IDRIVEACLASSIC reviews: 1960s Vauxhall Victor

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Hard of hearing like me? This is the walk around chat...
Ask somebody today what they think of when you say Vauxhall and no doubt it’ll be something like the Corsa, but this beautiful Victor represents not only a different era of motoring but in my opinion, an era when a Vauxhall had style
The Victor name ran under Vauxhall from 1957 until 1976 and had been added to the range to fill the family sized car gap left by the Wyvern which was discontinued.
Although it’s quite interesting that whilst still appealing to the family car market, the Victor was 4 inches shorter, which goes against everything we see nowadays with cars getting bigger and bigger.
The designer of this car, David Jones, had been with Vauxhall for circa 20 years at the point of designing the Victor and was essentially given the brief to bring GM’s styling to the UK market - which is why this car looks like nothing else you’d see on the UK market at the time.
With several cars sitting under the Victor name, each one is given a series naming, so this is an F Series Victor, the first of the Victors and was made from February 1957 until 1961 although the FB Series Victor was launched in September 1960, so there is a bit of a crossover on the models.
The Victor was a massive success and sold an incredible 390,000 cars in less than four years and outsold the Wyvern it had replaced by more than 3 to 1 and was briefly Britain’s most popular export car - which may’ve been in part due to the fact it looks so deliciously American, taking styling cues from the 55 Chevvy Bel Air
But more on that later
Interestingly despite decent sales, it wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea and many conservative Brits felt it was a bit too American looking and flashy and the American buyers felt it was a bit small compared to the massive cars being driven state side.
Sadly despite selling a fair few units, there are very few left and this is actually the first early Victor I’ve ever seen in the flesh, although viewers at home have been requesting one of these since early IDRIVEACLASSIC days, so perhaps out of sight out of mind isn’t always true.
Coming back to the car, the 4 door we see here is the only body style - Vauxhall felt a 2 door or convertible wasn’t necessary and when the estate Victor arrived in 1958, a year into production, it welcomed the first estate/station wagon to the Vauxhall line up.
Coming back to that American styling cue again, the transmission unit on this is a 3 speed fully synchro on forward gear column change - although as you’ll see when we go for a drive it’s not the easiest I’ve navigated! This was a massive step up from previous Vauxhall gear boxes that hadn’t all come with synchro on first - making this a real step up from the Wyvern experience.
Although this is badged Vauxhall England, the suspension is borrowed from American General Motors and sports coil springs and double wishbones to front and hypoid axle on semi-elliptic leaf springs on rear. Unsurprisingly it’s on drum brakes all round and the car we test today hasn’t been changed from this - so we get the true driving experience.
For engine buffs out there, this is a 1.5 overhead valve and at the time of F series production, was the only engine on offer and gives us an impressive top speed of around 75mph and a somewhere in the region of 30-35 miles per gallon. Not bad for a car of this age and fuel consumption wise for the era, would probably be a little thirstier than something like a Morris Minor or Ford Anglia, but only by a touch.
Now with this being a popular export car and a favourite in overseas markets, it makes sense they were made abroad too so as well as production in the UK, they were also made in Australia and Antwerp, Belgium and if you’re watching this from abroad you may know this an Envoy or Vauxhall Voyager.
Now enough from me for now, I’ll hand over to owner Tom to tell us more about this incredible car.
#vauxhallvictor #vauxhallenvoy #vauxhallvoyager #classiccarreview #1960s #60svauxhall #classicvauxhall

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@ColinJaquesNarrowboatBuild
@ColinJaquesNarrowboatBuild 4 жыл бұрын
Was good to see this my dad had one in the sixties it was 3 years old when he got it . As the youngest I sat in the middle of mum and dad and my 3 brothers in the back .brought back memories of camping trips in Devon and Cornwall. Thanks for the video.
@mmwaashumslowww7167
@mmwaashumslowww7167 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you see this Colin 1year on. Similar story here, 1966 this was dad's first car. We went from Sussex to Devon with 7 of us packed in for a caravan park holiday. I was 9 at the time and remember it well. It couldn't manage steep hills with us all inside and we had to walk up to the top. Fond memories, great car for comfort.
@ColinJaquesNarrowboatBuild
@ColinJaquesNarrowboatBuild 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmwaashumslowww7167 thanks for posting, good to see the video again , all the best to you Colin
@hujjesb
@hujjesb 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad had one of these we went all over Britain on our holidays. Happy days me and my two brothers in the back seat . Me with the big road map helping Dad .
@jheath17
@jheath17 4 жыл бұрын
I was a apprentice motor mechanic in the 60s, my technical college arranged a factory visit to the Vauxhall factory in Luton. I was expecting to see the victor being built but when we got to line there where rows of Vauxhall Envoys being built, they were similar to the victor but with some styling different's. The guide proudly told us these these were the export version.
@DerekAyre
@DerekAyre 3 жыл бұрын
I owned one of these, 1959 model, back around 1966 (not long after passing my test) and drove it until around 1970. Exaclt the same colour as this. I remember how reliable the engine was and had trouble-free motoring and did my first repair (helped by a knowledgeable mate) and changed the clutch that I had nursed for around a year with a slight slip on hard acceleration. I then part-exed it with a '62 Hiliman Minx - another column change.. Thanks for the nostalgia..
