If Ritsuka Had His Own Lostbelt In FGO

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@dionysiosbbbb
@dionysiosbbbb 6 ай бұрын
IRONICALLY the latest Ordeal Call seems to be entirely made for Ritsuka.
@quankhanh8533
@quankhanh8533 9 ай бұрын
Anyone ever think that if Gudao were to become a BEAST candidate, what sin would he be? I mean Ritsuka is essentially doing Alaya's work throughout arc 1, one can view it that he was Alaya's BEAST and in Arc 2 he was basically a BEAST going through the Lostbelts and testing the humanity of that world whether they deserve to continue existing or not which is what BEASTs are for. And he 'loves' his phh enough to destroy other humanity, so he definitely qualifies as a BEAST candidate. edit: I'm planning to write a fanfic with this concept so it would help a lot for some opinions
@eliasb.7240
@eliasb.7240 9 ай бұрын
That actually makes alot of sense to me anyway (I don't really know how the Nasuverse system fully works yet)
@JasonTyson-hj4mi
@JasonTyson-hj4mi 9 ай бұрын
And in power he is stonger than the third strongest grand in his own world currently in lb7 so he is definitely powerful enough to be a beast and miyu says in her voice line that ritsuka really love the humanity and for his sin maybe the « regret » because during the interlude of astrea we see that he want to be judged in the end of the story because he destroyed the lostbelts
@ericx6969
@ericx6969 9 ай бұрын
I would say pride because his dedication remember he went to save mashu he didn't have to but he did also he does make OD comments flexing in choices etc. literally without pride his demeanor and esteem would be way lower every time he went to destroy a lostbelt also EVERYTIME in lostbelt he remembers he can't let beast 1 goetia down because he swore an oath to do better
@mori7644
@mori7644 9 ай бұрын
@@ericx6969Would it be pride though? He’s not like Shiro in his ideals. If you really boil it down, he’s doing what he’s paid to do, his job. He didn’t become a hero by choice, he was just forced into it because of circumstance.
@cain7627
@cain7627 9 ай бұрын
@@JasonTyson-hj4mi what sins do we already have? Cause I don't think he can represent envy, pride or wrath, but he can definetely respresent the others such as greed, gluttony, sloth, lust and guilt or be something new like rememberance/memory?
@messiastenebris1902
@messiastenebris1902 9 ай бұрын
My ideal ending for FGO would be a lostbelt representing all the trauma Ritsuka went through. The ending to his story would be him facing a reflection of himself and his own feats manifested through his guilt and regrets
@kylepessell1350
@kylepessell1350 9 ай бұрын
The idea of the protagonist we've been playing all this time suddenly turning into an antagonist that we have to defeat... hmm. We see that they overcome their deep-seated fears of being replaced and fading into obscurity in Lostbelt 6. However, they could still theoretically at some point... when the story is reaching its last page and the journey's end is at hand... finally break and refuse to hand Proper Human History back to the corrupt powers that be. We see at the end of Arc 1 that there is nothing left for Ritsuka when all is said and done. In the world of Magecraft, they remain a nobody and given the opportunity to change the world for the better rather than return it to its broken state... well it's certainly tempting for someone who stores Holy Grails en masse to rebel.
@camelot4003
@camelot4003 9 ай бұрын
I’ve ask my self many things. This was not one of them
@Se_prpductions23
@Se_prpductions23 9 ай бұрын
A world with no mana is essentially just us watching the nasuverse stuff so basically bringing ritsuka into our world and letting him live a life were what he's experienced is just fiction instead of actual reality
@thesatelliteslickers907
@thesatelliteslickers907 9 ай бұрын
no, in the nasuverse the loss pf mana ends up creating something known as the GRAINS enviroment that is extremely poisonous to any and all life. the event of mana disappearing and the appearance of the GRAINS enviroment ending in the extinction of humanity was the story of a novel called NOTES
@Se_prpductions23
@Se_prpductions23 9 ай бұрын
@@thesatelliteslickers907 yes but I'm talking about effectively removing everything nasuverse and just plucking ritsuka into our world that's essentially his lostbelt
@NguyenHuuTrung_
@NguyenHuuTrung_ 8 ай бұрын
any and all life that NEED mana. Imagine a world just like ours in the nasuverse, but without mana. That universe has it's own laws, it consider mana a hostile existence due to it being alien. The humans in that world are just humans but without all the fantasical stuff, which will cause them to be *absolutely* alien to the average nasuverse human.
@Se_prpductions23
@Se_prpductions23 8 ай бұрын
@@NguyenHuuTrung_ at that point I'm pretty sure if a nasuverse human came.into our world they'd be very uncomfortable
@nguyenhuutrung3413
@nguyenhuutrung3413 8 ай бұрын
​@Se_prpductions23 uncomfortable is an understatement, we funtion under an entirely different unversal set of rules and laws compare to them. My thoery is that merely putting one human from our world and a human from the Nasuverse on the same plane of existence risk collapsing reality itself. Edit: or at least, their existences try to negate each other the closer they are.
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 9 ай бұрын
I imagine a Lostbelt with Ritsuka as Crypter would be a reflection of his experiences in the Singularities, so probably: A world in constant conflict with dozens of Holy Grail Wars going on simultaneously and hundreds of Servants fighting endlessly
@rhyssuy8361
@rhyssuy8361 9 ай бұрын
so basically the events before the start of fate requiem
@GnosisZX
@GnosisZX 9 ай бұрын
So many master probably unwilling ones and lots of servants
@sebastianpost7237
@sebastianpost7237 9 ай бұрын
So a world war three with heroic spirits?
@justicefall6300
@justicefall6300 9 ай бұрын
I think Ritsuka would have a lostbelt set in Antarctica or where ever Chaldea is located. I think the lostbelt would be a sort of thematic melting pot of aspects of all the other lostbelts. Like Ritsuka has to perform similar acts to those of Skadi, goes through some sort of immortality thing like Qin Shi Huang, and he slowly becomes bitter and hateful like Morgan. I think the cause for his lostbelt would be would be Fou not being able to resurrect Mash after the fight with Goetia. Also his servant would be Galahad or Da Vinci Alter.
