If this is true, then all of these characters mean NOTHING.

[@youtubecensors5419]

I used to want a real Silver Surfer movie. Now I'm so terrified of what they'd do to him I hope they forgot he ever even existed.

[@keldsports8337]

Surfer would be a space sexual battling Galactus with universal pronouns as the stakes. Galactus is silencing the gender fluids with his world eating

[@Twisthiphop]

@@keldsports8337 I'd pay to not see that 😭

[@Lemon_Push]

What do you mean? What did I miss? Is he now a sex offender or some shit?

[@yougottrolled5799]

@@Twisthiphop shit I wouldn't watch if it was free

[@Twisthiphop]

@@yougottrolled5799 🤣🤣🤣

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Two phrases used when the author has fucked up: 1: use the speed force, Barry 2: it’s another universe.

[@Twisthiphop]

😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@Twisthiphop it’s true.

[@GeeMannn]

pretty much haha

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@GeeMannn yep. As a DC fan, it’s gotten too obvious over the years.

[@ViperChief117]

This is why I’m constantly saying that the best stories have already been told in the past.

[@ghostshrimp5006]

It doesn’t matter if the story has already been told, it’s about doing it right

[@doctordoom8472]

Agreed.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Same with movies & tv Old Dc cartoons are more interesting then movies nowadays.

[@ViperChief117]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 I honestly would rather watch classic films and play older video games then some of the stuff that we get nowadays. That’s why I honestly don’t don’t care if they remake that stuff. Lol

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@ViperChief117 The Green lantern show makes anything from the Dceu look like trash.

[@JediDanD]

"To them, they're just suits" Kind of reminds me back a few years ago, someone posted "The original Power Rangers", but with Rocky, Adam and Aisha. And when people tried to tell her those three aren't originals, the OP is like "Blah, who cares, as long as it's the original suits." (Ignoring that Tommy was in his White Ranger outfit, and side note, made the switch from Green before Rocky, Adam and Aisha showed up). Sure, we love the suits, *BUT* it's the characters we care about most :D There's only six originals, along with Tommy, Billy and Kimberley, it's also Jason, Zack and especially Trini :D (R.I.P. Thuy Trang)

[@Martynde]

Actors leave, actors grow old, writers change, there are numerous explanations why changes have to happen.

[@redacted1093]

@@Martynde I think you missed the point, sure in terms of Power Rangers there have been tons and they are one of the few that it is an actual mantle capable of being handed over but Rocky, Adam and Aisha aren't part of the originals.

[@byronrush9802]

@@redacted1093 exactly not knocking them, but they did our boy who played Billy dirty just because he was openly gay it had nothing to do with his character cuz he was fire as the Blue ranger hell he made all the damn rangers gadgets and he made the next generation of zords that makes him MVP

[@KidFlashNacho]

@@byronrush9802 the co-actors didnt bully billy, it was the producers and crew members

[@byronrush9802]

@@KidFlashNacho I know I just didn't elaborate it's assumed that the majority of the fandom knows this by now

[@elgatofelix8917]

Old skool Spiderman: "with great power comes great responsibility" New woke Spiderman: "with great power comes great diversity quota"

[@TheJoseprds99]

Huh?

[@melchior2678]

@@guyc1479 your last initial stands for crybaby. Cry harder

[@shanezielinski7418]

Eric is completely correct. This is why they BURNED Continuity long ago - to make it easier and hold NOTHING sacred or consistent. Its why there are 15 Spidey's.... And its gotten into even the TV, where EVERYONE is literally a Speedster in the Flash which turns it into people in costumes in a street fight, no different than that KZbin video of the Batman V Spider-man brawl, which was interrupted by Santa Clause.

[@andylassiter8747]

Can’t forget that in the DC Universe Santa is a Super Villain. It could happen

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

As someone who used to enjoy the flash before it turned to shit, it annoyed me that everyone was faster then barry, lmfao "he was supposed to be the fastest man alive" but like almost everyone he meets is 900 times faster then him & everyone could just be a speedster except for the villains that were barely used.

[@shanezielinski7418]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 That's what made me stop watching the show. It was the same plot with cosmetic changes all the time.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@shanezielinski7418 The flash got really bad, from the obsessive focus on iris & erasing elongated man.

[@shanezielinski7418]

@@elongatedmanforever1252 the script writers wanted to be 'producers' ... With the actress that plays Iris....If you get my drift.

[@thebugledaily6805]

They refuse to portray the spider menace as the proper menace he is!

[@chicomac8450]

Can I have a job?

[@thebugledaily6805]

@@chicomac8450 Bring me pictures of Spider-man!!

[@chicomac8450]

@@thebugledaily6805 on it boss!

[@Spidey-dk8op]

@@chicomac8450 cringe 🤡

[@Martynde]

@@thebugledaily6805 which Spider-Man? There’s many of them!