@davidtong2776
@davidtong2776 3 жыл бұрын
What a neat little car. We can see that you really have good time showing us these old cars. Thank you so much.
@PaulinesPastimes
@PaulinesPastimes 4 жыл бұрын
In the late 60's my brother had the exact same model in powder blue over primrose yellow. I loved it and miss it to this day. I remember it being quite gutsy too. Thank you so much for this test. Brings back lovely memories of my late brother. Cheers
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Pleased it brought back some lovely memories Pauline. It’s amazing what a car can do to you x
@markwatkins8122
@markwatkins8122 4 жыл бұрын
An old car is just like an old song in the sense of the memories they can evoke.
@MattysCars
@MattysCars 4 жыл бұрын
You've given me a new found love for 60s cars recently. With the Micro car, the Plymouth and now this. Love the bright colours and design.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so pleased! It’s the best generation imo
@warmstrong5612
@warmstrong5612 4 жыл бұрын
The British answer to the tri-five chevys, nice!
@jefferysmith3930
@jefferysmith3930 4 жыл бұрын
What a bright cheerful color.... and your eye shadow matches the car! You don’t get that level of attention to detail on Hub Nut. Well done Steph!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I’m sure Ian would be overjoyed to have eyeshadow shades suggested to him 😂
@billg7205
@billg7205 4 жыл бұрын
US 50s type of color, along with the styling.
@jakebond2294
@jakebond2294 3 жыл бұрын
Hubnut doesn't even appear to wash for his videos! 😷
@glpilpi6209
@glpilpi6209 4 жыл бұрын
My friends parents had one in that colour , it was a Super I think , as they hardly used it and it was always garaged it never rusted away like the many others , and was still like new in the late 1960s .Nice video lots of nostalgia !.
@arthurfirth3366
@arthurfirth3366 4 жыл бұрын
I learnt how to drive in a Victor, big plastic "L" plates included. It was like I was stepping into the American automobile dream. The column gear shift made it feel like you were driving a tram. The gear shifts were like a boat hitting a wave, you had to take them slowly and smoothly. My dad took me night driving. It was magic to me, like driving a hoover vacuum cleaner with its bright headlights and robotic dials. It was a colorful encounter. The side 1/4 window could be swiveled to scoop air right at you on a hot day. The door left the wrap around windscreen intruding into the door opening. I still recall my first impressions of this car that was snobbishly looked down upon. To the little car that could, than you. A great cruiser.
@gryfandjane
@gryfandjane 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Steph! Nice to hear from you again. As a kid in the 60s, these Victors were a regular sight here in the St. Louis, Missouri area, USA. I was already a car nerd, so when Dad told me these were Vauxhalls, I associated the name with this model... they were the first Vauxhalls I ever saw. Kudos to Tom; he has a lovely survivor here!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh no way! I wondered how they’d gone down in America
@sambone8194
@sambone8194 4 жыл бұрын
These were sold by Pontiac dealers in the US from 1958-62. They weren't overwhelmingly popular in most areas, but they did sell well enough to justify their existence for four years. In 1961 Pontiac dealers received the larger and fancier Tempest, which was much more popular and easier to sell. That was the death knell for Vauxhall in the States, although Canada soldiered on with Vauxhalls and Envoys for a few more years.
@roberttucker805
@roberttucker805 4 жыл бұрын
@@sambone8194 you would have thought GM Ford and Chrysler would have had the resources to build everything for the American market at home rather than bringing them half way round the world! Most European cars didn't cope very well in the extremes of the American climate.
@markhealey9409
@markhealey9409 9 ай бұрын
​@@sambone8194Canada sold Envoy badged Vauxhalls throughout the 60s & a few in early 70s(only badged as Vauxhalls)
@richardagent1924
@richardagent1924 3 жыл бұрын
That brings back memories. My second car, a 1960 model bought for 10 quid back in 1970. Dark red which hid the terminal rust. It was a big improvement on the 100E Pop I'd had before. The gear change was fun, but you got used to it. I have no idea how the owners have stopped it rusting to death. Even the 29400 miles on the clock doesn't explain that, these cars would rust away in the Mohave Desert. Where would you find enough metal to fit seat belts? Brilliant find!
