho 😍❤️🔥

[@junminnie]

That pfft 🤣🤣🤣

[@anasofiame68]

Thats more suspicious 😂😂😂

[@kiler12827]

ThT is just pure SUS

[@renaigillespie2308]

Lmao it's not the first time one of them called her him 😭

[@vanessajabbour4659]

And thats y idols are afraid to even breathe.

[@UPTinaViray]

"Wait no, I'm complimenting im" "Yea but he's like my dad." "Pffft So? You didn't help make him." HAHAHAHAH

[@WenWenSi]

Sweet how Ashley said "I know (you are complimenting him), but he's my dad"

[@bimalsarkar5259]

The way she said "Guys💀" 😭

[@OptimisticFanatic15]

the disgusting fans being like “omg ahaha I ship” shut UP and keep it to yourself???????? you’d turn into a delulu stan if either of them had an actual date or relationship.

[@thaienthugurl_bl]

I glad they talk about it out.. bcs srsly shippers are getting out of hands and if people says these ships isnt real they going to fight back and says “you’re just jealous cuz your fave and blah blah blah” sometimes aa i really want to throw slippers at them, maybe they will realise how disrespectful and uncomfortable the idols is feeling.