[@pablocamargo8744]

Can't wait for Rippa's reaction when She Hulk comes out. He will have a Stroke and a Heart Attack at the same time. They will destroy our green girl.....

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

They already destroyed her in the comics when they made her ugly. Absolutely destroyed her with that character regression.

[@redacted428]

@@blacklivesorblackvotes2985 wasn't She Hulk green and masculine to begin with? Nobody who has a sickly green color can be considered attractive.

[@yinnacle9885]

@@redacted428 you're VERY ignorant on she hulk

[@pablocamargo8744]

@@blacklivesorblackvotes2985 I know..... But I am sure the show is able to make the she hulk situation even worse.

[@0Sutekinaryuu0]

Just feels ironic that the people that really push diversity would rather have a bunch of spider man instead of an actual variety of unique characters. I just like my diversity with more variety I guess

[@NekoinaBox2000]

@Echoverse Real Estate Agent you really need to learn how to write a sentence without sounding like a racist.

[@thedelordhimselfgokublack]

@Echoverse Real Estate Agent these idiots have original Black characters but won't use them.

[@tototats001]

@@thedelordhimselfgokublack cause they probably won’t be as “recognizable” so they’ll slap a popular name on them.

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@thedelordhimselfgokublack Thank you, I had a argument with someone earlier about "why having a gay spiderman" is just tokenism the person couldn't understand anything I said, Hollywood got these people by their balls man it's just sad.

[@trashboat5388]

@@thedelordhimselfgokublack for real bro there’s plenty of black characters everybody likes but they just end race swapping or queer baiting with characters like Spider-Man, Superman, etc.

[@inediblegrobb7524]

Comic characters were consistent and recognizable for DECADES, across numerous writers and artists, and even across different media. Batman was Batman, Spider-man was Spider-man, no matter the writer, no matter if it was a comic, a cartoon or a movie. Now, the characters barely have consistent powers and costumes, never mind personalities or even histories.

[@illuvitarv5]

But it's always been like that, i mean if you want to start with a particular superhero there's like 5 or more different origin stories.

[@Snyperwolf91]

@@illuvitarv5 And those "new" origin-stories were not necessary no matter how good it is/was. No consistency means no value . And changing/retconning something kills consistency . Its amateurish and disgraceful .

[@sunkenobi1501]

@@Snyperwolf91 Hey it's not my they keep changing them. Blame those who are trying to bring in more customers.🤷‍♂️

[@kittybrowneye3163]

They also had messages regardless of character they all had a positive message or theme now the theme is I'm a woman or I'm gay

[@raddreamstar]

I was told people like us are uncomfortable with change. Especially those in thier 30s and 40s.

[@jbstudios3000]

So glad someone finally agrees with me about Miles.

[@Troll_vs.]

Like because if rippa I figured it out. I like miles...in everything but the comics. It's almost like he literally doesn't fucking work on paper.

[@jbstudios3000]

@@Troll_vs. true

[@bandawin18]

@@Troll_vs. it's sad because miles is such a cool concept and into the spider verse did a really good job with him, but holy shit do modern comic writers know nothing about good writing

[@KwabzModding]

@@Troll_vs. same I tried reading miles but it just ain't it, he's only enjoyable in the games and Movies for me.

[@TheMadSicilian]

Who?

[@Jemuzuu]

"It's just Peter Darker." I fucking love that

[@ride-playerbb2818]

It's kinda ironic. Miles is basically just like Peter but black, but then the MCU decided to make their Peter like Miles, essentially making the MCU Peter Parker to be Miles but white. At the very least, this forced the writers of Into the Spider-Verse to reimagine Miles' character which turned out to be good because Spider-Verse was a sucess

[@vijeomasher9154]

Miles Morales is only relevant as long as the Spider-verse exists. He can't stand on his own alone.

[@chicomac8450]

Don’t forget the PlayStation version of Miles too. He’s pretty cool. Obviously spider verse is still the goat

[@chicomac8450]

@Lick Muh no one asked you

[@sunkenobi1501]

@Lick Muh In comics? Yes. Everywhere else? Not so much. No.

[@sunkenobi1501]

@Lick Muh I'm not a shill. I just prefer his character in the movies and PS4/5 video game over his comicbook counterpart because it was written by people who gave a shock about character.

[@sunkenobi1501]

@Lick Muh Did you even watch the movie or play the game?

[@brother_Tennessee]

Comics should have been off limits to BLM, white liberals and the LGBT community. I remember there was a story where the LGBT was petitioning to get a black transgender to play storm if there was to be a next x man movie And people who grew up in the 80s or 90s never saw race or color in comics, all we saw was our favorite superhero.

[@gustavogutierrez6568]

What the hell

[@hehel5163]

Lol dc and marvel were made by liberals, in a liberal city. 😂

[@allwalledup]

@@hehel5163 yeah but that was before they went completely insane. They’re not even liberals any more they’re just foam-at-the-mouth leftists

[@hehel5163]

@Knox2Don you can join me, but I’m laughing at you not with you after that comment. 😂

[@WickedFireBird69]

It's basically Syndromes plan come to life. You create all these "different versions" of the same character and water down that original characters uniqueness and interest. "With everyone super, no on will be."

