This PC is almost $7000... Is it worth the price?

[@RFAurora]

My Origin PC was nowhere near as organized cable wise when I got it. I swear they only do it for you.

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

I mean, that should be pretty obvious. That's why secret shopper type series are incredibly valuable for actually seeing how companies actually treat their paying customers.

[@vento5314]

Because you give them money while sending it to Jay is a free ad.(which in turn makes money). I for one would never over pay for stuff like this.

[@xyrolinx3533]

​@@pieceofschmidtgamer Gamers Nexus always doing reviews on tech they buy anonymously is the only way someone should do reviews.

[@herehere3184]

Im sorry but if you order this under a fake address and name than jay2cents the build will be different .. id bet even the packaging will be less .. thats what i wanna see .. not hey they sent us this and they put their best game face on 2 market it 2 the world

[@mbrosenb86]

@@xyrolinx3533 when gamers next is buy some origin the cabling always looks perfect and it’s done anonymous

[@RitaBaumann]

You also have to recognize that they knew they were sending it to Jay. Of course it will be double and triple checked.

[@towncrier9944]

That's a bingo

[@MAXTORRACER]

100%. Corsair is garbage

[@C-M-E]

The rear fan set to intake, even if intentional, still bothers me. Beyond that, running a crap ton of custom cooling and it still hit 83*C is suspect at best. My air cooled workstation doesn't even get that high in the dead of summer when the ambient air temp is hovering around 80*F in my workshop and I'm running multi-hour long computations, renders and simulations at 5ghz.

[@manfredgooden5110]

100%

[@tfirejubrajubrah]

Where do you live at?​@C-M-E

[@ixCeRRuTixi]

Nearly $3000 in Origin tax? are there any actual people who would actually burn that much on a soft tube build? This just seems nuts... and this is excluding the fact that Corsair owns Origin and wont be paying market price for half of the parts. Gotta give it to them, they did fix all the fuck ups they had in their last pre-built GN reviewed and the cable management is a piece of art.

[@aurigold]

Is it actually fixed or is it looked over carefully for Jay specifically?

[@Ruhrpottpatriot]

And they still don't have a T_water sensor...

[@Jeff.78]

Corsair is the Aston Martin of the pc world. Good, but over-priced.

[@Drunkenvalley]

In fairness, sleeved soft tubes is a pain in the ass.

[@ixCeRRuTixi]

@@Drunkenvalley They come pre-sleeved from corsair. It’s the exact same process as regular soft tubes.

[@neddy1287]

To be honest it a ripoff on the price

[@patrickhartley1122]

Insanely overpriced.

[@frankytanky5076]

Even on the lowest ripoff tier they overcharge you liek 800-1000. Absolutely crazy how stupid people are

[@patrickhartley1122]

@@frankytanky5076 Taking advantage of young people and their credit.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

💀

[@rocortega2064]

Some people just have the money man, I don't but if I was swimming in it like Scrooge McDuck I'd still build my own stuff and would definitely buy this just to check it out.

[@patrickhartley1122]

@@rocortega2064 I have the funds and I still wouldn't because I'm not Jay. Like others have said, your average customer still won't get the detailed checks like he does because he's "reviewing" it. Even after shelling out 6-8k people are still finding issues on these systems. It's ridiculous.

[@VANILLAGERRILLA7]

This means nothing since you didnt buy it anonymously

[@Jzwiz]

flashbacks of gamersnexus covering one of these and ripping it a new one

[@Opsytron]

Nice . But rather to build a Gaming PC myself 😅😅😅😅

[@FilthEffect]

Thanks Steve

[@_iczyzy]

Funny how different a video may be when is sponsored and when they bought it themselves 😅

[@JeremyBell]

Gamernexus specializes in farming outrage. Don't blame them, but they make a ton of money by making gamers outraged at something that doesn't matter.

[@mbrosenb86]

@@_iczyzy well the build quality on the Nexus PC was phenomenal. There was just some software configuration that was done incorrectly, but it was an immaculate hardline water cooling build with an amazing cable management job.

[@tototakto4611]

That price is a joke right?

[@FishnTerps]

My first pre-built was a Origin. Top end at the time. 3090, 10900k. Fully loaded. Arrived with mismatched fans, backwards power cables. Cable combs un-installed. Etc etc. Never ever again.

[@FishnTerps]

"Among the best at cable management" bro, just stop.

[@invisiblearchives]

They were absolute trash at QA a few years ago. JTC, GN etc all talked about it. They *seem* to have been taking things more seriously lately, but that's already a joke because they've been selling the most expensive prebuilts on the market the whole time and should have been doing actual QA the whole time

[@timothygibney159]

Always build your own. You can't trust companies. They will always put some terrible PSU which blows up and takes out the whole system or an el vheopo board which cannot overclock etc

[@dferrith]

At the time lol... I'm still rocking 3060 ti + i5 10600K 🥲

[@animalyze7120]

Well if you know so much why would you buy a prebuilt to begin with? Literally the street bumb digging through restaurant trash and complaining about their Chef.

[@Yaan]

Trust me jay they don't cable manage or have a stable system like that send to consumers like us.

[@ShiftNova]

That is why I like how Gamersnexus do their unknown buyer Pre-PC Builds buyer reviews videos.

[@toddblankenship7164]

@@ShiftNova they fixed all of GN issues apparently.

[@Heresstuie]

Shock horror as ridiculously priced ultra premium spec pc can play games

[@artyomsherwin648]

You'd think, right? A prebuilt working should be a given.

