If I'm Saved Then Why Do I Still Sin?

[@saitamabilingualgamer3915]

I havent felt so free after hearing these sermons ever since becoming a Christian. So much of my anxiety and worries are diminished. Jesus did it for us and it has been PAID IN FULL! Glory to God.

[@SolasChristusMinistry]

AMEN! I came to the comments to say the same thing but I first wanted to see if anyone else felt that way and here you are my Brother! If we never meet in this earthly life, I’ll see you in paradise. I think many things were made a whole lot clearer for both of us.

[@a1glassmirror]

SO TRUE!

[@jamesh.osasinchrist6810]

Amen 🙌

[@_wandie.x_]

Thank you for this great teaching. I was going insane thinking that I was lost. I kept thinking that I was not saved because I still have an urge to sin. This left me anxious and spiritually crippled/paralyzed. Shame and fear were ruling my life. I wanted to give up and end things. Now I have hope. Thank you. I wish more people taught this.

[@Adam-ed6vm]

All that is required of us is to trust in the Lord Jesus death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of our sins. The death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins is the Gospel we read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Ephesians 2:8-9 says that our salvation is the gift of God, and that we are saved by grace through our faith, and not by the things we do or do not do!

[@thissweetlife7250]

I am dealing with fear of not being saved right now

[@jsdiy3176]

​@ThisSweetLife♡ John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? Jesus is asking this woman do you belive in me? He says you will never die if you belive in me. In other words, saved forever. He doesn't ask her to stop sinning, he doesn't ask her to be a good person, to go to church, all he wants is faith in Him. The moment you believe Jesus paid for all the past sins you did the present sins you are doing and any future sins you may do. He Paid it all on the cross 2000 years. After belief there is nothing to fear.

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

@@thissweetlife7250 me too

[@KenSchreiber]

THIS has been me too

[@SpeckledSouth]

Wow, I so badly needed to hear this message this morning. I have been struggling for a year with Calvinistic teachings and other work based teachings that have led me down a road of hurt in my faith walk with God. It’s easy to sometimes get lost in our mistakes and lose sight of God’s abundant mercy. Thank you Jesus for saving me and all of my brothers and sisters. Help us to be faithful to your word and operate under your grace. Amen. 🙏🏼

[@derickveatch8867]

This pastor is doing great things and teaching the real gospel.

[@cristiananaella4760]

❤

[@Fairford2001]

This man is one of the best pastors I have ever heard.

[@swiftbear]

God bless this man, reformed / Calvinistic teachings are everywhere and people need delivered from it and find rest in Christ and turn from their own performance, obedience, trajectory, works.

[@GrantSchinto]

Amen x ♾

[@Dispensational_David]

Amen. I’ve been tortured by reformed Calvinist doctrine

[@diananickel3086]

Agreed, just having a conversation about how this kind of thinking has really infected so much of the body of Christ and robs the joy, peace and liberty of a Christian.

[@tracyireland7447]

​@direwolf85 Yes, me too. It robbed me of any peace to be found in Christ. That's why teachings like this are so comforting and important to me.

[@Rileyed]

God never asks how we did today. He asks did we trust In Him?

[@BIGLOVE4TRUTH]

So glad this preacher exposes Calvinism and Johnny Mac.

[@redsoul6900]

😅Johnny Mac

[@markwhite5926]

I do believe John MacArthur is a brother though. He preaches the gospel faithfully amd has defended the church and its doctrine... and has suffered loss for doing so. So maybe we can still be respectful when talking about one of Christ’s sheep.

[@mikeha]

he exposes the other 99.9% of churches, even the ones people think are teaching correctly but secretly believe that a real Christian could never stop believing

[@jimjoe9945]

@@markwhite5926 He corrupts the beautiful gospel with calvinism. He denies the blood atonement. He denies eternal security. He has stated that a Christian can take the mark of the beast and still be saved. He is a wolf.

[@Dispensational_David]

This is how I was taught growing up. Then reformed Calvinistic doctrine made me miserable and I’ve almost left the faith. I’m tired of doubting my faith because of my sin. I love Jesus and I know that is enough for me to get to heaven.