[@danninmatthews5640]

Agreed. I go for variants but these people are just making clones of the character.

[@keldsports8337]

Gwen Stacey’s death resonated in the comics for decades as it meant something. It wasn’t a cheap rug pull and her legacy was respected. Now, nothing is permanent, thus it has no worth

[@daviejz6698]

Now she is the Green Goblin's baby mama. At least she isn't gay yet.

[@Snyperwolf91]

Because those talentless hacks dont understand consistency and originality. By making 600+ alternative universes/timelines with their bad characters or bastardisation of known heroes they have no official heroes or universe. Thats literally horrible Fanfiction advertised by the officials. Its pretty messed up and shows how much value has marvel / DC lost over the years .

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

@@daviejz6698 they finally retconned it.The kids were just clones and the memories about "the relationship" were fake.

[@sunkenobi1501]

@@Snyperwolf91 To them it's just fiction why bother?

[@TheKawagawaga]

@@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526 Really? Good that was a fucking shit storyline.

[@KnightHawk1990]

Mans said Peter Darker and I am dying 🤣🤣🤣 this is why I follow this channel lmao

[@chaotixcompany1427]

I completely love alternate universes. But these people don't know how to do it. Todd McFarlane does though. Sonic, Pokémon, Transformers, Godzilla, and Mega Man are all some of the best answers to a stable multiverse. But current Marvel is run by incompetent petulant curmudgeons who lack talent.

[@Fuzzycat16]

Thank you for teaching me a new word. Curmudgeons

[@ΜαρίνοςΤ-μ4ρ]

I completely dislike alt Universes.

[@chaotixcompany1427]

@@ΜαρίνοςΤ-μ4ρ That's not my problem.

[@sayitasis8326]

@@chaotixcompany1427 how did you learn curmudgeons? I’m tryna be like you.

[@chaotixcompany1427]

@@sayitasis8326 I'm a knowledge seeker, artist, creative thinker and also science and various forms geek culture and entertainment helped. I'm always evolving, reading, researching, you're talking to a person who knew what an Opisthocoelocaudia was when he was in 2nd grade.

[@mikeq6197]

Japanese manga and anime has passion in it. You can visibly see the extraordinary effort that goes into those creations.

[@ulti-matezoan6398]

I feel as though the whole infinite different universes concept makes world building for Marvel so fluid and malleable that it might as well not exist while also hurting stakes and consequence. I recently tried getting into comics again, but finding a point to start reading for any character is almost impossible with all the reboots, tie-ins, and crossover events.

[@Raximus3000]

They have had that issue for decades. You cannot keep the story going forever. Even the longest ones have endings.

[@SuperSteph5]

I'm not sure about Marvel but DC makes it pretty easy to pick up a comic and start reading. I started reading their comics for the 1st time starting with their Rebirth era which started back in 2016, it didn't require you to read anything beforehand.

[@trashboat5388]

Try the epic collection but yeah I see what you mean.

[@beerdragon4583]

Just stick with the trade paperback collection of stories pre-2000, avoid the clone sage and you’ll be fine.

[@thegifting267]

I got into comic books, but I ran into the same problem. What problem? I would buy a book for the story only to find out that I have to buy multiple different stories just for a conclusion of a character.

[@Aiello_]

it scares them to move on from the same characters, they don't want to give them the beginning, middle and ending their stories deserve, Shounen jump has it's problems but they're already getting ready to give us the next generation of exciting new ip's like Ayashimon

[@Janzer_]

this is the corporate greed mentality. can't let a sure thing go to waste. better to waste it by grinding it into the pavement!

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

Tumblr exasperated this with AUs. they make their fanart, get over attached to their totally original bisexual Spider-They/Them, gay Aragorn, Trans Faramir. Then they see that rather than the original.

[@Artemisarrowzz]

Its curious that you mention Tolkien's characters because those are the ones the tumblrites are always trying to "trans" the most

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

They’re the ones I discovered first. A Faramir comic where Gandalf gives a barely teen Faramir a spell that changes him to a him. I also saw a tumblrite more concerned that the Simarillion was being made by Amazon rather than spitting on the original work.

[@Artemisarrowzz]

@@doopdoopdopdop7424 As a Tolkien fan, I'm absolutely worried about that show lol may God have mercy on our souls, the more I heard about it the more worried I get

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

Indeed.

[@Automage45]

I’m afraid of how they will use characters to push a agenda it sucks. Agree with you man

[@Pdrum2]

"it's a different universe" is just a convenient excuse to do what they want.

[@jamaalsmith5207]

Alternate Universes can be written well as the new setting can be interesting. The copy and paste characters not so much.

