If This Tkachuk Story Is True, It's UNFORGIVABLE For Them..

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Nhl news today in the middle of nhl playoffs 2023 we NEED to talk about this matthew tkachuk calgary flames debacle from before he was with the florida panthers . Nhl highlights today matthew tkachuk highlights nhl hockey 2023 stanley cup playoffs nhl reaction panthers vs maple leafs game 2 tonight we'll see if tkachuk makes the trade look even worse. Nhl playoffs tonight round 2 schedule florida panthers vs toronto maple leafs highlights 2023
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@VIVE305 Жыл бұрын

The clip of him in the locker room after the game 5 win, still down 3-2 to the Bruins, saying “remember this room. We’ll be back for game 7” was one of my favorite moments this playoffs. Legend

@FleetTech97 Жыл бұрын

Hate him as a player but that was pretty legendary of him saying that and then actually beating them in game 7. Honestly that is a captain material.

@daveatwoodsr2044 Жыл бұрын

do you think he was the first hockey player to say that? Where do you think he got it from? do you think he just made it up?

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

the fact is Tkachuk wanted out of Calgary like 2 years ago!! so there was no amount of $$ that would keep him. end of story. chapter closed. we now have Huberdeau and Kadri and they will light up the ice next season. Let's just stay positive here folks!!

@ChiefBlue4298 Жыл бұрын

@@veritasgurunot happening lol 😂

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@@ChiefBlue4298 I guess we all have our bets to hedge for me this is a given, you can play it safe. at the end of the day, when Kadri and Hubey fire (not IF) it will be a party worth being part of...Go Flames!

@davidbuchholz6527 Жыл бұрын

Worst decision Canucks ever made was drafting Olli Juolevi instead of Tkachuk…remember watching the draft and seeing him still available when Canucks went and was super excited…but once again Canucks suck at drafting and drafted a player who doesn’t even play in the nhl. Legends.

@DWreck958 Жыл бұрын

Juolevi was the fortnite addict

@owenposer6720 Жыл бұрын

Who even is that

@robbybains1622 Жыл бұрын

Another Classic Jimbo move

@ryhtijorma Жыл бұрын

He was great prospect at the time. One of the best defensman in that draftclass. Injuries pretty much messed up his career. Hasn't had a full season since his draft year.

@SMA2343 Жыл бұрын

@@ryhtijorma yeah, they talked about how they wanted and needed a defencemen and went with Juolevi. Which is wrong. You’re supposed to always draft best player available no matter what.

@davestrange3718 Жыл бұрын

ya, worse deal ever. could have kept him in the west. now he is HELL on the east. Thanks Calgary from a LEAFS fan.

@davekimball3610 Жыл бұрын

As a Bruins fan...hold my beer.

@lurk5737 Жыл бұрын

I’m a Calgary fan and didn’t care about losing Johnny but damn losing chucky tough. He’s the guy you want on your team. Guy is a pest but fuck he can play

@owenposer6720 Жыл бұрын

He didn’t want to sign long term in florida

@samuelerrington754 Жыл бұрын

@@owenposer6720 No, but I think he's bought into cat territory now. I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon😊

@sizzlechest1110 Жыл бұрын

@@owenposer6720if he didnt want to why did he? Did you hear the story where he was at bradys engagement party and legit stood up n yelled i got traded to florida! Yeah i think he wanted it to happen and hes happy it did now

@CKDUMB Жыл бұрын

As a flames fan, upset that he is gone but what can you do now. I’m happy for him in Florida, he seems happy and he’s making the playoff rounds. Good for him

@Scissors3259 Жыл бұрын

Kinda wish he played like this in the Playoffs last year though...

@SeanDoran00 Жыл бұрын

Your response is too measured! YOU MUST BE OUTRAGED!!!!!!!!

@xidis8022 Жыл бұрын

@@Scissors3259 Mcdrai mentally broke him and Gaudreau 🤣

@UFCMania155 Жыл бұрын

HEY BRO HOW ARE THE FLAMES DOING IN THE PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?!

@UFCMania155 Жыл бұрын

@@xidis8022 rofl yup

@derekcox6531 Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk is living his best life now. He’s living in the sunny south,playing on a WINNING team AND getting paid. I wish him the very best of luck!

@dylanr8481 Жыл бұрын

You play for climate? By your logic, he should have went to St. Louis

@Julio-ju2yl Жыл бұрын

@@dylanr8481 I’ve heard some ppl say also either no or low income tax so that also pretty huge. Still miss him here tho

@dylanr8481 Жыл бұрын

@@Julio-ju2yl it's true, Florida is low tax

@xtraplayer7281 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, being a millionaire in Miami is a dream !