@sonokawaray
@sonokawaray 9 ай бұрын
Interesting idea there, making Fou's decision the turning point. Imagining like a scenario where Fou remains unconvinced about humanity's value, doesn't revive Mash and eventually awakens as Beast IV. Unlike Koyanskaya he'd be a full-fledged Beast, and I'm imagining a Lostbelt where he "succeeds" and permanently alters the planet. Chaldea holds out as the last bastion of humanity as it once was, but it's a stalemate at best, more of a slowly losing battle. This is what makes it a dead-end timeline for humanity that would be pruned under normal circumstances. As for Ritsuka's servant/the Lostbelt King, with Mash dead I would imagine Ritsuka having someone else that reflects the situation they're in --- a normal person with the weight of the world on their shoulders, and with the situation being more dire than ever here would need to take on more power and responsibility than they were ever meant to have. Wonder which servant would best fit the bill here.
@justicefall6300
@justicefall6300 9 ай бұрын
@@sonokawarayBased on what you suggested maybe Emiya Archer or Alter, maybe an actual servant version of Rin or Sakura, a servant version of Hakuno from Extra, or maybe Sieg? Fou would most definitely be the Lostbelt King. I think that Galahad and a potential Da Vinci Alter would be their additional lostbelt servant minions. I'm just giving suggestion that I think might be interesting. I think Shiro Emiya comes closest to fitting the suggested requirements, but there might be a protagonist or character from another Type Moon series that may work better.
@sonokawaray
@sonokawaray 9 ай бұрын
@@justicefall6300 I was just thinking that Emiya would be a good fit. Either a version we know of, or perhaps a new variation. One of the other protagonists-turned-servants would be an interesting idea though. In any case, I'm imagining a version of them supercharged by Chaldea to give them the necessary power to keep Beast IV at bay, at a huge cost of resources that doesn't exactly make life for the surviving humans all that great.
@Ahdokobo
@Ahdokobo 9 ай бұрын
@@sonokawarayimagine a version of Shirou that reached Avalon being the servant and barely holding the line for all of humanity with Ritsuka, as you said. Maybe sprinkle few other servants tied to people like them and I bet it’d be awesome.
@silverman1205
@silverman1205 22 күн бұрын
@@justicefall6300 Well... Hakuno is an actual servant now so who knows at this point
@soraadcaelum2428
@soraadcaelum2428 9 ай бұрын
Idk why ritsuka having a lostbelt is terrifying
@quankhanh8533
@quankhanh8533 9 ай бұрын
because his Lostbelt would either be completely normal like ours, which is 'deadly' to all supernatural or a completely bonker of a world that take in his experience throughout arc 1 and 2 where ordinary people have to survive Demons, Gods, Beasts, and every monsters and phantasmal beasts imaginable. Either way, it's going to be fucked up for anyone trying to prune it.
@imatiu
@imatiu 9 ай бұрын
Because the guy/girl has determination, charisma, wisdom and empathy, if Ritsuka is ever put into a position of power he will fail in less than a month or become a weird mix of Lostbelt Qui Shi Huang, Iskander and Caster Gilgamesh and my money is on the second option more so than the first.
@Luzhong_editz
@Luzhong_editz 9 ай бұрын
​​@@imatiudont forget a bit of king Solomon's rizz/luck with women(since is rizz is just another version of charisma)
@Birthday888
@Birthday888 9 ай бұрын
@@quankhanh8533 That would be the twist yeah. I feel like Ritsuka's "twist" would be that his Lostbelt would have the lowest Lost Depth (E-) because it's so close to PHH, but also be the most dangerous because it reduces everyone down to Fujimaru's level of normalcy, and he can beat you with experience.
@duelist4512
@duelist4512 9 ай бұрын
I can imagine a lostbelt where an Alternate Alaya that was formed from the the memories of all the previous adventures as the Lostbelt King in the form of Mash fully realised with every Servant Ritsuka has bonded with being there as enemies instead and the Lostbelt itself will be like the Draco Event where you gotta go through ruined versions of previous lostbelts and the singularities, defeating everyone who aided you and your allies would be Counter Guardians sent by the Alaya we know to aid you. Or Something like that.
@grapesvine
@grapesvine 9 ай бұрын
I'm going to put what I wrote or Reddit: Crazy thoughts: Takes place in Japan (don't know when to make the stagnation time period), Mash is his lostbelt king, Fou is what is powering their tree of emptiness, and the seeds it drops are mechs being piloted by shadow servants.
@earljhonbenedictquiachon8641
@earljhonbenedictquiachon8641 9 ай бұрын
All fun and games until ritsuka starts summoning divine spirits as servants💀🙏
@digitalwarrior5862
@digitalwarrior5862 9 ай бұрын
for me, the lostbelt that Ritsuka would rule would be a combination of the concept of time and history itself since the whole Solomon/Goetia arc was literally Time-Travelling into incorrect Pillars of Major Points in History and correcting them and with Ritsuka also embodying the role Humanity's last and greatest defender. the Servant i see Ritsuka forming a contract to rule his lostbelt with being a Divine being would be Lancer Altoria, who gained Divine status wilding the sacred lance and being her country's last and greatest defender or the Greek Titan Cronos who literally could be called the God of Time and all of the servants that help Ritsuka in this lostbelt could be the manifestation of being the Last and Greatest Defender or embodying time itself. the location of said Lostbelt could resemble Chaldea which has the technology for Time-Travelling, the Temple of Time which was a key location for Goetia's plan to work and real life locations on earth that play a key role in understanding the concept time. this is just one way i see Ritsuka's lostbelt would be based on and what his potential servants that help him would be like. Tsiah, i would love to see you make a video discussing this idea more
@celestialambert1775
@celestialambert1775 9 ай бұрын
Crypter!Fujimaru paired with Avenger!Mashu as his (or her!) Servant... Now THAT is a TERRIFYING combo...
