If someone's injured, the match has to stop | Wrestling Observer Live

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@coltman18322k2
@coltman18322k2 Күн бұрын
This isn't a WWE or AEW issue, this is a WRESTLING issue. Declare the match a no-contest, no result. When Hangman got knocked out the match was immediately stopped, that should be the norm, not the exception.
@thisgamegavemecancer1813
@thisgamegavemecancer1813 Күн бұрын
wish they did that for alex reynolds or matt hardy
@six6thdisciple
@six6thdisciple 20 сағат бұрын
NAH…WWE WAS DEALING WITH THE ISSUE WAY BEFORE AEW EXISTED…THATS WHERE “THE SHOW GOES ON” PHRASE COMES FROM…
@decepticonxhunter4850
@decepticonxhunter4850 17 сағат бұрын
JD wasn't knocked out though. That's why your argument is bad, as understandable as it is. He was able to continue the match. He just rung his bell on that dive. He didn't break his neck.
@suffermccready8662
@suffermccready8662 16 сағат бұрын
​@@six6thdisciple WWE has literally killed people
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 16 сағат бұрын
​@@decepticonxhunter4850 Wrestlers have broken their necks and not found out until several days later. They should've pulled JD out of principle. It's better to stop a match over suspected neck/head injury than to let it go unchecked and have another Perro Aguayo Jr. or Hayabusa situation. Besides, he was struggling to breathe. Someone should've been smart enough to stop the match and get him checked out.
@jacobfigueroa7817
@jacobfigueroa7817 Күн бұрын
Aren't the agents or match producers usually former wrestlers? Why not just task them with it?
@samoanjoseph1457
@samoanjoseph1457 Күн бұрын
And wouldn't they already be watching the match to make sure it flowed like it was supposed to?
@shawnconway6009
@shawnconway6009 18 сағат бұрын
I'm reminded of a Daniel Bryan match where he was wrestling and got a concussion and they stopped the match, and Bryan was pissed at HHH because he said that HHH got injured and finished his matches. Wrestlers are stupid like this; too many of them want to finish the matches when they get injured.
@damianatwood9298
@damianatwood9298 Күн бұрын
It's tough for the performer. They probably don't want to stop for fear of losing their spot or being perceived as unreliable. That kind of thing has to get worked out of the culture but it's probably gonna take a huge incident for any kind of real change. It'll probably be a death. :(
@JM-fr5ge
@JM-fr5ge Күн бұрын
I don’t think he did it out of fear it’s probably adrenaline that kept him going and he probably felt his ribs already broken and he felt he couldn’t make it any worse
@Matthew_shaw
@Matthew_shaw 21 сағат бұрын
Really good point here. There is actually a little bit of sociology research on brain injury in pro wrestling and wrestlers have said they will continue with a brain injury / concussion in fear they will lose a push or bookings
@liamfenech6609
@liamfenech6609 21 сағат бұрын
Losing my spot wouldn't concern me everyone has a a shelf life in wrestling it's more being unreliable that would worry me
@DudeinGA
@DudeinGA 20 сағат бұрын
Sadly, we've had deaths in the ring - Misawa's death in Japan from a backdrop suplex. Nothing will change even with deaths. Wrestling needs to begin to be treated like an actual sport and have everyone involved (wrestlers, referees, agents, management, etc) change the culture to reflect that. NFL normally stops play due to serious injuries (Antonio Brown notwithstanding).
@arrozconeverything
@arrozconeverything 17 сағат бұрын
You mean like Bhris Cenoit?
@richardwallerius3269
@richardwallerius3269 22 сағат бұрын
0:50 to start
@reallydude111
@reallydude111 Күн бұрын
Hmmm I don’t remember these guys going this hard when Moxley got dropped on his head and then proceeded to get dropped on his head a second time by Rey Fenix.
@blairdavis4734
@blairdavis4734 Күн бұрын
That wasn’t an obvious injury. Moxley no-sells being stabbed in the head so keep crying
@leewilliams106
@leewilliams106 Күн бұрын
Did he say punctured lung??
@Station_AI
@Station_AI Күн бұрын
Mox wasn't injured, or even hurt.