@blakecramer1738 11 ай бұрын

@@dylanr8481 what does St. Louis have for weather ??? I’m Missing your joke ?

@syndicat4847 Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk and Bennet in Florida are two good reasons Treliving and Sutter are no longer with the Flames

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@CuziCan15 Жыл бұрын

@@veritasguru what are you even talking about? if you combine kadri and huberdeaus points they had just 2 more than tkachuk

@bobsmith962 Жыл бұрын

Bennet was a flop here.

@Tyekiller115 Жыл бұрын

@@bobsmith962 bennett wasn’t a flop management never gave him a chance

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@@CuziCan15 thats because Kadri and Huberdeau were playing under a fuking tyrant who wanted them to play his shit system. let Kadri and Hubey play the hockey they know that is being played in the playoffs today and you will see what a difference it makes. I am not bashing Tkachuk but Kadri is a better player. Tkachuk has won nothing, Kadri lifted the Avs to stardom with players like the rat, mack, makar and landeskog. so pay heed here bro and you will see what I am talking about. need to treat Kadri right, he deserves the C and we need to get rid of coach cock sukers in Lindholm and Backlund. thats it.

@michaelschiff4837 Жыл бұрын

I remember when the Huberdeau/Tkachuk trade went down and Flames fans screamed victory. Nhl.cop even ranked Weegar as a top-25 defenseman. Great seeing the Panthers come out with the W in this one, Tkachuk is a future hall of famer.

@basilperdikakis7627 11 ай бұрын

The flames coach is 100 percent responsible for their failure this season. Watch them next year after they hire Ted Nolan or whoever......

@RandallK1968NS 11 ай бұрын

No, he's not a future HOF ffs

@ChiefBlue4298 11 ай бұрын

@@basilperdikakis7627and they’ll still underachieve again

@theramplocal 11 ай бұрын

I think the flames looked at it as a W w the situation they were dealt, not like they won the Tkachuk trade

@JackBirdbath 11 ай бұрын

@@RandallK1968NS He's 25 years old and he's breaking loose. Two monster seasons and an insane playoffs. He's just getting started. Why would you bet against that?

@jwtre Жыл бұрын

100% accurate. He always said he wanted to be a flame for life and was so happy when the flames drafted him. He was asked if he wished he was drafted higher and he said no way he only wanted to play for the flames. Something happening with the bridge and then they brought in Sutter and wouldnt assign a captain unlike every other team and there was also a general lack of passion and lack of winning culture, which made him want to move on. He still never trash talked the organization afterwards. Only ever said good things.

@FalloutUrMum Жыл бұрын

It's funny how classy he is off ice

@tylerbellows5358 Жыл бұрын

To be fair if he wanted to be a flame for life hed still be a flame

@brendenrodgers7821 Жыл бұрын

@@FalloutUrMum it’s the same as marchand. I feel like those pest type players are actually the nicest guys off the ice

@misguidedangel6550 Жыл бұрын

Most 18 year olds are happy as all hell and say they wanna stay on the team forever

@landons2624 Жыл бұрын

Unlike Johnny, he let the team know he wasn’t going to resign & wanted to be traded & so they can get something in return for him.

@rockrealmm Жыл бұрын

i’m upset all over again.

@ArmChairGMPodcast Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk himself has referenced this in interviews in the past. As a flames fan it's insanely frustrating. I can't grasp why people are upset brad is gone. The lack of foresight with Tkachuk, gaudreau, Giordano and Monahan are all unforgivable.

@YBGucci Жыл бұрын

couldn't agree with you more. Local media will praise Treliving but all of the players you mentioned, including Bennett are gone. And we got absolutely nothing of value for them.

@carterhancock9830 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m absolutely sick of people in the media gushing about Brad. “He’s such a good person and GM”. Blah blah blah. Sure he’s a good person but not a good GM. When he had the opportunity to sign Tkachuck long term he didn’t. Same thing with Gaudreau.

@michaeljjan6344 Жыл бұрын

Giordano isn't that good. Agree with the rest of that list.

@ArmChairGMPodcast Жыл бұрын

@michael JJan to me he should've been traded long before he was taken. You have a guy in his mid 30s winning a Norris trophy you instantly take advantage of that value that will never resurface at that age.

@joeyg1463 Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljjan6344 thats norris winning defenseman giordano to you

@99oildrops Жыл бұрын

Even as an Oilers fan who hated Tkachuk, I certainly appreciated what he contributed to the Battle of Alberta. It's not the same without him. It's quite boring without him. Best of luck to him for the rest of the playoffs. 👍

@Bushanie24 11 ай бұрын

how many times do the flames play the oilers ? Braindead commish is ruining every rivalry in the league. I am on the east coast in NY and he murdered the Islander s Rangers rivalry

@DustinMikkelsen Жыл бұрын

Both brothers are just like their dad, I don't know how anyone could let either go.

