Sounds Like Nintendo Is Being Smart with Switch 2 - Next-Gen Console Watch

Welcome back to Next-Gen Console Watch. This week Daemon is joined by IGN's Xbox podcast host, Ryan McCaffrey, and Podcast Beyond's Max Scoville to talk Nintendo Switch 2 rumors. Leaks from manufacturers have provided more details on what updates Nintendo's Switch 2 could have over the original. The leaks suggest magnetic joy-con, longer battery life, a larger and higher-resolution screen, and 4K output in docked mode. Plus, we go over last week's poll, and have a new poll for you to vote on at IGN.com.
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[@CliffjumperLP]

It has to be named "Super Nintendo Switch"

[@user-ce1nf1fx2z]

Or Air, as in breath of the wild.

[@css1323]

@@user-ce1nf1fx2zSwitch of the Wild?

[@AuraXp_]

Nah that’s actually genius 😮‍💨🔥

[@PAUL-MH]

It has to be named nothing because nintendo have not announced anything!

[@Nrbstssecondchannel]

Fr

[@Ghost360MAFIA]

Backward compatibility with PHYSICAL carts is what’s most important to me.

[@Diversity_Culture]

Mostly likely not but maybe with dlc

[@mr-gamer-1411]

Why is it so important , it’s not like the original switch will stop working when switch 2 is released

[@bruhmiauw]

​@@mr-gamer-1411 better performance!

[@antoniog6293]

​@@mr-gamer-1411PS5 and XS have retrocompatibility , that enhances the performance of the exclusives and other third party games. If you have to buy a remaster for the next console instead of upgrading the game you already have, then it's no worth It.

[@CMONCMON007]

Nintendo has always had a history of physical backwards compatibility in its consoles even placing ports for previous hardware controllers e.g: the Wii for Gamecube controllers. Like the Gameboy Advance you could stick in original Gameboy cartridges and then it played

[@josea.martinez2234]

All we want is a powerful switch with modern technology we dont want a new invention. Everyone loves the original switch we just want it to be more powerful.

[@iRichie619]

Agreed. So all the new releases don't have to either downgrade the graphics, or wait longer times for the switch release

[@rawchet]

nothing like playing pokemon in 1080p 15fps

[@toomastom3827]

You speak of behalf of everyone....? You seem pretty sure you know everybody mindset on this one, how cute! 🤭😬😬😬

[@justadummy8076]

@@rawchetoh please, we all know Pokémon isn’t reaching 1080p let alone 15fps

[@UltimateFlynn]

Amen, just want to be able to use the switch with my 4k TV without it looking blurry. Hopefully it has full DLSS 3 support

[@emeraldknight347]

Making the the Switch 2 backwards complatable is a great way to combat piracy. This would allow them to still get revenue from their OG Switch titles, creating a smooth transition to the next generation console.

[@CerealMilkDVD]

Backward compatibility should always be the first thing when building a new console

[@toomastom3827]

You mean....like Switch was? 😬😬😬😬🤭🤭🤭🤭

[@user-in8qh3zf9d]

No one uses backwards compatibility

[@CerealMilkDVD]

@@toomastom3827 I'm referring to how every company should be putting that first when they build new consoles but we all know that's not what they put first

[@CerealMilkDVD]

@@user-in8qh3zf9d they would if every console had it ,so they settle for the digital copies of old games that companies re sell us ,hence why Nintendo launched its online services to allow us to play old games

[@JokerP5]

@@CerealMilkDVD always having backwards compatibility is gonna be very hard, especially in nintendo’s case. Mediums to store games on always change and needs newer technology to read. Its easier for like xbox or ps tho

[@Akria1999]

Backwards compatibility, 60+ FPS on every game & achievements for games are what’s most important to me.

[@iROHxo]

Shows like this should happen much more often on IGN, this type of content is what made IGN what it is today. You guys are OGs, I'd rather listen to you than to some other hosts.

[@AnEnglishGentleman]

Amen.