@GeneralMBison
@GeneralMBison Күн бұрын
But but but what about aew
@killemsoftly15
@killemsoftly15 Күн бұрын
Exactly he was unconscious and didn't respond to the referee and they still let him be dropped on his head a second time. Or how about Matt Hardy suffering a terrible head injury but that match was still allowed to continue
@Gwanzan3325
@Gwanzan3325 22 сағат бұрын
There's no excuse for the JD injury not at least taking him out of the match. It happened right in front of the announcers and Cole was doing his best to call for help. I don't think either announcer could believe JD kept on going.
@ykdavid
@ykdavid Күн бұрын
The issue is the same as when WWE started using the ref X sign. If you add another layer of caution it will be turned into a worked element.
@theexpertbc1175
@theexpertbc1175 Күн бұрын
The NFL has this problem. A couple years ago player named Tua Tagovailoa for the Miami Dolphins got pushed backwards and his head hit the ground due to the whiplash. He got up to walk it off but stumbled bad and was shaking his head. It was clear to former players and pundits that he had a concussion some fans were on twitter speculating in real time on twitter but was hard to prove he had one and Tua said he was fine and the Dolphins team doctor either covered up he had one or was incompetent and said it was a "back injury". So they allowed him to keep going. Players arent going to admit they're injured unless they literally cannot continue. Wrestlers have a similar mindset and its hard to tell if something is seriously wrong if they're powering through. It was clear JD was hurting but he audibly said he was okay, he was wrestling as if he was fine, and it was impossible to tell by the eye test he had broken ribs and a punctured lungs so hard to stop the match at that point. Its sorta a grey area. Unless someone collapses, has a visibly broken bone, or is completely out on their feet. its hard to make that call in the moment
@benespinosa6725
@benespinosa6725 Күн бұрын
that JD Mcdonagh bump looked scary see this is same shit we all complain about AEW doing because these hit risk spots gets nobody over they just do it just because that's the most tired trope in wrestling IMO.
@montana01
@montana01 Күн бұрын
Luckily it was a tag match for JD, but yeah, they need to “go home early” when they need to.
@jlyt18
@jlyt18 15 сағат бұрын
that bump by JD was terrifying, tough dude
@WhoisErikNash
@WhoisErikNash Күн бұрын
Wrestling Observer still charging ppl for a podcast smh. 🙄 get with the times. All podcasts are generally free they make their money from sponsors and advertisers not listeners and viewers. This is why I don't listen. Who the hell would pay 10 bucks a month to listen to Mike Semprevive? Lol that guy sucks
@cookslooking10
@cookslooking10 Күн бұрын
There are plenty of wrestling podcasts available for free, if you don't like Mike go somewhere else. I don't want to listen to him pretending to shave his testicles or wear an armband that protects him from 4G.
@AdamGalloper
@AdamGalloper Күн бұрын
Don't pay then. Dont hop on a youtube video JUST to bitch and moan. Go outside and touch grass PLEASE
@davetheforevervenom
@davetheforevervenom Күн бұрын
This is the actual best part of the video and isn't even in the video.
@carnagerulez312
@carnagerulez312 Күн бұрын
Dave has been doing this since the 90s and he's always had a price tag attached to everything he does. He might just be stuck in his old ways. All wrestling podcasts should be free. No one is paying this guy for his opinions in a podcast setting 🤣😂
@cookslooking10
@cookslooking10 Күн бұрын
@@WhoisErikNash Last night I actually wrote a post defending them and that's the one that gets deleted!? They can shove it then.
@Squadala9001
@Squadala9001 Күн бұрын
Stop the giant ads at the beginning of the videos jfc
@birchna
@birchna Күн бұрын
I find your takes interesting but these 45 sec ads at the start of your videos are not going to help you grow. It's an easy skip but just tedious.
@MrMario-tc8sl
@MrMario-tc8sl Күн бұрын
I don't care if Ivar gave a little hop, The fact that JD McDonough was able to lift him up for a back suplex slam with a punctured lung is absolute insanity. When he comes back you make him an unbelievably resilient baby face!
@RavenGlenn
@RavenGlenn 16 сағат бұрын
He might not have even had a punctured lung at that point. For all we know that action is what caused a broken rib to puncture his lung to begin with. Case in point why the match should have been stopped.