@Sir.Felix1590
@Sir.Felix1590 9 ай бұрын
On god
@celestialambert1775
@celestialambert1775 9 ай бұрын
@@Sir.Felix1590 And, to expand a little. In my head, Solomon is where Crypter!Fujimaru would be STOPPED. Goetia SUCCEEDS in the Human Incineration Ritual, we DON'T STOP HIM. So, Fujimaru loses EVERYTHING, hence it turning into a LostBelt, and Mashu, feeling the anguish of losing alongside Fujimaru, would Class Change from Shielder to Avenger, and be Rituska's LostBelt King (Queen, in this case).
@Alterego-ne7oi
@Alterego-ne7oi 9 ай бұрын
YES I SECOND THIS THREAD
@suru7064
@suru7064 9 ай бұрын
@@celestialambert1775Mash being a Lostbelt king would be perfect
@Picmanreborn
@Picmanreborn 9 ай бұрын
​@@suru7064image her fit (or lack of) if she turned heel 😢😮
@Least_mystical
@Least_mystical 9 ай бұрын
So I love the idea of it being a normal word for the lostbelt, and if we go along with that thinking. I think ritsuka servant would be nyarlathotep, why I say this is because in the Cthulhu verse, it has a main body that is outside the verse and a human body on earth. So nyarlathotep can totally work in a normal world, and it np is maybe teleporting the servants outside of the universe and defeating them with its main body. Or the second idea is the lostbelt made up of all of ritsuka experience, but the servant would still be nyarlathotep, but in their main body. Since the lostbelt be the definition of chaos and would fit alongside nyarlathotep being the crawling chaos. And this version of the np would be nyarlathotep just showing you what it has in store for the world or nyarlathotep would just hit you with every type of concept (since nyarlathotep is an outer god, it is above concepts.) Like seriously if nyarlathotep was ritsuka servant, all of the other lostbelt better be worried. Only one I think would stand a chance would be lb seven with ort, but if you read up on nyarlathotep, then you know how smart they are. So they could definitely come up with a way to defeat ort. As for nyarlathotep class, they can obviously be a foreigner. or a beast, Why I say this is because of how nyarlathotep views humans and nyarlathotep is the "most" human like out of every outer god. Also this ritsuka could be way more of a planner then normal ritsuka, we see how smart ritsuka is in the heat of a moment scenario. So add nyarlathotep to that mix and you got one of the most horrifying servants and master pairing.
@holyforce000
@holyforce000 9 ай бұрын
Hmm, if Ritsuka were to have a lostbelt of his own then he would be able to realize his potential as a Beast due to the extreme mental toll of all of the ordeals he went through with Mash as his side as his lostbelt King who will still be a Shielder class Servant who would be the only one who would be immune by the effects of the lostbelt that would pretty much render nearly all Servants who enter near impotent that which would later turn out to be a reality marble that Ritsuka subconsciously created and used as a dumpster to store all the trauma and guilt he endured in his mission. So pretty much we will be teaming up with Dante, Abby, Kiara and Oberon to deal with the grim situation at the back of Ritsuka's head.
@kingcrazymf9585
@kingcrazymf9585 9 ай бұрын
An interesting Lostbelt for Ristuka would be the world of DDD, that novel that Nasu didn't finish. Modern world with no magic, but everybody has the "Demon Virus," so you have average people who could punch through servants with no training. Lostbelt King would be what if Rituska became a "True Demon" from that world to keep it going. He'd have something similar to command spells, but for the "demonized" humans. So basically, he's the one master on planet of pseudo-servants.
@hmcdonald8815
@hmcdonald8815 9 ай бұрын
What if his Lostbelt is the world Goetia would’ve made if he succeeded with Goetia being the Lostbelt King
@JasonTyson-hj4mi
@JasonTyson-hj4mi 9 ай бұрын
We are not talking enough of the fact that ritsuka was the one who carried marisbury during all of his plan because if he didn’t beat daybit and tezcatlipoca in their 2v1 marisbury would have to figh ort at full power
@capetel368
@capetel368 9 ай бұрын
I mean fuck, I'm pretty sure all of the lostbelts were never meant to remain. Ritsuka did all of marisburys dirty work by destroying them.
@Picmanreborn
@Picmanreborn 9 ай бұрын
😢 bro spoiled lb7 for me..... I made it this far without getting spoiled
@capetel368
@capetel368 9 ай бұрын
@@Picmanreborn it is inevitable. Now allow me to spoil you ordeal call 1
@Picmanreborn
@Picmanreborn 9 ай бұрын
@@capetel368 PLEASE NO 🥺 THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!
@capetel368
@capetel368 9 ай бұрын
@@Picmanreborn Fuck em kids!
@twelfthknight
@twelfthknight 9 ай бұрын
I think, were I to design a Ritsuka Lostbelt, I'd bring in the Fate Extra lore. In this timeline the Moon Cell would've fallen to Earth after the moon itself fell to Earth ending the world. The Alien God's seed got digitized into its reality creating its own Fantasy Tree, after which Ritsuka would be placed in it. Ristuka - in this scenario - would agree to become a Crypter in a moment of weakness out of his fear of his imminent death, but I can't imagine the subsequent guilt not crushing him. So much so that his Lostbelt King then elects to erase his memories of everything related to Lostbelts and Chaldea, to make him believe he's just another mundane participant in this world. The crux of resolving the Lostbelt would ultimately rest in getting Ritsuka to consciously confront his own actions. As to the identity of the Lostbelt King, someone like Kazuradrop seems the most blatantly obvious, but you could really go wild with the Servants in this Lostbelt.
@neonsilver1936
@neonsilver1936 9 ай бұрын
Better candidate for this kind of hypothetical is honestly Mash. She was literally almost a Crypter, was in Team A, and would have been an excellent candidate for this kind of thing. Ritsuka would have probably made a contract with Galahad anyway, probably using himself as the host and becoming a Pseudo-Servant, a la the flashback/dream we see Olga have in the OVAs, and that would give him access to the Round Table, the Summoning Circle, all of the servants he made friends with, even giving him a chance to literally fight WITH them through all the crazy adventures he had, but would ultimately pit him against Mash as a Crypter. To me, THAT is a crazy alternate story that I would LOVE to see. Can you imagine how different Mash would be as a Crypter, given that unlike the other Crypters, who had defined personalities, goals, and flaws prior to becoming Crypters, Mash was mostly a blank slate? She would be "learning" most of the lessons about what it means to be alive from the test-runs that the Crypters had to do through the Singularities in Act 1, but colored by the people she'd be around, like Beryl, Akuta, Kadoc, etc. She'd likely be a real menace and her approximation of humanity would reflect on the Lostbelt she would govern in a really interesting way.
