Subaru destroys 'real 4wds' in mud pit

Took my 3" lifted forester out to play in some mud with some other 4wds. We noticed pretty quickly how capable the Subaru was compared to the other 4wds in the mud...
For those interested...
My Set-up: 2003 Subaru Forester XS
2.5L N/A with Duel Range Trans
2.5" front/3" rear Subieliftoz lift kit
Swaybars removed
Kumho Road Ventura MT KL71 tyres 215/75r15
Diff breathers
Retrofitted pajero snorkle
LSD rear diff
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[@pacs686]

Who else came here after the Subaru on the hill video

[@BlindDevilNeko]

He continues his journey to work.

[@PrimusInvictus]

@@BlindDevilNeko he's still searching for the steep hill everyone was talking about

[@suryoardi7109]

Lol... Me

[@reeree9405]

Yep

[@thehurts9216]

Hahaha same

[@esmeraldariosventura1310]

As a Subaru driver, there are some things cars should not be able to do that I've managed to put my Subaru through, and the fact that the car remains running so beautifully after everything, is why I fell in love with Subaru.

[@rossfromfriends8468]

Subaru is the first and last car brand I will ever buy. I've only owned two and I may never buy a third because I'm confident my 2018 will last me till I'm an old man

[@rogerrabbito4517]

Shut up, Karen.

[@reznet2]

Ditto 😂

[@BeeRoyLee]

Same. Miss my 2.2 MT outback Impreza.

[@spedracer55]

THIS

[@michaelgabrielgarcia1004]

Truck guys: "Oh, you're gonna try it?" Subaru: "One second mate" *engages cruise control and sips tea vigorously*

[@JayJay-gl2df]

He may be sipping his tea but he's still got through

[@dawnfallon6812]

pinky finger elevated.

[@Guillo78]

Subs are not British do...

[@superschnitzels5619]

Bruh. It’s in Australia for a start and subies are Japan made.

[@Cloudburst7]

The tea siping is very important

[@jasonscalzo9597]

I love how it’s just sitting there, lurking, waiting for its moment

[@kimdonnelly]

same haha just like 😌☕️

[@therivergod849]

lol

[@lc9072]

I'm noticing a pattern here with stock 90s subarus thrashing everyone at offroad sports

[@sethrhow4814]

Good AWD, decent power, and most importantly, a fraction of the weight.

[@questioneverything3332]

This Subaru wasn't from the 90's

[@devincoulter2417]

most Subaru's are good for off-roading the engines are built tough, almost every subaru owner i know their subaru has over 300 thousand miles on it and it still runs like brand-new

[@CB-ou4hi]

Impreza all the way! Best 6 weeks of my life owning that thing was - but I couldn't afford the fuel or the insurance at 21 ... Great days ...

[@skeletonexploder]

Oh, so you also came from that video?

[@joeanonimous1105]

Four-wheel drive: An amazing technological innovation that enables one to get stuck in much more remote places.

[@emilezoulette882]

hahahahahaha

[@jgzero18]

🤣🤣

[@Sam-qr9su]

Nice one joe

[@jogower2105]

Yes 4x4 gets you farther from help

[@joeanonimous1105]

@@jogower2105 - I also like the 4x4 Bumper Stickers that are printed upside-down that say: "If you can read this, please flip me over."

[@TickyTack23]

"Imma get a lift kit, and a snorkel, and we gonna go muddin." "How ya gonna lock the diff?" "Wuts a diff?"

[@lucas-hb1se]

for real i bet this already happend into so workshops or something😂😂

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Hehehe 👍😁

[@lopwidth7343]

I don't believe this many people on the trail are that oblivious. They do it for "the challenge" but fails to realize the subaru is just built with a much better lsd in the first place

[@tranxvillanueva1092]

all subarus is all wheel drive right? cause im planning to get an subaru legacy for college as a first car and make an rally build with it

[@lopwidth7343]

@@tranxvillanueva1092 a legacy is not in any way rally spec? Its a luxury sedan? Wtf are you on about

[@rotagbhd]

A long time ago I was with a friend in his Toyota pickup with thousands of dollars invested in it, suspesion, the big tires, etc, he was so proud and then we went to the mud and he instantly got stuck and was making up excuses about how difficult it would be for anything to get through etc., then along comes a coworker of ours in this piece of junk stock Geo Tracker and he went through the same spot with zero problems. It was hysterical to see the faces of all the big 4x4 owners that got stuck after this Geo strolled right through lol

[@tictactoe325]

rotag_bhd reminds me of my Suzuki Drover. Dad’s Pajero took one look at the very wet and muddy paddock and went nup not doing that! My Drover loaded up with 4 large bales of lucern hay, 30kg bag of pollard, same for a bag of bran, 25kg bag of oaten chaff and same again with lucern just strolled through the boggy wet paddock like it was a Sunday drive.