@MrMario-tc8sl
@MrMario-tc8sl 15 сағат бұрын
@RavenGlenn The moment his head whacked that table and Michael Cole was saying seriously guys, sent a doctor out here, JD should have been pulled from the match, but they can play like after that impact he was completely injured and he worked the rest of the match like that. It was an absolutely idiotic move for the match to continue but wrestling can do what wrestling does and make this a really good story.
@KMysterio
@KMysterio Күн бұрын
I wonder if Bryan could immediately tell when Undertaker got concussed at WM30 😂
@JohnKhinda
@JohnKhinda Күн бұрын
It was pretty obvious.
@pooldead7712
@pooldead7712 Күн бұрын
@@KMysterio pretty much everyone new.
@KMysterio
@KMysterio 23 сағат бұрын
When was it then? Because even The Undertaker doesn’t know after rewatching the match numerous times
@chikowashere
@chikowashere Күн бұрын
Where was this fucking energy when Alex Reynolds was knocked out and the wrestlers just did spots over his body, then a Young Buck picked him up and immediately kneed him in the head, all while the referee did fuck all?!?
@loserhimself4044
@loserhimself4044 Күн бұрын
BuT wHaT aBoUt ThAt OnE aEw InCiDeNt??? absolutely braindamaged, going strong for 5+ years, I see. Can't even turn off the monkey football team mentality when it comes to serious things, in asylum you go, mate
@dennett316
@dennett316 Күн бұрын
They've criticised an AEW ref in the past for not stepping in to stop a match when an injured wrestler got manhandled. They've criticised unprotected chair shots for a long ass time, back in the early days of TNA. This isn't a "Wah, they're ragging on my favourite company" issue. Grow up.
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 16 сағат бұрын
Comparing a company that had 2 years of experience, to one that's had 50...on top of an in-ring fatality that practically went ignored. What a false equivalence.
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@steven80406
@steven80406 12 сағат бұрын
@@dsadams17how is it false equivalence? The people involved didn’t have two years experience.
@simonelliott6497
@simonelliott6497 22 сағат бұрын
Its goes back to the whole badge of honor/pride thing, from Mick Foley carrying on with the cell match, HHH finishing the bout with a torn quad, to Cody wrestling with a torn pec, all of those matches enhanced the reputations of those guys also.
@Lionclaw
@Lionclaw 12 сағат бұрын
Odd how they'll ban piledrivers but high-flying dives to the outside, which are far more likely to result in injury, are allowed to take place in virtually EVERY match in every wrestling company. All that risk for something that isn't impressive anymore because we see it every match.
@christophercudney5896
@christophercudney5896 Күн бұрын
They need someone who doesn't work for the companies to make these calls because it seems that the people who make these calls are afraid to make these calls cuz they'll get heat. They need someone who doesn't have the wrestling mindset to make these calls. I mean that like the doesn't match has to finish type of attitude.
@liamfenech6609
@liamfenech6609 21 сағат бұрын
JD apparently collapsed backstage after the match was over
@DukeDurrango
@DukeDurrango 17 сағат бұрын
When are we going to talk about the epidemic of dog shit catches going on in the business today? No one seems to even try. Most catches seem half assed at best.
@fitzgerald434
@fitzgerald434 9 сағат бұрын
I'm so sick of people in the IWC making this about tribalism and not caring about the wrestler its no excuse the match should've stopped. I saw an idiot online making this about WWE vs AEW saying "Well WWE wrestlers have fighting spirit and will continue the match unlike AEW wrestlers"
@ArtimusPrime2025
@ArtimusPrime2025 20 сағат бұрын
You guys think that Bryan knew immediately? I'm just asking.
@flexingtonsteele82
@flexingtonsteele82 16 сағат бұрын
Absolute disgrace that the match continued. And Vince is gone…
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Triple bypass is the same. Shows suck still too
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Күн бұрын
I don’t care what company it is. I’d much prefer they put the wrestler’s health first. Just have Carlito take his place maybe.