[@sabishiihito]

@@artyomsherwin648 it *should* be, but the GN prebuilt reviews have shown that it often is not the case.

[@MrEShive]

ultra premium 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you mean shitty ricer corsair?

[@BatkoNashBandera774]

But can it run Crysis?

[@t.n.-js6ei]

Remember though, this is made for gamers, the same people that believe that their computers need color changing flashing lights for their computers to even operate.

[@schwolmart]

Me watching a 25min ad

[@Data_or_Data]

100% agree.

[@reesesman8821]

Yep origin is just insane thinking that's worth 7000

[@jjann54321]

At least Jay is (mostly) honest about it and even refers to himself as "Jay Shillington." He knows, we know and everyone's here for it.

[@BatkoNashBandera774]

It is actually a 3 minute 45 second ad, just spread over those 25 minutes.

[@SammyM00782]

If that's worth 7 grand, I need to start myself a new career

[@Internet_Hobo]

My first car cost about 7K.

[@craigrobbins2463]

@@Internet_Hobo and my car is still being sold for 7K by local dealers even after 8 years of inflation.

[@vr0k3n]

it's not worth that much by any stretch of the imagination unless the case is some one-of-a-kind handmade Inwin typething

[@bradhaines3142]

you have to account for labor prices, not just parts. custom water cooling takes TIME, cable managing in a way that looks decent takes FOREVER. all of that adds in.

[@nexusyang4832]

@@bradhaines3142 people always forget labor costs and more importantly what it really costs to retain said labor.

[@plymouthchat-vb5hm]

I'm saying this before I've watched the video and am going to say at this point, NO, it's not worth it. It might be worth it if it can do things other computers can't, but, if it's Windows 11 then it's just a normal desktop PC.

[@bensen6299]

what OS you want and win 11 debloated is great, yeah the Temps suck because there is only 1 360mm Radiator and no optmizatzons

[@jackalclone1]

Why bother with the downsides of colored coolant when the only place you see it is the res?

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Same should have use distilled water otherwise clear hard tubing would have been sick

[@Dexx1s]

To have it match the LEDs. That's the only reason.

[@MeatNinja]

@@Dexx1s If they would just put some LEDs in the pump/res and used clear cooling you could make the entire build any color you like. Now it's stuck to red.

[@Dexx1s]

@@MeatNinja Yes, but that's still clearly why they did it.

[@MeatNinja]

@@Dexx1s You're right

[@cKST2.0]

The fact that it has a footprint on the side gives you some perspective on how these parcels are treated

[@thenextlevel123]

Idk about anyone else but if there's dyed coolant going through my system I want to see it.

[@billbixby7788]

Yeah, I don't get that

[@johnt.848]

Even if it's clear Coolant I want to see it. I don't get those black sleeved hoses that make it look like an AIO.

[@Huskywolfy5]

Imagine running an 8core at full load with custom water cooling and still get 84c. To me thats absolutely insane.

[@ycageLehT]

Got rid of my AIO, rocking a Noctua NH-D15 G2, temps don't go above 71 Degree Celsius, and it's summer, it's cooling a 5900X

[@DocOrtmeyer]

if I OC my 10900k even a little bit, its instantly 70 C under load

[@arjanvanvugt1933]

Indeed horrible. My 9800x3d runs at 5400mhz all cores on a 35 usd PS120 cooler at 75c max in a small ass jonsbo z20. Wtf. Sponsored crap

[@fuzzyhair321]

​@@ycageLehT mine with a triple rad with 7900x staying cool at 60ish degrees. But I have 6 intake fans as well

[@ianbeta4]

You forget that AMD pushes clocks until it either A) hits the temperature limit or B) hits the voltage limits. I built a custom loop PC with a 7950X and when I did stability testing, about an hour-ish two times with a 20 minute break, it hit 90C both times. It never hits that during normal usage, obviously, but it can if I were to put a massive load on it. Edit: I forgot to mention that I was stress testing the GPU at the same time both times as a worst case scenario

[@nameinvalid69]

7000 bucks and no solid chrome tube works. not impressed seriously, compare something of similar price range from 10+ years ago which dubbed as "million dollar pc builds" (not literally, costs under 10k usually)... this is... extremely boring.

[@mrg09211976]

You would at least think it would have custom bent tubing either clear or chrome.

[@i_1mpuls3]

The temps are actually pretty solid until you realize that it's water cooled with a custom loop, then they become disappointing.

[@paulsilbernagel3655]

Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

[@johnt.848]

Worth half of the asking price at the most is my thoughts.

[@SimultaneousDarkness]

For that kinda money it needs to have 9950x3d and RTX5090.

[@olebrumme6356]

You can get that setup for like half the price. This is just beyond absurd.

[@zippydingding5558]

For 2 of them 😂

[@vento5314]

Fr comments already said it. You could have 2 complete 4k gaming pc's for that price.

[@Polyh3dron]

@olebrumme6356 X670E Hero Motherboard: $700. 4090 FE: $1600. 9800X3D: $480. 64GB RAM: $300. 2x 4TB SSD: $600. 1200w PSU: $200. Case: $300. That's $5780 before watercooling and I bet there's over $1000 worth of watercooling hardware there too when you factor in the blocks, radiator, pump/reservoir combo, fans, and tubing, and while I was typing this out I heard that it has 96GB RAM as well as probably more storage than I listed. Then they build it with that meticulous cable management and crate it, and they provide post-purchase support. Also you can't get a lot of these parts too easily, specifically the CPU and GPU. All in all, not that bad of a deal for what you're getting, and as I rattled off all these parts I'm surprised there wasn't more markup actually.

