If You Keep Missing Your Spares, You Need To Watch This

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Darren Tang

Darren Tang

Күн бұрын

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@bhartissimo
@bhartissimo Ай бұрын
Thanks, Darren. I use a 3-6-9 system, shooting through board 20 at the arrows. It generally works as long as I hit the target (board 20). But you're given me some options to try out for specific spares. And I definitely have to try what you suggested for washouts and splits.
@BillyDaGoat1017
@BillyDaGoat1017 Ай бұрын
“When you miss it, you’re actually missing by more than you think” is so Darren lmao!!!
@scotthoward6070
@scotthoward6070 21 күн бұрын
I would add that on a ten pin you can miss by a lot, but you can cut your miss area in half if you miss poorly in one direction. It seems to me that the pros miss 10 pins more on the left side than the right. It would be interesting to find out for sure.
@BillyDaGoat1017
@BillyDaGoat1017 21 күн бұрын
@@scotthoward6070 interesting perspective
@theking7657
@theking7657 Ай бұрын
Took me a while to learn how to flatten my wrist and have been struggling with being consistent. This is gonna help a ton . Thank Darren !
@40beretta1
@40beretta1 Ай бұрын
this vid is going into that bowling save bag for sure. I wish you had shown how you set your feet before approaching. I really liked how you made the point of getting the points. If you have three pins, at least pick up two...
@CamTate
@CamTate Ай бұрын
Definitely watching before league tonight
@tg2great916
@tg2great916 Ай бұрын
Good luck
@justinbenefiel
@justinbenefiel Ай бұрын
Same for me today tonight as well.
@alexfisher2002
@alexfisher2002 Ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the 3-6-9-10. I’ve left that way too much recently and have struggled to pick it up.
@TheJudge317
@TheJudge317 Ай бұрын
Honestly have been waiting for a video like this and can say thank you. Def gave some some good insight on how to pick up more spares.
@TheAmazingBendini
@TheAmazingBendini Ай бұрын
Excellent! Was looking for a detailed breakdown of set up and target on every main leave and this is it!
@cspmg
@cspmg Ай бұрын
Probably one of the best videos you've ever done, Darren. Also, great camerawork and editing, as always. Always supporting the entire House, but DTang's stuff is just a cut above. Love to see all the guys getting subs and support now.
@Barbara-sl7qw
@Barbara-sl7qw 5 күн бұрын
New bowler of one year, and I was approaching spare shots about 2 mph slower than strike shots thinking this increased concentration (or something). Tried, “hard and straight” with phenomenal success, and tyvm. 😊
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 Ай бұрын
This is one of Mr. Tang's best videos. I like how he moved fast through the spares providing guidance. This video makes Nelson Burton's "Rolaids Tip of the Week" look third grade level. One thing Mr. Tang should have emphasized was if you are on a league, missing single pin spares is a crime against your team, it doesn't just wreck your game. On our team if you miss a single pin spare you have to add money to the strike poker pot and get ridiculed. Single pin spares are too easy to make, so if you don't then you need to watch this video.
@drsudz
@drsudz Ай бұрын
I like your fines! We have a couple of teammates who just don't pay attention to anything that is going on. They never know who is ahead or by how much, they are too busy chatting with friends, (they actually have their non-bowling friends sit down at the table) The worst thing is, they'll lose focus, throw the ball and get a single pin - usually the 7, then rush back to the screen to see whether or not they were on a spare! And if we remind them before they shoot that they're on a spare, omg... For bonus points, guess what gender these two are?
@drwisdom1
@drwisdom1 Ай бұрын
@@drsudz Hmm, on our team we don't need to check. We are always on a spare, strike, or double. Sounds like your team has a case of distracted bowling.
@Hank-Bubba
@Hank-Bubba Ай бұрын
​@drwisdom1 yep...