@jordanbyford2693
@jordanbyford2693 8 сағат бұрын
What was it Brett Hart used to say the art of wrestling is to make it look like it hurt without actually hurting someone
@lzulas95
@lzulas95 Күн бұрын
They definitely should have thrown up the X. With that said though, JD is a DAWG. Massive respect for pulling a Trips and finishing the match. Again though, they should have thrown up the X. Thank goodness he's alright and recovering. Can't wait to see him when he returns in a few months.
@mbaC512
@mbaC512 19 сағат бұрын
the show must go on for wwe, if aew did this, there would be 1000 comments... since its wwe, boys will be boys
@doug2731
@doug2731 Күн бұрын
Suddenly NOW Dave & Bryan are on this crusade when HOW MANY TIMES this happened at AEW and not a peep? F off.
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Күн бұрын
What are you talking about? Bryan has absolutely criticized AEW for the same thing before.
@matthewthomas9194
@matthewthomas9194 Күн бұрын
Remember the match with Rey Fenix and moxley where Rey dropped moxley on his head 3 different times in one match. And still did two pilled rivers on him
@dennett316
@dennett316 Күн бұрын
@@matthewthomas9194 Yes...and I also remember Bryan criticising them for that, particularly the referee.
@jamesmaskell3743
@jamesmaskell3743 21 сағат бұрын
That was on Moxley and the ref and I doubt anyone held back from criticising that.
@patweed2909
@patweed2909 17 сағат бұрын
worst genre of comment on every video, just pretending Bryan & Dave are being hypocritical for not covering things they have 5000 video on already
@StevenMcGuane
@StevenMcGuane Күн бұрын
Matt Hardy 2020 entered the chat.
@paynexkiller
@paynexkiller Күн бұрын
Because God knows we can’t go a single video without pointing a video at *the other company *. Loser.
@haloichigo1
@haloichigo1 Күн бұрын
Yeah and they talked about that in length nor does that negate WWE's negligence last night.
@sense6472
@sense6472 Күн бұрын
@@haloichigo1 He merely said a funny how did you come up with that reply? hello?
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@commercialking
@commercialking Күн бұрын
How about Britt Baker? She’s got an MD. Her speciality might be dentistry, but she’s been to medical school, done her residency at a hospital of some sort. She’d at the very least know what to look for, having been a wrestler.
@samoanjoseph1457
@samoanjoseph1457 Күн бұрын
Well if you believe what you hear she might be on her way out, so she likely won't be doing it for AEW...
@samoanjoseph1457
@samoanjoseph1457 Күн бұрын
Can't recall the last time I saw a match stop instantly due to injury. All I can remember is they usually rush to the end of the match. Plus my concern with a worker watching is, is he going to "betray the boys" and out them for being hurt? Or is he going to keep his mouth shut because he's been there?
@thesportsguy126
@thesportsguy126 6 сағат бұрын
How in the world can they say this after 1 guy gets hurt, but the AEW style with needles, broken glass, concussions thats ok. Wow
@KanelingManling
@KanelingManling Күн бұрын
You knew it wouldn't take long for the but but but AEW comments. It never fails on this channel. JD is a heel, why is he doing babyface spots anyway. He should have not done the flip. The guy is lucky he didn't break his neck on top of the other injuries he said he suffer after the match.
@zachbrown1988
@zachbrown1988 Күн бұрын
Get Tony’s balls out of your mouth
@dus10Bish0p
@dus10Bish0p Күн бұрын
I'm sure you had a problem with the way the Bucks worked in their last heel run with AEW.
@thisgamegavemecancer1813
@thisgamegavemecancer1813 Күн бұрын
but but but aew then you knock a heel for doing flips in wwe, the irony
@KanelingManling
@KanelingManling Күн бұрын
​@@dus10Bish0p This ain't about the Bucks, I'm talking about JD, he's the one who got hurt doing the high flying spot.
@dus10Bish0p
@dus10Bish0p Күн бұрын
@@KanelingManling because you took exception to his injury coming on a "babyface spot". I just went through your comments. You've never once expressed disdain for the way AEW workers work. I just want to address your clear double standard.
@martezdetroit3164
@martezdetroit3164 23 сағат бұрын
And also Bret Hart kept riding on airplanes 🛫 during that stretch...