[@andrewcobb3919]

I love the straight 15 secs when he is just slowly wiggling the computer out of the crate 😂 1:40

[@BassheadJesus]

I was like OMG just grab it! lmao

[@yodafunk]

I'm honestly a little embarrassed for Jay that he would promote something so ludicriously overpriced.

[@BenjiThaDood]

He’s a sellout

[@CheradenZakalwe]

No one is forcing you to buy it, he even counts it as a negative in a sponsored video.

[@robertwiley8458]

I bought my BLD NZXT pre-built AMD computer on Thanksgiving when the sale 1st launched online for Black Friday in 2019 with extremely high specs for around 2 thousand but I wanted something that would give me the option to upgrade in the future and this is exactly you are talking about sure I paid a little over 2,000 but I've had this computer since 2019 guys that's a lot of value and the only thing I had to upgrade was the GPU from a 2080 super which couldn't even play GTA V to purchasing a Zotac Trinity 4070 TI on Amazon September 1st 2023 and I've been rocking every game since with the prices oversaturated because of scalpers I tell you what I paid I shelled out 876.57 yes expensive for sure but as this card became more popular the prices as of today on Amazon is over a thousand dollars used & new. It will be another 5 yrs if I need to upgrade I love saving money

[@frankytanky5076]

My wish is all these tech channels, gn included, stop doing all prebuilt reviews. The kinda people who buy these things don’t watch jays or other channels cause they would build their own. So you really just got these guys promoting what is basically just a 3k overcharge scam.

[@vamparooo]

@@frankytanky5076not true a lot of people still don't feel confident to build a PC. but if someone was to spend 7 grand then that person would most likely be the type to build it themselves

[@christophermullins7163]

Half of gpu sales are in prebuilts.. this is why nvidia gets away with low vram amounts. Ppl just buy "mid range" or "high end" and then never think about their parts again.

[@Vss077]

prebuilds also have amd gpu & they have enough vram. 99% of the users wont care about vram. like amd already showed, what does it matter to have 32gb vram when the gpu can only handle 10gb in a game because the bottleneck are the cuda cores or cu. even the 4090 cant use 24gb vram properly & ppl always have the "future" take. in future those cards are too weak to run those next gen games. a 16gb vram amd card that also use more vram compared to nvidia cards still has tons of room left, in the end on both cards u will have 60 fps with stutters & use only 12 out of 16gb vram.

[@Odyssey636]

Yeah vram means so little. My 4070 super with 12gb vram is doing far more than my 7800xt could with 16gb

[@christophermullins7163]

@@Vss077 I'll never understand this defense of low vram gpus..Yes a 4090 can make use of 24gb in games. Indiana Jones at max settings reaches well over 16 gb. And runs amazingly for having path tracing The main reason you do not see games using over 16gb is not because GPUs cannot make use of it, they most certainly can. The reason is because most gpus have such low vram amounts, devs are forced into optimizing the vram and shifting data in and out of the vram buffer constantly in order to get games running smoothly. If devs knew that all gamers would have 16gb or more and over 24gb for high end ultra settings.. the games would both look and run better. Nvidias GPU (and of course consoles) is holding back progress. I want gpus with 32gb and I want devs to use it so we can progress visuals. This is the reality. It only takes a few milliseconds to access all data in a 16gb GPU.. a 4080 can access all 16gb at a rate of 45 times per second. You need but a fraction of that data in order to generate a frame as your fov contains a small portion of the assets. I am an electrical engineer so admittedly I do not know very much about GPU architectures and how games are programmed in practice but it does not take a genius to understand that having and using more vram is a good thing for image quality. All devs say the same things.. if only the average gamer had a lot more vram they would have more artistic freedom and would not need to optimize for vram usage and they can focus on keeping performance consistent instead. 🤷

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@poitiers2853]

@@Vss077 This is exactly what I've been trying to tell people for years. It's a cat and mouse game of speed and memory for those that want to game in high settings. Either, VRAM is waiting on GPU clock speed or GPU speed is waiting on VRAM. Sufficient VRAM has been with us for a relatively long time for those that are willing to pay (2080ti, etc.) but slow GPU clock speeds have always held that VRAM back, so it was kind of pointless to add more at the time for gaming purposes. GPU's are faster now, but still not fast enough to utilize 24 or 32 GB of VRAM efficiently in gaming. Might as well get a 16GB card so that memory and and clock speeds are closer to parity.

[@ThedudeabidesDood-l5n]

For that price it needs a glory hole.

[@Olliinn]

32gb ram was the best upgrade ever on my mid tier 2020 or so computer. Being able to have 20 tabs open and still play a game is a godsend, and games in general run better, never hit more than 85% usage or so with a game running.

[@StanknRankin]

so cheap to do that rn

[@bradhaines3142]

if its just a basic pc for browsing id suggest 16gb, but if you do any games and dont close EVERYTHING out when youre done, just get the 32gb. ram is cheap these days. honestly thinking i shouldve done 64gb for mine just to not worry about it for a very like time

[@goopah]

32GB system ram is definitely beneficial these days, but GPU ram is what I'm always short on. I've got a 4080, and playing the new Indiana Jones game, my system ram is at 17GB, or about half of what's available, while my GPU is maxed out at the full 16GB. That's with Ray Tracing on, but at its low setting, and all other settings at the very highest. Ray tracing just murders GPU ram. So I'm thinking that 32GB GPU ram is where I'd like to be, with 64GB system ram to be comfortable.

