If the Body Is Mind, Is Illness Neurosis?

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

Күн бұрын

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@Progenitor1979
@Progenitor1979 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ruben. I am also experiencing a health situation which appears to be leading towards a death of the body. I am in pain and fear yet also strangely excited. Waves of fear and exileration. I yearn for peace but struggle to stay with it. And so it goes...
@justgivemeanumber8215
@justgivemeanumber8215 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing this! You are loved by All!
@Progenitor1979
@Progenitor1979 3 жыл бұрын
And today I realize that peace is my nature, how can I struggle to stay with it? So I seem to struggle, and seem to suffer, yet always this background or diffusion, of peace. Strange. The inherent bliss of our nature is harder for me to see...
@bumpymoon5416
@bumpymoon5416 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you❤
@YossiSheba
@YossiSheba 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you feel better 🙏🏻
@messenjah71
@messenjah71 3 жыл бұрын
@@Progenitor1979 The struggle is caused by the temptation of the ego to have you identify with your body. You are not your body. Give this temptation over to the Holy Spirit and accept His interpretation of the body instead. There is no death and therefore no salvation in death. You are as God created you, perfect, whole, and eternal.
@soubhikmukherjee6871
@soubhikmukherjee6871 3 жыл бұрын
These words make us feel supremely happy.
@william5159
@william5159 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is a hard question to field. Blessed answer.
@piehound
@piehound 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Mr. Spira for a hopeful message.
@keithoyoung34
@keithoyoung34 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@mindfulkayaker7737
@mindfulkayaker7737 3 жыл бұрын
Any thing that we can observe is not our real nature it apply to the observation of a passing bird. but also to the observation of our passing thoughts, passing illness and ultimately our passing body.
@pamelam7491
@pamelam7491 3 жыл бұрын
What causes strong feelings of suicide and how can it be dealt with?
@claresmith9261
@claresmith9261 3 жыл бұрын
@@pamelam7491 they can really only be dealt with by going inward, feeling the feelings staying with them eventually you’ll be aware there’s 2 the ego self and something else that’s deeper, that prevents you from acting the feelings out that loves and protects always.... Talking to someone you love and trust will help too ❤️
@pamelam7491
@pamelam7491 3 жыл бұрын
@@claresmith9261 thank you I do understand completely what you are saying🙏🏻❤️
@claresmith9261
@claresmith9261 3 жыл бұрын
@@pamelam7491 So welcome ❤️
@KINGFLX
@KINGFLX 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was beautiful
@Tunnelmental
@Tunnelmental 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rupert.
@joanamaciel488
@joanamaciel488 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rupert, what do you think about schizophrenia? Do you think The Silence would help? If someone hears voices, and if Meditation and returning to our Natural Self, calms the mind, would a person with schizophrenia be able to witness the peace that already is?
@dba4292
@dba4292 7 ай бұрын
I am not Rupert but from my understanding awareness is not traumatized, bi-polar, or schizophrenic. A mind may be, but our true nature is whole and complete it is peace and love. Here is a quote from his website: «Iillness' is an interpretation by the mind. It resides in the mind. The idea of illness is as real as the idea of the body. In fact they are part and parcel of the same idea. From the standpoint of Knowing Presence, there is only itself. Knowing Presence simply knows its own unqualified being. There is nothing there to cure. It does not need a perfect body to reside in its own being. The problem is for the mind.» It may help a mind that suffers to see our true nature, but it will probably not cure it ever but for the mind it might give a lot of comfort.
@ninor6377
@ninor6377 3 жыл бұрын
"...the death of your body is cooperating, it is your friend, it has given you the impulse to return your being to Gods being." Praise be.
@ruthbelda3887
@ruthbelda3887 3 жыл бұрын
So wonderfully said.
@MrDesoto33
@MrDesoto33 3 жыл бұрын
A more refined way of seeing ourselves is a pattern or form of circulating Chi/prana with "lifetrons" which Yogananda wrote of forming the Chi/Prana currents.
@Ashish-nd3xj
@Ashish-nd3xj 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please elaborate on this
@johnhaller7017
@johnhaller7017 3 жыл бұрын
All conditional. " He that's busy being born, is busy dying" - Bob Dylan. Happiness begins to know this and is content to have found it.