@mattblom3990 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, seems like Brady has more of their dad's personality. Keith was coming towards the end of his career when I got into hockey but it seemed to be he was a power forward but a quiet one.

@nickbois2911 Жыл бұрын

How anyone could let them go or pass them by at the draft … but hey Marc Bergevin as a Gm for the montreal Canadiens did !🤣🤣

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын

Ottawa, hold my beer. Probably.

@gregcushing1716 Жыл бұрын

@@mrillis9259 definitely! Ottawa has a great player in Brady, I live in Ottawa & that's all Ottawa fans & sports radio talk about. Sens gonna be a going concern the next few years.

@pauli2951 Жыл бұрын

As a Panthers fan I have overflowing joy watching this. Thanks Flames!

@MrBlair56 Жыл бұрын

There are literally dozens of you! 😂😂😂

@pauli2951 Жыл бұрын

@@MrBlair56 Just makes it feel more special

@Kezmo 11 ай бұрын

Likewise!! (I’m one of the dozens 😂)

@gillesgibeault9135 11 ай бұрын

Where was it flowing from .

@mikewilson2488 Жыл бұрын

“I never would have imagined myself signing a three year deal with Calgary back in 2019. I was committed to signing long term. Last second the only deal that could work for them was that” - Matthew Tkachuk.

@yooowhatupribs Жыл бұрын

Source?

@mikewilson2488 Жыл бұрын

@@yooowhatupribs kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpaplKuwet-afq8

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@yooowhatupribs Жыл бұрын

@@veritasguru that's contradictory to what you're responding to 🤔

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@@yooowhatupribs is it?

@starfishprime7721 Жыл бұрын

I think keeping the team together was always just the story they wanted to tell. If you listen to Tkachuk on Spittin Chicklets after he was traded he actually talks about holding out that summer. I think he didn’t care to go along with the narrative anymore after he wasn’t in Calgary. Also came out in that interview that Tkachuk despised Sutter

@todd1771 Жыл бұрын

Sutter was a big part of the motivation. Old school hockey grinding and no flare for new innovative playing styles. Mgmt really botched this all around.

@brianfantana8510 Жыл бұрын

He said he couldn't stand Sutter as soon as he got to Fla. Said it's so refreshing to have a coach that knows how to talk to players.

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@VIVE305 Жыл бұрын

And his contract is LESS than Huberdeau’s lol. And with how Montour has stepped up so majorly, looking better than Weegar ever was, Florida looks to be in great shape.

@Zekeormoses Жыл бұрын

To play the devil's advocate, even if the Flames extended Tkachuk, there is still 0 guarantee he would still be a Flame today much less the captain. If he was given a long term contract and started to feel disconnected like he did, his performance would likely be affected or he would have just requested a trade and the team could very well be in the same situation.

@MrKleenexDude Жыл бұрын

He talks about how that is still a better situation than the current state in this video

@3322pie Жыл бұрын

As a life long florida panther fan, I see this as an absolute win

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@@PolarBearPredator correct

@Aegis359 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I was wondering how the Flames could let me down during the offseason

@brown_recidivist Жыл бұрын

What was unforgiveable is Jim Benning passing on Matthew Tkachuk to take Ollie Juolevi lol

@RealSuperNintendan Жыл бұрын

Ollie was the unnamed video game addict.

@rubberduckie5518 Жыл бұрын

And Clayton Keller at 7! Sergachev at 9! McAvoy was 14! SMDH

@Kevfate Жыл бұрын

People kept saying that he had 100 points because of Gaudreau , I think it was the other way around. Tkachuk makes everyone around him better

@misguidedangel6550 Жыл бұрын

Most people knew this at the time. This is nothing earth shattering. Most Flames fans wanted him signed for the 8 years, not the bridge deal. Whether it was to keep Frolik is anyones guess, maybe it was maybe it wasnt, doesnt really matter now. Trelliving took a calculated risk/gamble and signed Tkachuk to the bridge, he had seasons of 48 points, 49 and 77 points. He was coming around but nobody thought he would become a player that has multiple 100+ point seasons at this point of his career. Remember, when he signed his new bridge contract his productivity dropped quite a bit the next 2 seasons. He went from 34 goals and 77 points (in 80 games) in his contract year to 23 goals and 61 points (in 69 games) in the first season of his new $7M AAV contract. The second season of his new contract his productivity dropped even more. 16 goals and 34 points in 56 games is hardly a $7 million dollar player and people were saying "thank god we didnt sign him for 8 years and $9 or $10 million a year" Lets also not forget about the numerous "players only" team meetings the first couple years of his new bridge deal that the team had over Tkachuk antics on the ice and how many players were getting tired of sticking up for him over senseless stuff. Hindsights always 20/20 but at the time of the bridge nobody could have predicted numerous 100+ point seasons from Tkachuk 😊

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@SoFlaSooner Жыл бұрын

As a Panthers fan, after hearing how we got fleeced in the Tkachuk deal until not to long into the season, I couldn’t be happier about how it worked out. Tkachuk is an absolute beast and I can’t wait to watch him play here for the next 7+ years.