@Deathspectre
@Deathspectre 9 ай бұрын
When will you make don’t sleep on ritsuka video
@mrmagma5856
@mrmagma5856 9 ай бұрын
I think this would be a great story for arc 3 of the FGO, maybe Ritsuka was mind control by something turning him into someone who wish for things to go back to the way things was before learning about magic and stuff like that, making him reject magic and everything magic based in the series, with him rejecting the natural world and wanting to go back to the world he had in his mind in the past that he would make a Lostbelt that is like “normal” earth but it would be different, it would feel off, it would feel entirely unnatural because it is, this world wouldn’t exist because it go against the natural order of the universe. (I am sorry if this didn’t make any sense i just wanted to tell people my thought on the subject)
@markedelylumbao1609
@markedelylumbao1609 9 ай бұрын
Rhongomyniad as a fantasy tree filled with Noble Phantasms of Pan Human History Heroes. Heroic Spirits and their Noble Phantasm are one.
@lenott7480
@lenott7480 9 ай бұрын
okay, this one will be very random, but: I love watching, no, listening to your videos while doing something else. They make me so hyped and excited for fate&nasuverse all over again, while giving me more lore into what I've already known or yet to know. Please continue doing everything whatever it is you enjoy about making your videos, because they're very engaging, entertaining, and just plain cool. Love them.
@deimodeisongi4837
@deimodeisongi4837 9 ай бұрын
For the world i agree with camelot in the sense that the lostbelt would represent desperation, futility and a search for hope the vibe that camelot gave us. as for the physical place on earth it really could be any where.
@desmondmalone438
@desmondmalone438 9 ай бұрын
11:00 I actually love this one it you can say are origin point on how we made it can from our adventures in Shamosa and Fae Britain is how we somehow made a LostWorld our own subconsciously
@yellowdeceiver4818
@yellowdeceiver4818 9 ай бұрын
Ngl I definitely believe we're the loatbelt I don't think Marksbury was supposed to win the grail war and make chaldea
@DioDinero
@DioDinero 9 ай бұрын
What if instead of magic and mystery, the lostbelt has something like logic, or science- you could create parallel forces to magic and mystery that the tree of emptiness could be feeding/sustaining on. Then you tackle both the idea that the world is “normal” because everyone/thing has access to this power, and still have some sort of fantasy element to the lostbelt where even though it’s mostly normal you still feel like something’s off/wrong
@glitchedknights323
@glitchedknights323 7 ай бұрын
Why would it classify as a Lostbelt? My current understanding is that Lostbelts are pruned timelines where humanity can no longer progress
@GarkKahn
@GarkKahn 9 ай бұрын
Our friend is more than justified to throw a horus heresy at this point just with all the shit the ones who he-she helped throw at him-her, let alone the enemies
@caretakercat7176
@caretakercat7176 7 ай бұрын
most lostbelts their crypters had prided themselves against their lb kings and are conflicted. Ritsuka will bond well with their LB king instead
@HectorCotto97
@HectorCotto97 9 ай бұрын
What about his personal Servant? Every other Cryptor had one so hypothetically speaking the MC should have one too. Obviously Mash is out of the question since she's loyal to Chaldea, so who else could take her place? Since this hypothetical takes place before thwy officially enter part 2 then the only Servant available that he bonded with is limited but I feel like out of all of then Eresh is a perfect choice. Not only did she form a strong bond with the MC but there's also the fact that her whole deal is that she's the mistress of the underworld, the goddess of the underworld. She's essentially associated with death which is a natural part of life so I don't think it contradicts the normal world of this hypothetical Losbelt. So not only does it make some degree of sense but it would also be cute and wholesome to see Eresh being able to live a normal everyday life along with the person she has the most affection for in the world. But since it's the MC then they don't NECESSARILY need to be limited to 1 Servant like the other Cryptors, in all honesty he since this is his Lostbelt then hypothetically he could have any number of Servants that he has bonded with in part 1.
@Birthday888
@Birthday888 9 ай бұрын
The personal servant would be determined by exactly when History Diverged from it's intended course. I feel like that wasn't brought up enough in this video. My idea? Solomon. Because in order for a world with no Mystics, no mana, and no Holy Grail, something has to either prevent those things from existing or eradicated them in their entirety. And the only Person that has shown to carry that much power and performed a similar feat would be Solomon with his third NP. Plus, it would perfectly represent Fujimaru's desire to return everything back to normalcy that his LB King would be one of his closest friends that he lost on his journey. And the personal irony of this is that because of Solomon's actions to create this Lostbelt, he'll never be able to experience life as a normal human ever because he'd be the sole surviving magical being in the Lost Belt.
@sixamaterasu9842
@sixamaterasu9842 9 ай бұрын
I feel like Nasu just needs to go ahead and revive notes in its entirety. As everyone's been saying part 3 is the perfect set up. And fate doesn't respect it's own rules any damn way so for those who keep saying Ado and Gun God can't happen I mean- are we playing the same game?? Cause at this point we're getting to crazy levels of fucked with the story (in a good way) and Marisbury deploying archetypes or somehow directing them into our way (cause I don't really like the idea of him controlling them) sets up some of the greatest character development for the main cast thus far I mean hell I'm sure we all thought Ado was coming at the end of LB7 cause who the hell else was gunna beat ORT
@capetel368
@capetel368 9 ай бұрын
Us: Who the hell Is gonna beat ort? Nasu: Ort
@flipperflapper6682
@flipperflapper6682 9 ай бұрын
In the closing of F/GO the last chapter will be vs Ritsuka Fujimaru, not Ritsuka Fujimaru vs Ritsuka Fujimaru but rather just Chaldea vs Ritsuka Fujimaru. And s/he have every single Servants s/he have summoned+ another new Servant(s) that also summoned by him/her lmao.