[@KClife9TV]

Its not as wide as the big trucks. That helps out alot

[@reenachauriya4931]

@@KClife9TV so trucks should have longer and narrower bodies then because the results are much better.

[@gsp49]

Right, the very lightweight do not sink deep, my CRX Honda used to go places Jeeps couldn't get to.

[@twagoner21]

bigger and more power is always better cus merica. don't overthink it. herk.

[@jasonmedina7058]

This should be a Subaru commercial.

[@fradee2830]

It is a Subaru commercial... disguised.

[@AB-nv7bz]

It should be a 4wd parts store commercial. If any of those trucks got locking diffs, they wouldn't get stuck. Subaru AWD is legit, but these people don't even have locking center diffs. It makes 4wd worthless, it just doubles the chances to find a spinning tire.

[@jamesmuhuhu7987]

Subaru owner: Deng it not this again... Can't a guy just make a run to the store without bumbing into these off road failures

[@cocacolagrl100]

I told my boyfriend one day I was looking for a spot to take my forester for some light off roading. He said to me “you have a forester not a Jeep” I hope to show him this video soon. I love my XT

[@chugnorris7091]

Time to get a man, and drop your boy.

[@yd1984]

Lol forester ... XT beast

[@taber1975]

Lol drop him and come to maine ill show you some spots

[@Jdicjsbciendufieb]

@@taber1975 alright calm down bud.

[@taber1975]

@Dead Signal You have sex without meth and crack? Lmao bro calm down Maine is a bunch of white ole ladies and hicks who like to play in the mud

[@thesterndragoon9159]

X-MODE and the Symmetrical AWD really is a game changer for the all-terrain paradigm and open differential tire traction in every aspect. Subaru is the OG for All Wheel Drive and I don't think it will ever lose to the imitators.

[@vinter5256]

This generation doesn't have x mode that on more modern model years

[@AB-nv7bz]

Thats a lot of non-sense care jargon. It is open diffs at front and rear. Its the center diff that is key(not really a center diff, i believe the center is a combo front center diff). It will force a max of 50% power to the rear. Once the front slips, it will max out to the rear. As long as 1 tire on the front and 1 on the rear are not slipping the system works in off-road. If you try to rock crawl this thing it will struggle. Those other cars have an open center diff. Basically these people bought lifts and big tires, and don't know shit about off road.

[@lukemurphy7936]

They actually recently started making aftermarket center lockers and rear lockers for the subies, Im custom fitting an ARB air locker from a navara to my 04 forry and getting a center locker lol

[@down6ibuprofens]

@@AB-nv7bz subaru vtd comes into chat

[@anotherdave5107]

​@@lukemurphy7936- this is 2023 and by the body styling that was a pre CVT subby.

[@slandshark]

I've never taken my 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon out mudding before, but it's nice to know I'd probably be ok if needed. That said, 230k miles on it and it's never been stuck in the snow or anything. Still on the original clutch! Absolutely love the WRX!

[@AB-nv7bz]

It will get stuck 100%. The subaru's don't have locking front and rear diffs. If 1 front and rear tire starts spinning its over. The idiots in this video through tires and a lift kit would save them. Its all about locking diffs, and the nature of the subaru awd acts as a center locking diff. Its a great system, but its not for true off-road.

[@pascha4527]

@@AB-nv7bz False, the 04 WRX have rear and center viscous lsd diffs with an open front, so at least 3 wheel drive in slippery condition.

[@ioanbugheanu6836]

​@@AB-nv7bz plenty of the WRX badge subies have rear limited slip lockers as well as centre. They're rally car drivetrains

[@AB-nv7bz]

@@ioanbugheanu6836 Limited slip and lockers are not the same thing.