@rosskelly4200
@rosskelly4200 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks for putting me inside an F-series again! As a kid in Newcastle, Australia, I rode around lots with my Dad in the late 1960s in his *blue* Victor, which was getting a bit rattly and leaky *even then*! Holden built them in Oz, and I wonder if they actually did them full justice. Sweet and comfy, the Australian experience was that they were shortlived on our terrible roads of the time. So rare now, they are almost mythological! What a superb example the young man has found and skillfully returned to the road. It seems to me it is a very low mileage example. I have myself driven early Victors, and that column shift is way tighter than any I can remember. In my recollection, the lever moved freely - and even a touch sloppily - on our Victors. Huh... odd. Big boot! Cute instruments! In those days, "doing 60mph" was a rare highlight of the annual holiday road trip! There were only a very few roads in all of the city of Newcastle (Australia) where you could legally drive faster than 35mph. The 3-speed actually made a lot sense for the driving conditions of the day. But the downside on that holiday run up the Pacific Highway was cruising at 50-55mph on roads with a 60 limit. Not because it wouldn't go faster; but because the revs just got up to where you felt the car was suffering. And Ford Falcons, maybe a Valiant or a Chrysler Royal - and even the odd Cresta - climbing all over the back of the car for miles until the next widening of the skinny highway (as it mostly all was). Thanks so much:)
@PaulinesPastimes
@PaulinesPastimes 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect memories 😊
@d.w.j.1114
@d.w.j.1114 4 жыл бұрын
Being from the US, I look at it and see a car from the early to mid 50s & though I know it's actually a 1960, I can't get over how cosmetically original & unrestored it is. Beautiful car❤️. TY for sharing this one 👍🏾.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
@stevekaminski5327
@stevekaminski5327 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for a Pontiac dealer here in Pittsburgh Pa in the 80s that sold these in the 60s. We still had the parts catalog for them. You really see the GM influence in the styling. I thought they looked like a mutant 55 to 57 Chevy. My dad had a 56 Chevy that had the vacuum wipers. They sucked. Love your videos. I enjoy seeing these vintage British cars. Keep up the good work👍
@PaulLemars01
@PaulLemars01 4 жыл бұрын
HOW! How the heck is that Victor not just a pile of rust on the garage floor? That body is in fantastic condition. I went through you're walk around a number of times and I couldn't see a bubble anywhere. This is a very beautiful classic. Props to Tom for finding and looking after what is probably the Best Victor in the country. Lovely review.
@keithtanner2806
@keithtanner2806 Жыл бұрын
I think you are referring to the Mk1, the “rocket tube” version, which nearly killed Vauxhall. If you jacked up the Mk1 at the central jacking point with the doors open you woukd never close the doors again!
@suttonreid7242
@suttonreid7242 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! My very first car purchase was a 1961 Victor Super, when I was 17 years old in 1966. In California, these were imported by Pontiac. In retrospect, it was a very good car. I drove it one time from the San Francisco bay area where I grew up to Los Angeles. It was fantastic for long, highway trips. Sadly, they were top heavy and I rolled mine while racing a friend on a Honda motorbike. I was able to secure a replacement chassis and after putting my engine and transmission into it, continued to drive the new one. Sadly, when I returned from basic training, my dad sold both of them and handed the key to a Honda 125cc motorcycle that he bought for me in Japan. Mine was white in color and obviously, a left-hand drive. I'm 5'11" and found the car roomy and comfortable. It was nigh on unbreakable. Trust me, a 17 year old buck male at the time, it wasn't for a lack of trying. Oh, the stupid things I did in that car! Also, I purchased oversize tires, 7.50 x 13, which had the effect of increasing the top speed. I'm guessing that we easily cruised down I-5 at more than 75 mph. And Steph? You are adorable!
@thechiguy38
@thechiguy38 4 жыл бұрын
My parents brought a 1961 Victor back to the states when my dad was moved back to the US. I remember this car as a kid and miss it so much. I hounded my dad to give it to me when I could drive. Eventually it just sat around and my father junked it while I was in college. I could have died. I just remember being a kid and riding in the back. Our car was black with no radio (what a luxury! 🤣). I do remember being able of start the car without the key; I totally forgot about that. I also remember the sound which this car duplicated perfectly as well at the “3 on the tree”. I would love to find one of these, but again they’ve disappeared. Thanks so much for this!!♥️🤗😊
@anthonyfmoss
@anthonyfmoss 4 жыл бұрын
As I’ve lived in Luton all my life and used to see a lot of these growing up, I was so pleased to watch this marvellous video!
@billmitchell7904
@billmitchell7904 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see a Victor at last. As a lad my neighbour had a '58 that was his pride and joy. All the kids loved it's rock and roll looks. But the rust monster got it quite quickly!! I do enjoy your enthusiasm, you obviously love classics...keep up the great videos.
@gaufrid1956
@gaufrid1956 2 жыл бұрын
When I was four years old in Newcastle New South Wales Australia I watched these and many other cars drive by the front of my grandma's house where I lived. Great to see some still on the road!
@DavidJohnston58
@DavidJohnston58 4 жыл бұрын
These have always been a favourite of mine, uncle had one when I was a bairn, followed by a Cresta then a Zephyr and a Zodiac, then on to Rootes products. He was the only relative that had new cars as he was a rep for Cleveland petroleum and then Esso amongst others. Spotted this very one on Salvage Hunters earlier this year (or last) with Paul Cowland and Droopy admiring it, good to see it again and get a better look. Love seeing these old cars and you do a great job bringing them to us. Thank you
@johnduckworth474
@johnduckworth474 4 жыл бұрын
My father had one of these in a cream colour. It was a smart looking car and with its American styling, shiny chrome, and wrap around screen, it cut rather a dash on the road.
@MarkJT1000
@MarkJT1000 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review and presentation. A fine example of 1960s styling. Always loved Vauxhalls, the Cresta was beautiful. Had an HB Viva years ago.