@ksjlb2612
@ksjlb2612 Ай бұрын
If nobody has said it yet, thank you so much for making this type of video! I have been contemplating using the straight system for spare shooting even though I rarely see anything but a house shot. On top of that, in the last few years age has made my game decline so I needed something to be more competitive. Since I haven't had much practice time, I only break out the straight game for anything shy of the 3-6-10 combination when I feel there is no other option. Luckily I guessed right last night and nailed the 2-10. Keep making a few of these videos for those of us who really want to hear it from those who really depend on it.
@spyghetti
@spyghetti Ай бұрын
DTang always brings the best explanation and tips.. a lot of great pros with channels but Darren is one of the best imo.
@jeffmarkham5769
@jeffmarkham5769 Ай бұрын
Great information! I really like hearing your tips and techniques to help all be be better. Thank you.
@SlothPlayingGames
@SlothPlayingGames Ай бұрын
This video came right on time. I missed my first single pin of the season, open KZbin when I got home and this is the first video that was recommended to me
@SteveSierigk
@SteveSierigk Ай бұрын
I generally look at pins for spares but tried your system with great success in today's league play...thanks for getting me out of my old ways!
@SpeedDemon7165
@SpeedDemon7165 Ай бұрын
Great tips you are giving me Darren, I started watching your channel for a while now, and I like your advice, it helps me a lot
@pebbleschan6085
@pebbleschan6085 Ай бұрын
Since corner pins are essentially accessible from one side, I loft the gutter with great success! 🎉
@XxFrankieBxX
@XxFrankieBxX 28 күн бұрын
Great information. I'm incorporating this into my practice today! 😊
@kenhill6408
@kenhill6408 Ай бұрын
Wow! You just explained how I was taught to pick up spares 50 years ago, right down to the 2.5 boards left or right, and make it hit the pin twice on the way down. My teammates look at me like I am nuts when I tell them that is what they should be doing. It is a bit harder to explain now since we have those damn white lanes without all of the board lines. I have even been told that I throw too straight at the pins. I am right-handed, and during warmups before the league, I try to pick off just the 10 and then just the 7 to get my mind straight before we start bowling. Thanks for making this old man feel vindicated for those who seem to think area bowling is the thing to do on spares.
@sabrialquza9024
@sabrialquza9024 Ай бұрын
Im a lefty and I will defintely try this, now makes everything seem alot easier thank you Nice video
@KobeRon-nin
@KobeRon-nin Ай бұрын
A big Thank you Darren!!👍🏻🎳 Great tips indeed! ❤❤❤
@wallele3910
@wallele3910 Ай бұрын
This video helped me so much!!! Thanks Darren!!!
@MrGilfred
@MrGilfred 6 күн бұрын
I had a system for shooting spares and I based it off of some of the touring pros methods for picking spares. Although I went a little on my own with the ten pin spares because to make the adjustments for oily lanes that the ball would go into the gutter if I shot it from the center arrow all of the time It would be hard for me to make the correct adjustments to hit the ten pin almost every time. That is why I would shot the ten from somewhere between the middle third arrow on the left to the middle of the third arrow on the right. The whole point of my ten pin spares was I would want to hit the ten pin left of the center of the pin drawing a line based on how oily the lane was to whatever spot on the lane I wanted the ball to roll over at the arrows. Also knowing my ball wasn't a big hook ball to start with. I did about the same for the seven pin wanting to hit it with the ball to the right of the center of the pin. I was pretty accurate at hitting both corner pins. as far as the other spares goes like I said I used the tips that touring pros gave at the time to be able to spare the rest of the pins that I left and it made me a better spare shooter. If I needed the ball to go straight and the lanes were dry. I would use Marshal Holman's type of straight ball because I wouldn't need a lot of strength to pull it off. I would intentionally top the ball which makes it an inefficient roll thus killing the hook.
@RUSure2449
@RUSure2449 Ай бұрын
Great video. One point that seems inconsistent to me. If hooking at 2-8, is advantageous then I think that hooking at 3-6 - 9-10, would have a nearly equivalent advantage.