@geometricsphereuniversalin7043 Жыл бұрын

The Tkachuks are both so good and tough you'd think they were Canadian

@KyprosEc Жыл бұрын

Except Keith was American...LOL

@mcaddicts Жыл бұрын

Their mom is Canadian.

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@KyprosEc Жыл бұрын

@@veritasguru stay positive about what won't happen

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@@KyprosEc what will happen will happen, I am extremely confident about my optimism.

@greathoonta3461 Жыл бұрын

This is such a stupid take. Whether he had that contract or not he was leaving. He didn’t leave because he didn’t like Calgary, he left because Gaudreau left. And if he stayed I can guarantee he wasn’t going to actually play for them. He would have pulled a Jack Eichel and refused to play until he was traded.

@DownsyMB 11 ай бұрын

This. Just because he had a contract doesn't mean he wouldn't have asked out. The combo of Gaudreau leaving and Sutter being there he would've asked out.

@chucky2pucky Жыл бұрын

I like Chuky and ended up kind of rooting for the flames in the west because of him. He is one of my favorite players that's not on the pens.

@MS-ro9dm 9 ай бұрын

AND, and the Leafs in their never failing wisdom now have that very GM. Just brilliant.

@forktrus Жыл бұрын

Not a Flames fan -- but Tkachuk is a beast -- and if the scuttlebutt is true -- that's rough rocks without a doubt. That whole scenario should be taught in GM University as a step-by-step guide for how to get fired into the sun.

@coolvi6015 Жыл бұрын

The Flames would have at least converted half a dozen OT/SOL's into the win column if Tkachuk was playing with one hand.

@bentrig9128 Жыл бұрын

We bridged Tkachuk to keep Frolik for a few months. Oh man.. you just ruined my lunch break.

@rubberduckie5518 Жыл бұрын

If it makes Flames fans feel better, Canucks or Oilers couldve drafted Tkachuk at 4 or 5. Also, the Sabres gave up Montour and look at him now...

@kamcashman Жыл бұрын

Love the channel, love you personally. .., But I think a lot of his greatness as of late is possibly the maturing and the evolution that comes from professional hockey players and athletes that don't stick with the same team like you're talking about. i'm already giving half of the credit for the Stanley Cup they win this year to their coach. There I said it fight-me!!!

@kamcashman Жыл бұрын

Just to be clear I'm opening the offer of an invitation to fight anybody else that is not Mr Johnny hockey... That boy is tough. Better off just keeping the blood on the ice

@imutorln2470 11 ай бұрын

As a former Flames fan. It hurts to see such a talented and loyal player go like this... Now the panthers with lots of young talent collected another fantastic player with lots of experience. Like thanos collecting another stone for his gauntlet. They are dumping on the leafs 3-0 no one saw it coming.

@jaseys Жыл бұрын

I don’t think he wanted to be a lifelong Flame. Good on him to say all the right things, but his game is at another level right now. I didn’t see this amount of passion in Calgary. Although someone stated in the comments here that Tkachuk wasn’t thrilled with the effort being put out around him there. If that was indeed the case, good on him for moving on. Nothing worse than giving your all, and your teammates not doing the same.

@Bluey_777 Жыл бұрын

I remember there was a game a few years ago where Tkachuk got the puck flipped at him and his teammates just stood there. That, combined with the flames not wanting to give him the C and his issues with Sutter, I think he felt the team and coach didn't fully have his back. We know now Sutter tried to hold him back and didn't fully embrace his play style. Just seemed like a toxic situation, it's never a good sign when every single good player wants to leave... I think he just said the "right things" because he wants to respect the fans. Although so many Flames fans flipped on him after he was traded, most realize he wasn't the issue. Sutter should have been long gone.

@bobbiedylan9758 Жыл бұрын

If this is true, WOW 🤦🏾‍♂️ He’s been a beast and now he’s been unleashed!