[@timothyhodges705]

Every one of us have work to do on ourselves, for the rest of our lives! But praise unto God through Jesus Christ for saving each and every one of us, that by believing, we have Christ inside us He gives us the ability to overcome sin and death.

[@Privy971]

Truth is always refreshing. Praise The Lord For Excellent Teaching. Thank you

[@timothyhodges705]

This teaching is TRUE, the Pastor is coming straight from Scripture! Thank you, Pastor for teaching the whole counsel of God!

[@patcola7335]

It's amazing because this question has been on my heart a lot recently and then this video shows up ! Praise God !

[@rogerglasco5941]

This was such a powerful message. Thank you pastor so much. I needed to hear this. I pray I can submit every day to the workings of the Holy Spirit in my life.

[@armorvestrus4119]

How do I find a church that teaches Salvation this way?

[@jace76ful]

If I could save myself, I would have no need for a savior. However, that is not the case.

[@richardadesolaakotun9306]

Thanks sir the truth of the message has set me free once and for all time after years of error!

[@johndoe-ri4nq]

Calvinism and Arminianism are 2 sides of the same coin of the works salvation gospel. Thank you Pastor Tom for preaching the truth that our salvation is through Christ's finished work which should never be tainted by our works.

[@temetriagaona]

Everytime I tried to do this I failed … but as I trust in Christ for all things He helps me .. but I can fall back into the Same place again because of the sin nature

[@kennethmitchell5734]

I'm so thankful you cleared this issue. It has helped me settle this conflict once and for all. Thank u brother in Christ.

[@peterwiebewall5608]

Greetings dearly beloved in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I don't know when this video was recorded, but I'm watching it December 30th 2023. I just recently discovered this online ministry, and I'm so glad for this sound biblical teaching. God bless you pastor, and your ministry.

[@wtom04]

The terms "head faith", "heart faith", "true saving faith", "false saving faith", "non saving faith", "spurious faith", "temporary faith", "fleeting faith", "dynamic faith", are terms that do not appear in Scripture, but are invented terms from the Lordship Salvation camp that will do nothing but create confusion, fear, anxiety, and no assurance of salvation.

[@freyaaldrnari6086]

No kidding 🥺😭

[@PotterSpurn1]

Exactly. I mention this in a lot of my comments online.

[@randyd9805]

That's a good list and quite true. You either have faith in Christ as your Savior or you don't, simple as that. That's exactly what the Lord Jesus taught but so many don't get it.

[@Marlon__99]

@@randyd9805they stumble at that stumbling block 😢 The simplicity of Christ.

[@itisfinished726]

Good news amen. 😁I have a old friend who i today avoid, he is a pastor. He preach that if you throw out the garbage in your life the demons will follow out. He put so heavy burdens on the church with his false teching.Makes me sad and upset. From sweden ❤

[@randyd9805]

All Christians need very much to be taught this lesson soon as possible after they get saved. Perhaps if this and a few other basic things were taught to them so many real believers would not backslide and give up on their Christian walk.

[@jeanettebrooker9688]

This is the best teaching l have ever heard.

[@Elements795]

Absolutely excellent explanation of this subject. Thank you so much for your word…such a privilege to be able to access material like this online.🙏❤️

[@vegetablevampire3901]

Solid preaching on the 2 natures. If you submit (believe is all He asks) to Jesus Christ all these Godly works we do are a natural result. Our sinful nature can only rebel, our new nature can only trust and obey. Simple as.

[@daniellassley19]

Thank you for your liberating sermons! Truth is hard to find now days even in church unfortunately. When the Bible is preached and teached correctly and how God intended it is liberating. I truly believe driving your point home is key to allowing people to realize what they have in Christ and wanting to serve out of love because of that freedom and peace and confidence in what we have.