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x Күн бұрын
This is very different coverage that the Observer is giving following Bandido's concussion in the ring, while everything they say is right about this WWE instance - it's ultimately fake outrage since Bandido's was waived off with a paywalled joke by Meltzer. Cover one up, amplify another and people wonder why they say there's a bias when injuries like this is an industry wide problem.
@dennett316
@dennett316 Күн бұрын
It's not fake at all. They heavily criticised an AEW ref for allowing Moxly to take a piledriver/DDT (can't remember which) when he was obviously hurt. You want to talk bias, yet leave out many instances of AEW criticism that have happened over the years. Funny that...
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x Күн бұрын
@@dennett316 Serious tones for a WWE injury not going into concussion protocol, but Dave jokes about why Darby didn't get a concussion following Bandido not going into concussion protocol. How is that funny for Dave to make a joke about? Something ain't adding up. 🤷‍♂
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@Phantom7inCH
@Phantom7inCH 16 сағат бұрын
@@xShoTime83x Mrs.Yeller is bewildered what a shock lol
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x 15 сағат бұрын
@ Big E? Who was a more over wrestler than anyone in AEW ever will be.
@TheWill1225
@TheWill1225 18 сағат бұрын
Didn’t Bryan call the Moxley vs Fenix the best match he has ever seen when someone is injured at the beginning of the match. Where was this energy then???
@joeyhoser
@joeyhoser 20 сағат бұрын
Bryan is the type of guy that doesn't know what Spotify is and thinks the fact that a KZbin video is "free" is noteworthy.
@jpimoe7183
@jpimoe7183 Күн бұрын
I could do without the opening 45 second commercial. I'll unsubscribe if that becomes a habit. Just being honest.
@MrMario-tc8sl
@MrMario-tc8sl Күн бұрын
I don't think you necessarily have to be a wrestler to be a ringside doctor, but in order to be a ringside doctor you should have to go to the PC and sit in with the training, watch the wrestlers, how they act and all that stuff during their matches and training. They should be talking to wrestlers, bookers, and anyone else who knows wrestling on a regular basis asking them questions about how they should be able to tell if something is off with how they move in the ring.
@KrSwag51
@KrSwag51 Күн бұрын
You need a wrestler to watch for it and a doctor both on site to diagnosis the situation would help alot so they don't go too long. It is unfortunate accidents do happen but do the best to protect those people.
@chriskay1449
@chriskay1449 8 сағат бұрын
Who wants to tell Bryan that WWE does in fact have a doctor at ringside?
@dogred431
@dogred431 Күн бұрын
I've said it when AEW have done it and I'll say it when WWE does it. When it's that clear, on camera right in front of the announcers, that should have been called off immediately. And Bryan is talking nonsense. They literally have ex wrestlers watching on screen in gorilla and they still let it continue!
@haloichigo1
@haloichigo1 Күн бұрын
The fact that ex-wrestlers including Hunter are in gorilla and let this continue is insane.
@bigglou
@bigglou 13 сағат бұрын
@@haloichigo1 Considering that Hunter called the match when Bryan was loopy.
@iamdb1990
@iamdb1990 20 сағат бұрын
if only wrestling was safer and not turned into the constant spot-fest it's become in the last 20+ years
@stevemygoodman7809
@stevemygoodman7809 Күн бұрын
I think on head injuries you gotta override the guy even if he says he is ok.
@SamoIsKing
@SamoIsKing Күн бұрын
This isnt 20-30 years ago where working through a match hurt was worn like a badge of honour. Vince isnt there anymore, no one really cares how shoot tough you are. If someone gets hurt then the match should be stopped, or there should be contingency plans in place to call an audible.
@robbiebihari3411
@robbiebihari3411 Күн бұрын
Good to see Bryan hasn't changed since his days of saying dives in pro wrestling are too dangerous & need to be eradicated after the Jesse Sorensen fluke injury in a TNA PPV. Never mind that same dive has been done thousands of times before & since with no injury, Bryan was insistent in his usual give me attention so I can scream and play my gimmick way that these dive injuries are a pandemic in pro wrestling. You know the guy who's yelling the loudest always has the strongest arguments.