@anthonyhart7878
@anthonyhart7878 Ай бұрын
I always attribute parallaxing to having a cross dominant eye. Right handed with a left-eye dominance or visa versa
@spyghetti
@spyghetti Ай бұрын
I knew about this from putting in golf but it translates a lot in all sports, I didn't think about it in bowling.. the epiphany moment was tennis and contact point from forehand to backhand which eye sees the ball first on either side. Definitely helpful to consider especially considering what you are talking about having cross dominant eye and not realizing it in bowling (ie. being right handed with a left dominant or vise-versa, it's quite common).
@eric_howell
@eric_howell Ай бұрын
Nice video. I'm a 175 avg. And I miss too many spares. I bowl tonight. Hopefully I can put some of this in place.
@gearwhine787B
@gearwhine787B Ай бұрын
Great video man. I’ve been watching you for some time and you have fantastic content. I have learned to throw it straight and that is huge for me when shooting at 7 pins(lefty one handed) After watching this video I feel I will throw more spares straight! I need to practice more lol
@thomasboyd6242
@thomasboyd6242 Ай бұрын
I’ve been using the 3-6-9 system and it’s helped a lot except the 10 pin. I think it’s mental on it
@daverosinski3663
@daverosinski3663 10 күн бұрын
I hate 10 pins, but the 2-8 is my real nemesis. Thanks for showing the best way to pick up all of these.
@engineered_4u115
@engineered_4u115 Ай бұрын
Thank you Darren! I will definitely try this…
@leoec1
@leoec1 Ай бұрын
My balls always like to hook before it gets to a corner pin.. would straightening out my wrist on release help? I see other people going for corner pins with a lot of revs on the ball so idk what they are doing different to not have the ball hook at the end
@briandaniel9434
@briandaniel9434 Ай бұрын
Probably using a plastic ball for spares. That's what I do.
@gregoryNallison
@gregoryNallison 6 күн бұрын
Hey Darren, you journal while bowling as do I. You take notes and draw diagrams on plain white or lined paper ? Looking for a journal book designed for bowlers to keep notes. Any suggestions? Also like to see a video built around how journals can help those bowlers how could benefit from this process and routine. Thanks Greg Allison
@mustangmagik
@mustangmagik Ай бұрын
Great video! Gonna try to get the team to watch this one.
@480_royster
@480_royster Ай бұрын
need to watch this right before i play
@caleb8078
@caleb8078 Ай бұрын
Could you cover a video on shooting spares such as the 10 as a two hander as i feel like its more tricky? great video though and very insightful!!!
@brigham2250
@brigham2250 Ай бұрын
I'm a righty and have no problem with my spares except for the 10-pin. I stand about six inches back from the approach dots that are next to the ball return on board 35. I aim my spare ball right over 15 at the arrows. Bullseye... WHEN I hit my target. Too many times, and I don't know why I do it, I don't get my shoulders facing towards the 10 pin and while my eyes are looking at 15 my ball goes more down the middle of the lane because I didn't turn my body towards the pin. Now, somedays, I have no problem doing it right and I'm completely in sync with myself. Other days, I'm just not operating correctly, and my aim is really bad and my shoulders don't turn. I don't know why this happens. I can tell you what it feels like though. It is like when you have a dream and you're trying to turn but you just can't do it. If you know what I'm talking about, that is what it is like and I feel helpless when it hits me. I want to turn towards the pin, but I can't. Maybe it's in my head that I can't. I don't know. And again, other days... no problem picking up the 10-pin.
@msts3325
@msts3325 Ай бұрын
That's 20 boards from where you're starting to your target. That's a lot and probably why you pull the ball left. Do you finish in the same spot or do you sometimes drift right?
@brigham2250
@brigham2250 Ай бұрын
@@msts3325 - I start at 35 and move towards the right as I approach the foul line. It is a perfect trajectory/line to the ten pin. The problem is me and facing my shoulders in the correct direction. I'm inconsistent in my aim. Somedays I just about can't miss and somedays that's about all I can do. I notice when I don't think about it too much, I hit it more often. If I start talking to myself not to miss it and overthinking it, the result is usually a miss. The more I tell myself not to keep my shoulders straight with the lane, the more my shoulders don't want to turn. Weird how our minds work.