[@JessNapier]

This!

[@titanskrall7234]

I'd rather listen to them than ANY of the other hosts.

[@Junsss69]

Backwards compatibility on any console is not a feature, should be a given.

[@mmTicoInc]

Who cares about magnetic joycons. Fix the joycon drift is all they had to do.

[@shawnschaitel838]

Won't happen they made millions selling defective joy cons

[@jelanidacostabest8195]

Other reports state that they have

[@blahdelablah]

Fixing the Joycon drift is easy, they just need to use Hall effect sensors.

[@stuartmatthews91]

This should be an easy home run for Nintendo. Hall effect sticks. New wifi/Bluetooth hardware. 4k out dock, even if upscaled. Full backward compatibility with switch games. Even if its just digital. A little better than steamdeck specs. The rest doesn't really matter.

[@alangreenway6695]

‘The Switch revolutionised gaming’. Like Nintendo causes on a regular basis- D Pad, Motion control, Avatars, etc….

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

Rumble, dual screen, touch screen, analog stick, shoulder buttons...

[@Mrconfidentvrc]

Basically this is XXL switch, got it.

[@Hazeman.]

But with new architecture, new customised SOC, new technologies likes DLSS etc

[@NightFlyStudio]

What is this man Ryan on about? Nintendo has been champions of backwards compatibility for a while. GB>>GBC>>GBA>>DS>>3DS each were backwards compatible with the previous hardware. Consoles have a much worse history with Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U being the outliers. This notion of selling the same games to you "over and over" seems to be more of an issue with virtual console games which won't be an issue as I'm sure NSO's game library will transfer over to Switch 2.

[@BarelyAverageDude]

Maybe the new joycons have Hall effect sticks; which use magnets, and somewhere down the line that got confused as electromagnetic attachment somehow. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Because Hall effect sticks would solve the drift issue

[@igcreates2760]

Why isn't there a Nintendo splash screen at the beginning?

[@lightspeedbear]

Important to note that Nintendo have been offering backwards compatibility for a while now. GBA could play GB. Wii could play Gamecube. Wii U could play Wii. 3DS could play DS etc

[@Fate862]

Doesn't really mean a damn thing when they can only go back one generation...wow just one gen of backwards compatibility. The newer switch will only play switch games as it compatibility meaning so little...can't play any past gen titles then its nothing of interest as it should be playing switch games by default as this will just be a more powerful switch that's all.

[@user-ix3ev8ti4r]

Switch could play...?

[@mkjjoe]

@@Fate862 The Switch also marks the start of Nintendo officially investing in users' online accounts, as per their repeated business plan and investment in NSO. Backwards compatibility now favors the idea that they value a long lasting library. For old games on Switch, we've seen them drip-fed into NSO or as full-on remasters/remakes with a lot left to bring over.

[@t_0827]

Just bring a new Zelda like Links Awakening....

[@awshnap]

Yeah probably a LttP remake

[@jon-h]

​@@awshnap A ALttP or ALbW Remake would make me instantly buy Switch 2.

[@ahmedhajjobeid955]

Agreed bring back og Zelda

[@Mr.Chimpazee]

⁠@@ahmedhajjobeid955 Old Zelda game already dead long time ago

[@sourgummyworms45]

​@@Mr.Chimpazee sure..

[@Vartazian360]

How about let's just focus on 1080p in a hand held before we waste battery on 4k nonsense. The switch is often 540p and many games run like crap even at that low res. 4k on a tiny screen is just wasting resources. Focus on 1080p handheld, 1440p / upscaled 4k on TV output.

[@Elchinodawn]

​@@gd7022on tv yes, but on hanheld mode is a waste, that's what he meant

[@Leonard2311]

@@gd7022 4K is not the "standard" yes its been accepted by the masses but majority of the masses is still happy on 1080p

[@pokemigas6049]

The handheld mode is 1080p, it was stated in the video. Where did you get the 4K from?