[@dblgonzo]

I built my own 7800X 3D, 64gb 6400 corsair ram, Asus RTX4090, 4 x 2Tb M.2 Nvme drives, 7 Lian Li infinity uni-fans. Fractal Design Meshify 2 case. 360 AIO, EVGA 1300 watt platinum power supply. Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite MB. Cost about 6K. I have been building PC's for over 30 years and enjoy the build process. I did not water cool my GPU so add another $450 and the Origin system is not really that expensive. Good review, I might have to go the Origin route on my next PC. But at 64 how many more PC's will I have left in me?

[@cohiba1982]

Your age is showing.

[@wrathgaming2323]

Jay, I understand the need for sponsorships to keep the channel running, but if you're 'revamping everything,' this 25-minute ad doesn't align with that vision. This PC is ridiculously overpriced. It's impressive how GN avoids sponsored prebuilds, operates with more employees, and still pays everyone. I really enjoy your videos, Jay, but let's focus more on the Steam Hardware Survey price range. 7k for a prebuilt PCs is why we build them ourselves-especially for a channel centered around DIY custom water cooling.

[@toddblankenship7164]

Hell NO I want to see the top end gear I dont want Peasant shit

[@anticommoncore4065]

You're paying $2000 for the shipping crate. Because $5000 is still too much for this PC.

[@toddblankenship7164]

Too much based on what? Yes its expensive but what are you basing that on?

[@jonmh9668]

​@toddblankenship7164 If you've built/build PCs you'd notice nothing in there is worth that amount not even close.

[@toddblankenship7164]

@jonmh9668 i have 4, mine and three sons. I obviously have the best and it trickles down parts. I stratagize my purchases accordingly.

[@Zfast4y0u]

back in the days you could buy top spec pc for like 1500€ look this shiet, over 5000$

[@justso8776]

@@Zfast4y0u I recently looked into pre-built PCs and compared them to my own pre-builts from over 10 years ago. At least here the price has been steady at €1800-€2000 for an Nvidia x70 + Intel i7 tier PC for at least 20 years now. The only thing that has changed is that these now come with AIOs instead of tiny stock coolers. Some parts are more expensive than they used to be, but other parts are cheaper, so prebuilts as a whole seem to be the same or cheaper.

[@Cwrigh25]

7k is insane. You can get basically the same performance for 3500.

[@toddblankenship7164]

Well in Canada the 4090 is $3700 alone so ya, nope.

[@BrettWms]

Origin PC's look nice, but are a rip off price wise. I think their custom loops have like a 100% markup. No custom loop is worth 100% markup.

[@Mr3ppozz]

Jay complaining he sucks with cable management.... Me looking at the spaghetti mess in and around my system... Yeah Jay...you suck... sure you do xD

[@hankarmstrong3681]

Custom cut cables

[@funtik0609]

0:22 wrong bit? 🤨

[@TommyThousandFaces]

A very chill 83°C on the CPU, with 720mm worth of radiator cooling. That doesn't make sense to me, there must be something wrong with it. A 9950X would thermal throttle for sure, if it can't keep a 9800X3D in the 60s. I'd like you to take that CPU block off, slap an air cooler and see what happens.

[@wallywest2360]

Yeah, I have a 9800X3D on a Arctic Freezer III 420, it has never gone beyond 60s.

[@ungabunga115]

If I had to throw out a guess, it's probably the tiny reservoir that's in there, maybe not enough thermal capacity. Probably should have gone with a bigger one.

[@TommyThousandFaces]

I don't think that's the issue. I've seen SFF systems with Barrow CPU blocks with pump that had basically milliliters of water to spare and cooled a CPU without issue. AIO don't have any reservoir and they cool perfectly fine. I think it's either a wrong setting in BIOS or an issue with the block, like poor mounting or the jet plate somehow moved.

[@ungabunga115]

@@TommyThousandFaces That's a more likely scenario, yeah. Edit: Still doesn't change the fact that if I spent $7500 on a PC like this and the CPU temps were 83c and I had to diagnose the issue myself, I'd be super pissed.

[@thenextlevel123]

Thin radiators and the reservoir needs to be higher, the lower that is the more air bubbles will happen, it's a weird build but it's most likely just the Corsair crap. Like Corsair fans have some of the worst air transfer in the business. The 4090 is also insanely hot, so you've got those insanely hot demanding components being cooled by utter shite.

[@zredbaron7162]

FINALLY some true, high-end thermal testing. I am former "nuclear navy" reactor operator (I know a lot about thermodynamics) and I also have an outdated LOL computer science degree ('05). I built my own PC with a water-cooled 4090 SUPRIM and have since upgraded to 420mm iCUE / i9 14900K. The "area under the curve" that came with my upgrade to 420mm (from 360mm w/13900) as well as thermal improvements of the 14900K cannot be emphasized enough as an envelope-pushing challenge runner. I have done my own testing and profiles. I have been running CPU AIO as intake, contrary to my PC gamer friends but as you praise here; I knew this would be better in theory and proved it with private tests. I finally will be able to compare. If I find something significant I will write you and your team. Keep up the great work, I am a big fan. From one old guy to another.

[@zackzeed]

20:02 - No Jay. They're overpriced by A LOT. Are you maybe a little out of touch at this point? No, seriously. People that have the newest stuff get used to it and forget that the majority of other people don't have the latest and greatest, nor the money to buy it. Just saying.