@McMavTV
@McMavTV 3 жыл бұрын
This car looks amazing! My dad had one of these, back when he first started driving in the mid-1970s. This was his first car when he was in the Philippines :) Great video!
@jacklee7104
@jacklee7104 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic rare cars, I remember a local taxi firm using these in the 80’s! (And a few oxfords) definitely GM/US styling it’s a shame rust killed many. . And the banger racing lads. Great review as always 💙
@sixtiessuburbia1502
@sixtiessuburbia1502 3 жыл бұрын
I miss driving this car, my first love! I don't think I will ever sell it. Its been a shame to see it locked away through the pandemic. As always, it was a pleasure to take part. WOW 56K views!! Well done on putting together such a great video!
@Allandrover
@Allandrover 4 жыл бұрын
The British version of Jay Lenos garage. Quality car reviews by quality car enthusiasts. Well done Steph, love to see more.
@allanloiselle2052
@allanloiselle2052 4 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 60 Vauxhall Envoy. I really liked it when it worked, but it was pretty abused when I got it and I did not favours. An easy to drive car, and it had a ton of personality, something my 2015 Chrysler 200 lacks.
@9610SMUDGE
@9610SMUDGE 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed another of your videos. A great trip down memory lane. I really like your delivery style very watchable and look forward to many more.
@davidclinch1358
@davidclinch1358 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video it takes me back to my first car, '57 F model Victor which I bought in 1965 as soon as I passed my test, and as I worked at a Vauxhall dealer from 1963 to '65 it was an obvious choice. As regards the missing screenwasher on your car, the 'Deluxe' version (best of 3 levels of trim) had factory fitted washers, duo-tone paintwork and other goodies. Your model, the 'Super' was midway in the range and therefore it wasn't quite so well equipped. As regards the brakes, they were better than you would expect - a lady once stepped straight out in front of me in Worthing and the car stopped instantly (no, honestly !) probably saving her life.
@m.v.k4681
@m.v.k4681 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had an FD Victor it also had a 3 on the tree gearbox, but you could also get a four on the floor. Ah, happy days.
@petergouldbourn2312
@petergouldbourn2312 3 жыл бұрын
You make me feel good ŵith your cheerful personality and your encyclopaedic knowledge of the cars you review. Thanks. Pete 🇬🇧
@terribelbliss9646
@terribelbliss9646 2 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel and enjoy your reviews of these 60s era British cars. Many of them I had a Matchbox models. Thanks for sharing. 👍😉
@stuarthall2180
@stuarthall2180 4 жыл бұрын
Hat's off to Tom indeed, one of my favourites and from my year of birth ! Rust and more rust from these car's but I have to say this one looks marvellous. Well done you two.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Stuart!
@davidgale8390
@davidgale8390 3 жыл бұрын
My first car!!! Lovely to see and a trip down memory lane, thank you Steph 😁
@Corinthian44
@Corinthian44 3 жыл бұрын
A lovely video , I love your enthusiasm , well done Steph . I only came across your site last week , and have already , enjoyed many of your videos . Being quite , make that very , old , I actually remember the cars you test , and owned some of them at the time . Best wishes !
@omgdwayne1565
@omgdwayne1565 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these cars around Atlanta, Georgia back in the early 60s. They were sold through Pontiac dealers. Opels were sold through Buick dealers. There were a LOT of European cars around Atlanta back then. Love your channel by the way. I really like your choice of cars to review.
@MalcolmWard123
@MalcolmWard123 3 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 1959 Vauxhall Victor, I loved it was silver-grey. I brought it in 1965, part exchanged it for Victor 101.
@shauncheshire7742
@shauncheshire7742 4 жыл бұрын
Recently bought the exact same 1960 victor f type series 2 ,although in a terrible state , a project that will keep me out of trouble for quite some time, great video ,well presented , made my day 👍
@terranceprice7006
@terranceprice7006 4 жыл бұрын
Brings back lots of memories having served my apprentiship on early Vauxhaul`s at a main dealers, the E models, F models and the PA`s. How I thought they were super in them days compared to now, brings back lots of memories both good and not so good.
@rydermike33
@rydermike33 4 жыл бұрын
As you say Steph a very rare car indeed. What a beautiful colour and interior. All credit to Tom for putting the Victor back on the road. Many thanks for a great review.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@danielmcmaster3404
@danielmcmaster3404 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video. I grew up in Western New York State in the early 1960’s. My Dad had 2 Victors: I think a ‘58 and a ´60. One was a pile green 4-door sedan; the other a grey station wagon.