[@DonutTPOTer]

​@@gd70221440p is the true standard RN

[@Vartazian360]

@@pokemigas6049 in the beginning of the video where he says the switch 2 will have 4k output

[@Noir1984]

Cannot wait. Aesthetics wise also switch still looks sleek at the end of its life. Hope the form factor is just as nice looking.

[@bluiii]

“Are we excited” lmao sums it up

[@zevil89]

If this isnt at least at par with the current Steam Deck, it will be problematic. When the original Switch was released it didnt have to compete with any Windows handheld. People have been commenting how Switch games barely go on sale unlike in Steam

[@jeremy4ags]

Plz just play it safe. The switch is the final form of gaming handhelds

[@yuncloudfgc]

All they have to do forreal is let the dock be an external gpu for horsepower, so it can play the same AAA games of the same Quality of other consoles. Also make it so give it the usb port a Display port action for us. Monitor compatibility

[@gamer-san8923]

Nintendo playing safe while they DMCA every person named Mario.

[@SouljahUK]

😂

[@benpxyt]

Yuzu*

[@Jeymez]

if your trying to make money off their content, they have the right to slap you.

[@lluucasiscool]

@@Jeymez content creators...?

[@GamesHostelry]

​@@Jeymezagreed

[@richmlvcable]

what would be required of the hardware and Dock to output in 4k to TV tho? that seems like a stretch

[@sumantgangannavar9680]

This podcast has become a weekly cozy upload to chill with😌

[@CMONCMON007]

What's Ryan talking about? Nintendo was the only console doing backward compatibility for a long time. Gameboy Advance was backwards compatible with Gameboy games. DS was backwards compatible with GBA games. 3DS was backwards compatible with DS games. Wii was backwards compatible with Gamecube games. Wii U was backwards compatible with Wii games...has he forgotten that? Lol Ryan being a Microsoft fanboy thinking Xbox were pioneers in it😅😅😅

[@V3ntilator]

To be fair, Microsoft is the only ones with backwards compatibility all the way and everything will work on next console too.

[@DragunBreath]

He was likely referring to Nintendo's practice of their non-portable systems not being backwards compatible with each other. The Wii was the first Nintendo home console to be backwards compatible with games from the previous system, followed by the Wii U. On the portable side of things, they did things different. GB->GBC->GBA->DS->3DS, each was compatible with the system before it, and in the GBA's case, two systems before it.

[@DJordydj]

Backwards compatibility doesn't count if you only do it with the previous console. XBOX does it with games from ALL previous consoles. PS3 was compatible with PSONE and PS2 games back in the day and with PS4 it all went bleh... and PSN now has roms abailable to buy, but you can't even use your own old discs so it doesn'0t fully count as well... If you're working on backwards compatibilty, you must do it right, with all your previous consoles in mind, or maybe just getting a PC and emulating games, because that works flawlessly and it's the only way to preserve and play nice the Nintendo games.

[@brandogg]

@@DJordydj Microsoft doesn't do it with all games though, in fact it's pretty limited. And yes, backwards compatibility does count if you only do it with the previous console, that's exactly what it means.

[@evermillcreek]

A lot of it is circumstantial based on the hardware diversification and remaster potential with Nintendo prioritising unique gameplay experiences. That being said, they are a business and entitled to monetise their content as they see fit. No one's got a gun to our heads to sell our old devices. Plus, they did pave the way as has been mentioned.

[@UnchartedNL]

Nintendo has always been great with backwards compatibility. The Wii could play Gamecube games, the Wii U could play Wii games and Nintendo DS, could play ALL the previous gameboy games.

[@Bav92]

And yet I’ll never have the joy of playing Windwaker. Sigh.