@maxfalconridge Жыл бұрын

Brett Hull, Joe Neiuwendyk, Doug Gilmour, Mike Vernon, Martin St. Louis, Matthew Tkachuk... Flames getting rid of players and it coming back to bite us in the ass, that's pretty much how we roll. Our lot in life as Flames fans is to suffer after the trade

@bobsmith962 Жыл бұрын

Joe N for iginla?

@RelaxingGhost Жыл бұрын

Holy shit. You blowing up my man 💣 🔥

@thefrenchr6950 Жыл бұрын

Ouch!!! That really hurts!

@jimclarence5441 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Regarding the Tkachuk trade. Thought it was good trade for Flames, getting Huberdeau, Weager and first. But the Flames screwed up big time with that 10,5m X 8 years extension for Huberdeau which will start when he's 30 years of age

@1andonlyMiro Жыл бұрын

I think Barkov will, again, raise to the occasion either in these playoffs or next year and take the mantle of the teams superstar. I think he can mesh well with most other players but not click with them instantaneusly. I think they'll be brilliant together although I still kind of miss the chemistry between Barkov and Huberdeau. The future for Florida is still bright.

@meanwhileinsooke Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk loves it Florida, he is American, pays very little taxes, no snow.. He loves it there

@Jz9222 Жыл бұрын

And sane governor, which is rare nowadays.

@mr.devil9577 Жыл бұрын

Florida is dope but half the year it's unbearably hot lol

@jfkst1 Жыл бұрын

I love how they all ignore that he might have wanted to be in Florida and nothing they were going to do would stop that.

@mvk4343 Жыл бұрын

@@Jz9222 There is no such thing as a sane US politician

@T0mat0_S0up Жыл бұрын

@@mvk4343 Honestly as a Canadian, I think our prime minister is more extreme than those US politicians

@JoE-kx7dw Жыл бұрын

Loved watching him play with Mitch on the London Knight's, when they won the Memorial Cup.

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@bnorms1617 Жыл бұрын

At least Ottowa was smart enough to sign Brady long term

@mooluftschloss Жыл бұрын

oof. I feel the pain in your voice... Tough break, Johnny. Maybe it'll all work out in the end!

@gemparaiso8408 Жыл бұрын

As a Canucks fan I wanted him in 2016 instead of Olli Juolevi at 5th, during his draft year I knew the type of player he was going to become. I have a feeling the same story will be true with Elias Pettersson, after his entry level deal he signed a 3 year bridge deal, and after next season I won’t blame him if he leaves Vancouver. Going back to the Michael Frolik part, I’m going to guess Tanner Pearson was the guy they wanted to keep so they gave him a bridge over a long term deal.

@sucraf1 Жыл бұрын

Why would you pick Juolevi over Tkachuk is ridiculous. But that is Canucks drafting. Just the name Tkachuk is worth picking. LOL. Imagine Tkachuk with Cancuks. I think they would be in the the playoffs more than missing them. But again with the Canucks, they probably would of screw something up so he wouldn't develop properly or wanted to get traded.

@gemparaiso8408 Жыл бұрын

@@sucraf1 Ya I always had more confidence in Tkachuk and wanted him more back then, but if we picked him I don’t believe we would have gotten Pettersson and Hughes, at that time we needed defence, Joulevi was the best available then, but after him were other defencemen like Mikhail Sergachev, Charlie McAvoy, and Adam Fox. Just imagine that and then later on if we got Quinn Hughes.

@Oliverclothsoff 11 ай бұрын

I think Johnny leaving was a major blow to him wanting anything to do with Calgary. They had statistically the best line in hockey with lindholm, and won the pacific division. Things looked bright in Calgary, and you think he left cause of Michael frolik?

@Chaseonfire 11 ай бұрын

Leon Draisaitl was in a very similar situation. He ended up with an 8.5*8 contract that some people thought was overpayed at the time. Tkachuk probably would have taken 9 or 9.5*8 but instead they walked him to free agency.

@nickhughes8179 11 ай бұрын

The one deal Peter Chiarelli didn’t derp up. Either he’s lucky or he knew something we didn’t with Draisaitl

@schmingusss Жыл бұрын

And what if Tkachuk turned out to be a bust after a long term deal ? Happens all the time. A player does well before signing a long term deal and then, once signed, numbers drop. Look at Kadri. No one has a crystal ball that can predict these things.

@johanstinson Жыл бұрын

Thays the risk you take but it was pretty damn clear that Tkachuk wasn't going to be a bust.

@jaseys Жыл бұрын

Kadri was off to a good start this season, and then it fell right off. I wonder what happened?