@carlosgarza400
@carlosgarza400 9 ай бұрын
I could honestly see his lostbelt could be like Re;Creators
@mongooseunleashed
@mongooseunleashed 9 ай бұрын
If I had to guess, the break off point would be Nobunaga. Since Ritsuka is Japanese and Nobunaga was all about the power of the common man. Except maybe Nobunaga goes full Demon king and takes over with their full ambition. Then Ritsuka would have all the Japanese servants and deities at their disposal. Though a world run by Fate Nobunaga and Ritsuka would be wild.
@Luzhong_editz
@Luzhong_editz 9 ай бұрын
Nobe particles go crazy
@andrewevans4724
@andrewevans4724 9 ай бұрын
We learn in Lostbelt 6 that Ritsuka feels like they’ve dedicated so much of their life to fighting for humanity that now, with Kadoc back with Chaldea, they’re not sure what to do with themself and are worried what will happen if they’re no longer needed. You could definitely base a Lostbelt on that fear of being replaced/having no purpose. Maybe a world where Tiamat successfully replaced most of humanity with the Lahmu and the surviving humans have to grapple with the fact that they’re no longer needed by the planet? Or a world where we’ve mostly been replaced after an alien invasion. Or where we modified ourselves into living weapons for a war that’s now over and we don’t know what to do with ourselves. Probably the Lostbelt should be tied in with the mythology of some indigenous North American/Australian/African culture, since none of the Singularities/Lostbelts really explored those settings.
@jadus2977
@jadus2977 9 ай бұрын
If Mash Had His Own Lostbelt In FGO. I would like story with Mash take the role of Galahad as knight of round table trying find the Holy Grail. I would like see how she would interact with other characters like Arthur, Morgan le Fay, Bedivere, Percival, Kay, Gawain, etc.
@desmondmalone438
@desmondmalone438 9 ай бұрын
1:39 so servantverse logic
@jayenterprise1701e
@jayenterprise1701e 9 ай бұрын
Imagine after everything is done and the other lost belts are defeated, foreign god defeated but then nothing happens. Humanity doesn't return and we are just stuck on bleached earth. Then maybe you face yourself, like gudako vs gudao and you realize that in order to return PHH our reality has to loose or something. might be interesting to see how everyone in our chaldea might react to that news.
@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305
@mfwiloseintouhoubossfights9305 9 ай бұрын
The perfect vessel for the god of destruction, also maybe preservation. Gudao faces would be pretty wild
@stan8230
@stan8230 9 ай бұрын
I like all of these alternate timelines and I wish I could see more of them.
@criminalisticL3
@criminalisticL3 9 ай бұрын
Great video as always. Love the Type-Moon content!
@darakkriess1030
@darakkriess1030 9 ай бұрын
We also have the angelic artifacts which I think will be a thing in part 3 as well
@butterflysliu945
@butterflysliu945 9 ай бұрын
I think Ritsuka’s world will be more like the show 《Today's MENU for EMIYA Family》, and just add some of the Summer events in it like the Hawaii event . That got to be the world Ritsuka’s would want. A world where humans & servants live peacefully with the Gods . Sorta
@Luzhong_editz
@Luzhong_editz 9 ай бұрын
So servantverse ?, But also more humans ?
@Birthday888
@Birthday888 9 ай бұрын
Remember, the Lostbelts reflect the Crypters, not necessarily the World that they want. Ophelia, Kadoc and Peperoncino as prime examples.
@wyrmlabrynth2651
@wyrmlabrynth2651 9 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the world kinda look the way the backgrounds do back in LB6 when Ritsuka and Castoria are stuck inside the necklace? A mix of all the locations he's been in, but much more regular-looking, Including all the people we lost, the yaga, the children, etc.? Lb King could be Innana/Ishtar(strange fake), Abby, or a grail powered Galahad Alter somehow (banking on the constant holy grail wars idea somewhere in the comments)
@Emperorwolf999
@Emperorwolf999 9 ай бұрын
Crypter: Ritsuka Fujimaru Lostbelt King: Mashu Kyrielight (apotheosized) Lostbelt location: Chaldea Security Organisation Lostbelt identity: The new human order "kingdom of Chaldea" Lostbelt details: a world where servants and masters congregate in order to create a new base platform to start a new human history to replace the incinerated one
@philiptombe5708
@philiptombe5708 9 ай бұрын
I feel like Ritsuka's Lostbelt would be a simulation. Where in the video someone mentioned a lostbelt based on pre-singularities with no mana or mystics. Where any servant and human that enters the lostbelt would assimilate to his world and live the life that is in accordence to their character. For example: Osakebehime is a mangaka; Suzuka Gozen is a Japanese high school girl; Emiya is a chef; Jeanne is a nun. Nobunaga is a chunnibyou and so on. The lostbelt tree can be some form of architectural design that people wouldn't notice. In addition, the video also mentioned a Gundam world, I'll take it further of being similar to SSSS: Gridman.
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 9 ай бұрын
An alternative version of events where Ritsuka is killed along with the rest of Chaldea and the 7 Lostbelts fight each other for dominance would be very interesting. Imagine Zeus, Godjurna, Morgan, Kukulkan, Skadi, Ivan and Qin Shi Huang going at each other with full force.
@ern1609
@ern1609 9 ай бұрын
Isn't it supposed to be basically confirmed that Morgan would win?
@chaitanyabuddharaju3542
@chaitanyabuddharaju3542 9 ай бұрын
@@ern1609 Well, actually it's pretty much stated that if Chaldea hadn't intervened, that Zeus and Olympus would have won, although at the time, Morgan hadn't become Lostbelt King of Britain, and I don't think anyone knew about Kukulkan at the time. Regarding Morgan, she's kind of like the Batman of the Lostbelt Kings in that on her own, she's one of the weaker ones all things considered (she's definitely the squishiest out of all of them), but with the right preparations, she can punch well-above her weight class with things like Rhongomyniad.