@User2100
@User2100 3 жыл бұрын
This car just looks so amazing Im already in love it this car seems to have more character then the modern ones today great review of this car! Great job steph.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
My friend had a Victor when we were both 19. I was envious, and my brother had a two tone Cresta! I was still driving a 1937 Morris 8. Their cars were from another planet. It was 1964
@gmpltd114
@gmpltd114 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Steph, my Grand pop had an FD Victor in dark green here in New Zealand back then. Very neat car.👍
@shaunw9270
@shaunw9270 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 👌 Here in England ,the first car I ever rode in was my Dad's '66 Victor 101 Deluxe 👍
@iswc27
@iswc27 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Steph! Greetings from Massachusetts, USA! I discovered your channel just the other day though your video on the 1960 Plymouth Fury. Although I'm a classic car buff, I'm much less knowledgeable about those from overseas, but it's certainly interesting to find a charming lady like yourself who shares my enthusiasm for the classics and knows so much about them, and I do know the Vauxhall Victor was sold by Pontiac dealers here in the USA from 1957 to 1961. At that time, the Volkswagen and America's own Rambler were bringing greater interest in small cars and that only grew as a recession came in during the late Fifties. The Victor basically gave Pontiac dealers a small car to sell until GM came up with its own compacts, the Tempest in Pontiac's case. I love the color on this one, and I think your friend Tom has done such a fantastic job bringing this one back to life. I visited London back in the mid-Nineties and I remember seeing a few of the more modern Vauxhall vehicles on the road during my stay. Thank you, Steph, for giving this interesting talk and taking us along on the drive!
@sixtiessuburbia1502
@sixtiessuburbia1502 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, I am glad you liked the Plymouth! Two very different cars for 1960!
@innovativeprevention1931
@innovativeprevention1931 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Tom amazing find expected to have had a load of welding and a blow over! Describing the knobs as Rolo's is classic Steph! Well done great video.
@fatduck3344
@fatduck3344 4 жыл бұрын
I just barely discovered this channel and I think it’s great! So I’m gonna subscribe.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@11carbuff19572011
@11carbuff19572011 4 жыл бұрын
Good girl Steph. You've brought me original memories of a very beautiful old car back to me after over 50 years. Love ya. I've actually gotta scale model of the first original Victor, in Gypsy Red, the exact one that I first remember one of my former primary school teachers, who is now sadly no longer with us, the late Sheila Ann Cooper (nee Abley). The car was originally registered XOJ 573, the earlier memories were circa September 1966 through to February 1968.
@michaeltutty1540
@michaeltutty1540 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Steph. That brought back memories. Ma had a 58 Velox until 66. A neighbour had a 59 Victor Super like that one. The Super was the fancier trim level. The Victor was a better car than the Velox, being both more mechanically robust as well as more resistant to rust. When our neighbour was forced to stop driving, another neighbour bought it for use in the summers at their cottage in the country. I have a feeling it may still be going strong. I hope so, anyway.
@maryrafuse2297
@maryrafuse2297 4 жыл бұрын
Steph, most interesting that you would review this car. It was exported to Canada and my husband's parents had one. Rusted like crazy in the sea side salt air of beautiful Nova Scotia. He has happy memories of summer camping trips with the Vauxhall Victor Super. It languished under a pile of snow from January to March each year from 1958 to 1965. It was replaced by a Chevy II. We just love your Channel and the English cars you feature. Just a friendly reminder that what you call American Cars are understood by us as North American Cars, many built in Southern Ontario under the Canada US Auto Pact. Keep up your wonderful reviews.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Mary! It always blows my mind that I can screen into your home thousands of miles away and share what I’ve been up to. The internet is great isn’t it.
@maryrafuse2297
@maryrafuse2297 4 жыл бұрын
@@idriveaclassic It sure is and it makes life so much better during COVID 19. You have one of the very best Channels on the Net. It's great seeing these cars from your point of view. The skill to restore them is so admirable. In Nova Scotia, where I live, the Austin Healey is a popular car to restore. Most are stored, for the winter, in barns on exhibition grounds and then brought out into the Spring sunshine. Steph, stay well and safe. Keep up your great communication with the world. Mary
@profrumpo
@profrumpo 4 жыл бұрын
Much thanks for yet another superb test, as a youngster I recall seeing these when on their last legs in the 1970's. They were nearly always rusty as although all cars rust eventually, these really seemed to dissolve!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BillMrWild
@BillMrWild 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1959 Victor brought it in 1962 when i was 21yrs It was Laurel Green, It was a nice car but the rust was its biggest enemy, the 59 had a narrow rear window, I remember it cost £385 seconhand of cause, got lots of pleasure driving it. Thanks for posting the video on a good old car.
@xeroxene
@xeroxene 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel recently. Absolutely loving it. Watching from Australia.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Awww hey!!! You live in one of the most beautiful countries. I’m jealous x
@friendofdorothy9376
@friendofdorothy9376 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers from Dallas Texas. I also just discovered Steph’s channel. Seen the Fury, Rolls Royce ones so far and then this one. Loved them all. 👍 Steph, could you hunt down a couple 50’s American cars to drive and all. Maybe a Cadillac, Lincoln or even an Edsel would be cool.