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@zenbhudda8342 11 ай бұрын

Tkachuk was a keeper, worse case scenario you overpay him a couple million. Losing and disrespecting a player is unacceptable. Up in flames 🔥

@Kdawg1287 Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe after this trade was done late into the night when it was announced I was so pissed thinking this was a win by flames. Maybe it’s because it was coming off the cusp of a president trophy season and the raw feeling of bowing out in the 2nd round. It was the first time we had hope as panthers fans. But after the dust settled. I feel like the panthers made out big. Hubby is mehh in the big games and Keith is that guy you need in the trenches come playoff time. The dirty greasy goals with the ability to score the sexy ones too. You want and need that kinda guy. Flames fumbled this hard. Panthers got a better player and a younger one at that.

@trentreimer130 Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the club. My Jets let Paul Maurice go. Well, well, turns out he wasn't the problem, but at least he and Tkachuk are now enjoying some great playoff hockey.

@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi Жыл бұрын

Man Flames fans have just been in the rough for 2 decades now, just so much under achieving every year. Treliving really turned out to be a dud of a GM, it’s terrible ownership decisions like that that’s lead to results like this season

@iamnavarres8085 Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk has already said he wanted a long term deal.

@hockeyog Жыл бұрын

Chuky said on Spittin' Chiclets Ep 414 @ 1:59:00 (Nov 8, 2022) He's was looking for 6, 7, 8 years. :(

@owenposer6720 Жыл бұрын

If the flames can get a coach that has a better offensive upside to him they I’m sure Huber would do much better, sutter is a defensive coach, huberdeau was used to offence. Just saying the trade may be lost now but they still got a great defenceman and a former 100p player

@johns1187 Жыл бұрын

Treliving's worst decision was not making a move for a more reliable goaltender at the deadline. Doing just this would have saved his job. It could have even been as simple as bringing in James Reimer. Markstrom continuing to play and continuing to drop the ball during key games down the stretch destroyed this team.

@jaseys Жыл бұрын

Yeah is Markstrom signed for a while though? If he is they are kind of forced to use him unless they try to move him. His game dipped a bit though like you say, making a move difficult. Flames have gone through some goalies of late, and in the past have been unlucky with highly touted drafted goaltenders. But every team wants the solid GoTo guy and those are few and far between. I agree though, with better goaltending the Flames would be better, but that is every team.

@benyang2427 Жыл бұрын

Tough break here....8 yr deal with the C would've been preferable

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@nerinamak3298 Жыл бұрын

Zito working on getting Brady to play on that Bennett line

@xmas13_ Жыл бұрын

As a Flames fan it was upsetting that a star in the making wanted to sign long term but wasn't able to get done, but I'm happy to see him doing great in Florida

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@MikeyMike-uu3fe 11 ай бұрын

And he scores in the 4th OT early this morning to give the Panthers a 1-0 Series lead......Tkchuck is playing on another level these playoffs 👊

@thefrenchr6950 Жыл бұрын

It's becoming very clear that the owners are actually the biggest problem with the Flames. Every since King passed it's been down hill. Everything has to go through the nitpicking owners and the GM has less power then they should have. Not sure if that should fall 100% on Tree for that story(if true). They made him sign Sutter, then he wasn't allowed to get ride of him, now since everyone else will walk too, they finally said goodbye to him. The owners need to stay out of, what they hire people to do for them, that's their job and what you hired them for.

@MrGamman3yt Жыл бұрын

I think we're better off than Vancouver, but yes. Even sign him long term, and if he's a dud, trade him. Look at the other bad contracts in the league. This would have been one of many. However, the downside now, is, unemployment, perhaps permanently for Tree.

@guyh.4121 Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk and Marner played on the London Knights Memorial Cup winning team in 2016, with Mathew playing on a “Sprained ankle”. He scored the Cup wining goal in OT. If that didn’t tell the Flames what kind of player he was, no wonder they lost him to Florida and it’s showing now.

@spartuz71 Жыл бұрын

And that's why Pierre Dorion deserves a lot credit for being able to sign Brady and Timmy to long term contracts here next will be Sanderson and there's no doubt they will sign him long term. The Ottawa Senators are doing it the right way by signing all their young stars players to long term contract.

@stockey Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk didn't want to stay in Calgary, they had no choice to trade him.

@DirtyDan77 Жыл бұрын

I think it was pretty obvious that things weren't working out with the old core so not too heart broken about this story. Flames did a great job of making what was, on paper, a well rounded team that could shut down the Oilers in the playoffs. How were they supposed to predict that Huberdeau and Kadri would just take the money and stop trying?

@owenposer6720 Жыл бұрын

They had the best line last year wdym it wasn’t working. Markstrom was garbanzo in the playoffs though

@jfkst1 Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk was young so good bet he would keep improving. Huberdeau and Kadri are 30 and 32. Safe bet they will decline. It is still ridiculous to criticize without knowing the specifics. Tkachuk might simply not want to be in Calgary.