@bzynkapatrycja
@bzynkapatrycja 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain please I don't know what's this about
@johnhaller7017
@johnhaller7017 3 жыл бұрын
@@bzynkapatrycja The conditional nature of our lives are largely uncontrollable. Some people do not understand this and believe that they suffer, not because of the uncontrollable nature of our lives, but because that they are not doing the right thing, ie that they can somehow control the conditioned process of life = happiness. Understanding the conditioned reality of life is a much more balanced way of dealing with this process and tends to create contentment with what is , rather than trying to change what is.
@bzynkapatrycja
@bzynkapatrycja 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhaller7017 thanks. But hmmm Is it not that it actually all does not matter...? Suffering is a choice. You can change it any time but... Actually it completely does not matter. It is all the way it's suppose to right? Plus believe is just a state of mind. One can pick any. And I don't think there is right and wrong thing to do...
@johnhaller7017
@johnhaller7017 3 жыл бұрын
@@bzynkapatrycja Insight into conditionality brings freedom.
@mansuralimirani4186
@mansuralimirani4186 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice thank you thank you so much
@Tommy7855
@Tommy7855 3 жыл бұрын
How would self-enquiry preserve the body?
@evavalverde7142
@evavalverde7142 3 жыл бұрын
Please, could anyone transcribe in the comments the woman's introduction, from 0:08 to 0:19? I've tried also with subtitles and I couldn't understand this fragment. My understanding is not fluent in English and I find this question absolutely interesting. Thank you very much.
@DanielColageo
@DanielColageo 3 жыл бұрын
Those last couple sentences were literally music.
@shoonyah
@shoonyah 3 жыл бұрын
Its a rather tough one. How do words reassure someone is looking at death in the eye that its ok.. that nothing changes? Moreso, if its a loved one that is leaving.
@happydeath117
@happydeath117 3 жыл бұрын
Poor lady. You can tell she was expecting something different. I wish her all the best.
@Hydrasword89
@Hydrasword89 3 жыл бұрын
In fact i think the answer might help her a lot. Dont think about motives and blame yourself. Just inquire.
@spellrush2097
@spellrush2097 3 жыл бұрын
Question: Does god (source of consciousness) have free will? Did it choose to establish reality this way or is reality the result of the infinite nature of the mind of god?
@jowr2000
@jowr2000 Жыл бұрын
If the body has no independent existence outside of Consciousness but is rather a manifestation of Consciousness, is disease also a manifestation of Consciousness? How can that be? Consciousness does not know disease, or aging for that matter, etc. So how can Consciousness manifest what it knows nothing about. To say it's natural for the body seems to imply that the body does have an indpendent existence.
@Rhombohedral
@Rhombohedral 3 жыл бұрын
Sickness old age and death is indeed a neurosis of the mind
@julianbates2040
@julianbates2040 3 жыл бұрын
what a question! ~Whaddatheymeanbyneurosis!?
@messenjah71
@messenjah71 3 жыл бұрын
Body and mind are not the same. They are different orders of reality. When you see the body only as a means of communication, you will heal because the mind has been healed. All illness, or dis-ease, is the result of a distorted perception of self, of a fragmented and separated illusion. Turn to the Holy Spirit in your mind to learn how to purify and heal your perception.
@messenjah71
@messenjah71 3 жыл бұрын
@Bojan V yes, very much so. Last Spring, the experience of peace came. The teaching became very clear afterwards. Peace be with you, Bojan.
@Elazar40
@Elazar40 3 жыл бұрын
Body and Mind, the Cartesian premise aside, are two aspects of local time/space duality. The question is, from whence is Mind in-formed? From an Infinite True Self, or finite Ego? The point being, the Ego does not survive. Further, the Ego cannot repair the Mind. Mind, rather, must be in-formed by non-local Consciousness. Too often, the Quest is externalized, and we end up looking in all the wrong "places." The Philosopher's Stone -- The Holy Grail -- is not far and away, but near and within.
@davidthomson802
@davidthomson802 3 жыл бұрын
here's a strange moment in the history of human consciousness, a man somewhere, let's say provisionally "me," weeps "into" this medium, this youTube whose essence he can't possibly understand. The man marks let's say the death or looming death of another man. Strange moment. This shearing of separate selves, these consolidations of separate selves, all this roiling in the strange river of time. There's a river near here, in fact, the Niagara, and I see this all in there. Pools circle, hold, loosen. Under-river rocks suggest themes of coherence, nudge the water certain ways. There are variations on the themes. The river flows away and is never gone. I mark, in passing, me, and this man, and that one. Don't know what it means to weep "into" this medium, but here I am.