@saintrider8926
@saintrider8926 9 ай бұрын
​​@@chaitanyabuddharaju3542she not squishiest just like your though. If you think her durability is bad why did someone like Caster Aesc have C durability in her servant sheet ? In order to weakened her you need to be as strong as Woodwose.The latter is an A-Rays who has organs of the waste heat of the planet from his predecessor, Wyneck. According to Spriggan and Oberon, the latter state Aurora can't defeat her, but the former knows the only one who can defeat Morgan is Woodwose in Lostbelt 6.2 Section 16. Lostbelt 6.2 Section 23 gives us a flashback of how Aurora received orders from Spriggan to take care of Woodwose when he was injured and Aurora ordered Coral to get medicine for woodwose in the town. The Avalon le Fae synopsis in Nrvnqsr forum claims that Woodwose is stronger than Tam Lin (Baobhan Sith, Barghest and Melusine) to the point that Morgan and Oberon Vortigern admit about his strength. However, due to falling into Aurora's trap, Woodwose ultimately kills Morgan with his hands. According to The BAMBOO BROOM DIARY (Nasu and Takeuchi blog)in Nrvnqsr forum in the page 31, after taking a hit in section 24 she could dodge attack from Woodwose, however she realized it was too late for him (he was turning into Mors) so she choose to be beaten to save him and kill him with stabbed his abdomen with a point-blank by use magecraft dagger. After Woodwose death Morgan finally notice the one who set him to her is spriggan. People actually forget Morgan Can fight against Six Bells Castoria , Percival , Super Mashu and Da Vinci. Six Bell Castoria around Lostbelt King level. She can shield storm border from Dragon Melusine themic rays. Storm Border only can destroyed by Divine Construct Level. That ship first time appeared in lostbelt 5.2 and the only one who can destroyed is Zeus with his lightning equal to Artemis canon , who capable tear out the planet. Percival is around Fairy Knight level section 3. Accourding to Woodwose in section 15 during the Tournament of Robins had Percival used Lost Longinus he can win against Fairy Knight Lancelot. Super Mashu is around High tier class. This statement come from Da Vinci even Ritsuka agree with her in section 20. That mean Super Mashu pretty much strongest than her LB 5 which blessed by Athena Kinomelea , authority to increase combat ability and imbue the recipent with combat ability skill and can shield herself from Zeus Lightning and Buffed 300x by Romulus-Quarinus which can damage 35% Zeus in this state.
@Luzhong_editz
@Luzhong_editz 9 ай бұрын
​​@@ern1609idk if she could destroy lostbelt tree's that are guarded by the olympic gods, Arjuna alter, and skadi, idk about the others, 7th lostbelt tree would probably not gonna be able to be destroyed with rhongomyniad, since the lostbelt tree is ort and is guarded by camatotz and kukulkan
@shauqiharris2772
@shauqiharris2772 9 ай бұрын
His Lostbelt being Gundam world would be hell on earth because wars being going on for years and a lot of innocent civilians got caught in crossfire between both sides. It's basically Universal Century brought into reality. One of the worst realities.
@glitchedknights323
@glitchedknights323 7 ай бұрын
The concept of us being a Crypter is quite fascinating, but I've come across a problem in this video and most of the comments. There aren't really many ACTUAL Lostbelt ideas. I'm pretty sure that a Lostbelt is a timeline where humanity CAN'T progress any furthur on its own, hence why they're abandoned/forgotten by Alaya AND Gaia
@arjunbapoen7573
@arjunbapoen7573 9 ай бұрын
The world we live today is ritsuka lostbelt🙏
@darakkriess1030
@darakkriess1030 9 ай бұрын
Ritsuka would basically become Lelouch Vi Britannia
@teweldeambassajir4856
@teweldeambassajir4856 9 ай бұрын
Also He would have Humanity Inherent Survival and Cruelty. Guns will be the weapons again
@Castoria962
@Castoria962 9 ай бұрын
His lostbelt would be the stack castle of liz/cleopatra/osakabehime
@nicktanicosilva2582
@nicktanicosilva2582 9 ай бұрын
With how the current story goes this concept is interesting. Tho If it's so close to PHH and if both GAIA and ALAYA saw this as a more better version (Big ifs) would they instead assist Ritsuka and make his Lostbelt as PHH. My thing is that aside from being normal we also have to consider his want/desire to SURVIVE since that's been Ritsuka's motivation to simply survive I think this might be a clincher since creatures, this includes humans, only want to survive and live. Maybe, an alternative Ritsuka. Guda vs Guda
@notthedeadweight
@notthedeadweight 5 ай бұрын
3:24 bro the face of Gawain 😭
@hanma-bi9up
@hanma-bi9up 9 ай бұрын
Why not an invincible lostbelt with Tiamat as a lostbelt king and his servant is beast draco if you do that with ritsuka in his current level in lb7 you have the strongest lostbelt and crypter
@funtimeclaw6667
@funtimeclaw6667 9 ай бұрын
Theirs only two questions that no one talking about 1. Their's a question I always wonder can phoenix become a beast of humanity cause he has so much knowledge throughout the years. Having the power to heal over time plus if you take him he's gonna come back stronger. 2. Can he be a grand servant seeing how he influenced the planet, even having names over city-wide. He could be more used if the primal gods decide to destruction of the earth.
@otakunemesis34
@otakunemesis34 9 ай бұрын
Attempt 89 of me asking you to do a video on white wolf's world of darkness
@ok-rx5eu
@ok-rx5eu 9 ай бұрын
Can you make a video explaining what's the wondering sea and what's their purpose ?
@karnas1mp
@karnas1mp 9 ай бұрын
Unrelated question but if every anniversary servant plays a crucial role in the story Do you think savior Aesc will be our servant in the next ordeal call chapter ?
@therenegade4482
@therenegade4482 9 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on the strongest Greek servant since when looking at them it’s confusing on whom are the strongest
@arcuslux516
@arcuslux516 9 ай бұрын
It would just be salt... Pure unadulterated salt.