@vaeaeaeaentastic1641
@vaeaeaeaentastic1641 Ай бұрын
@@brigham2250 If everything is performed right, I don't have to direct my shoulders. They get directed automatically. First things come to my mind, which influence the direction of my shoulders: - bad angle of my pendulum: backswing to the left or right makes my shoulders trying to compensate for the wrong direction of the force automatically by turning left or right) - bad timing: early release makes me turn left to hopefully prevent a gutter. Late release makes me turning right, trying to avoid throwing too far to the left) Additionally: -bad angle + bad timing might end up in straight shoulders but wrong aim That being said: The more I fear the rightside gutter, the more my shoulders get locked to the left. But the source of the problem is not the fear. It's my pushaway. My pendulum is based more on the orientation of the boards, than on the direction of my approach. Maybe you unconsciously don't adjust the angle of your pushaway enough to match the trajectory of your approach. You could experiment with your pushaway by exaggerating the angle by a lot and observe how it changes, which way your shoulders face at release. If your pushaway doesn't lead to a straight pendulum, your shoulders will change their direction - unless your shoulder joints are really flexible (unlike mine). The more crooked the pendulum is, the harder it gets to perform consistently. Your body trying to maintain a stable stand on release, while forcing a crooked swing into a somewhat right direction, may lock your shoulders to a certain direction. And that could result in the dream like feeling you describe. On bad days it's either a lack of speed in my approach or pendulum. They don't match up. And when I concentrate on these issues, my shoulderpositioning and aiming gets better on its own.
@timblankemeyer9290
@timblankemeyer9290 Ай бұрын
What about a 2-4-5 or the bucket? I've had more success still going hard and straight on those. But is hooking it better?
@N8Som
@N8Som Ай бұрын
Is your 2handed spare system different than 1?
@edwh164
@edwh164 14 күн бұрын
Can you explain what you do with your hand to get the reactive ball to go straight?
@die7fox
@die7fox Ай бұрын
Great advice all around! I hook at the 2-8, too. I've never been able to pick it up going straight at it. Frankie Lavoie taught me to stand farther left (as a right-hander) to pick up the washout. I stand on 35 and roll the ball over 5th arrow. If I hit my mark on the lane, the head pin kicks out nicely and takes out the 10 while the ball takes care of the rest.
@ItsEcho_Official
@ItsEcho_Official Ай бұрын
0:36 wth is the guy in the back doing lol
@project1216
@project1216 Ай бұрын
swing drills forgot if its called that but its used for opening up the body when u swing
@XCRiders
@XCRiders Ай бұрын
Super important 👍🏼
@michaelprince1914
@michaelprince1914 Ай бұрын
Should’ve a plastic ball be better for straight up for picking up spares?
@remington1439
@remington1439 19 күн бұрын
17:03 dang brother’ great shot.
@73Harbor21
@73Harbor21 Ай бұрын
Thank you for these tips. 👍
@lonestarpatriot876
@lonestarpatriot876 Ай бұрын
I really struggle with spares. I believe it is because the mechanics of my release change when I shoot spares. I use the same system as shown in the video. If I leave a spare, it is a 10 pin 90% of the time. I am generally in the pocket. I call myself an "all or nothing" bowler. I can string strikes and bowl great games. I also can leave a lot of 10 pins, miss them, and bowl terrible games.
@XCRiders
@XCRiders Ай бұрын
Spares are of “sacred importance
@TheRealGamerJR
@TheRealGamerJR Ай бұрын
this is so helpful for a 12 year old bowler like me thank you darren!!
@BryxnLive
@BryxnLive Ай бұрын
All of you keep hating on tang. You do realize views drop every year until wintertime right.
@legit_midget6476
@legit_midget6476 Ай бұрын
What about the bucket, 2-4-5, or 2-4-8 for right handers?
@RLA1983
@RLA1983 Ай бұрын
would you throw plastic for spares, as a 2 finger no thumb bowler?