[@Hasbert1988]

That 8Pin PCIe power connector is not for PCIe power. It’s for the USB C header on the right side of the motherboard to provide PD3.0 60W capabilities…

[@allanmalloy8266]

The trick to get great cable managing that tight and clean is you have to start from the motherboard side - your GPU/CPU/MoBo power terminatations, and tighten everything there and work back towards the PSU. I have done it before just because, and took some serious time on my first attempt.

[@MakinComputers]

You should not run fan curves for open loops on component temperature, it should be on coolant temperature.

[@alkestos]

but corsair doesnt offer water temp monitoring. even on this 7000 dollar system. LMAO.

[@CallardAndBowser]

Sorry, the prices are too high now.

[@vamparooo]

It's upcharged by around 3 or more thousand

[@blackbird42]

11:55 that chart would benefit from fluid temperature so much (I get it, it's most likely impossible without modifying the setup), cause that's what determines the temperature of the load-free parts, that is, if fluid is cooler than idle temperature of the device, the device won't heat up from fluid. People probably misjudge how hot the actual fluid is in the loop.

[@TOTKHub]

One thing I dislike about the Corsair RGB's (Other than the iCue software) is if you want them to be red, it's not an option, they look Pink because there is a white film between the light and the RGB

[@Odyssey636]

Its not just corsair. I have tforce delta rgb and they cant make white. Its yellow. They cant make blue without looking pink. Only reds and yellows look right for me.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@sopcannon]

@@Odyssey636 yeah i got a razer keyboard with the pink red as well.

[@Qalibrated]

That's either fan specific or software related, though.

[@123Suffering456]

To be honest, I find RGB is wildly different depending on the manufacturer as well. Like, even entering the same hex code will result in the colour looking different between two components, and often it's quite a big difference as well. And yeah, whites have a blue tint on my corsair fans. Glad I don't care about using white because that would really bother me.

[@OpsJoint]

Telling us how great having crate service is while showing us the side of the crate with a humongous boot print on it. Excellent 👌

[@-Devy-]

A boot print makes crate service not worth it? That's some 0 IQ logic.

[@OpsJoint]

@-Devy- Friend, I think you misunderstood my comment. I meant that it was a masterful way to show why you want crate service. Especially for something this expensive and delicate.

[@yodafunk]

so what... like a $7000 PC that should be closer to $3500.

[@MeatNinja]

Easily hits 4.5k with the 4090 and all the water cooling parts in there

[@Eclipse-lw4vf]

@@MeatNinjaif not a little more tbh

[@jm9371]

Top spec.. well built. This build is for people with more money than time to DIY a crazy build themselves. Your average Joe (myself included) wont buy this but you have to admit it is a near perfect build. Origin is showing off what that they can kick out for a top build; I get it.

[@theghostleader140]

If you build it yourself it'll be around $4.5k so a mark-up of $3k is insanely expensive.

[@robertwiley8458]

I bought my BLD NZXT pre-built AMD computer on Thanksgiving when the sale 1st launched online for Black Friday in 2019 with extremely high specs for around 2 thousand but I wanted something that would give me the option to upgrade in the future and this is exactly you are talking about sure I paid a little over 2,000 but I've had this computer since 2019 guys that's a lot of value and the only thing I had to upgrade was the GPU from a 2080 super which couldn't even play GTA V to purchasing a Zotac Trinity 4070 TI on Amazon September 1st 2023 and I've been rocking every game since with the prices oversaturated because of scalpers I tell you what I paid I shelled out 876.57 yes expensive for sure but as this card became more popular the prices as of today on Amazon is over a thousand dollars used & new. It will be another 5 yrs if I need to upgrade I love saving money

[@Preske]

Jay, Hear me out. Maybe ask for a tour in their build-shop so you can see how they build them (and steal with your eyes).

[@ronnie8274]

that rear fan is also intake

[@ryowildcat3885]

Right, for 7000$ they should got that right

[@duggydo]

I would love to see a breakdown of the component prices to see what the build markup is for this one.

[@toddblankenship7164]

do it then it's pretty easy lol

[@duggydo]

@@toddblankenship7164 I tried to find all the specs. I can't find this same PC at that price on their website.

[@renaissanceman2075]

22:22 Yes, please, Jay... use a car radiator and fan for a pc build and pair it up with a sim-rig. I need a dirty performance based racecar PC.

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

Lower noise is one of the benefits of water cooling and why I went overkill with my own, got a 520mm and a 480mm rad with the fans set to a static speed. Whisper quiet with both temps below 60c (gaming).

[@Odyssey636]

Eh i have 2 140mm and 5 120mm in my case and the case sits right beside me and you can barely hear it when playing something like elden ring.

[@revanxl5612]

In my old build I had Corsair sp fans that were full blast all the time and I couldn’t hear it when gaming either.🤷🏻‍♂️ My headset volume completely washed out any sound my pc made😂😂

[@MeatNinja]

Gaming is not that intensive tbh. Went from full custom loop with three rads to all air-cooled and yeah it's a bit louder but totally fine. As long as you know how to tune the fans and don't mind the parts running a bit hotter, the difference in noise is small. Idle is dead silent compared to the pump noise of the custom loop. And when I game I put on headphones... So really my experience became even more silent than the old custom loop.