@OnajTamo
@OnajTamo 9 ай бұрын
I imagine Shirou Emiyas lostbelt would be... Sword.
@chthonchaos1449
@chthonchaos1449 9 ай бұрын
Bring up gudaguda i think his lost elt king would be Maxwell's demon
@lookingforlove839
@lookingforlove839 9 ай бұрын
What if Ritsuka is the main antagonist of part 3?
@leaf1469
@leaf1469 9 ай бұрын
I have to admit I’m not 100% up to date with FGO, but I have to admit that this point? “Ritsuka’s Lostbelt” might as well be Chaldea since it’s made by humans and even the initial Storm Border was pioneered by Da Vinci, who is brilliant scientist without a divine connection. Most of the adjustments and additions to it are because the group takes the scraps of what’s left behind to make something even greater than before. Proper Human History was more or less made into a Lostbelt after everything started and we are more less showing everyone else why while our timeline is still bad, it will still kick the teeth in of monsters, demons, gods, and beasts alike to ensure we keep on going. If he did have a Lostbelt, I think it would be just the Chaldea as a slice of life anime where all his friends are alive and well. None of the bad things ever happened and while they “struggled”, everything all ended up okay. Where he didn’t need to end Lostbelts or fight for his life constantly, but instead hang out with Mash eating Momma Emiya’s cooking.
@wallycastagnir
@wallycastagnir 9 ай бұрын
ok what if ritsuka summons archer
@livanbard
@livanbard 9 ай бұрын
First its the blank slate status on the start of the game why the fuck he was sleeping on the floor, who is rituka exactly, that reflects the Antarctica location quite nicely. Second theme is their mind being quite literally open to invasion and their weird relation to the Count. In the original Monte Cristo evento, they made sure we noticed the D'If cell where all start is very similar to his room in Chaldea. Finally but most important there is also suppressed revenge feelings plot. Now the history divergence, how about in this world the Heaven's feel ritual never came into development, so the grail wars as we know don't exist. Because of such Billy had to finance Chaldea by even more unsavory means. We know he already had a hand in oil, so perhaps America and their obsession with the clock tower is a key player here. LB King could be Billy himself but Leff would be cool choice. On the plot it starts as POV from Crypter ritsuka he wakes up in the corridor but somehow Mash Alter wakes him, a truly alter version of Mash that was never revived by Fou. She convinces our guy that Chaldea is at fault for even created them (at this point she believes Ritsuka is also an experiment and they both died together). They take over the facility thanks the chaldea servant summoning system never existing the mages were not a match for Mash. They start enacting their plans for revenge against proper Chaldea and believe the Master is another person. But surprise, actual Chaldea invades the lostbelt and. Now there 2 Gudas, POV shifter to the guy invading and the section 1 actually starts. My intention would be this playing out like that: LB Billy founds about proper Chaldea and gets envious, he does some magic bullshit and summons Guda memories on a prepared homunculus. That is the "crypter". Mas Alter was actually summoned by proper human history, but she has high ranking mental corruption. That LB never had a Crypter its an anomaly on the bleaching of the earth. The thing about him being normal would not work, we know he is not Normal he is abnormal as a mage and as a human.
@TenochtitlanIsDaBestServant
@TenochtitlanIsDaBestServant 9 ай бұрын
Live laugh love tenochtitlan
@dominicwilliams7447
@dominicwilliams7447 9 ай бұрын
I'm thinking about all of them is one
@joenandez5880
@joenandez5880 9 ай бұрын
Assassin from the OG Fate would be broken in Ritsukas LB as his NP is just pure human skill maxed out. So in that world he'd be the same while everyone else is depowered or nerfed. Just walks around spamming his Swallow Reversal technique.
@TsiahIV
@TsiahIV 9 ай бұрын
yeah one of the first people i thought of
@joenandez5880
@joenandez5880 9 ай бұрын
Oh nice wasn't expecting a reply from you thanks for the content. Been a fate fan for nearly 2 decades and it's nice to hear about stuff I didn't know about fate from a more balanced viewpoint. Getting back on track with the topic. Would this also make angra manyu the one from ataraxia op as his only skill is killing humans and in this world technically everyone would be a normal human more or less.
@Se_prpductions23
@Se_prpductions23 9 ай бұрын
American lostbelt when? Never because America ain't interesting we ain't got nothing
@crocidile90
@crocidile90 9 ай бұрын
We did have a singularity, Hawaii was used twice in summer events, Las Vegas for Saber Hokusai, area 51 is story important, and while not USA, the Caribbean was a summer event too. I hope there is more USA servants like John Moses Browning being a Grand candidate because of how important and revolutionary his gun designs are (the tilt barrel mechanism was made by him and near ALL mag fed pistols use it), maybe Chris Kyle as a low rarity FP servant and have an event (or story chapter) taking place in Florida where it was fun in games before becoming a murder mystery al la CSI Miami where Kayneth as a pseudo servant (assassin to make the triangle complete) and old man Sherlock would be introduced. Also it would be funny if Himiko's soul mate (divined by her niece) turned out to be Gen. Mc Arthur purely for the fact his actions saved the emporer and united Japan.
@Se_prpductions23
@Se_prpductions23 9 ай бұрын
@@crocidile90 nah I'm talking like main story like the cu alter story
@ikram1572
@ikram1572 9 ай бұрын
@@Se_prpductions23 Salem?
@Luzhong_editz
@Luzhong_editz 9 ай бұрын
Ismt that the 7th lostbelt ?
@Se_prpductions23
@Se_prpductions23 9 ай бұрын
@@Luzhong_editz lb7 is death just death
@theriunhan4958
@theriunhan4958 9 ай бұрын
How about ritsuka and BB make a lostbelt what could happend?
@Zeferet.
@Zeferet. 8 ай бұрын
Is the outer gods really using mystery/mana/magic/magecraft? I thought their whole concept was being foreign to our world and needing to corrupt it to manifest, and that mystery/mana/magic/magecraft is merely thegateway to corrupt?
@DeadCat-nx6zj
@DeadCat-nx6zj 9 ай бұрын
Why not have Gun God as the main protagonist for the Lostbelt or have him be the true king and Ritsuka be the puppet king I mean think about it or don't.