[@brendankennedy3855]

This was so good. I have been mistaken for so long. I have so much more hope now. Thank you so much

[@markdiblasi3061]

But now. It is no longer I who do it but sin that lives in me. If I do what I will not to do it is no longer I who do it but sin that lives in me. Rom 7:17,20

[@RustyCreek-qb6gm]

Matthew 1:21.. Romans 7 ends with Romans 8:1. The separation of the chapters at that point has led many astray

[@k.kchishi]

I thank you father for your wisdom and understanding through the preacher.bless him and bless us that we too be a source of blessing by your grace,Amen.

[@mr.derpcat6479]

I’ve experienced the insanity and I almost left the faith because of the sleepless nights and the constant fear of the wrath of God by me so much as committing a single sin ever again in my entire life

[@scribbliedoo]

Im going through this right now

[@gageclark22]

@@scribbliedoo Hey, I know it's a few months late, but I saw your post. I'll be praying for you. I went through that recently enough after my old church put enough weird teachings on me to push me to almost a breaking point. It's hard, I know. But realize you're not alone, there are others out there who share your story. And greater than that, even though a church community can fail you God never will.

[@bohanan5851]

Thank you for calling out those who would teach these falsehoods to people who are young/weak/new in their faith. Thank you God for teachers like the man in this video.

[@richhunter5013]

TRUTH,and the TRUTH will set you free, thank you

[@mooaaron]

2 Corinthians 5 "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here! 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation":

[@erickanter]

A wonderful sermon pastor. I remember a period of my life and even now it seems like a bad dream. All the sin i committed and nothing but excuses. Using people hating lying and on and on. I haven't been back to that terrible time for a while and i don't want to go back. Am i perfect???? No but there is difference now. I am more Intune to the conviction of the holy spirit. I don't want to go back and even now thinking about it is painful. I say of all the saints in heaven walking the golden streets of Jerusalem i will be the most unworthy.

[@Smerm]

This is the most important sermon and best one I’ve ever heard explaining biblically salvation by grace alone and our struggle as believers to walk in our new man and not the old. Sharing it!!! THANK YOU ✝️🙏

[@amazinggrace4507]

Thank-you. The sad part is that in today's world most churches are headed by a wolf in sheep's clothing. There is not one sound church where I live. My 25 year old daughter is saved, but struggles with no true Christian friends or co-workers. Thank the Lord that God will never forsake even the most disobedient child. The Parable of the Sower comes to mind.

[@biblebeliever2795]

Tell your daughter to try online to make Christian friends.

[@thissweetlife7250]

Thank you for the simple message of salvation. Brothers and sister we have a blessed assurance.

[@timothyhodges705]

I get so stoked listening to Pastor Tom! Thanks Brother, great sermon!

[@theodoreritola7641]

So do I Jesus is more real to me than i am to my self

[@kevindavis4709]

Great points brother. Some people make it sound like you’ll never make a mistake again

[@wtom04]

I still struggle with my old nature. I have anger, unforgiveness, and foul mouth, foul language issues for decades. : (

[@PotterSpurn1]

Pray, pray, pray. God will answer your prayers. Recently, after much prayer to become more Christlike - having a long way to go - he removed my desire and instinct to swear wantonly whenever I was frustrated and angry - as I sometimes still get. I hardly ever swear now and I am also more patient than I was before too, which helps. In the past six months I have let slip about six times, and when I do I always feel accutely aware of it afterwards (Godly sorrow). When your pray for regeneration, God always answers that prayer. God knows who his children are. You will always become aware of when he rebukes you too. You feel convicted.

[@CatzlovichCatnipAndCabbages]

You cannot just pray your sinful habits away, ask God to give you the strength to resist the temptation to sin but do not pray and ask God to take the temptations to commit these sins away from you because God will not do it as doing so would not help you grow as a Christian. God is not going to remove the capacity to commit evil from people, we make the choice to do good or to do evil if we, as born again Christians, ask God will give us the strength and the wisdom to overcome the flesh but God will not just remove our capacity to commit sin.