[@SuperLumianaire]

A blunting of the spear. Make everyone the same. No hero is allowed to be only one thing. That hero has to have every version possible, no competition, as Communists hate competition.

[@GeisKing1]

Thank you! I think the worst thing to happen to Spider-man is too many Spider characters. Clones, alternate universe spiders, someone else getting bit. At this point they're basically communicating that there is nothing special about Parker and anyone else standing in that room on that day could have been Spider-man. Venom and Carnage were the logical progression in that "similar powers to the hero" thing but even they got a bunch of copies. When everyone is special NO ONE is special.

[@frankberry6220]

Dear Eric, The problem appears to be that the 'creatives' are unable to tell the difference between the idea of a character, and the reception of that idea by their customers. If they continue to think that race/gender swapping a character is sufficient to maintain their current audience, let alone increase the character's popularity, they need to adjust their meds.

[@jmmywyf4lyf]

I thought this whole thing was stupid. If they want "diversity", create new characters, or use the many already existing characters that they currently ignore! I will never support a game/movie/comic/etc that retcons an existing character!

[@sunkenobi1501]

It better to just accept that they won't take their own world seriously and just deal with it. If they ain't gonna take their world seriously why should we take them seriously?

[@ZergleJerk]

No. They aren't allowed to ruin the already existing great chatacters. I wanted a new Spawn movie for years. Now I don't. I don't want my favorite anti-hero to be turned into Gay Deadpool.

[@Janzer_]

did you watch the new star wars or that fem ghostbusters then?

[@jeffreymodesitt3345]

Their actions with existing, more obscure characters have proven to be just as bad as the popular ones. Remember when they rebooted Static and completely changed his origin story to where his powers were from a BLM rio-I mean “peaceful protest?”

[@Yayofangamer16]

@@ZergleJerk Whut

[@LeeroyPorkins]

Still remember an argument I had with a buddy on 2009 Star Trek when it was out. Me: They changed the Characters. Him: But that's because the timeline was altered. Me: THAT'S WORSE! THEY'RE PEEING ON RODDENBERRY'S LEGACY!

[@TheKawagawaga]

I refuse to acknowledge those movies as canon cuz well they aren't.

[@RobTheDoodler]

They did way more than change the characters. They irreparably destroyed the setting itself. Not to mention the absolutely braindead supernova story beat where somehow the ENTIRE ROMULAN EMPIRE magically ceases to exist.

[@CD224Auto]

Wait, they keep saying it's a different "universe" when in reality, there is only one universe. There aren't "infinite universes."

[@flarestorm9417]

And at that, if you bring them into the same universe it doesn't really matter. The Marvel cartoons used to have Spider-Gwen and Miles Morales be from another world, but either they keep them in the same world as Peter Parker, or they just have them all be from the same dimension anyway.

[@elgatofelix8917]

Last time I was this early, it was still "only two weeks to flatten muh curve"

[@--Sama-]

Rippa, can you provide us with some info about what will you do with your own comibooks and when the project will start? I buy manga and reprints of western comicbooks but it would be great to be interested again in a new universe. The problem with the rest of indie authors is that you have to wait a year or more for the next book and they're about standalone characters, this is not the DC/Marvel alternative.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Yes sir Rippa the facts are clear and you state the facts that should be looked at as a problem for current comic books

[@poetscotty]

R.I.P Spiderman 2099 and Scarlet Spiderman Kaine are the only two alternative Spiderman that gets sh*t done. Spiderman 2099 was from the future 2099 Marvel forgot about.

[@objectjon9015]

I tend to spend more time reading “backwards” or going back to read old classic stories, whether that be comics or books or really any older media because that at least is guaranteed to be better than anything new

[@flarestorm9417]

One phrase I heard that always stuck with me was "when anything can happen, it's hard to care when something does." They may sound dumb to someone on the outside, but the reason why people have these debates involving fictional characters and despite the slightest inconsistencies is because they treat these worlds as if they're real. When a world doesn't follow its own rules it makes people apathetic to it. Bringing it back to the comics, when you treat these characters as brands instead of real people you make people feel apathetic towards them. If anyone in a suit with a web pattern that shoots webs and crawls on walls is Spider-Man then why do we care about them? What makes an individual spider-person interesting when there's a bunch others that are interchangeable with them?

[@LordTyph]

Honestly, a multiverse idea with Spider-Man can work. Just keep those distinct ideals and traits that Spider-Man has and see how they could fit in another universe, what sort of person could fight with those ideals in mind, how that world is affected by them. Take it slow and show how different adventures happen. If nothing else, just make it an Elseworlds-type affair, where it's not canon to the main universe and have it be an experimental grounds.

[@Martynde]

A once in a lifetime event happening more than once is unbelievable in the Marvel comics where gaining superpowers is a very very common occurrence? You can’t drop a vial of chemicals without it giving someone superpowers in Marvel and DC. And I believe it was said in the Ezekiel story, it wasn’t a random occurrence. It was Peter Parker’s destiny, pre-planned by the powers that be or whoever to gain his spider powers. I forget the finer details, it’s been many years since I read that story.

