If I Were You - Episode 243: Morning After Trump (Jake and Amir Podcast)

[@powmj12345]

This was actually some decent-ish analysis.

[@RacleandRaHill]

lmao people so mad in these comments as if j&a haven't been showing that they don't support trump for the longest. they have been showing they don't tolerate racism or sexism for the longest so why would they support a president who has shown these qualities in his actions?

[@RacleandRaHill]

this is also i really good analysis of the election so it's not like they're really naive about all this they sound like they know what they're talking about.

[@Decenium]

picked a random old If I were you, picked a good one it seems

[@RyanDuffy1192]

Oct 2021 and still can’t believe we elected trump

[@TheKennyMcormick]

does anyone know why electoral votes are a thing and why they still are a thing

[@cctomcat321]

They originally were for slave states in order to give them more swing.

[@RyanDuffy1192]

Jake and Amir 2032

[@samcavanagh7993]

"In the next 2 years we probably won't be thinking about trump as much as we do now" This...didn't age well.

[@JasperKazai]

Six years later, this non-comedy episode actually wrapped around and became comedy again. Their predictions/hopes for the Trump presidency were hilariously wrong.

[@Amlink]

It was one hell of an election

[@dickburns4126]

*erection

[@Amlink]

Dick Burns 1938 joke

[@dickburns4126]

Amlink CTB you're a 1937 joke.

[@Amlink]

Dick Burns savage afg

[@dickburns4126]

Amlink CTB Jk bro. massive fan of filthy frank :D

[@MemesPachecos]

I support everything you guys said! People saying Trump was a good choice are so stupid, they only get their news from Faceboook, Memes and shitty websites like Info Wars, Drudge Report and Breitbart. Don't know how they can say with a straight face that "Trump is a good person" "is the less evil candidate" are you fucking kidding?

[@benitotortellini4093]

He's better the Hillary "benghazi" Clinton

[@shredderofstrings3223]

Trump is better than biden

[@6590-w6v]

I'm sad to hear that these guys are so blue-pilled. I suspected it, but this confirms it. Hopefully they realize their opinions are not enlightened, nor any more valid, nor less biased than those of Trump supporters. I'm still gonna listen to the podcast show though.

[@6590-w6v]

Yeah, my sentiments exactly. Oh well.

[@bencarens2019]

+LedZepp1109 Amir is jewish, I don't think that should be grounds for judgement though. Also, they're not anti-white, they just acknowledge faults in their own culture that others may not want to address.

[@LedZepp1109]

***** They're both Jewish (Jakes mom is Jewish), and their politics are *effectively* anti-white. Anyone who advocates for the notion that whites shouldn't prioritize themselves in THEIR OWN COUNTRIES is anti-white, this is especially the case if they espouse multiracialism (which, statistically, entails whites becoming minorities).

[@bencarens2019]

I actually didn't know about Jake's Judaism, so that's my bad on that account. You make a good point. LedZepp1109

[@HighRoll-]

LedZepp1109 "prioritize whites" damn man we're all humans brother

[@michelleb.514]

Clifton Roberts for president in 2020

[@gilly_axolotl]

i blame the third party voters mainly

[@Enballgroda1]

Oh yes, don't blame Hillary for not being able to get people to vote for her because her being a terrible candidate is totally not her fault (not a Trump supporter by the way).

[@okaywhynot4728]

Well, Hillary and Trump both SUCK. Go watch Rob Dyke's WWYPTOTI 113, he rips the Clintons a whole new one; complete with citations so you can go check the articles out themselves. As for me, I'm not an American citizen, but I AM a feminist. Middle Eastern feminist. So's my mom, otherwise we would have never been able to leave a difficult domestic situation. And it's because I'm a feminist that I'm insulted by the implication that 'we NEED a female president right now, we've got her, she's not very good at all but we HAVE to settle because feminism'. A lot of people, for the sake of feminism, did look to OTHER female candidates like Jill Stein, Elizabeth Warren, etc. because they want REAL female excellence and ambition to be exemplified by people who give a single cellular shit.

[@sezerferhad7892]

I BLAME THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT

[@Darth_Xionn]

I blame the party system, bring back the monarch!

[@okaywhynot4728]

Kayla Fox I blame the First-Past-The-Post system Mainly the fact that most of the people who wanted anyone BUT Trump voted for everyone BUT Trump So the Republican vote went to Donald Trump, whereas the Democratic vote got scattered all over the map

[@shinjinobrave]

100 days in, still trash.

[@mikelor84]

how about now, aka 1200+ days in? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) seriously americans, november is getting close, time to show him the door

[@emmillyy.]

THANKS FOR REPLYING TO MY SNAP U MADE MY LIFE NOW WHN CAN I MEET U GUYS??????? @JAKE @AMIR

[@jeffcoad531]

Gold - Kiiara has been around for awhile now

[@JesseBusman1996]

My schadenfreude smile has been on since NY times said Trump was likely to win :D The leftist saltiness is just too good.

[@michaelcrozier8322]

Jesse Busman Yes especially because the only reason Trump won is because our system is flawed, and not based on who gets more votes

[@Enballgroda1]

If someone gets more votes and doesn't win, the system is flawed, no matter who that person is. Media was against Trump to be sure, but that doesn't really excuse that lackluster show of democracy.