[@Liam0408]

Very true. Many denominations are inadvertently teaching reformation of the flesh, but the flesh cannot be reformed. The flesh is not "sinning less". Sin is its master. We are already sinless in the inner man, we just need to practice live in the inner man more and more. There is no sinning less. The inner man is already sinless. The old man just gets in the way

[@johntrevett2944]

This sounds like gnosticism.

[@a1glassmirror]

I love Dr. Cucuzza’s teaching of scripture. There have been 4 pastors in my life whom I truly trust as sound teachers; Pastor David Lapp, who’s message, 30 years ago, brought me to salvation, my current pastor who is young but solid in theology and very protective of his flock, Pastor Mike Winger, here on KZbin. His answers to viewers questions have helped build my faith in many ways. And finally but not the least, Dr. Cucuzza. This message has really impacted my faith in an awesome way.

[@jimdee9801]

My fairh was once questioned by a calvinst preacher because he spotted me almost sleeping during one of his sermons

[@Funnyman-uy6nt]

This is a really good sermon, very straightforward and simple to understand! Thank you!

[@AmberDennis001]

I struggle with getting envy when I se others my age getting engaged or sharing a pregnancy announcement on social media. Does God hate me? I’m still single at 28. Wish I could get through this battle

[@gregorylatta8159]

Clear teaching!!!

[@ReciprocatedAnnoyance]

Thank you so much for this message.

[@larrysamuelson2223]

Thanks brother. " Two natures beat within my breast. The one is foul, and the one is blest. The one I love and the one I hate. The one I feed will dominate. "

[@temetriagaona]

There’s a lot that’s pointing to me .. if I don’t if I do.. where’s the resting in Christ and allowing Him to do the work

[@mikeha]

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. Ceasing from our own works is sometimes hard. It's almost a zen like teaching, that to succeed we need to stop trying.

[@emf49]

Excellent message.

[@bstein9500]

Praise God! I am so glad i found your teachings. Clarity is invaluable.

[@alwayzblues]

I love the teaching sir! It warms my heart. Thank you.

[@annmurdock6693]

Thank you l really needed this, Blessings from UK

[@patcandelora8496]

Pastor Tom sure knows how to get after it! Thanks for this!

[@bodilkragh3847]

AMEN dear brother in Christ Jesus 😍 ALL honer and praise to JESUS

[@BrotherDave80]

God bless you Pastor Cucuzza

[@karynbanksley7110]

Excellent teaching!

[@delcannon5051]

Amen!!

[@Monchichichan83]

Apostolics are like this as well. People in the NAR are I think are just as bad if not worse than the Calvinist and Armenians lordshippers. I wish people would talk about them more and warn people. A lot of people are caught up in that movement. My mom and grandmother included. They believe salvation is a process. My moms best friends pastor talks bad to the congregation and makes them feel sooo guilty. It is crazy. I love these teachings Pastor Tom!

[@CatzlovichCatnipAndCabbages]

"I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. *For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;* And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." Church is not supposed to be a big feel good session where the topic of hell and the need for salvation is never brought up for fear of scaring those in attendance. People need to be afraid as hell is a very real and very terrible place that you need to be absolutely sure that you are not going to when you leave this world, you cannot have a message about salvation without also preaching about what you need saving from.

[@toddbodnark4399]

Jesus plus everything/anything leaves you nothing. Jesus plus nothing leaves you everything!

[@theodoreritola7641]

WOOOW SO true brother Todd. I love you my brother. I WILL see you in Heaven

[@James41892]

YAHOSHEA BLESS Brother. יהושע ברכה אח

[@heatherambassadorforjesusc5072]

I feel I have lost my salvation. I used to feel Gods presence and have not for almost 3 weeks when be corrected me and I continued to speak

[@Northlandchurchstc]

You can't lose your salvation once you have it. It's called everlasting life for a reason, once you have it, it never stops. Also, God tells us we can know that we have it by simply believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins on the cross. 1 John 5:13 - These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

[@Saskinny]

There are two groups of humanity. The Saints and the Aint's. Saints aren't Aint's and Aint's arent Saints, but if an Ain't becomes a Saint, he'll never be an Ain't again!

[@SOG8014]

Amen 🙏🏻 rest in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.