[@tylermcflyer3061]

Me and my brother have been literally thinking the same thing. We’ve been Working on our own comic serious. Here’s to hoping all goes well

[@kellystigger9318]

Short term satisfaction over long term legacy. Get what they want now, but avoid the mess later. It's history.

[@JohnFinitee]

Completely agree! The market is wide open, time for fresh new talent, ideas and comics! Cant wait to see more on Rippaverse

[@Pers0n97]

Multiverse is like time travel, a pandora box that once open can never be closed, and once open just totally destroy any gravitas and consequence your setting could ever have.

[@elijahbaker781]

All jokes aside I love your Regular Show shirt!

[@Hibernial]

3:06 “And often times when they change some shit, the audience gets pissed off.” *Flashbacks to The Promised Neverland season 2*

[@brandonferreira854]

Way to many different versions of characters. There are several Spiderman to buy, only 1 Goku to buy. You pick up a Demon Slayer manga, you know it is canon. Pick up any new DC, and it is hard to know unless you stay on it if it is canon. It enables people from caring about American comic characters to the same level. I actually know the anime characters, I use to know the American comic characters. I can't say I still know the characters. I don't even think DC and Marvel still know these characters.

[@DeathBringer769]

I swear these people's brains are in a "different universe" lol.

[@luijo633]

I remember how in the last episode or some like that of Ultimate Spiderman Norman Osborn told Peter how he was a miracle because the bite of the spider could've kill anybody else but him and tells him all this shit about being special and unique and stuff... and in the exact same show you see Miles Morales... also bitten by another radioactive spider who gave him powers and on top of that aditional mutations with the excuse that " it was a different spider " like if radioactive superpower giving spiders are born everywhere in the planet lol

[@draggoon9121]

Problem is they keep recycling the same characters. In Manga's if the story is done they move on.

[@Pdrum2]

They don't know how write a story.

[@bob74h67]

They dont not if makes money. Digimon tri,boruto and dragon ball super are all examples of cash grab sequels extending on a already completed story

[@mr.x6313]

You have a point about recognizable characters and continuity across media. When I publish my stories and my characters appear across media, even though the medium and the visuals may be different, you can be guaranteed that everything will be in continuity.

[@leonrobinson2053]

The problem is just as you explained, they aren't characters any more they are brands. Instead of selling people a hero they are ever trying to sell people a dream.

[@RobTheDoodler]

Spider-Man has been a multi-million(billion?) dollar brand for decades. Why is anyone acting like this is a new thing?

[@tk-fn8ml]

This is why in the past I spent thousands of dollars on comics, and in the last 10 years I havent spent a dime. They got bad, then they got worse, now it's all just crap!

[@modakkagitplugga]

Multiverse theory is a method to do whatever lazy fan fiction you want

[@Martynde]

It’s been happening since the 70s, with the original What If…? comic books.

[@beerdragon4583]

When everyone is special, then no one is special. The whole multiverse state Ted back with Crisis on Infinite Earths and just spiraled out of control from there. IMO, the entire spider-verse has been reduced to now everyone’s a “spider.” There is only one true Spider-Man, and that’s Peter Parker. Ironic thing about the cosplayer scene: most of them don’t read the books and the big 2 never make any really money from them anyways.They just like to play dress up without ever picking up a single issue. The one’s I’ve met that are a True and Honest fan (tm) seem to be very few of them.

[@realironfist]

I agree with your take on multiverse. Always have agreed with you on that part. Whenever you have a question for a major plot in a story these days it’s always “multiverse.” So dull and lazy just like everything in writing these days man

[@timewarriorsaga]

Miles couldn't carry his own movie yet they still try to push him

[@Lemon_Push]

Didn't SpiderVerse do extremely well?

[@princewya]

@@Lemon_Push I think in terms of not relying on the appearance on the original Spider-Man in that movie in order to appeal to the masses.

[@davidd4696]

@@Lemon_Push and the video game

[@Snyperwolf91]

@@Lemon_Push It did well but definitly not because of miles morales for sure.

[@Lemon_Push]

@@princewya true...I only saw the movie because of Spider Noir and hos VA being Nicholas Cage

[@Zetact_]

Stuff like Gundam and Jojo show that there is an art to making AUs or even just alternate stories in the same continuity. AUs have been a huge part of why Gundam was able to survive so long (it was getting burnt out in the 90s and kept sustained with AUs giving it a fresh feel, the success of SEED and 00 in the 2000s breathed new life into it, and it wasn't until the financial success of Unicorn that UC was able to get put back onto the main stage), and Jojo is a case where the author is talented enough that he can elegantly finish telling one character's story and move on to a new one with a completely different vibe but retaining the parts of the franchise that are iconic. They need to boil down what exactly are the key features of the original IP that they want to make a spinoff is. Say for instance with Spider-Man. "A normal person, fairly young, in a metropolitan area, gets the power of an arachnid." These are what you would isolate as some of the more superficial qualities. The central theme of Spider-Man is "With great power comes great responsibility." Any spinoff should retain that theme. Next, the justification. Why are we making a different story instead of simply telling a new story with the exact same character? "I want them to look different" is not a justification, but it can even be as simple as "I don't want the albatross of existing continuity on top of this." However, the most clear reason to do it is if you want to change the setting, change the abilities of the character, or go with a different tone. Spider-Man has the tokusatsu Supaidahman, the sci-fi 2099 and the noir version, for instance. They are still Spider-Man, but they feel justified as spinoffs because they do something completely different that you would not be able to do in the main continuity.