@SasukesSharingan.
@SasukesSharingan. Күн бұрын
I know this podcast isnt blaming a company for continuing a match... Keep this same energy for aew...
@dennett316
@dennett316 Күн бұрын
Wrestlers need to be deprogrammed of that "this show must go on" mentality that shitty promoters forced them all to adopt. Real sports have injury stoppages all the time...utilise that and roll with it to protect wrestlers. They're athletic and impressive enough without working through a PUNCTURED LUNG to finish a match. WWE is hotter than it's ever been, arguably more mainstream too...they need to drop all the old carny aspects of pro wrestling and reap the benefits of performers being able to have longer careers if they get the medical attention and recovery that they need.
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 16 сағат бұрын
"Sure, Owen died in the ring and they pushed his limp body aside and told the wrestlers to keep working like the good little slaves they are....but AEW had someone get concussed!"
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E too
@ColdSnapVA
@ColdSnapVA Күн бұрын
Video on a WWE injury. Four of the top five comments are about AEW. This is why I gave up. Bots and drones, baby. Bots and drones.
@thisgamegavemecancer1813
@thisgamegavemecancer1813 Күн бұрын
why r u so sensitive?
@keni95851
@keni95851 19 сағат бұрын
@@thisgamegavemecancer1813 because hes a pathetic hypocrite
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E too
@Phantom7inCH
@Phantom7inCH 16 сағат бұрын
@@keni95851Kendra=🌈
@rogerbabin8175
@rogerbabin8175 Күн бұрын
Great discussion by the way. I don't have a complete answer here BUT I do have somewhat of a solution to offer. Incentive through SEVERE fines. Some sort of 3rd party commission should exist to watch over this stuff when an injury comes to light. The fine for failing to stop a match AT MINIMUM should be equal to ALL revenue generated for said show PLUS all expenses involved in putting it together. In other words...failure to put safety first should result in a fine so severe that no one in WWE or TKO would be dumb enough to take a risk on it. You CANNOT just say HHH should do this. He's clearly motivated to take certain actions just as the wrestlers in ring are. A third party not paid by WWE, Netflix, TV or otherwise wouldn't care and just have a job to do to satisfy their own bosses. How you make all that work is complex I'm sure...it would probably have to do with having medical records of injured talent forwarded to a commission as part of the job among other things. The bottom line is this doesn't get fixed until you threaten capitalism. You can't just slap on a $5000 fine either because companies do bad things and just pay off petty fines all the time. It has to be absolutely crushing. Screw up at a Saudi show and its 50 million + expenses in fines. You better believe HHH will stop the match or TKO's firing that man.
@JeremyOz
@JeremyOz Күн бұрын
Big ad at the beginning, and still only a 7 minute clip. Nah.
@doubles7533
@doubles7533 Күн бұрын
I was more worried about the announce table
@rentoptional1524
@rentoptional1524 Күн бұрын
Is Bryan pining for a job with WWE to be a ringside medical spotter?
@OsamaBabie
@OsamaBabie Күн бұрын
Where was all this critic for AEW
@Therantguyyeazy
@Therantguyyeazy Күн бұрын
I mean its probably a concussion for sure
@TheSquigglesMcGiggles
@TheSquigglesMcGiggles Күн бұрын
Need a doctor who’s a worker? Alex Shelley is about to collect two paychecks.
@Phantom7inCH
@Phantom7inCH 16 сағат бұрын
Wow! Everyone still crying about AEW lol y’all need girlfriends
@paynexkiller
@paynexkiller Күн бұрын
Really, minute long intros.
@rackupboi727
@rackupboi727 Күн бұрын
Wait u guys can't be serious... I've seen people lifeless in AEW and matches continued 😂
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 19 сағат бұрын
Whataboutism is lame. Do better.