@okla289
@okla289 Ай бұрын
Hi darren can you teach us how to flatten the wrist to spare as a two hander? Its much harder, thanks
@dman7213
@dman7213 Ай бұрын
Wow gave your Dad props on spare shooting
@JayCeeEff786
@JayCeeEff786 Ай бұрын
I love you Darren (Your channel of course)
@thesprinklerguy2598
@thesprinklerguy2598 Ай бұрын
I bowled 4 games today and only got 1 spare.. 27 strikes though lmao. I just couldn't adjust for the dry lane as I'm still really new and not even a month in... appreciate the tips
@Jewlrunner
@Jewlrunner Ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks.
@mjheggie2
@mjheggie2 Ай бұрын
Great video, appreciated!!
@ThomasBrewer-k9u
@ThomasBrewer-k9u Ай бұрын
What type ball are you using and how is it drilled ?
@marcoschavez173
@marcoschavez173 Ай бұрын
Looks like an optimum idol pearl. Regardless of layout, his wrist is so flat that hes able to make the ball go as close to straight as humanly possible.
@srellessemaj
@srellessemaj 23 күн бұрын
@@marcoschavez173definitely NOT the Optimum Idol pearl. It’s just the original Optimum Idol
@aaronlakanen4041
@aaronlakanen4041 25 күн бұрын
Well done
@crissyrey404
@crissyrey404 29 күн бұрын
As a very green bowler; What do the numbers mean?? Can we have a novice breakdown video, thanks! 😊
@your_eulogy2688
@your_eulogy2688 Ай бұрын
Most popular pin to leave is the 10? I always leave the 7...what am I doing wrong? Or...what am I doing right? 😉
@lockedonlaw
@lockedonlaw Ай бұрын
It's easier to pick up double wood by hooking the ball. It's the one exception I make to your system.
@metrobandit69
@metrobandit69 Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5fTeJ6dnL-Zn7s He literally says to hook at double wood
@lockedonlaw
@lockedonlaw Ай бұрын
@@metrobandit69 At the 2-8. I also hook at the 3-6-9-10 or any other double wood. Darren did not. I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm saying I personally have more success hooking at double wood on either side.
@metrobandit69
@metrobandit69 Ай бұрын
@@lockedonlaw Gotcha, I have not heard of double wood being used for anything more than two pins lined up. I personally hook at the 3-6-9-10 as well
@michaelprince1914
@michaelprince1914 Ай бұрын
I like the fact that he admits that he’s not perfect.
@stragi
@stragi Ай бұрын
i keep missing all my spares, so i am watching this video.
@jairusnorville8348
@jairusnorville8348 15 күн бұрын
Thanls
@j6s0n
@j6s0n Ай бұрын
I wished I had watched this before I had gone to league.
@chrismarsden6633
@chrismarsden6633 Ай бұрын
Or you can do what I do and grab a plastic house ball and bowl it straight. Doesn't work on crazy splits but I'll take a ~90% spare rate all day
@manderspood350
@manderspood350 Ай бұрын
This helped a lot, thanks Darren!
@shytaq
@shytaq Ай бұрын
how do i not hit the ball return when im standing that far left
@631strongislandkid
@631strongislandkid Ай бұрын
What is the arm tape for?
@user-fc3vp5so1m
@user-fc3vp5so1m 8 күн бұрын
You got me confused. I'm a beginner so Am I supposed to count each. line?
@joecoppola3974
@joecoppola3974 17 күн бұрын
Thats my problem im good most of the time with any spare accept the corner ones and i realize especially the right corner spares sometimes i miss and throw it wide and goes up the middle instead and left shots i miss sometimes as well but thats my weak spot as a lefty but im not too bad with the left
@br4dy1998
@br4dy1998 Ай бұрын
my problem with the 10 pin is i cant consistently and accurately flatten out my hand so half the time at the last second it will have the tiniest hook and just skim past it
@br4dy1998
@br4dy1998 Ай бұрын
made this comment before u said anything about flattening your hand out
@SirGenesis206
@SirGenesis206 Ай бұрын
Working on the same issue
@penaej
@penaej Ай бұрын
2-4-5 straight. Hook at the bucket but that’s just me.