[@CursedCommentaries]

Ds could not play gameboy games

[@franck4727]

​@@CursedCommentariesYeah, he probably meant the DS could play gameboy advance game

[@chrisboucher2813]

It would cool if they put an external graphics card in the dock so we can really push the performance and quality when playing on the tv

[@bennettnez4711]

Yeah, they used to do stuff like that with old cartridge games. Like star fox had a chip in it that made the game more advanced, the 64 had the expansion packs for a couple games. Anything like that. Keep the hybrid, but make playing docked more worth jt for me

[@Makotosaber]

Backwards compatibility is the most important thing to me

[@SuperSeancon]

If the battery is better and backwards compatibility is the only upgrade then that alone is a success

[@MrFathead]

Backwards compatibility is not optional, and the joycons need to be better quality. The magnet attachment would be nice to prevent damage on the rails.

[@versusforward]

Who's making the APU? AMD? Or are the doing another arm/nvidia custom job? Or will it be Snapdragon based (lol)?

[@Polengue]

arm/nvidia for sure

[@Moori2163]

If it's backwards compatible day 1 for me if it isn't might pick 1 up a few years after release or not bother.

[@SidneyRJames]

I'm in the same boat.

[@aaronTGP_3756]

For me, it would depend on the new titles.

[@Fate862]

Its just basically an upgraded switch so yes it will be "backwards compatible" if you should even call it that when all it is, is an upgraded switch. Better joycons, better resolution, more power. Nothing warrants it not being able to play switch games. Its still crap since it can't play my gamecube, wii, and all past console games because that would make it a real backwards compatible device. Nintendo will never do that. Most you get is just "you can still play switch games on this better switch".

[@joesackbaron]

They need to work out a way to get the dock to properly boost the spec independantly from the handheld, which should be left relatively low power for battery life and the small screen. Even if they charge seperately for a spec boosting dock, that's fine. Must be a way. The previous dock was mainly just useless lump of plastic that a cheap adapter could better.

[@M7ner08]

They might put another chip in the dock.

[@Ian-ky5hf]

You don’t have a Nintendo exclusive podcast?

[@Joe-bs6hd]

So... can we play pokemon that's hopefully not in 5 fps?

[@marcwells942]

Honestly, they need to update the joysticks to be able to handle minute movements just like the PS5 or Xbox

[@ejakaegypt]

They’re gonna name it “New Nintendo Switch “

[@PhocusSMF]

Will the electro magnetic hold and lock tho?

[@iStillHaveAVCR]

i’m guessing it will be interlocking, like a puzzle but with the magnets it should hold and be sturdy until you intentionally remove it.

[@jeremyjmusic]

Episode is about the Switch 2, let’s not get anyone from NVC on though 🙄

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

Yeah...no one from NVC is here. Weird. Lol

[@zmman9243]

BUT WILL IT BE A BIGGER OLED SCREEN?

[@gfan003]

Ture. Looking forward to swith 2. Hoping the joy con Don't drift.

[@undyingforce]

No one from NVC? Missed opportunity.

[@georged7627]

Backwards compatibility is a must so I’d say much more powerful hardware

[@Oilerfan5]

To me Price is all that matters, 3.5 years later and I’m still trying to afford the PS5 upgrade. Switch 2 needs to be the same 400 buck mark if not less.

[@redfoxbennaton]

It should be overpriced like every other product Nintendo makes

[@barcster2003]

I'm pretty sure its going to be 399.99

[@DavideNastri]

​@@redfoxbennatonNintendo traditionally costs less than competitors.

[@conchobar]

You struggling to afford a PS5 upgrade for $400, but a $400 Switch 2 is cool? C'mon Son!!!

[@mathlfr]

If it is retro compatible and can upscale and has hdr/dolby vision i'll be happy.

[@galacticwarlock2271]

Nintendo only pushes 1080 upscaled is just fine. That means processing power doesn't need to be monstrous.

[@assassinAKAcedarfeather]

And he didn’t even dive into the possibility of next gen Switch upgrade patches for current switch games

[@michaellarkin125]

not only an 8 in screen there should be an oled option as well. hopefully

[@x-ogaiht6300]

Definitely in 2 years after milking the sales with the LCD version first...

