IDPA LEGAL CARRY OPTICS - IDPA Beginners

Providing shooters new to competitive shooting or IDPA an easy and safe transition into the sport.
Robert Jones introduces you to what a Carry Optic is and what is needed to shoot it in an IDPA match.
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[@chadnelson2937]

Happy to have new content specifically tailored to IDPA coming out! Thank you

[@Kodreanu23]

Thank you for explaining all this. I am a IPSC newbie but looking to go in IDPA also. You can only imagine my surprise when I found out that CZP10F is not IDPA legal! Lucky me I didn't buy that gun already.

[@Mdsub101]

Informative video, looking at the weight & size specs on a Stacatto XC seems it's legal in IDPA carry optics.

[@rjracing9917]

Great video! Just a note, compensators are allow in IDPA in the latest division per appendix A.2.3.3… they just have to be screwed on, not pinned

[@PaulGee]

Thank you so much for that update.

[@PaulGee]

But we are in California.

[@PaulGee]

So please confirm with your specific state laws. Thank you RjRacibg!

[@micfasto8700]

You may want to double check that. It should read screw on not allowed. Detachable that are pinned not allowed.

[@aaronbrulc3276]

@@micfasto8700 you need to read the newest rulebook. they removed the wording on screw on etc.

[@williambarnette1049]

Good video very informative. Optics are dominating on the east coast.

[@PaulGee]

West coast as well…

[@tonym362]

Out west too. 6, 7 years ago there were 2 of us with red dots & we had to be in the SPD division. It was the same when we shot USPSA. Now, our largest division is CO. Over 50% of our shooters have an optic.

[@PaulGee]

@@tonym362 It was you! Thank you so much for the CO division! Without you all of us would be still shooting Bug.

[@tonym362]

​@@PaulGee Maybe we need a BUG Optic division 😅😅

[@PaulGee]

@@tonym362 coming soon. Rules, equipment details are being worked on. Not that I told you though. Rumors have it and all…

[@vassilis331]

Hey guys I know it’s an old video and maybe my question has been answered but can you run a milled for optic slide on a Glock for CO or it needs to be an MOS model? Also is stipling allowed in CO?

[@PaulGee]

I’ll get this to Robert. Standby!

[@First_time_idpa-outtakes]

Hi there @vassilis331! Thank you for watching and subscribing! to answer your question, yes you can run a milled/modified slide cut for a CO of your choice. Just know that whatever cut you have done and optic chosen needs to fit in the IDPA box specific for CO and make the weight requirements. Also, Stipling is allowed in CO and ESP. hope this helps!!

[@takeit4004]

Good to meet you. What kind of normal pistols are there Can you tell me what kinds of pistols are available for Glock 17 Glock 34 IDPA license? Looking for a gun other than Glock based on 9MM.

[@PaulGee]

Standard Service Pistols or SSP would include Glock 17 and 34. I’ll make a video for you this Sunday if you like?

[@takeit4004]

@@PaulGee Thank you. I'll wait for the video. Guns are illegal in Korea. IM need to obtain a license in Korea with a gas handgun and obtain an international license abroad with a real gun. Of course, I'm buying guns to prepare for that Koreans only use Glock 17 Glock 34 for Glock love. I left a comment to try a different gun. I'll wait for the weekend.

[@PaulGee]

@@takeit4004 I’ll do what I can for you. Please allow a week for the new content. Thank you for your patience.

[@steveohjr1987]

Great video. Can you have a comp on your pistol for carry optics?

[@PaulGee]

Yes but it needs to be apart of the barrel and not an appendage like a screw on.

[@steveohjr1987]

@@PaulGee Thank you for your help. Sorry one more clarifying question if you dont mind. So a Radian Ram Jet/After burner combo for a glock wouldn't qualify? It's not threaded onto the barrel, it is held by screw though. So it sounds like it doesn't qualify?

[@PaulGee]

@@steveohjr1987 better yet, I’ll have our team smith answer that, standby…

[@bluediver712]

Don't you think the IDPA regulations are a bit outdated with comparison to what is being produced nowadays? Regarding Stock Service Pistol Division (SSP) I have found that most of the brand new pistols: Sig Sauer P320 Legion (43.5 oz (1.2 kg)) , P320 X-Five DH3 (43.5 oz (1.2 kg)) or P226 are either too heavy or too wide. In addition some extra futures which are introduced by the manufactures to make our life better might not be allowed. I heard some people cut a bit their grip to let the gun fit into a box 😞

[@PaulGee]

I agree with you. With an industry controlled by law, public opinion and economy, gun designs remain fluid. However, trying to write rules for IDPA for this sport maybe worse?