[@creator.season3714]

Well said right on. They lost sight of what made them great just for the appeasement of those who were never on board.

[@BalrogUdun]

As much as I may like some alternate versions going the route of the multiverse is the beginning of the end. Maybe not in the beginning it may actually have it’s hits but the inevitable conclusion is always a warping of the character to the point where the character has so many versions and interpretations it’s undefinable.

[@mitchryan257]

“Peter Darker” 🤣

[@ravenousmask4159]

Remember when marvel rejected the idea that Wolverine's claws are part of his suit? "If we do that, then anyone can become wolverine! No, he IS The Wolverine."

[@RobTheDoodler]

Technically he isn’t the only one with claws or healing.

[@ravenousmask4159]

@@RobTheDoodler It was at the very start of his story, so no other character like him yet.

[@Jonkin715]

You made some damn good points about how American comic book characters are becoming more of a dime a dozen than manga characters. The similarities between Peter Parker and Peter Dark-, er, Miles Morales is proof of that.

[@stephensmith7811]

I’ve made a similar comment before, but there’s nothing wrong with “a different universe” conceptually. It allows for creative liberties to be taken for a character that can’t be done in the mainline universe, what if x happened instead of y, what if this guy had a more aggressive approach. The problem lies entirely in poor execution, they just doing a bad job in the comics and an aight job in the movies, although I stand by Tony stark being a great character and Spider-Man being solid especially with the advent of the 3rd movie. In addition, while I don’t really care about miles in the comics, into the spiderverse miles is a fantastic character. He’s more than just Pete with a fade, he’s Miles Morales. He’s still had that Spider-Man framework, but that’s necessary to be Spider-Man, he’s a Spider-Man in a different setting, Influenced by different people, and thus is a different person.

[@mkno2799]

If only the CW were just as wise with Batwohmen.

[@SirBlackReeds]

You might be interested in Like Stories of Old's analysis on Spider-Man 3.

[@kalifinch8376]

I agree. (ITSV) Miles is a completely different person. yeah, while Both he and Peter are cocky, and good-natured, and have the same power set, that's where they diverge. they grew up in different areas (Brooklyn vs. queens) have different interests -- miles is an artist, and music enthusiast, while Peter had/has always been a science guy. they have different upbringings, and yeah, the prowler scene is pretty similar to uncle ben's death, it's a refreshing, completely different spin on the character. rather than his perfect uncle being killed in an act of accidental violence, Miles' uncle is a criminal killed by an act of brutality from his superior, Kingpin. I'd argue he's a completely different character than spider-man, as he takes up the name, and dons the suit only after realizing that he has the same powers as his universe's spider-man, and is influenced by the other spider-people. I also think ghost spider differentiates enough as well.

[@bob74h67]

If you cant operate within the confines of the brand then maybe you shouldt be using the brand to begin with and instead use your own ideas rather then hijacking other people's hard work just to change it to suit your own sensibilities

[@goldenangel158]

Great video

[@brennaceron2628]

The majority of the time if something is different between the manga and the anime it's because whichever one came first fell behind the other and the writers had to fill in the gap until they caught up.

[@devantewinston4865]

And we call those fillers but that’s why a lot of animes are seasonal now which is smart really

[@bob74h67]

It's because manga stans hate anime

[@cluelessworld]

The issue is that there is one mantle then it's ten people who own it.

[@ronobvious1785]

Man, this so on the money, I can't disagree or argue with it at all.

[@kingofdragontown9680]

The last American comic books I've gotten were freebies from a raffle. I haven't spent a dime on American comics since like 2016. Glad I have too

[@lancebaylis3169]