@malcolmherbert5127
@malcolmherbert5127 4 жыл бұрын
The reason you hardly ever see these now is, as other comments have said, that they could probably have won a gold medal for England in the rust olympics. I’m old enough to remember these coming out and they really were a mini American car. As you’ve said, that’s a mk.2, the first series were even more transatlantic in appearance and one interesting little detail involved the rear bumper. Whereas on that model the bumper merely continues to wrap around the rear wing, on the mk.1 there was a large round bulb at each end which was dished in the middle. The exhaust actually emerged through that dished hole on the left hand side. I started work in a wholesalers in Manchester in 1965 when I was 17 and six months later an older guy was started, I think he was about 35, and he had that same model of Victor as your example. It was painted in a duo tone maroon and cream colour scheme and looked extremely smart. When I asked him how he’d managed to get such a good example as they were getting a rare sight even so early on he said he’d been very lucky, it had been hit in accidents 3 times while he’d owned it and each time it had been in a different quarter of the car. He said he was waiting to have the passenger side rear hit by someone and then he’d had a complete restoration. I’m not exaggerating or making this up, it’s the absolute truth.
@danieleregoli812
@danieleregoli812 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh what a stunning car that is!!! Thanks a million for bringing us such a wonderful video!!
@jkk244
@jkk244 4 жыл бұрын
That weird feature with being able to remove the key and still start the car also appeared on American GM cars too. One time when my parents’ car was in a body shop for repairs we were lent an old 1962 Chevrolet Impala to use. It had that removable key feature and even then in the 1970s it seemed very strange. Oh, and another great video Steph!
@emjayay
@emjayay 4 жыл бұрын
The key feature lasted in GM cars into the 90's when they were on the steering column to lock the wheel. Not on Ford or Chrysler products ever though.
@O1Richard
@O1Richard 4 жыл бұрын
The older victor’s, Cresta’s and Velox’s looked more like 1950’s American cars and like in the states the cars got more square and had less chrome by the late 1960’s, a real shame that the cars today don’t look more individual.
@elephantsmemory3142
@elephantsmemory3142 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Ventora Agreat engine but the rust on the body was very bad
@O1Richard
@O1Richard 4 жыл бұрын
Elephants Memory Between my Grandad and my dad they had every Viva HA to HC including the Bedford HA van, they too rusted but decent engines, my Grandad had a Vauxhall 10 from the 1930’s as his first car. I’m in my 40’s so I can just about remember seeing viceroy’s, VX’s Chevette’s and the like, still more stylish than the stuff they churn out today.
@cosmic600
@cosmic600 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is awesome that you are so passionate about classic cars.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks love!
@nigelh4617
@nigelh4617 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one, Steph. My dad had one of these, first car I ever travelled in. He swapped it for an FB estate, in '63. PS. This one appears to pass the all-important headroom "beehive clearance" test.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaah. My poor hair gets a battering at times!
@glenfenderman
@glenfenderman 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing to to see a survivor like this. Back in 1974 my brother brought home an early 60's Vauxhall like that to our farm. You could poke the rocker panel with your finger and it would go right through.
@zakinfanti7575
@zakinfanti7575 4 жыл бұрын
Wow what a lovely fine example! And just clocked that this was filmed down the road from me!
@davidhynd4435
@davidhynd4435 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steph, great video. What a lovely, tidy example of the make and in such a pretty pastel colour too. I remember seeing these on Australian roads in the 1970's so they must have sold here in reasonable numbers. I'm not sure why they sold at all given that the FC Holden (1957 to 1960) and FB Holden (1960 to 1961) were similarly equipped (three on the tree, drum brakes, bench seats, etc.) with trendy American styling, including a knee-fracturing wraparound windscreen for the FB, but unlike the Vauxhall the Holdens came with six cylinder engines and oodles of social acceptability. Maybe in an era when every second household had a Holden in the driveway a Vauxhall Victor or Velox was a way to stand out from the crowd?
@manthony1956
@manthony1956 4 жыл бұрын
This is all so very 1950s Chevrolet. Having owned 55, 56, 57, and 60 model Bel Air, the first thing I noticed are those wrap around windows. The models here in America were known as "knee knockers." I am tall, and the windscreen protruding into the doorway took some getting used to. But one would forget a smack your knees getting in or out. Your vehicle reminds me of the 1957 model because of the color. We always called them turquoise, GM had some other fancy name. This color looks particularly good two-tone, with ivory roof and insets on the rear quarter panels. I am surprised the dashboard is not symmetrical, as on the American models. These cars were sold in the USA and Canada through Pontiac dealers ( Buick dealers sold Opel). I remember seeing them in the salvage yard in the 1970s. But back to the styling. Ignition switch, door handles inside and out. Window cranks, ash tray design, even the six window side pattern. The pleating of the upholstery. The wing windows wider at the top than bottom. Harley Earl's influence is so evident in this time of transition for GM. Though one saw few on the road twenty years later, the Vauxhall legacy was not completely lost here in the States. Small European car bodies were very popular with the drag racing crowd. I saw many an English Ford, Opel, Vauxhall, Fist on what were known as A/ Altered. Extended tubular frames with large American V8s. A second life for many a discarded "furrin" job." Take care. You are excellent as usual.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to test a Chevvy!
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 жыл бұрын
What a fab review, my only question is why hasn't KZbin recommended this channel to me before? Better late than never. A car I can only just remember seeing on the road. From a time cars were recognisable.
@ThePolaroid669
@ThePolaroid669 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video (as always). Love it! And as already mentioned (but worth repeating), love your perfectly matching eye shadow colour to the car paint colour! awesome! Come visit Sydney sometime (one day in the future).