[@geod3589]

Glad to hear you call out John MacArthur. So many think he's the greatest ever. Justin Peters even said he was the best thing since Jesus.

[@heatherambassadorforjesusc5072]

I am so worried God took his spirit from me. I told him I wouldn’t do something again and didn’t a week LATER!!!!! I said something I shouldn’t have. At that moment I felt he removed his prescense.

[@Northlandchurchstc]

You can't lose the Holy Spirit once you have it because we are seal by the Holy Spirit the moment we believe. Ephesians 1:13 - In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, However, when you sin you can break you're fellowship with God. To restore that fellowship you must confess your sins (confess means to agree with God about your sin). 1 John 1 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Check out Pastor's series on 1 John. kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJDujskMdfehbmnbAC6wC86K

[@proudrosemom]

Sister, there’s no sin that God cannot forgive if you believe upon Him and ask Him for forgiveness. He knows we are weak. He will give you the strength to overcome but the fact that you’re worried about him not wanting you shows you DO care and you wouldn’t care if the Holy Spirit wasn’t living inside you drawing you back to him. Just come back to him. He loves you wants you to return.

[@lindamoore9729]

Love your sermons! Thank you!

[@donreed5109]

Carnal (sin nature control) & Spiritual (spirit control) are mutually exclusive. The believer is always 100% carnal (Out of fellowship) or 100% spiritual (In fellowship). Recovery from carnality is simply (Confess) per 1 Jn 1:9 the Only way to be

[@temetriagaona]

Amen🙌🏾

[@bobbyk7]

I’m going through terrible mental anguish. I don’t know if I trusted Christ alone after hearing the gospel which was ever so clearly presented with no confusion whatsoever. I’m scared I might be a law trusting Pharisee. My mind is in shambles. I don’t see how I could’ve POSSIBLY missed anything in the gospel message. I’m really afraid right now.😞

[@Northlandchurchstc]

In 1 John 5:13 it says that you can know you have eternal life. Two things to point out. It says that you can know. Secondly, something that is eternal (aka everlasting) can never be lost. This is why you can know you have it. It's a one time transaction. If you could lose it then it couldn't be called eternal life. 1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

[@bobbyk7]

I will keep that in mind. Thanks very much. 🙏

[@susancomis2841]

I love your teaching, thank you. Regarding Galatians 5:16, will you please explain Galatians 5:19 -21? Paul is speaking to Believers. Verse 21 says, shall not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

[@jjsmoley]

In verse 19 it says "the works of the flesh". Those sins listed in that passage (and all sin) comes from our fleshly old nature. Sin prevents us from entering / inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven. However, once we've trusted Jesus Christ as our savior we gain the new nature which cannot sin and we can now enter heaven. So then those of us who are believers have both natures while we are still on earth. But once we physically die only the new nature goes to heaven. The old natures stay's behind and does not inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven. Also, Pastor Dave recently started a new series on Galatians (play list linked below). Eventually he will cover this passage so keep checking back each week. kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJDFdxhjFv3Kk9vpzc83qrxe

[@proudrosemom]

The old man, old nature, will not enter heaven. So Paul is saying, don’t go back to living like that old flesh nature since it won’t inherit eternal life. This used to trip me up too but this pastor and Bibleline (pastor Jesse)have explained this so well. Check out his channel too. They know each other.

[@cristiananaella4760]

👍

[@waynel389]

💚🎁❤️🙏

[@namefamily4485]

Ephesians 2:8-10 NIV 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. 1 John 3:6-12 NIV 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. 7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

[@jjsmoley]

See Pastor's series on 1 John to understand the correct interpretation of those passages based on the KJV version of the bible. kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJDujskMdfehbmnbAC6wC86K

[@XxlightxX]

Wow he said John MacArthur is a false teacher! I always felt the spirit telling me to reject. Everyone is ignorant though what the bible says. Barely anyone can read it right. Fundamentalist Baptist are the best at preaching though.