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@louiemykilla
@louiemykilla Күн бұрын
Have that same energy for AEW lol
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Күн бұрын
Okay Matt Hardy, Alex Reynolds, Jeff Hardy, Jon Moxley, Rey Fenix. Many more. AEW are way more guilty of letting guys continue after injuries
@QualtM
@QualtM Күн бұрын
Damn these comments are sad. A person was hurt and in danger, and we can do better, and you two are worried about your precious feelings. Gotta stick up for your fragile ego because someone talked bad about something you like. Children. JD needs to get better and pushed again
@carnagerulez312
@carnagerulez312 Күн бұрын
Ok nerd keep whining about pro wrasslin' like a lil weenie 😂😂😂
@samoanjoseph1457
@samoanjoseph1457 Күн бұрын
I don't even think it matters what the promotion is, it happens in most places. And if you're going to bring up Jeff Hardy then please don't forget any place he worked while high, as that was probably the bigger issue than him being hurt.
@dennett316
@dennett316 Күн бұрын
...and they criticised AEW for allowing the Hardy and Moxley incidents (not sure about the others). Quit making wrestler injuries a fucking tribal issue you loser, it's pathetic.
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Okay. Big E.
@megsley
@megsley 21 сағат бұрын
JD wasnt concussed and chose to continue - i dont know, i tend to err on the side of "theyre adults and professionals let them do as they like" unless theres a head injury.
@tonybankse
@tonybankse 23 сағат бұрын
My question is why bring this up now after a guy gets injured instead of addressing the wrestling styles of these individuals. Over on AEW you’re applauding matches where this is commonplace (high spot after high spot) very little to no selling. Some of those matches go so fast with so much i doubt the refs are even trained on or know the signs of an injury even though thats just speculation.
@isaiahlucero1525
@isaiahlucero1525 Күн бұрын
I think if the wrestler can continue, which JD definitely did, there’s no issue in continuing the match.
@mikem.7921
@mikem.7921 Күн бұрын
An illusion to wrestling 😢
@StephenPike
@StephenPike Күн бұрын
These comments are why people think wrestling fans suck.
@danielatkinson4507
@danielatkinson4507 20 сағат бұрын
I enjoy wrestlers keep going.
@sense6472
@sense6472 Күн бұрын
That time when Jeff Hardy got potato'd by Sammy and then proceeded to get GTS'd afterwards?
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@dus10Bish0p
@dus10Bish0p Күн бұрын
This channel will walk over an AEW wrestler's body to point out how unsafe WWE is. Clowns.
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@TheChzburger
@TheChzburger Күн бұрын
So you know ~*IMMEDIATELY*~ when AEW wrestlers get injured during their spot fests?
@eastsidenell
@eastsidenell Күн бұрын
If he says he’s okay, match continues.
@pooldead7712
@pooldead7712 Күн бұрын
That shouldn't always be allowed. Doesn't matter if they say they are ok.
@gabadiamond
@gabadiamond Күн бұрын
That’s not how it works in literally any other sport but nice try. You have to save athletes from themselves sometimes
@olaakande5581
@olaakande5581 Күн бұрын
They take bumps for a living. This is the same wwe that delays matches when ppl bleed lol JD took 1 bad bump, was trying to be checked out & then ran on top of the apron to tag Dom to enter the match Now unless u want doctors to stop every match & give concussion tests on live TV, there’s nothing a doctor is really gonna do wwe is a company where they’re taking ECW/AEW type risks every week. But it still ain’t ballet. Things like this will happen but they don’t go out of their way to make this happen
@eastsidenell
@eastsidenell Күн бұрын
@@gabadiamond the X means nothing any more I guess
@DSFking
@DSFking Күн бұрын
I think what the performer says should be taken into consideration. But the doctors ultimately should have the final say. If they truly believe it should be stopped, "better safe than sorry". He's got a punctured lung. What if it wasn't punctured on impact but afterwards due to continuing? They could've saved him from making things worse
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 19 сағат бұрын
WWE is an indy mudshow with a billion dollar budget.
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 16 сағат бұрын
Big E
@Bandana_Boi
@Bandana_Boi Күн бұрын
He was obviously good enough to finish the match. They may have went home early. And adrenaline is a hell of a thing, obviously JD had it flowing last night. Thank God he's okay, but boys- if he got up and nothing was broken, he was breathing and walking- why not finish? Same with Triple H's torn quad. You can't tear it any more than it's already torn. Might as well put another 3 minutes in and finish the match.