@sergiohernandesarrraez439
@sergiohernandesarrraez439 3 жыл бұрын
Traduzam para o português por favor.
@movahedmosavi1596
@movahedmosavi1596 2 ай бұрын
@groundofbeing9733
@groundofbeing9733 3 жыл бұрын
Its stuck, contracted mind. Trauma and repression. I just created a tool that heals it in minutes.
@Ashish-nd3xj
@Ashish-nd3xj 3 жыл бұрын
Can you share that tool for a mind which is very anxious and not able to even sleep
@raw801010
@raw801010 3 жыл бұрын
The psyche affects your brain then the brain affects your body.
@herbertcrappell8309
@herbertcrappell8309 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏❤️
@jaguarazul
@jaguarazul 3 жыл бұрын
😍
@shobaneshwari
@shobaneshwari 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@artofunk
@artofunk 3 жыл бұрын
❤️🙏🏽❤️
@moonglow6639
@moonglow6639 3 жыл бұрын
It's all a dream, nothing is real. Imho.
@HialeahUnico
@HialeahUnico 3 жыл бұрын
❤🙏☯️
@ilzitek2419
@ilzitek2419 3 жыл бұрын
The questioner sounded like a robot...
@johnellis414
@johnellis414 3 жыл бұрын
If consciousness/God is pure love how can sickness arise in it...It does not make sense!!!
@bornuponawave
@bornuponawave 3 жыл бұрын
It is your “ideas and thoughts” about it that are deluded. It’s like saying it is bad or not good that a flower loses its petals. It’s perfectly natural and necessary. An apple falls from a tree and decomposes in the ground. The place you’re getting stuck, is in your thoughts about how you think things should be. All is well. Even in so called “sickness”. ✌🏻❤️
@johnellis414
@johnellis414 3 жыл бұрын
I think your choice of words is confrontation calling me deluded but nevertheless I can understand the analagy of the petal falling from the plant IF we just died peacefully in our sleep. Unfortunately, and this is the problem I have , is that people, more times than not, die with excruciating pain and for long periods. Even worse, people are born with afflictions that they have to live with their whole lives. What I'm saying is that we are limiting the idea of Love by accepting all this pain and suffering as part of the process of life. We need to eliminate pain and suffering by gaining greater understanding of Love. Now you can really call me delusional! Lol
@seangrieves4359
@seangrieves4359 3 жыл бұрын
One could say a mirror makes no sense, it's within its reflected images, ever apart and yet untouched by these images. As you are ever within and without yet untouched by the body the minds content and world plus experience. Experience when looked out without judgement or remembered belief, consists of nothing other than yourself. Let doubt be Doubtful. That knowing transparency like the sun in a blue sky never was clouded. The weather seemed to happen but the reality of the weather and the blue sky is the sun that illuminates these. No sun no weather. No knowing, nothing known. Without you, nothing is. Existence is not what we think. Its love truth and beauty is still the same with or without thought that often says otherwise.
@bornuponawave
@bornuponawave 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnellis414 I didn’t call “You” deluded. I called the thoughts and ideas deluded. ✌🏻
@julieplove9402
@julieplove9402 3 жыл бұрын
Sickness is an illusion. It is a belief in separate selfhood belief in bodies. When you recognize you are Infinite Self Infinite Spirit Infinite Mind and the impossibility of sickness you can look at sickness and see its nothingness. Rest in the peace of this certainty and sickness "vanishes". It only seem to be there because of a belief. This is true Salvation-- the Formless and Form are One. In the Omnipresence of God there can not be anything but God---here is the end of all ill forms. Love and Light ❤
@malabuha
@malabuha 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people think that matter is illusory? Everything is real. Except the boogieman 😁
@perandersson8001
@perandersson8001 3 жыл бұрын
Everything is real. What is not real or better say "true" is thoughts labeling/naming of reality into separate pieces, objects/realities and concepts, such as matter for instance. Matter is only a thought, a sound in the head, six letters following each other. Now what does the word/sound "matter" refer to? If you say that matter refers to 'stone' for example, ask yourself, IS the word/sound "matter" actually that which you call stone? Are they inseparable? The only "thing" in reality that says a stone is a stone, is the word/sound "stone". A "stone" doesn't say "I'm a stone", only thought does. The same goes for everything, matter included, and the word YOU or I included
@mvmcampos
@mvmcampos 3 жыл бұрын
@@perandersson8001 👌🥀🙏🏼
@wendymonette9958
@wendymonette9958 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful
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