@ckcx918
@ckcx918 Ай бұрын
This just reconfirmed the need for a spare ball as a two hander lmao
@brandonsmith6460
@brandonsmith6460 Ай бұрын
8:06 my dad taught me the same bro.
@jazzscott4604
@jazzscott4604 Ай бұрын
I'm a 2 hander, and I don't see having a plastic ball as I'm losing a slot in my bag. Because I've learned to use it in extreme cases as a strike ball
@natrixxvision6997
@natrixxvision6997 8 күн бұрын
Interesting that you move CLOSER to the pin to shoot left side spares.
@timothybrooks5921
@timothybrooks5921 Ай бұрын
I'm more interested in how you are able to throw a reactive that straight.
@HungDinh-m4s
@HungDinh-m4s Ай бұрын
What about 2 handed bowlers?
@youngfleshlight5859
@youngfleshlight5859 Ай бұрын
He said get a plastic, watch the vid before commenting
@banwan22
@banwan22 Ай бұрын
Give the board stand to hit which arrow or board for which pin to hit pls!
@juanitawatson596
@juanitawatson596 Ай бұрын
What's that on your arm?
@kidgraz9139
@kidgraz9139 Ай бұрын
Was watching the lesson in the background lol
@KwonYoungForever
@KwonYoungForever Ай бұрын
I wanted to know what's the difference in overseas balls? Example: attention star vs attention spot
@BillyDaGoat1017
@BillyDaGoat1017 Ай бұрын
Averaging 198…because I’m inconsistent with 10s
@nxthao08
@nxthao08 Ай бұрын
Forget spares, what's the pole the guy behind you is using! I need one to stretch!
@Sproutt
@Sproutt Ай бұрын
Im for sure that Paralax guy sometimes ha 😅
@skinniestjeans
@skinniestjeans Ай бұрын
Bro shooting a video with Alex Gurkov in the background
@JusticeExplorer
@JusticeExplorer Ай бұрын
Used the spare system you've used for 2 years and for some reason it never worked, switched to only looking straight at the pin and almost doubled my single pin conversion ;-; Idk whats wrong with me
@richday8934
@richday8934 Ай бұрын
Right
@drsudz
@drsudz Ай бұрын
Are you going to make Black Oak this year?? *fingers crossed*
@rcrichman6066
@rcrichman6066 13 күн бұрын
What if whole game is either strike or split?
@josephchevarria1644
@josephchevarria1644 23 күн бұрын
What about the 7 10?
@mikedurham3563
@mikedurham3563 Ай бұрын
I did the opposite. I stand in the same spot and vary the target depending on the pin. Similar concept, the 10 pin is the 4th arrow and the 7 pin is the 6th arrow. I actually started by wanting my 10 pin over the 4th arrow and finding where to stand. Key is to get a consistent approach.
@bruinsrulz
@bruinsrulz Ай бұрын
I heard you should line up the pin, make an imaginary line through the middle arrow and throw the ball through that line.
@timothytan2018
@timothytan2018 Ай бұрын
My problem is I don't know what my wrist is gonna do. I could be aiming for my 10 pin, standing around 35, and my wrist decides it wants to go straight and goes the complete wrong direction
@poltergeistskateteam
@poltergeistskateteam Ай бұрын
If that's the case you might have to think about changing to a ball weight you can properly control.
@phlllbthh
@phlllbthh Ай бұрын
I always do better with my spares when I lift free weights. Low weight (15lb) with high reps (40). It can also help strengthen your wrists. Another exercise would be taking a dowel rod with a cord attached and some sort of weight. You twist the rod until the cord is completely wrapped around it. That can make a huge difference. Good luck!
@jasonrichlin
@jasonrichlin Ай бұрын
i used to bowl in special olimpics but i am to old now i am mentally challanged but i love to bowl and i bowl with a hook
@rishiaman2288
@rishiaman2288 15 күн бұрын
0:37 uk he is a retired goat if he does this (guy in the back)
@rcajun91405
@rcajun91405 14 күн бұрын
When are they gonna do videos for left handed bowlers, even though we are a rarity, we still might need some help now and again????
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