[@hombrepobre9646]

Actually, he is not kidding when he says some of you are not saved, the doctrine of election says will not. What if some of the members are not preordained to be save? That is the danger of calvinism, limited grace.

[@ukgaragegold]

Can someone help me. Since coming to Christ I’ve been so confused and that confusion has turned into torment and into deep Depression. I don’t know if I’m saved and I’ve asked Christ to save me and I’ve had no peace at all. I see no professing Christian casting out demons, healing the sick or raising the dead and my elders in my church make me feel bad about doubting and worrying about my salvation

[@jjsmoley]

The following verse tells us that we can know we have eternal life. 1 John 5:13 - These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Notice that the only requirement to knowing is to believe on the name of the Son of God. Jesus' name means God saves. Instead of trying to do things on your own to make it to Heaven you simply accept the payment Jesus made on the cross as your payment. This next verse also tells us that the moment we believe we HAVE (hath in the KJV text) everlasting life, meaning we posses it right now. If something is everlasting it means it never stops and so then you can never lose it no matter what happens. John 6:47 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. Also notice the black and white contrast of believe vs not believing mentioned in John 3:18 and John 3:36. John 3:18 - He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

[@redeemed2517]

@@jjsmoleyAmen

[@redeemed2517]

Believe and receive, my friend!! It’s not about if we feel saved or not, it’s about what the word of God says. Acts 16:30-31 The jailer asks Paul and Silas “Sirs, what must I do to be saved? BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved! If you truly believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ then you are saved.

[@carpentertom2835]

Leave that church, I you feel condemned by the church you are attending LEAVE!! and don't look back

[@carpentertom2835]

I was saved without a church , I didn't repent from sins and didn't get water baptized , didn't know anything about the Bible, I knew about Jesus, I was at the lowest point in my life and cried on my knees asking Jesus to save me and he answered, so at that point I started going to different churches and that's when everything fell apart, I started questioning if I was saved and listened to so many different preachers and just got more confused and fell into deep depression, I had such an amazing experience before I started listening to man , I'm coming out of it now going back to just faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

[@EDD519]

he forgives ! thats what he DIED & came back for !

[@wtom04]

The vast majority of Calvinists/Lordship Salvationists come to their errant conclusion that if a saved Christian still sins or practices sin then that person is "unsaved" based upon a twisted eisegesis of Luke 8:6-7/Luke 8:13-14, Luke 8:8/Luke 8:15, 2 Corinthians 13:5, 1 Corinthians 9:27, James 2:14-26, 1 John 2:3-6, 1 John 2:9-11, 1 John 3:4-10, 1 John 4:20, 1 John 5:18, etc. In the mind of a Lordship Salvation person, the only saved person is the one that is described in Luke 8:8/Luke 8:15. However, a careful reading of Luke 8:6-7/Luke 8:13-14 reveals that these people are also SAVED, but in a state of stunted growth, spiritual atrophy/stagnancy, due to hindrances and obstacles in their lives preventing them from moving forward in their walk with God. It would be ideal if all saved Christians are in the Luke 8:8/Luke 8:15 category, but the reality is, there are way more SAVED Christians who fall in the Luke 8:6-7/Luke 8:13-14 category. It seems that most, if not all Lordship Salvationists fail to read Romans 7:14-25, and the reality of Galatians 5:13.

[@monicadhaliwal1791]

Please Help me I Believe Jesus Is The Son of God and God The Son of The Holy Trinity I Believe Jesus Shed His Blood and Died in my place to Pay for All my Sins He was Buried Then 3 Days Later Jesus Arose From The Dead!!! But I am struggling with some Sins that I honestly don’t know how to quit I hate my Sins But I genuinely don’t know how to stop them Am I still Saved because of my faith in Jesus or am I Not Saved because of my Sins? Am I born again because of my faith in Jesus or is there something more I need to do? Thank you for All your Help and Time God Bless you

[@wtom04]

Calvinism/Lordship Salvation and Arminian/Lordship Salvation has done much damage to the gospel and much psychological damage to many saved believers.