@chriscollins4375
@chriscollins4375 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am from the UK and now live in california. Behind my house in open space there are the remains of a car. That car is a Vauxhall Victor just like this one. This video really allowed me to confirm what I am seeing behind my house is one and the same. I would of NEVER thought of looking for a british car when trying to identify the remains behind my house. Also I noticed that this was shot in Rugeley (I am from stoke on trent) so it brought back memories of driving around my old hood. Thank you!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 3 жыл бұрын
That’s mental!!!
@garyjohansson8859
@garyjohansson8859 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steph, great find and review. Reminds me of my Dad's 57 Chevy. Cool color as well.
@Kevinfordsynthesizers
@Kevinfordsynthesizers 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant channel - superbly presented and researched - many thanks!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that means an awful lot for the research to be recognised x
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 2 жыл бұрын
That dashboard does look really clutter free and well designed - love the two tone colour scheme, again classic 1950's. Obviously it looks very 1950's, because 1960 was before 60's styling and general style appeared. All in all, a really nice looking car and well thought out for the time, in terms of design.
@davegeros9314
@davegeros9314 Жыл бұрын
Very stylish car 👍. Didn't see many of these in NZ as a kid, despite Vauxhall being a hugely popular marque there, however the replacement models (1961-72) were very popular and abundant in NZ.
@alansmith8837
@alansmith8837 3 жыл бұрын
Its a rare treat steph because many new victors showed rust thru the paint in the first year, some were even delivered new from outside storage with slightly rusting seams. Still i'd love to have a drive in one
@owengoodspeed5763
@owengoodspeed5763 4 жыл бұрын
My father had a Wyevern, a red and grey Victor FA and then pre and post facelift FBs. I think there was a facelift partway through the FA run as well. The rear wings stick out a bit further than the one my father had. He reckoned that he got 80 mph out of his. He said he only did it once and never repeated the experiment as the feel/handling of the car at that speed was just too scary. Thank you for bringing back childhood memories including long car rides from North London down to Cornwall.
@andrewthomas7073
@andrewthomas7073 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review,Steph. My father brought one from Attwoods in Wolverhampton . I was very excited as I was at junior school at the time. The only things that were different were the rear light clusters, which had a hole at the bottom of the chrome surround through which the exhaust pipe protruded, with a corresponding painted black disc on the other side, and the other difference was that the body was two-tone, grey and lime green! Dad was very proud of it, but was shocked to have the curved windscreen replaced when it broke just before our summer holiday, costing 7guineas!!! Happy days!
@timcox7673
@timcox7673 4 жыл бұрын
I have a owners manual for EH Holden ,a GM car in Australia, it has a similar system for allowing the key to be removed after unlocking, it explains the reason is to allow you to lock items in the boot and glove box if you have parked in old style parking station where an attendant can move the car without the keys
@Paul-iv9mt
@Paul-iv9mt 3 жыл бұрын
I learned to drive in one of these in 1962. It was brown and cream. I remember the year I took my test it snowed on New Years Eve and that snow ( which I had to learn on) was still piled up when I took the test in March. I passed and maybe coping with the snow helped me.
@RadioJonophone
@RadioJonophone 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I enjoyed the drive in that old Victor. I had a couple in the 1960s, the first rotted away as you watched, the second was an estate I had for two years and made a profit when I sold it.
@peterryan7827
@peterryan7827 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly well done brilliant video, i just loved it,i am surprised you're not on tv doing this all the time, Or are you and i missed the progs, but anyway i never had this model but the next one up i think with column change and i think bench seats. approx 1964 and i loved it to bits.It was a very comfy car to be in a passenger or driver , Thanks again.
@jonjoyce3188
@jonjoyce3188 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative, you’re good at this, and have the right look for that car! 👍
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@kevinwhelan8126
@kevinwhelan8126 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Suspension was always purported to be a bit wallowy and you can see how soft the springing is on the test drive. This car was certainly made for comfortable cruising not high speed cornering. Great ride👍
@Roger.Coleman1949
@Roger.Coleman1949 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Steph of an incredibly rare car, even in the slighlty updated F ( A ) style from 1960, the previous model had different trim and bumpers, the exhaust protruding from the extremity of the rear bumper.A friend had an estate version in the same colour VVE 868, also 1960.Tom has done a great job and is a lucky man to own such a fantastic example.Will not quote what Ian ' Hubnut ' would say about the wiper arrangement , everyone will know !.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Roger!
@tankboyful
@tankboyful 4 жыл бұрын
great review hun. love the choice of car! very thorough and informative. you are helping carrying the flag for a lot of these old vehicles that are often sadly forgotten by most. keep it up!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh thanks for watching James, hope you’re well!
@tankboyful
@tankboyful 4 жыл бұрын
@@idriveaclassic i am doing fine, thank you for asking.