Great observations Eric. A couple of my own thoughts: I'm of the view that all this alternative B.S.. actually enforces the legitimacy of the true stories. The word 'alternative' is the thing. An alternative is something different, aye. But in order to be an alternative universe, they need to have a primary canon from which to diverge. When Jay Jay Abrahams came along with his Star Trek movies starring Chris Pine and all that I can enjoy something like that for it's own sake, but as a reboot, reimagining, or explicitly an alternative universe, it has no real validity without the OG Star Trek to validate it. It's those characters and their story development that matters, not thesw copies. That's also why they need someone like Leonard Nimoy to come in as Spock and validate them. They know they don't mean anything, they know they're only an 'alternative', so they need to wheel in the real Mister Spock to give them any kind of legitimacy. They can't stand up on their own and they know it. Also, in terms of comic books or maybe more broadly reboot continuity, again you ever notice how rare it is a reboot survives without being itself rebooted again? Very few have the lasting impact of an OG continuity. Superman and Batman might have had some goofy stuff in their Silver Age, but the simple truth is all that stuff was a singular crazy continuity for like 50-60 years before D.C. did they universe reboot thing, but how long did the reboot continuity last before being rebooted with New 42? And how long did New 42 last before being rebooted again? And at the end of the day none of those things has a validation over the OG continuity, because in the mass public mind everything will always be remembered as that OG continuity. Batman '89 was a successful reimagining in itself, but it was a dead continuity only three sequels later by the time '97's Batman & Robin rolled around and killed that version of the franchise. But everyone knows OG 1930s Batman because everyone knows the basics of his backstory, and that's all OG continuity baby. So yeah. I think all these people so hell bent on saying these things can be alternate universes. Sure, go ahead, tell your story, but it'll always be a footnote to the OG and there ain't no denying it.

[@pasalasaga]

I just don't like that Miles Morales is called Spider-Man

[@k-po2958]

I hope you books are incredible and I will support, I would like to see if you could make a video on practices your company has made to prevent this from happening to you brand in the hopeful event that all good well and we are able to be blessed with see your characters on the big screen 😊 😀

[@k-po2958]

Okay you just answered me question, I should be watching the whole video 😅🤘🤘🔥🔥

[@joshmarkham862]

Look I enjoyed Into the Spider-Verse for the most part but I don’t care about the sequel. In the MCU They got Tobey, Andrew and Tom’s Spider-Man in one movie! That’s something I’ve wanted since Civil War. They gave me what I wanted. So I don’t care what multiverse/Spiderverse things Sony has in store.

[@FOF275]

As much as I've loved phase 4 of the MCU, I've also been concerned the multiverse will end up cheapening everything and it becomes like a high budget Rick and Morty. If someone dies, a place gets destroyed, or something else big happens, they can just retcon it with another universe's version of that and continue on like nothing happened and that'd keep future stories from having any weight compared to the first 3 phases

[@garym6315]

On the one hand, I like the idea of the Halloween movies being different continuities, as if they are all campfire tales being told with each person telling their own interpretation of the story. On the other hand, it can be a very lazy way of telling a story where nothing has any consequence.

[@augusthermes6740]

Didn't the Spiders have to wear thin socks so they could stick to walls properly ? How the hell does that work with tennis shoes ?

[@RobTheDoodler]

This is seldom addressed in any Spider-Man content. Absolutely none of the movies touch on that that’s for certain.

[@steffimaier7297]

Tired of the "multiverse" crap! Just cheapens the story and characters, makes things complicated and feels like fanfic. Which is another reason why I prefer manga and anime, since it doesn't has this. Once the story is done; its done. Makes the whole thing more memorable in the long run and is easier for new people to get into it.

[@dozogoviovvrenvah1439]

This started in the 90's with the artists. Todd McFarlane's version of spiderman was very different then the classic marvel look that had been used for years and years. Back in the old days a new artist on a book had to draw in the style of the book. That went away with the 90s McFarlane Jim Lee Liefeld era of comic books where it became about show boating ones own art style instead of making art in line with the established look.

[@guyverjay1289]

John Romita and Steve Ditkos style (for example) were not and did not look the same so I have to disagree

[@reidmason2551]

House styles died out much earlier than that. Carmine Infantino broke away from the Bob Kane studio style of drawing Batman, and everyone who followed had their own visual spin on the character from that point on. What made McFarlane's Spider-Man stand out was the publicity he got, a publicity that wouldn't have existed without the breakout fame of guys like Frank Miller and Alan Moore. The circumstances weren't the same as before.

[@jannyjt2034]

I agree with you. But one thing you missed is the question: how do these people even get in to the position "change" characters? Has affirmative action really done this much damage?

[@leonlincoln9844]

I know I keep harping on this, but this still needs to be addressed: Sure, Miles Morales is an alternate universe Spider-Man. But, when it comes to the comics, Marvel still won't let Miles be his own man! Seriously, what's Marvel's problem with not letting the comic book version of Miles Morales have his own personality!?

[@garym6315]

There was a cringe line in No Way Home when Electro says "I thought you'd be black," then they hint at there being a black Spidey out there somewhere. Maybe Peter Parker should have given as good as he got - "funny, I thought Electro would be white." Its not enough that they race swapped Electro, they now have to have HIM asking why everyone else isn't race swapped.

[@Charzhino]

Its not that deep bro, it was a easter egg for miles morales

[@jackdillinger6763]

That was pretty cringey as well, but I will say at least it was played off as a joke and nothing more just to give out an Easter Egg to a certain tokenized version.