[@PotterSpurn1]

I knew Arminianism was wrong when after leaving the church, having backslidden from active discipleship but not belief in God himself, God still remained faithful to me. I never felt I'd lost my salvation.

[@CatzlovichCatnipAndCabbages]

Yes, it is possible to sin after being saved, it is possible for a truly born again Christian to fall into even the most grievous of fleshly sins but these born again Christians who have the Holy Spirit dwelling within will not be able to commit these sins and feel nothing about it. A Christian will have the Holy Spirit's voice speaking to their heart convicting them of their sin and urging them to fall down and beg the Lord for forgiveness, a professing Christian who can commit all manner of sin and feel nothing within themselves speaking to their heart telling them that what they are doing is wrong and urging them to repent is in a terrifying state between two frightening possibilities: The first possibility is that they were never saved to begin with, the second possibility is that they have been cut off from being able to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit because they have continuously refused to heed his voice and repent, these people are those in the bible who are described as "being saved so as by fire" they are saved but lived as though they never actually were. All of their works will be burned up as nothing that they did in life gave any glory to God, these people will still enter heaven but they will receive no crowns or rewards that they could have won had they been faithful and strived to do that which was pleasing to God, the bible also says that we as Christians can shorten our days on this earth by doing that which we know to be wrong in the sight of God. How shameful will it be for these Christians to stand before the Lord God Almighty and have nothing whatsoever to give back to the one who laid his life down so that they could be saved? Great shame and regret will be felt by these people who only just escaped a devil's hell by the skin of their teeth. There is something else to be said here about a Christian's ability to sin after salvation, just because it is possible for a Christian to sin and still be saved this fact should not make us feel comfortable with ourselves about committing sin, do not attempt to justify committing sin by saying "well the sin nature is just too strong for me to resist" yes, your sin nature is too strong for YOU to resist but nothing is too strong for GOD. There is always a way of escape, I am writing this to myself as much as I am writing this to those who are reading, we should never get in the habit of mentally justifying our sin, when we sin we should sit with what we have done and think about it, think about your relationship with the Lord, ask yourself: "do you love your sins more than you love God?"

[@genesis1156]

i cant agree with this notion that we are born sinners. That is infact total depravity and original sin. Eccl 7:29 the Lord says he created all men upright but we sought out sin. We werent born in sin, we were born in weakness subject to succombing to temptation. To teach that we inherently have a sin nature means that Jesus wasnt fully man if he wasnt born in sin

[@Northlandchurchstc]

Read Romans 5 sometime. Here's a couple of verse. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Jesus wasn't born of a man, he was born of God and therefore had no sin nature.

[@marekopawliko1]

Romans 6:6 Our sinful nature was crucified with Christ.

[@Northlandchurchstc]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but a few verse below that Paul warns us not to sin. So clearly those that have eternal life can still sin. However, we shouldn't use our freedom in Christ to sin. Romans 6 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

[@marekopawliko1]

@@Northlandchurchstc you are saying we have 2 natures and I'm saying the old one is crucified. So if one of them is dead are there still 2?

[@Northlandchurchstc]

Our belief is that there are still 2 natures in a believer. The old nature is crucified in the sense that its power has been removed, but we can still yield to its lusts and desires. Pastor covers this in his commentary and in the following message. www.secureforever.org/romans6 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2q6eWqMa9aLkKc

[@isaacdagwom2464]

Calvinism doesn't preach works or freedom from sin. I've listened to john MacArthur severally and I've never heard him preach complete freedom from sinning once a person is saved. As a matter of fact that will contradict what they stand for.

[@Saskinny]

"If you haven't made Jesus Lord of your life, you aren't saved." Adrian Rogers Isn't that terrible? Making Jesus Lord of your life is a WORK and occurs AFTER salvation, it is not an ADDITION to salvation. Justification and sanctification are two different things. We are saved by grace through faith OR we are saved by works. It is one or the other...it's not a combo or Ephesians 2: 8-9 is wrong. ANYONE who twists in works with faith to be saved is preaching another gospel. What part of "and this not of yourselves" is hard to understand?