[@cedrikthibert7033]

It shoule be oled on release.

[@ThattfooRichie]

I’m kinda wanting 1080p and a larger screen more than anything that would be so cool to travel with since I’m never at home to play the PlayStation

[@TimedRelease]

Hopefully there's no issue having magnets near the screen

[@Isthatchicken01]

How often do you have magnets near any screen of any device you already own on a normal basis?

[@harrymason2558]

1080p oled handheld mode with faster load times and less laggy with backwards compatible digital and physical is all we need lol

[@M7ner08]

Exactly

[@M7ner08]

We will not get OLED tho. It’s Lcd

[@nickalexander4503]

Is the screen oled?

[@VTPhantos]

it would just be nice if it is backward compatible, that it would mean that it can use the switch 1 carts, and not just backwards compatibility is just for digital only games.

[@richardarana4104]

4K on TV, 60 FPS, and backwards compatibility on our beloved Nintendo titles would be just perfect. Also Super Nintendo Switch just has a nice rhyme to it 😁

[@Vantoxify]

hey this guy was part of the sonic hate discussion in 2016

[@kenb6521]

That extra inch goes such a long way.... -_-

[@craigsmith1812]

I’ve spent $1000 plus on games and accessories on the switch so I’d hope the next gen is backwards compatible

[@igosduikana3537]

Nobody is talking about how IF the joycon don't clic* like they do when you snap them on... The new magnetic system needs to make a similar snap if they REALLY wanna be congruent still calling it a SWITCH.

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

In my workplace we have electromagnetic devices, and they turn on by simply turning a dial. You could do it with a click or snap with the Joycons if you just have to pass a trigger or button to attach them, said button turning on the magnet.

[@igosduikana3537]

@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 that would be so sick! little details like that elevate the tangibility of the switch and separate it from regular similar consoles

[@waalex11]

There's leaks and info? Damn.

[@cletomcheese3041]

Bring back the GameCube

[@Sorcerers_Apprentice_11]

@8:47 Honestly the only thing that matters if they’re just upgrading the Switch.

[@mr.nitrogen239]

The Dune reference was fire.

[@Hazeman.]

Just you all think a little bit what 8 years gap of mobile technologies can do !!! Look at smartphone, every year upgrade SOC. Current Switch SOC are from 2015 !

[@aichaamara392]

When IGN comments about this stuff it’s gets SPICY

[@LOVER_LINK]

nvidia dlss being exclusive for the swithc 2 is a make it or break it feature.

[@charlesjimenez341]

A whole extra inch is crazy

[@YouB3anz]

why not have someone from NVC on

[@zeldakasumi]

If they use electromagnetic suction strong enough to hold the joy-cons on, would it be safe for people with pacemakers? 🤔

[@robinthebest5278]

For me most important is at least 60fps with great graphics and 1080p display

[@VGU227]

What do you think of switch 2 third party games, will it be so many or more like switch 1?

[@misterlexx2721]

Yes. Nintendo has lots of 3rd party. EA, WB, Konami, etc.

[@doddynuryanto3800]

Of course, since Nintendo already signing 10 years deal with Microsoft to release Call of duty in the same day with another platform which in my opinion it will make another 3rd party publisher confident to release their game in switch 2

[@VGU227]

@@doddynuryanto3800 wow nice news

[@barcster2003]

The tech will allow for alot more releases particularly since alot of the companies still produce on PS4.

[@wonderfulfable]

Nintendo: “The test is simple, remove your hand from the box, and you die. “ Accessories Execs: “Whats in the box? “ Nintendo: ~ P A I N ~

[@highwind1369]

Nintendo consoles have a mixed record on backwards compatibility. Like they've often had some kind of device to bring previous gens into current gen. But their handheld devices have always fully supported the previous gen. With the switch specifically, how much are they going to change the shape of their carts?

[@ansyp5713]

What amaze me is how you all speak about something that Nintendo never announced for almost 10 years. Thats crazy!