@davidchesterman1556
@davidchesterman1556 4 жыл бұрын
Takes me back. My Dad had a 1958 one in the sixties same colour but no radio and it had the two chrome stripes on the bonnet. One everlasting memory is the time the rear suspension collapsed on the driveway, I think it may have been an ex hire car and perhaps abused. He later bought a 1962 FB that had 3 on the tree too and an abiding memory of both cars is very high revs in 2nd gear going up some hills. The FB was probably the first car I drove a country road before the lagal age. Dad must have liked Victors because he bought new 101 in 1967 that had four on the floor although I believe you could still get the column change. I passed the test in the 101 a week after my 17th birthday (mind you I had already passed the same test in my Isetta bubble car which you could drive at 16). I still think I'd like a 101 today it was like floating on air as I recall.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to drive an Isetts
@jamesgibson5606
@jamesgibson5606 4 жыл бұрын
Just a point on the windscreen washers, I remember going to fill up with fuel and the attendant actually filled the car for you and as the car was being filled up the attendant would clean your screen as part of the service. Great video Steph.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
They still do this at Teales Garage in Mirfield. Used to be my local when I lived in the old house.
@john_smith1471
@john_smith1471 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for the column change demo. You are right about rarity, I never see a Vauxhall at Classic car shows, this garage find probably saved the car, my father had a 1962 Victor FB estate two tone colour, it was always failing the MOT with corrosion somewhere, he used Gun Gum filler on the exhaust, I was surprised to still see Gun Gum available at Wilko .
@peterriggall8409
@peterriggall8409 4 жыл бұрын
I can see bits of that that appeared in the 62 EK Holden. From the GM parts bin I guess. Lovely example and great video thanks Steph.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Peter!
@paulleighton8522
@paulleighton8522 4 жыл бұрын
Another one knocked out the park Steph. What a beautiful car! I hadn't made the connection to the BelAir influences until you mentioned it but of course Vauxhall and Chevy are both GM. I like it though. I'd buy it now, I'd have bought it then. I love the American styling of fins'n'chrome. Plus as with all your recent videos the new sound setup makes it an absolute pleasure to watch. IDRIVEACLASSIC has definitely become part of my Sunday routine.
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Aww Paul that’s such a sweet comment. Thank you x
@chrisweeks6973
@chrisweeks6973 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a Coventry-registered car, complete with the dealer's sticker on the glovebox lid. William Brandish & Sons were the Vauxhall main dealer in Coventry, located on the r/h side of Whitefriars Street as one headed towards the London Road. They were also the main dealer for Triumph motorcycles and, in 1960, as a 14-year-old, I used to gaze through their window at the delectable Tiger 110, finshed in black and ivory, complete with the 'bathtub' fairing. My dad bought his new HA Viva Deluxe from Brandish's in late 1963 and I bought a new HB Viva SL from them (GKV 697D) in November 1966. That was a nice car, though with the impetuosity of youth, I decided it wasn't fast enough and swapped it for a MkII 3.4 Jaguar; I should have bought two - one to use whilst the other was being repaired... Such is life!
@andrewp9725
@andrewp9725 4 жыл бұрын
Really suits you! Great video as always keep it up!
@idriveaclassic
@idriveaclassic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Andrew!
@richardhemingway6084
@richardhemingway6084 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steph, for the review and Tom for saving this car. It is truely remarkable how it has survived, considering how they rusted like mad. I had never seen a radio with only the LW band on it. What was that about? Permanently tuned to the Light program? That ignition switch is very familiar. I had that on the Cresta PB. I don't think I ever used the key in it. Permanently left unlocked. (very trusting, way back).
@peternutkins2203
@peternutkins2203 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one of these when they first came out in 1957, didn't know there were any left, they used to rust a bit! I had a PA Cresta soon after that, lovely car.
@HowardLeVert
@HowardLeVert 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding the radio: it has two wavebands - a fully-tuneable Medium Wave and a preset station on Long Wave, which would have been the "Light Programme" back in the day (but with a slight tweak would now be Radio 4). You get to that by turning the tuning knob fully clockwise. I've repaired a couple of these radios in the past - one for a PA Cresta and another for the much more conservative Gerald Palmer-designed FB Victor. My first car was column-change - a Renault 16 - and I still prefer a column change to this day :) Great video, thanks for sharing that with us.
@simonba9944
@simonba9944 4 жыл бұрын
What a lovely little car. Excellent review. Thanks!
@nigden1
@nigden1 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Steph,I’m ofan age where these cars were around!
@robwoodward2330
@robwoodward2330 4 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous car, gorgeous colour & lovely to have a look in the boot! X
@peteredwards338
@peteredwards338 4 жыл бұрын
In 1965 my sister drove from Essex to Northumberland in a Victor, on the journey part of the n/side front wing fell off followed by the exhaust. They were real rust buckets, a kindly truck driver wired the bits back on- she made it home!
@NotAnotherWhiteBox
@NotAnotherWhiteBox 4 жыл бұрын
Living for the fact that you’ve matched your eyeshadow to the colour of the car. That’s the level of extra that I could only aspire to 😘
@philipjohnson4744
@philipjohnson4744 4 жыл бұрын
Look brilliant, I took a picture of a 1957 Chevy Belair while on holiday a few years ago at Kissimmee Florida car cruse evening. Same colour and very similar lines particularly rear end fines
@MrPeterthepilot
@MrPeterthepilot 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, well described. Takes me back to my childhood....
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