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@allucknoskill4695 Жыл бұрын

With all that said, I did not expect Calgary to be so bad with weegar and huberdeau. Maybe they’ll turn it around next season

@dianedyck3474 Жыл бұрын

I think they will!…suter was the wrong coach for this team!

@braaaaaains 11 ай бұрын

Dudes insane. To not only be lifting your team up with words off the ice (not just the usual chirping, but real confident wait and see shit), but then laying it down on the ice - I feel like they're getting better every playoff game. Calgary's gonna be sad they see him lift the cup this year.

@raymonddunne7153 Жыл бұрын

If this is true I don't think Sutter is to blame. If Tkutchuk stays the flames make the playoffs and Sutter keeps his job. Firing Sutter might be the 2nd biggest mistake.

@hardw0od Жыл бұрын

I remember last year when ALL Flames fans said that the Panthers were ROBBED. That the deal that they made was "Highway Robbery" and that it would be forever until we recovered from it. Well those statements aged like milk. Tkachuk, honestly is a Top 10 player in this league, but during the playoffs he's irreplaceable. After watching Huberdeau for years I knew that Tkachuk was EXACTLY what the Panthers needed and he is a bargain at 9.5 AAV. Thanks Treliving

@benchow8851 Жыл бұрын

Shortly after the Flames shipped Tkachuk off, everyone kept saying they won the deal by far for getting Hube and Weeger in return, and how they were gonna squeeze way more points and value out of those two than they would out of Tkachuk. Tkachuk has always been a great player...

@sadface6635 Жыл бұрын

Tkchuck really woke up in September last season and was like, “I’m gonna be one of the best players in the world this year” and then he did.

@ImGettinWeird Жыл бұрын

Oh that's what he was like ?

@chrisbougie9589 Жыл бұрын

As an oil fan.. I luv the deal.. cause now I can enjoy the little bastard instead of hate his guts. Thanks brad lol

@Scissors3259 Жыл бұрын

The Sens learned from this. They signed his brother long term out of his Entry Level Deal. Tkachuk was always going to leave, I firmly believe that. But at least had the flame signed him to an 8 year deal out of his ELC, they would have bought the first 3 years of his UFA eligibility.

@ryuujinmassatsu1509 Жыл бұрын

As a Wild fan, this makes me feel not so bad when thinking about how Kaprizov is going to walk at the end of his contract to go to a winning team

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@brandonpatrick6489 Жыл бұрын

Imagine him with McDavid & Draisaitl! man, the Oilers would've been so freaking scary! but they drafted Puljujarvi instead who now might be a bigger bust than Yakupov. He went 6th overall in 2016 when nobody knew how much potential he was going to have. Today he's the 2nd best player from the 2016 draft after Matthews.

@scottdixon4495 Жыл бұрын

I don't know if you could point the blame at any one person. But at the end of the day it's all mismanagement. Very frustrating. Time for a full rebuild.

@samsonau8205 Жыл бұрын

Oiler fan. I recall assuming Columbus drafting JP leaving MT on the table for us. I was happy to get a gritty guy on our team. Imagine what could have been in another reality.

@bigbooma Жыл бұрын

It’s cause they drafted PLD. If they had picked Pulju, the Oilers would have drafted MT. JP was the best player available, according to scouting.

@gayracistretard Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk lives in Johnny’s head rent free. Crazy how much he can’t stop talking about what’s in the past.

@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын

Now I genuinely feel bad for my friend who's from Calgary and a massive flames fan.

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@CP4Z167 Жыл бұрын

As an Oiler fan, I wanted Edmonton to take him with the 4th overall pick that year. Imagine a prime Thachuk with McDavid, Drai , RNH and maybe Kane/Hyman 😢

@canadasugardaddysugardaddy1797 Жыл бұрын

Worst decision the oilers made that will prevent them from winning the cup this year was drafting Jesse instead of Tkachuk that year. Imagine how much more devastating the oil offense would be with Tkachuk in there.

@roberteaston6413 11 ай бұрын

In 1995 I was at the Coliseum for the entry draft. The Oilers had the 6th pick. They picked Steve Kelly. A groan went through the entire building. Shane Doan was available. He was from central Alberta and was considered a local boy. Steve Kelly lasted less than two years. The Oilers also drafted Jason Bonsorgne. Same thing. They did draft Ryan Smyth. It is bad when the average fan in the stands knows better than the Oiler management who to draft. Steve Kelly a year and a half and Shane Doan 17 years.