[@inOZ8434]

I'm interested in trying idpa, but I don't really want to use an optic, for my carry either. My question is, do you need to have an optic or..?

[@PaulGee]

Oh absolutely not. Iron sights come in 7 other divisions! Shoot what you have, but try all of them when you can. You might find a treasure! Enjoy!

[@inOZ8434]

@@PaulGee perfect! Thanks again, really appreciate it 🙏

[@wildman1088]

When did magwells come back on IDPA? I thought they were not allowed.

[@PaulGee]

It’s been a while that ESP and CO, it is legal to use mag wells. SSP however, needs to remain Standard and unmodified. Great question thank you.

[@PaulGee]

1996 as long as it fits in an 8 3/4”x6”x1 5/8” box. Still looking for specific mag well mods in the appendix from 97-23. Stay tuned!

[@tenzoxed]

Hi. I have a cz shadow2 but I made it single action. Is it ok to run it?

[@PaulGee]

For a local match, absolutely! See if you like it, then worry about what division to shoot. Better yet, come shoot with me!

[@tenzoxed]

@@PaulGee I am currently shooting CO. Put a new sro on it. First stage had problems finding the dot. I was shooting a Glock with acss reticle for the last two match.

[@PaulGee]

@@tenzoxed expected. Check out my video tips on finding your red dot !

[@First_time_idpa-outtakes]

Heck yea!! Carry optics baby!!

[@PaulGee]

Go get some!

[@arnoldbrown4528]

Where on the IDPA web site did you find the sizing pad? Thanks

[@PaulGee]

Page 10. Rule 8.2.2 ESP/CO

[@PaulGee]

Under SHOP, however I see they no longer sell them.

[@arnoldbrown4528]

Thanks, I was looking under SHOP, thought I missed it. By the way, Great video!!

[@PaulGee]

@@arnoldbrown4528 much appreciated, thank you!

[@gorillagorilla398]

girl from idea said that they were pre 2017 and probably given with a membership

[@bigred06100]

Can you have grip tape/talon grip in CO

[@PaulGee]

A.1.3.7 says you bet your sweet rear end you can.

[@luisespinal7123]

So aftermarket triggers are allowed?

[@PaulGee]

As long as your gun is dependable and safe.

[@luisespinal7123]

@@PaulGee nice, I just got a x5 legion on a trade with aftermarket trigger which I want to use for idpa CO and wasn’t sure because of the aftermarket trigger

[@PaulGee]

@@luisespinal7123 please do your research with your gun. Sear slippage has been know to happen. Always have it confirmed safe by a specialist prior to use. Don’t want anything to happen to you. Good luck and be safe!

[@jonwillis9919]

Other than the obvious, does it really need to be this complicated?

[@stephenkarl1440]

Compensators are allowed in IDPA for CO

[@PaulGee]

Are you asking or telling?

[@stephenkarl1440]

@@PaulGee it’s a statement. They are allowed for ESP, CO, CCP, and BUG if they fit the box and make weight.

[@PaulGee]

@@stephenkarl1440 your amazing, thank you for the great info!

[@donwelchmusic]

It’s stupid. They should be doing at least 15 rounds. Who the hell carries 10 rounds in their gun anymore.

[@PaulGee]

Absolutely right!

[@pete-mz9vr]

CDP should be allowed to run optics.

[@PaulGee]

Mag capacity would definitely be an issue with only 8 rounds.

[@pete-mz9vr]

All divisions should be allowed optics. Regardless of mag capacity. The future of the shooting sports is optics.

[@PaulGee]

The optic division evolved from ESP, however enthusiasts such as yourself began experimenting with other divisions which are now evolving as well. But you will just need to follow the ESP requirements with your favorite gun, until a change may occur.

[@pete-mz9vr]

I do not see the logic allowing optics with single stack 9mm and not CDP? Again...all divisions should be allowed optics. There is no need for evolving.

[@PaulGee]

Single stack 9mm is capable of holding 10 rounds is why. To run an optic with a CDP gun is a great idea, but you will have to do it with an 8 round disadvantage. Therefore, I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t other than that? As for allowing a Specialty division in CDP, I’ll inquire with IDPA about their thoughts for you. Stand by.

[@BenderBendingRodrigue2]

If you want to go "fast" idpa isn't for you...