[@Enballgroda1]

FXDayJob I'm not american. The first time I found out about the american elector college was in a history class when I was seventeen. Thought it was beyond stupid since. Thing is, whether Hillary leads by one vote or a million it doesn't matter, if you value democracy at all then whoever gets the most votes win. And it's not just the mainstream media but a variety of sources which come out with the same numbers. Hillary got more votes in total. Hillary should be the winner. I don't like Hillary, but that's how most democracies work. In the US this is not the case, so it's not a democracy. Also you do realise that most people who are liberals don't support Hillary Clinton because she's trustworthy or they think she will go through with all the things she's promising. She's bought, that is obvious to most (although sadly not to all). But a lot of people voted for her anyway because they didn't want Trump to win. I'm pretty sure most liberals would prefer to have had Bernie Sanders for a candidate. Clinton is hardly progressive/liberal, she got on the pro-equal rights for LGBT people really late, she voted for the war in Iraq, she helped Bill mass-incarcerate black people during his time as president and so forth. But of course there's always the people who refer to themselves as liberal who voted for her just because she's a woman and because she has a vagina she can do nothing wrong. Generally speaking they're often in the "You can't be racist against white people" crowd and I'm not a fan of them.

[@Welpme69]

+FXDayJob The DNC election was definitely rigged, and the media wasn't rigged against Trump, most of it were biased against him. Most polls were not as there is a very high standard for how to do empirical statistics of that sort. They werent even off either. Most of them had Clinton winning yes, but the very small victory to Trump (Which it was, considering votes, not the fucking college) was within the margin of error. Most media was misinterpreting that, but that is not the polls to blame, thats the medias fault. When people on here are arguing against the turnout of the election FXDayJob they are not claiming the election was rigged, as Trump were (and the thereby his supporters, as they were his army of sheep, believing anything he said), but that the system is flawed. There is a big difference and here is why: The democrats who are now furious by the system admit that the system works, Trump won fair and square by the rules. Its just the rules that are messed up. This critique as you surely must know is not a new thing. It was greatly up for debate when Bush defeated Al Gore in 2000 while Gore also were up by the popular vote. Of course this will not be debated when a candidate wins in a landslide, cause then the electorate and the popular vote will agree. But this is not the case, Trump did not win by a landslide, as he were down by THE POPULAR VOTE, YOU GET WHAT THAT MEANS RIGHT? (or is that number rigged too? I guess conspiracy theories are still alive and well) To claim the system is rigged or that the system is flawed is not the same, far from. Your final point just shows your naiveness. The United states is clearly a democracy and anyone who isen't an extremist knows that. Libertarianism (which has been debunked many times btw, on the scale of communism!) is an extremist position so i get your confusion and stupidity. EVERY acknowledged definition of democracy for both theoretical and empirical science has a definition that fits the American system. Its imperfect in many ways, as are most systems, and as you point out there are good and bad things to say about the college on the view of effeciency, justice and democracy. But to only define democracy as a state where direct democracy rules (which i guess by your tone and ideology that you do) then you are as stupid as you sound.

[@Welpme69]

I was making several arguments, they might have flown over your head, but ill try to cut them out for you Referring to the DNC and the polls i was actually starting out on agreement. I wasn't accusing you of denying the DNC corruption i was establishing a platform of agreement for the follow up argument. You said "It's funny to me that all of a sudden liberals admit that the system can be rigged because their girl lost - ." My point is the liberals are not claiming the system to be rigged, they are arguing the system is flawed, and there is a huge difference: One destabilize and shakes the foundation of democracy while the other causes calls for reforms to change what is already there. To argue that the liberals are whining like the republicans were days before the election is incredibly biased yourself. If you call an election a landslide because it was a great victory in electorals, but a DEFEAT for the candidate in the popular vote, then you are using that word wrong. I know you were referring to the electoral college, you posted the numbers for christ sake, I was simply saying you are using it wrong. Any defeat in a functioning democracy were a single candidate LOSE by majority vote is not a landslide victory no matter how you flip it, it just shows the states are greatly divided in the moment between urban and rural area, in a system that is fundamentally flawed. Second point, a constitutional representative republic is a democracy, so if your point was that the USA is a democracy AND a representative republic then your just stating the obvious. I could make similar remarks on the sky being blue. If your point is that it is NOT a democracy because it is a representative republic (which i think was your point correct?) then you don't know what democracy means, which was my go-to. Now on libertarianism its is first important to understand it as an extremist ideology. To run a society where all rights are just frame around private property and freedom of contract is, by all means, extremist. A position that has been debunked both philosophical and in practice: On the philosophical plan it would take to much space to mention here, but i recommend reading Will Kymlicka in "Contemporary political philosophy, 2002" on libertarianism and John Rawls "Theory of Justice" of which Nozick "invented" modern libertarianism in response in "Anarchy". In this great debate I believe Rawls comes out way stronger even though his work is earlier. Todays social philosophers still use Rawls definition of justice, no respectable philosopher use Nozicks libertarian justice, not even Nozick himself! (look it up, he debunked himself, and he was the mind behind modern libertarianism). To reality how would you abolish income tax, corporate tax and replace it with just one sales tax? No credible economist recommend it, many have criticized it, just fucking google it. I feel like its "in" "as a cool millenial" to call oneself a libertarian, like young socialists in the 1970's but nobody actually look it up, find smart people who criticize it and thereby challenge ones views.

[@michaelginnis521]

Trump 2020

[@fbsjake89]

Wow you guys really are in a bubble

[@dickburns4126]

Yeah. I felt like Jake and Amir especially the "Feminists" video was right on the button. But i feel the Zeitgeist has changed. No one cares about Beyonce and Jay-Z and Lena Dunham and Chelsea Handler. Hell, I was a liberal feminist until #Gamergate, The Red Pill, Anita Sarkesian, Sargon, exposing SJWs, and Hugh Mungus. It's this new rationalism that goes beyond ideology. It's been beautiful man..............................TWAS A DREAM!!!