[@zachwhitehorn7926]

After seeing the entire gaming industry go out of their way to imitate the versatility of the switch, it would be very foolish to piss in that cereal.

[@roninnder]

With my reading glasses these days I’m going to assume diminishing returns on a handheld screen with 4k resolution

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

It would be really cool if the Switch 2 is backwards compatible, to let the old Switch games finally shine, and getting resolution upscaling and framerate boosts. That would be a dream. Also, those analog sticks need to be redone from the ground. Make the Joycons thicker/deeper, with actual analog sticks like you'd have on a PlayStation or Xbox controller, and obviously without drift issues.

[@marvso3298]

Daemon no comment about helldivers 2 player count dropping? Why only comment about it when it's an Xbox game?

[@itsdeonlol]

The Switch 2 will not be as powerful as we think...

[@Adam-fz6sj]

It's going to use DLSS to look better but run slower.

[@parazels83]

At least we can expect decent updates for Switch 1 games. Imagine Zelda at 60 fps!

[@RvEllorquez]

​@@parazels83 Its funny because the current switch can play zelda totk in 60 fps. Lol

[@gustavosuarez3096]

Electro-magnetic? It sounds like it will not have a long battery life.

[@Dycemusiqofficial]

It’s gonna be called “Switch XL”

[@Gameaddict2o9]

Dang these guys has been with ign for the longest. Sheesh.

[@rodneyrodriguezsoberal5522]

drift will never be completely gone. but there can be improvements

[@eeskaatt]

it's kinda weird this show mostly focuses on ps and xbox and then just threw in some nintendo discussion from time to time. their intro, transition assets are just mainly blue and green lol

[@kkl5630]

We definitely need more mature rated games since the switch 2 will be more powerful

[@davidwhatsthatabout7404]

Every Nintendo console with the exception of the SNES had some gimmick that competing system didn’t have. N64 had 4 controller ports, GameCube literally had the ability to be carried around, Wii offered motion controls, Wii U had tablet integration, Switch could be handheld and stationary. I’m excited to see how the next Nintendo console innovates itself, if the next console is just a more powerful Switch I’ll be a little disappointed

[@Dumbestintheclass]

Super Nintendo switch 🤷‍♂️ doesn’t make sense to start a new era revolution when clearly the market is fine / just wants a crystal clear, “Switch 2” their going to treat this console like how NES to SNES was , trust me .

[@davidwhatsthatabout7404]

@@Dumbestintheclass you dont know anything. It’s baffling embarrassing of how little you know.

[@meldonik]

If every game will have stable 30/60 fps then it would be enough improvement for me.

[@ChubetZ]

Im thinking of a graphic memory expansion dock so every actual switch would upgrade and of course you can sell it with an oled switch

[@marcelo.4139]

1080p because that means better internal hardware:3

[@WhosKIDA]

make the dock an external gpu🗣

[@sazzyguy2419]

Is it confirmed that it’s a new switch and not a standard home console

[@MrVideoGameDude]

Honestly switch has become my favourite console of all time / renewed my love for Nintendo. It would take a lot for me not to get Switch 2 day 1. I'm all in - super looking forward to it lol

[@dannydorito4675]

Mine too. How smooth it goes from handheld to dock and one to two players. Everything is so smooth and well thought.

[@TrumanJPray]

Hopefully 1440 p 60 FPS I’ll die happy for all those people complaining that it’s not gonna have horsepower. They should probably not be playing Nintendo. That’s not what Nintendo is about.

[@officialserenityzen]

New Nintendo Switch XL Deluxe & Knuckles

[@Thoushaltplaymore]

8inch with no bezel would be beautiful

[@grimmako4879]

Imagine having a external disc tray to play GameCube games or have hook ups to play and 64 games

[@josephcarr1482]

Can't wait for nintendo 10 gen console so hyped for it

[@farazsworkshop]

Super Nintendo Switch does make a lot of sense.

[@dakotawinston7677]

Is that a 72 Seasons shirt?