[@JPSkittlez]

You are correct it does feel like characters have become "a means to make a shinny penny" I hope marvel and DC come to terms eventually with making the characters what they are. Manga is definitely outselling comics.

[@docblade3270]

Their storyline is like the old disney comics, when any story means nothing beside what happens in it, nothing matters and there is no continuity!

[@THEJOKERSWILD]

"Peter Darker". Gold.

[@f.a.f.ocalitodewhatsrighti3365]

Well put

[@RussetMave]

Honestly I use to be irritated by this stuff but then I came to the conclusion that these aren't MY characters even though I grew up with them. Eventhough it sucks that these characters are treated horribly now there ain't shit I can do so I just grew a slightly more tolerance to it.

[@Kyle-bu3og]

The only acceptable alternate versions of Spider-Man are Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker.

[@alericc1889]

When was the last time you saw an announcement at the end of the movies to follow the adventures of the movie characters in the COMICS. Its FREE ADVERTISING and they NEVER USE IT.

[@-Ryu]

The suit does not make the character, it is the person beneath. That is why we care about Peter Parker, not Just Spider-Man. That is why we care about Clark Kent, not just Superman. We care about the suit, because we know who the people behind it are. Miles, Gwen, Jonathan, Even This newest Gay spider man we can't care about because they aren't people, they're just suits.

[@JustsomeRando4291]

I think the casting of heimdall was deliberately done because he is the only one that was explicitly stated to be a white as fresh snow.

[@Gotblade]

In a debate yesterday with Shane Davis the idea was floated that Superman is a new character!

[@andylassiter8747]

They can only tokenize so far before characters like Black Panther are Chinese with 25 different copies of him in existence

[@psquared2020]

I would disagree with you Rippa, on Miles Morales. Miles and Peter *do* have similar circumstances which led to them getting their powers. However, there are differences; Peter got his powers from a *irradiated* spider while Miles got his powers from a *genetically-altered* spider. Peter when he first got his powers, he was curious and excited and used them to make money and gain popularity. It wasn't until the death of Uncle Ben, he decides to use his powers for the greater good. Miles when he got his powers, he didn't want to have nothing to do with them. It wasn't until the death OG Ultimate Spider-Man he stepped into that role (not a mantle) of being a hero for the greater good. I believe if the writers had fleshed out Miles more and given him really good storylines his own comics would sell as much as Peter's comics.

[@mikeysrightleg1880]

'Peter Darker' - 😂😂😂

[@christhechilled]

Mangas nowadays are getting recognition the more days go along. Now you see some Mangas that are good and some are badly written but the main difference compare to American comics is this. There is only one story to tell and that's all that a reader should need.

[@ΜαρίνοςΤ-μ4ρ]

Eric, I have a question and would appreciate an answer please. You are an authority on comic lore so I would like to know how old was Spiderman supposed to be in the original 1st issue comic. Thank you.

[@kevincomstock9338]

He was 15 years old.

[@ΜαρίνοςΤ-μ4ρ]

@@kevincomstock9338 that's what I want to verify. Was he so young? When I was a kid unfortunately we had no comic stores where I lived and i mean the entire country. So all I had was one tv channel, cartoons only in the afternoon and no tv on Sundays. So, I only had the original Spiderman cartoons. I might remember wrongly but he did not seem to be that young. I thought he was at college!! And part time work at the newspaper.

[@kevincomstock9338]

The cartoon from the 90s skipped over his origin and portrayed him in college. But the first comics started with Peter in high school at 15 years old.

[@BradStarnes]

I think what most of the people who've bowed out have realized other than the supposed "creators" are actually devoid of creativity and/or are just lazy is that this shit, these changes, they only go in one direction. Iconic characters sacrificed in the name of "diversity" which, let's be honest, just means "not a straight white guy" at this point. It's all just agenda now and when you start with agenda you get characters that people hate because it's just a platform to preach about whatever supposed injustice is hot at that moment.

[@Martynde]

There were multiple different cartoon Spider-Man shows by multiple different studios. They can't legally make them a continuation of another studio's storyline, or even a straight adaptation of the comic book which is why we get shows "loosely based upon" the comic book. Cartoon, and also movie writers want to write a story of their own towards a certain audience, that may be of a different audience (or same demographic in a different decade) to someone else's story, not simply to adapt an existing a story by someone else.

[@JimSelfisHere]

"spiderfolk" haha

[@kenrobinson7563]

Miles is dope if there’s one character I see representing me it’s him

[@jackdillinger6763]

Imho I don’t have a problem with the alternate universe concept, as it can be very unique to explore what if scenarios and different takes on popular characters but the problem is the execution when it’s used to cheapen the effect of major events by completely rewriting continuity especially when you have hundreds of “universal threat” storylines each year. Then it’s also a fact it’s used not to work on new characters, new settings, and new stories(IE tokenization).

[@Chordus_Gaius]

I actually agree. 100%