@Rayden.345
@Rayden.345 9 ай бұрын
And it would be fun to have have a featuring between kukulkan and v/v with gun god and ritsuka
@joshuapasquince3121
@joshuapasquince3121 9 ай бұрын
Ritsuka ask shirou emiya & sieg two amazing people support create world lost belt making three them reach level beyond magic relied on connection & bonds,belift point built on sieg divinity & magic but use shirou reality marble create stable chair support ritsuka desire create loat belt need shared power but world built spiritual will strengthen will power strip from servant connection bonds & belift will shared energy management point debuff make so all servant & people need work together
@aayewhyy
@aayewhyy 9 ай бұрын
I need ado edem in game and notes anime no cap
@andrewsolburne292
@andrewsolburne292 9 ай бұрын
Anyone else feel like a separate vid for Gudako would be interesting? I know that technically Gudao and Gudako are the same person, but they do have fundamental differences, Gudao being generally more reserved, but stepping up when he feels it is necessary, while Gudako has a more outgoing vibe about her, which leads to her seeming more chaotic in the extended media. Thus, I feel if Gudako had a lostbelt it would be fairly different compared with Gudao. My rationale being similar to the Solomon and Goetia situation, though they saw the same scenes, they arrive at different conclusions. So for Gudao and Gudako, their Lostbelts could be carbon-copies, but I'd like to think their fundamental differences would lead to some interesting variation in the structure of the Lostbelts.
@MySkinIsntMine
@MySkinIsntMine 9 ай бұрын
To be honest, if they turned Fujimaru into a more alive protagonist instead of a self insert, Grand Order would have jumped from a 8/10 to a 10/10. He has the potential to be one of the most compelling characters in Fate due to his story literally having the highest stakes.
@JasonTyson-hj4mi
@JasonTyson-hj4mi 9 ай бұрын
And why not try to read correctly because currently he is more alive in the lostbelts and papermoon or the arcade collab I mean he motivated everyone in lb7 by making beni and protea move and fight ort during many hours while he was nerfed and about to die but he never give up and after that he beat daybit and Tez alone or just lb6 with castoria and oberon is enough or just him and kirschtaria in lb5
@ikram1572
@ikram1572 9 ай бұрын
@@JasonTyson-hj4mi People who say these are the ones that don't play and only watch the Anime and movie, they don't know much about Arc 2 and the LBs.
@JasonTyson-hj4mi
@JasonTyson-hj4mi 9 ай бұрын
@@ikram1572 yes i know a lot of people like that
@fortnight3138
@fortnight3138 9 ай бұрын
Cosmos in the Lostbelts arc waves at you
@MySkinIsntMine
@MySkinIsntMine 9 ай бұрын
@@JasonTyson-hj4mi Ah, guess I got to keep playing Grand Order then. I mainly started the game with an interest for the story, but gave up halfway due to me getting bored with Fujimaru. If what you say is true, I apologize.
@imperatordei6615
@imperatordei6615 9 ай бұрын
It bothers me to no end that Ritsuka can’t ball on the same level as other mages. It’s clear he can use magecraft; he has magic circuits, but never had time to train. All these servants and not one of them taught him a damn thing. If times an issue, he could’ve at least gotten a magic crest. There is no excuse why he shouldn’t at least have that. You got Merlin, you got Medea, hell, Morgan straight up married him and you’re telling me not one of them had the idea to give him a magic crest so he can fight on his own if need be? You’re telling me he couldn’t use a command spell and order them to make him one? In fact, being able to summon shadow clones of contracted servants could’ve easily led to him borrowing their abilities: spells, passives, some NPs; how did no one think of that? If Ritsuka is supposed to be a self insert, he needs to be able to fight on his own, not just give cheeks and pole to the servants and just be a cheerleader the whole fight.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 9 ай бұрын
Er... Waver, EMIYA, and Geronimo have all been teaching Ritsuka Magecraft, Kotaro Fuuka has been teaching him ninjutsu, and Scathach and Chiron have been teaching him generally. I do not recall what exactly Kiichi Hogen has been teaching him, though they have. Ritsuka canonically has lackluster magic circuits and no crest. Physically as a mage, his only noteworthy asset is an extremely high compatibility with Servants that happens to coincide with a personality extremely well-suited to that role. He is also always wearing powerful Mystic Codes. While giving him a crest may be a good idea, Ritsuka fundamentally lacks the raw ability to be especially noteworthy with spells. Where he excels is tactics, strategy, and recruiting others to himself and/his cause. This has been a thematic point for him and the game ad nauseum; they are unlikely to change it.
@JasonTyson-hj4mi
@JasonTyson-hj4mi 9 ай бұрын
Dude you are stuck on the singularity arc or what because he beat a grand servant and daybit alone by himself and during the arcade collab he blocked the noble phantasm of karna and arjuna and during the lb6 he was said to be stronger than a fairy knight and fight many time barghest in 1v1 so he is definitely stronger than most of the magus and kirschtaria who is an elite magus himself says that he is stronger than him after their battle and he fight during 20 hours against ort who is feared by most of magus
@hanma-bi9up
@hanma-bi9up 9 ай бұрын
Nah bro did you really read fgo because your statement is old asf 😂😂
@gawddamn9411
@gawddamn9411 9 ай бұрын
​@@JasonTyson-hj4miGenuine Question, how did he beat Tezcatlipoca and Daybit all alone? I thought he summoned or something, just asking.
@JasonTyson-hj4mi
@JasonTyson-hj4mi 9 ай бұрын
@@gawddamn9411 well there are many things because it was said by wodime and pepe that his combat ability are equal to kirschtaria who is equal to daybit and pepe and he is also using his own ability to summon shadow servants who are not his servants but copy of all of his servants with their np and it was said many that he don’t need chaldea to use his ability that’s why he could still fight even when he was dead in the world of tezcatlipoca and cut from chaldea his fighting style is basically the same of fushiguro megumi from jjk or daybit with his singular angel
@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139
@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139 9 ай бұрын
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