If You Run Board Wipes You're A Big Meanie Butt || EDH Jank Center Podcast || Episode 5

[@zackkelley2940]

Avacyn the Purifier IS, in point of fact BOROS. The backside is red indicated by the red symbol on the type line. You CAN use him for your mono-red Innistrad idea.

[@Bahamut-ie3tk]

Doesn't both sides of the card count towards color identify?

[@zackkelley2940]

@@Bahamut-ie3tk Yes.

[@edhjankcenter]

we love to see it!

[@TeaAddict1]

Oh btw if a commander has a different coloured backside you count the backside for its colours! Go build the annoying avacyn deck.

[@edhjankcenter]

LFGGGGGGGG

[@lso5013]

Awww… Skrelv being a little guy, just like Dr. Short King Prairies 🥹

[@edhjankcenter]

we share a kinship, skrelv and i

[@lso5013]

@@edhjankcenter Let’s goooo ✊🏾 little guys uniteee 🥹

[@zackkelley2940]

There are 43 cats in rakdos colors. Most of them are.... not great. Best bet for Rakdos cats would be Mahadi with a sac/discard theme and a side of Chandra Planeswalkers (see Chandra's Embercat). Also, if you run Urborg Panther, Feral Shadow, Breathstealer, and Spirit of the Night should REALLY be in there too. For legendary cats in rakdos colors, there is also Falthis, Shadowcat Familiar and Mirri the Cursed.

[@CD-sl7ld]

if I run tutors then I run usually 2 board wipes. if no tutors then I run about 3 with atleast 6 targeted removal.

[@edhjankcenter]

ooooooo nice nice. that's a bit too much for my taste I think but I might also be running too little lol who knows

[@CD-sl7ld]

@@edhjankcenter my main colours are green black and blue. Removal and board control is my thing.

[@W4llh4k]

hey, dunno if im late, but from crimson vow commander there's laurine the diversion. And commander legends Alena. maybe even the alana/alena cards, gruul, aggresive, and give counters.

[@edhjankcenter]

ur not late and we appreciate the comment!

[@W4llh4k]

@@edhjankcenter love to help. Also I'm a lvl1 jdg, and a scryfall nerd. So hit me up about rulings, difficult search queries, or to just nerd about cards randomly assigned lore.

[@zackkelley2940]

I don't know about that.... If you have SEVEN mana open I don't think ANYONE is going to think 'you have nothing'.^^ Still great for the potentially instant speed though.

[@edhjankcenter]

hundred percent!

[@Bahamut-ie3tk]

My friends run 10-15 board wipes in their decks and me and 1 other friend tend to only run 2-4 board wipes in our decks

[@edhjankcenter]

10-15 is WILD lmao

[@zackkelley2940]

Wasitora, Nekoru Queen is the cat dragon.

[@zackkelley2940]

Blood Mist is ok but why not give ALL your creatures double strike? Berserker's Onslaught will give all your attacking creatures double strike. Rage Reflection will give all your creatures double strike ALL the time (and can be had for as low as $.70).

[@edhjankcenter]

we can cover that in another episode because that is awesome too!

[@TeaAddict1]

44 cats than can be legally ran in a rakdos commander deck.

[@edhjankcenter]

cres will be so happy lmao

[@jcstaff1007]

30:11 I objectively think this is no longer correct. Games are so fast, decks are so optimized, and cards are so overloaded that trading 1 for 1 on spot removal is just bad. There’s times where it’s necessary, but now I think assymetrical wipes are the truth. Playing against Voja, spot removal is basically useless as the elfball Voja player gets so far ahead, deals tons of dmg and then popping any piece, including Voja, just sets yourself so far behind it’s not worth it. 4+ mana to spot remove a creature is essentially taking a turn off. Even playing against other decks, 1 for 1 isn’t enough anymore. Unless your engine is just stronger than theirs, board wipes, especially efficient or one sided ones, are the way.

[@edhjankcenter]

right and I think the point we’re making is that (depending on playgroup and meta dynamics), we’d rather be running more 1 for 1 removal rather than a ton of board wipes. the reasoning being id rather watch my friend go off with Voja and maybe lose the game as a result rather than never let them go off at all

[@edhjankcenter]

but, your point is super valid!

[@jcstaff1007]

@@edhjankcenter 100% agreed with u up until about last year, in my personal play group my friends ran so many wipes it was absurd. Garuanteed there would be 3-4 wipes per game and the games would last 2hrs + so I took all of my wipes out and just put cards that survived theirs as a meta call. Now, both with me playing more on my own and the philosophy of wizards appearing to trend towards more power crept cards, i've done a 180 and swapped most spot removal for those cheap/1 sided wipes where possible. but either way i agree with you, for the sake of time I 100% would rather the game end than everyone dredge through long turns of rebuilding.

[@equivocat]

Being a combo player, board wipes and stax are necessary to buy time, and are usually asymmetric since my board states are minimal. Spot removal drops off in efficiency (for both cost and card advantage), so spending 1 or 2 more mana for a board wipe is better. I’ll run my 8+ board wipes happily.

[@edhjankcenter]

8+ !!! yeah I totally get where you're coming from