[@Dr_Aien]

You guys should look into removing the auto translation of your videos title into different languages. I'm french but watch a majority of english content and youtube is absolutely destroying any meaning your titles have when switching it to french. From what I understand, it's not something i can fix on my side as a viewer, and the channel owner has to change some settings on the video to prevent it from happening. Maybe you want it to happen thinking it might draw more views, either way i'm just expressing my opinion, and my opinion is that this google feature sucks. Sorry this comment wasn't related to the video.

[@DigitalHabit]

I love the sleeved tubing, it does make it a little too similar to AIO's, but honestly it looks cleaner and sleek because of it

[@mhx47]

And it talks to me in Italian when casting on TV with no option to change back to English. Well done auto translation!

[@khaychi]

If you wanna flush money down the toilet, at least wait a month for 5090 release. 🙈

[@revanxl5612]

Is no one gonna talk about how that rear fan appears to be set up as intake instead of exhaust?

[@frickinlazer8182]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@Xfade81]

is a good thing. no tower cooler, it's supplying cold air straight to the 360 rad.

[@johngonzalez9621]

i dont think it matters much, it probably helps for positive pressure inside the case also

[@makarenkoa]

What’s the problem with that? The goal is to create a positive pressure environment, isn’t it? All the cooling is meant to be done by the 360 radiator anyway

[@NoName-cu4gr]

as others have said - positive pressure... although with the other 3 intakes cooling a radiator the closer to neutral the better. Don't forget the PSU will be adding neg pressure too.

[@BiGG_X]

That cabling is clean. Beautiful work there. Something we did when building wind towers was use a cable as a template with several different color coded lengths which made quick clean lugging for the transformers. Granted there are a lot less high voltage wires in a transformer compared to all the wiring in a PC but they build this same box over and over. They could easily have a wiring harness template since they do so many of them. They could possibly manage/tie the wiring before it even goes in the box. A few changes here and there per order wouldnt hurt their efficiency to bad.

[@skinchen]

Now Jay you know these young bucks don't know anything about Phil Collins lol

[@idkafknhandlebrah]

I doubt the difference between a $3500 pc and a $7000 pc is worth double

[@AXWagon]

0:08 "Y'all know the drill." Yes, he goes by Dewalt, thank you for introducing him!

[@RheyneMusic]

The system looks excellent! I really like the black sleeved tubing, too. I believe the extra 8-pin PCIe power socket under the mobo's 24pin is for PD (power delivery) on the front panel USB ports. It's not supplying any additional power to the GPU, despite being keyed for PCIe power.

[@ZinoAmare]

the best youtuber for Cable management is a guy in Philipines called Declassified systems.

[@GloriousKev]

I love this case. My wife got it for me for Christmas. It's inexpensive but a pleasure to build in.

[@chiphuizinga3211]

4°c is actuality a substantial difference...

[@eskieman3948]

Yes, indeed - just under 40 degrees Fahrenheit.

[@jaswaggon]

Great video Jay

[@mcwolfbeast]

Needs "In the Air tonight" as a theme song ;)

[@justinbarnes8834]

That song was Phil Collins solo, perhaps 'Land of confusion' would work for you :)

[@dockeydidit]

To get wires to look like that you would pull all of them through multiple combs at once and zip between the combs to form the bundle. Then trim to length and install connectors.

[@blai5e730]

Why does Origin use the CPU as the source for the fan curve rather than liquid temperature? Unless things have changed with ICUE in conjunction with the new LINK system, ICUE doesn't perform any hysteretic work so the fans could be varying wildly if left to follow the CPU temperature. I run custom loop (CPU & GPU with 3 x 360mm rads) with 9 x ML-120 RBG Pro fans off a Commander Pro via a Lampton SP105 PWM powered fan hub. Both of my rigs use a custom fan curve based off liquid temperature. None of that annoying fan ramping up and down all the time. In addition, as I have the liquid temperature using a 10kΩ temperature probe, the Commander Pro has access to it even when ICUE isn't running.

[@Dexx1s]

Then lets remember that the blocks themselves have temp probes built in IIRC, so they're really just being incompetent there.

[@toddblankenship7164]

Whats the gain doing it your way?

[@Dexx1s]

@@toddblankenship7164 The fans/radiators don't actually cool the components; they cool the liquid and the liquid cools the components. The liquid temperature fluctuates much slower than your components because it takes a relatively long time to heat up. If your CPU shoots up to 80°, you don't want the fans speeding up because the liquid temp hasn't changed yet. You'd be doing nothing other than making noise. And it's usually very noticeable when the fans ramp up and down quickly. It's the same for AIOs actually but most of those won't have temp sensors so you don't have a choice.

[@toddblankenship7164]

@@Dexx1s I'm aware, I think your looking at this wrong. Actively spinning up the fans still takes the temp down regardless of if the heated components have delivered their heat to the liquid so there is still cooling and it's essentially just sending cooler water to the parts that are heating up. Personally I have MSI afterburner setup so that when I game I push one button (custom setup) and my fans are at 100% and all power limits are maxed. sound is irrelevant as i play with headphones on.

[@Dexx1s]

@@toddblankenship7164 No, I'm not. Ironically enough, *you're* the one looking at this incorrectly. You're trying to do this theoretical min/maxxing for no real reason. There's no need to be manually touching anything. Set the fan curve based on the liquid, set your limits and leave it alone. One of the main benefits of modern watercooling is a damn near silent system. Nobody's ever having their fans go to 100% unless it's critical, as a sign to turn the thing off. You're also not really getting much of a benefit to ramping up the fans because you're not getting any real benefit to dropping the liquid half a degree anyway. At idle, the water is already going to be almost the same as ambient. Also, if you set the fan curve on a component, that means it doesn't change when any other component is under load. The CPU is the worse of the two to set it on since the GPU is what generates more heat between the two. 300W of heat being dumped in the loop and you have at least one radiator being little more than a heatsink.