@Suspinded
@Suspinded 18 сағат бұрын
"That guy who stumbled out of the bar drunk was obviously good to drive. He got into the car and started it and said he was good to drive" People do not always have their own well-being in mind, especially when they feel they have responsibilities. Anyone with brain cells rubbing together saw something was not right and there were 4 in the ring that did nothing to mitigate the damage. Did working the match after upgrade fractured ribs to broken? Did the kick to the back of his neck mid bump cause the punctured lung, or make it worse? We'll never know, but it was stupid when he's flat on his back 80% of the match.
@Bandana_Boi
@Bandana_Boi 16 сағат бұрын
​@@Suspindedwrestling has been around for over a century and injuries happen. Literally on every show, there's bumps and bruises and hopefully everyone gets to walk out the show healthy. I don't think it's necessary to wrestle hurt or keep wrestling mid Injury. But there's also something to be said about a dude who just gets it done and gets the team to the finish line without making a gigantic spectacle of what happened. Just draws attention on shit like that. And if we stop a match for that, what- we're gonna sit here and do that with every match, go through it with a fined tooth comb and wag our fingers at these dudes?? C'mon man, these dudes are pros working for the biggest company ever known to mankind, wrestling- wise.
@GrahamM2341
@GrahamM2341 Күн бұрын
Oh yeah because AEW always does this 😂 could you be more biased 😂
@juanheredia9297
@juanheredia9297 Күн бұрын
Uh oh Bryan careful with what you say because with edrones and their free time... 🙄
@insomniac_biz251
@insomniac_biz251 Күн бұрын
There’s no way in hell AEW nerds are clutching pearls this hard with their car crash demolition derby ahh in ring style. STFU 😂 JD took his stock to the next mf level for being a trooper.
@Quatrixjs1
@Quatrixjs1 19 сағат бұрын
Lmao it will do nothing for his career except shorten it
@christophermccray6528
@christophermccray6528 Күн бұрын
The ref could've held up the x to stop the match, yes. But JD, despite the scary bump he took wanted to carry on with the match. If he wants to continue, that's his choice and the match goes on. Period.
@pooldead7712
@pooldead7712 Күн бұрын
That is negligence
@killemsoftly15
@killemsoftly15 Күн бұрын
​@pooldead7712yes but they we're not going on this much about the time moxley was knocked out in the ring and then was allowed to be dropped on his head a second time
@paulflewitt5599
@paulflewitt5599 Күн бұрын
No. Sometimes in any sport, the sportsman needs to be protected from themselves. Unless they literally can't stand, the vast majority will say they are fine to continue. Someone needs to be on the sideline to say no. And yes, although it's "sports entertainment," these people are still athletes and sportsmen and women.
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 16 сағат бұрын
Dumb wrestlers are why athletic commissions still exist.
@matthewthomas9194
@matthewthomas9194 Күн бұрын
Byan is a soft sissy wrestlers are supposed to be tough and work through injuries
@Playerzville
@Playerzville 11 сағат бұрын
Matt Hardy and Sammy Guevara Anyone 🤔
@EnthusiasticIcyComet-yq2bv
@EnthusiasticIcyComet-yq2bv Күн бұрын
"Hold my cable."-Owen Hart 1999
@pooldead7712
@pooldead7712 Күн бұрын
Not the right time or appropriate
@harijha7560
@harijha7560 Күн бұрын
Owen wanted to join early with Benoit and bray 😂😂
@oelboy
@oelboy Күн бұрын
Perfect timing on the joke! Very appropriate to the situation! ❤
@sense6472
@sense6472 Күн бұрын
Funny guy! Should be a comedian!
@isaiahlucero1525
@isaiahlucero1525 Күн бұрын
I think if the wrestler can continue, which JD definitely did, there’s no issue in continuing the match.
@dsadams17
@dsadams17 16 сағат бұрын
It's not about whether or not they CAN continue; it's about whether or not they SHOULD continue. A wrestler will be on the verge of death and say "nah, I'm good." The doctors should step in and save the wrestler from themselves. JD could've died. We're not talking a torn pec or a pulled muscle or whatnot; this was an organ that was punctured, more specifically a lung. He also had broken ribs, which could've punctured other organs.
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