@Re207 11 ай бұрын

sounds like management didn't know what they had. he's now the centerpiece of a stanley cup-contending team. not sure he would've made it there with calgary, so good for him. hope they make the most of their shot at a title

@Yn0rHz Жыл бұрын

As painful as it is as a flames fan to see Gaudreau and Tkachuk walk away, all we can do now is look forward to the future under a new GM and Coach. I wouldn't even mind if we go for a rebuild at this point and activate some of our younger players

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@cog1140 Жыл бұрын

When all the best players bolt out of there, you know you have a management problem.

@shardhoney Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk is the player the Panthers needed all along. So happy we got him for Huby "Who Cares" Huberdeau.

@Tank1TC Жыл бұрын

Lots of hindsight in this opinion. At the time of the bridge deal, tkachuk was only worth 7 MM and even that was an overpay. The year after he signed he was a 60 pojnt player. You don’t pay more then 7 mm for a 60 point player. The bridge was a risk but it saved Treliving over paying. Sutter took the fun out of playing hockey and that is why Tkachuk left. His bridge deal made it easy for him to walk away from Sutters gulag. With a different atmosphere I think Johnny and Tkachuk would have re-signed Sutter was the biggest mistake the flames made. Not sure who is responsible for that, but that decision may have come from someone above Treliving.

@firedropyt Жыл бұрын

really sad about what happened to him

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@firedropyt Жыл бұрын

@@veritasguru Just gotta pray that it works out better than the last season

@veritasguru Жыл бұрын

@@firedropyt sure, you are right to a certain extent. but we can't leave it all for God Almighty to solve it for us. gotta do our homework. so, keep Hubey with Kadri, get rid of coaches pets like Linhholm and Backlund and the rest will take care of it self. oh get Boudreau or Milbury or Cassidy or best yet Paul Maurice as coach, the Flames are winning the Cup next year. Go Flames!

@BlackMasakari Жыл бұрын

We always want to put blame on someone - sometimes people just need a change - sometimes any change is good. Ofc, sometimes change is bad too.

@mikeking9696 Жыл бұрын

That’s crazy! Because here my Habs are wanting a long term with Caufield but sounds like he’s only wanting a bridge! Writing is on the walk he leaves after a few years! So if Flames could have signed Tkachuk long term? Shame on them!

@kweqwequgtweqfq4694 Жыл бұрын

As a Jets fan looking at the 2016 draft makes me sick considering we lost Laine and are about to lose Dubois when we had a chance to draft Tkachuk

@kodiakcorcoran9769 10 ай бұрын

We probably would’ve lost Tkachuk too

@BTSF Жыл бұрын

How exactly is this news?

@markoveli5613 Жыл бұрын

Keith's son is a perfect fit for the cats

@mikehazeldine6695 11 ай бұрын

Everything i have ever read had said he didn't want to sign a long term contract to stay in Calgary.

@AKlover Жыл бұрын

Tax rates in Florida HAVE to be cheaper than they are in Canada. Except for maybe property taxes. Also it would open the door for him to stay in the states indefinitely.

@davidgreen3001 Жыл бұрын

It's much much MUCH better than Canada. FL doesn't even have a state income tax. I couldn't imagine playing for a Canadian team knowing your buds south of you are making so much more money than you are because nearly half of your income goes to Trudeau and his gay parties.

@mvlone2k7 11 ай бұрын

he still could have signed a long term deal and help build this team, it would have been his team, no one knew he was gonna be a 100 point player!

@Ryan-vo3rm 11 ай бұрын

Yup should have taken a lesson from Ottawa who has his brother Brady and they know what they got a signed him long term.. that's going to pay off for Ottawa, especially with their young team that has tons of talent that already are looking pretty damn good.. some time and experience in the NHL for those young guy's and they will shine.

@austint3468 Жыл бұрын

Bridging gaudreau and thachuk is reason enough why treliving shoul have been gone earlier

@michaelgurnick8422 Жыл бұрын

Your looking at this with a lot of privilege of hindsight. However, a few things I would point out. Tkachuck signing an 8 year deal would have simply cost too much. Frolik eventually being traded was a cap dump - which could also point to Treliving making sure the cap space was available in the future to extend Tkachuck. Tkachuck announced a year early he wouldn't sign. So a guy says he wanted to sign long term, but then two years later says he won't sign long term and somehow that is Treliving's fault? Had Tkachuck signed long term, would he have hamstrung the organization and publicly demanded a trade?

@dakotaslim 11 ай бұрын

Matthew Tkachuk is unique. And I'm using the proper definition of the word, one of a kind. Nobody fits the description, "Matthew Tkachuk type player." Flames had a generational talent that elevates the effectiveness of his teammates and would have kept the team relevant for 10-15 years.