[@AlohaMilton]

Jay you need to make an evaporative cooling system for fun, there is nothing like building an evaporative rain tube. It makes the sound of rain falling, and its actually using the water droplets surface evaporating as the droplets fall through the air, this phase change is removing heat from the CPU you are overclocking as the remaining water in fluid from is cooler after its surface evaporates slightly. Its so neat, yes its impractical, they need maintenance and almost daily filling and checking, but its very fun and you need this experience. Art tube that cares large artwork rolled up works for the rain tube, and a cheap shower head, and a bucket, and an aquarium submersible pump, its the weirdest form of water cooling and you know you want to try it.

[@basatrus]

Wow, how confident do you need to be to ship a PC with liquid in it? That’s some next-level trust in their engineering

[@Odyssey636]

Well every aio has liquid in it, granted one of them busting open is far harder in shipping than a reservoir

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@MAXTORRACER]

Confident? Stupidity you mean.

[@vamparooo]

Spending over 1 thousand dollars on shipping should make you confident enough

[@mysticking16]

Mfs will buy this and play nothing but esport titles

[@quidproquo9000]

Cable management is easy when you can do your own bespoke cables at your specified lengths... cable management challenges are from cables that are either too long, or too short...

[@jonathanisom]

While I don't know for certain, the 13mhz stepping was probably because the crystals that were used for GSM(3G) cellular were 13mhz so they were readily available and therefor cheap.

[@robertwiley8458]

Yeah, Jay, the average consumer doesn't have 6 thousand plus dollars for this PC or, like you, a sponsorship, so you get to review this for free. With that said, excellent review. Keep up the great content. I'll keep my AMD 3900 , 16 gigs of ram my 1 terabyte hard drive & i only had to upgrade my GPU from a 2080 super which couldn't even run GTAV to a 4070TI & my BLD NZXT build from is from 2019 I had to be patient since the prices are so high in 2023 but I finally got a brand new ZOTAC Gaming GeForce 4070 TI Trinity for 876.54 in September 1st 2023 yes expensive but consider this im looking this up on Amazon as I'm writing this & prices are currently over 1 thousand dollars new & used & I can run everything . Example GTAV just name the game and it brings a whole other element the graphics come to life in a surreal way.

[@michaelrizzo7322]

If anyone is having trouble finding a 9800x3d and live in the Missouri area The Brentwood Microcenter has over 25+ in stock Right now

[@AugmentedGravity]

I wll never trust Origin to the same levels i did before the shambles. Corsair products themselves are also just bad in my opinion. iCue is a horror movie in its own too.

[@puddleduckist]

It's a thing of beauty Jay!!! Niiiceeee!! I really like the tube sleeving, you are 100% right about the automotive feel. I have done all braided ptfe lines and an fittings on my hot rod, work excellent!! Happy new year Jay!!!

[@williamstewart1883]

That cable management caused my brain to release endorphins

[@neddy1287]

@@williamstewart1883 Mine would be like a massive shortcircuit 🤣

[@vamparooo]

If you bought one it probably would look worse they make sure it's perfect for people who they know are gonna make a video about it

[@neddy1287]

@@vamparooo I know to make it all that pretty and neat it would require alot of planning and cutting wires to the correct length and it proven a hassle from time to time as some cables can't be hidden properly. What worries me is radio frequency interferences when all the cables are that close together as how I know when using cheap sata cables that weren't shielded properly causing all sort of weirdness along with data corruption and system lock up randomly.

[@adrastoso9727]

I like how this case still keeps the same layout of the normal cases with the intake fans in the front, but just moved them to the back and kept the powersupply on the bottom. It doesn’t look like a fish bowl! I also like the tubing, which makes it simplified and not so over the top. I will say that the fans look like they are facing backwards, even the rear fans for some reason. I would use reverse blade fans for the intake. Of course this PC is way over priced for a gaming rig.

[@mikemj8204]

The packaging cost as much as the computer.

[@JeffRyman69]

My first whitebox PC (locally built in Oak Ridge, TN) with a 286 CPU, 287 coprocessor, 2.5 MB RAM, EGA graphics, 30 MB hard drive, MS-DOS 3.3 etc. cost $5,500 in 1987 dollars. That is roughly $15,050 in November 2024 dollars. My recent AMD 9900X build with 64 GB of RAM on an Asus motherboard, AIO cooler, 10 GB of NVMe drives, no graphics card (it's a compute box, not a gaming PC) and a low end LG 32" gaming monitor was just under $3,000 in October 2024 dollars.

[@smashed_penguin]

4:45 Congratulations, it's a boy!

[@smashingartful]

lmao

[@stickyRice9]

I paused this video to talk to my coworker, I start it, he drops the drain, and your comment rotates to the top 😅😅😅😅

[@MarcWeissmann]

Hi Jay, hi Nick, hi Phil. I wish you a happy new year. 😘 Thank you for all the love and effort you put into your videos. I watch you from Germany and love the channel. ❤ I miss the building videos because I liked them the most and they gave me inspiration for my own build. That's why I wanted to give you feedback. Statistics are necessary and important, but they bore me a bit. When will there be another fun PC build video with all the crazy water cooling components that are available on the market? All the best from Essen (Germany) Marc

[@ShimejiiGaming]

that seems pretty hot for a 9800x3D o.o

[@zackzeed]

Wait 7K for that Pc???? No way. Overpriced. *Scam* _pfffft_ . At that Price I would expect f'ing perfection. A direct-die cooler on the cpu aswell. I know the 4090 is like around 30% of the price but come on, 7K is way to much. Not even the scarce 9800X3D is worth that much overpay. I wouldn't buy this overpriced PoS even if I was rich. I don't like getting ripped off... Also, to all the comments talking about building your own pc. Yes. There is Almost no excuse to why you shouldn't do that. Yes I know, time, money, warranty etc etc are different reasons why people buy pre-builds. But let's be honest, alot of people are just lazy. You can very easily look up a couple videos on youtube these days and copy the person(s) in the video(s). That's what I did when I first built my pc around 8-9 years ago. Guess what, It Still Works to this day! If you get a borked pre-build then good luck, cuz you paid extra for it! Oh and I've heard of Origin Pc a looong time ago. But they where ALWAYS the most expensive from what I remember so I Never even considered them.

[@allu7112]

Wouldn't you want the back case fan to be an intake so there is positive pressure so you minimize the amount of dust getting in?

[@michaelgabrielgarcia1004]

Agreed! 4 intake, 3 exhaust, positive pressure absolutely makes sense.

[@jasonbedics7614]

I just commented on that same thing. They installed it in the wrong direction unless these corsair fans have a reverse fan but I believe not because I have these fans in my rig!

[@Silarous]

No filter on the back case fan. You'd be pumping dust in.

[@allu7112]

@@Silarous seems like a design flaw

[@Silarous]

@@allu7112 I've honestly never seen a case with a filter on the rear fan. They are typically considered an exhaust fan.

[@daveg4417]

I built a workstation computer last year that cost more than $10,000.00 CAD. Intel W7-2495X 24-Core, ASUS W790 ACE motherboard, 512GB DDR5 ECC, RTX-3090 24GB, two WD SN850X 4TB NVMe, power supply, case, fans, Noctua NH-U14-4677 cooler, etc. It's an awesome system. I required the large amount of memory for game development work with massive terrains. I have created game worlds up to 260km x 260km. When RAM prices drop, I plan to expand to 2TB. I would never drop $7000 US on that Origin system though, my workstation cost less in USD. The reviewed system is no more than probably $4000 retail in parts.

[@killerbsting1621]

This is a very easy build to DIY. Do NOT pay an extra 3 grand for someone to do it. My lord.. all you need is a screwdriver lol

[@michaeltorrisi7289]

It's not really 3k at this point. Have you looked at 4090 prices? They're all running close to $3k on NewEgg right now. 9800x3d is $500 -if you could find one at MSRP - x870E board is gonna run you another $400, the RAM will clock in for another $200, you've got $300 for the SSDs, another $400 for the cooling, etc. It's probably closer to a 1.5k premium. Which yes, that's a lot of money, but if you don't enjoy the building and troubleshooting process, and you're the kind of person that was going to spend $5k+ on a computer anyway, seems perfectly reasonable.

[@joaocastro924]

OMG let me just say that I'm happy that you mentioned what was your ambient temperature and fan speed profile. LTT could learn something from you on that regard!!!

[@antdifo]

That much money and they couldn't put in reverse fans?!

[@wonderpookie]

Not sold on the covered tubing. One of the coolest things about water cooling is the awesome colours of the liquids in the pipes!

[@DonLeRon-h5s]

Insane CPU temp

[@Fk8td]

I heard Corsair water cooling on their cards ends up not cooling the vram on the back. Just common sense if you try to do everything exhaust your fans will have to pull against negative pressure moving less air. The would need to be entirely made of mesh for that to work.

[@Volkerstein-57]

RGB lights on pc tower are the most ridiculous things that happen those last 15 years.

[@prongATO]

They may be re-terminating the power cables. I did that when I made custom systems.

[@john_in_phoenix]

That CPU temperature is way too high for that cooling system.

[@TheBigZ0603]

These CPU temps are insanely high for a custom water cooled build. My results with my 9800x3d at stock settings in Cinebench R23 had it just barely crossing the 70c mark during a 30 min test, staying stable at ~5225mhz. Case is a Corsair 7000D airflow with 3 front intake fans, 1 rear exhaust. AIO is a top mounted (exhaust obviously) Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360. A custom water loop should be blowing these temperatures out of the water, not the other way around. Especially when they are up-charging you ~3000USD for this machine. Horrible value here either way.

[@albawehunt]

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[@GiudittaWales]

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[@albawehunt]

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[@GiudittaWales]

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[@Anastasia0ihr]

There is her line!!! under this comment!!! It's in bit by bit🔁 Just put the digits in straight line.

[@Anastasia0ihr]

+1🇺🇲

[@bloodgodalucard4769]

They should ship these things with an industrial size jug of Astro glide to prep you before that credit card bill arrives.

[@meiferlatov]

I‘m using Liquid Temp in iCue to control the Fan Speed. The Pump res combo should provide coolant temp. The older generation did.

[@KRAVER_]

Last NEW PC I bought OEM was when windows 95 came out, Packard Bell, webcrawler, and Netscape baby. LOL ever since then all my PC's have been built by me.

[@andrewdonahue5034]

My first PC as well and all my systems after were built by me.