[@brianwithawhy4789]

4x4: " I NEED POWER AT RIGHT FRONT AND LEFT REAR" OPEN DIFFS: "BEST I CAN DO IS LEFT FRONT AND RIGHT REAR

[@wendelljohnson760]

Exactly dude😁😂😂😂😂😂

[@wendelljohnson760]

Buy a Subaru 😁😂😂😂

[@jeepmanxj]

@@wendelljohnson760 all modern 4x4s have brake lock diffs so it does exactly the same thing as the Subaru minus the open center diff

[@chrismorris6982]

😂

[@wendelljohnson760]

😂😂

[@rickd1412]

Its extremely dangerous to be standing next to a tow rope. Those kids could have been killed if that rope had snapped and whipped across their heads.

[@jessicawatson891]

I'm only 13 and have nothing to do with this video, but thank you for posting this comment. I would've never knew that unless I saw your post... Good to be safe

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Basically, you NEVER tow/recover by cables or rope. Somebody WILL eventually lose at arm/leg/head. Please use proper, flexible recovery straps !!

[@zulkanainbaharuddin2185]

That remind an incident we had offshore. With the supply boat during rough weàther. The boat was trying to align itself with the oil rig, with the sea current moving the boat abt. Some how one of cable was rally streched and snap killing one of the rigger onboard. I don't want to discribe how the body was, but I didn't eat the whole night remembering the incident.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

@@zulkanainbaharuddin2185 Absolutely right. I hope you have reached a point where you are able to forget.

[@kennithchapman9689]

Across their heads? You mean through their heads!😳

[@MirlitronOne]

Love my 14-year-old Legacy Outback. Once turned up to an outdoor event where car parking was the other side of a waterlogged field. Was allowed through because of the "4WD" logo. Past the stranded BMW whose driver "was sure he could make it", no trouble at all to prime parking spot. No problems leaving, either.

[@333AppalachiaEnergetics]

This reminds me of passing through a snow storm that dumped about 20 inches in WNC a few years ago. I returned from a trip, drove my Forester from the CLT airport (minimal snow) into WNC, snow was deeper & deeper along the way. I saw all kinds of 4WDs & once in the rural areas even some tractors stranded along the side of the roads. At one point a man on a tractor trying to clear out his stretch of road asked if I thought I could make it home, still had about 10 miles… LOL, I responded, pretty sure I got this… and made it just fine. Folks outside just scratching their heads watching my drive by at a snails pace. Getting ready to buy my 3rd. Had an outback, then forester… prefer the Forester. Love the x mode for steep mountain decents as well.

[@kx8960]

Funny, because in the CO blizzard of 2006 all I saw was cars and Subies stranded because of their limited ground clearance while I just cruised around in my '05 Dakota that had the AWD system from the Grand Cherokee. The Subies just got stuck worse than the Camry's. My 2024 Colorado ZR2 would make even lighter work of that with it's much greater ground clearance, 33's, and 3 lockers. I didn't see a single Subie in my 3 days on the trails at Moab last month (just Jeeps), or on the trail last weekend where there was a "rock garden" that would have stopped any of the small SUVS including my 2010 V6 AWD RAV4....well, unless you wanted to leave the bottom of your engine and tranny cases and all their fluids along the trail...LOL Yes, some of them can be surprisingly capable, my RAV having the advantage over the Subies of a real, mechanical center diff lock, but in the nasty stuff, nothing beats actual lockers and good tires. My ZR2 breezed thru stuff I wouldn't have even attempted in my RAV.

[@oohbabybloo]

Do you recall the model of Subies? If they weren’t forester, outback, or crosstek they could def be stranded more easily.

[@kx8960]

@@oohbabybloo Mostly Foresters and Outbacks, this was way before Crosstreks, but at the end I parked my truck because it was getting sketchy even for that with it's much bigger tires, clearance, and AWD with rear LSD. the only things moving by that time were me, some Jeeps and other trucks etc., , and the plows.

[@frEEkyTats]

Subaru guy keeps on winning random events but all he wants is to just get to the nearest mcdonalds.

[@peterkikillos8182]

Burger King

[@Techedship54]

Burger King

[@rockkstah2550]

Lol!!!!

[@jckdnls9292]

Starbucks

[@BadJellyman100]

Wendy's

[@MrSangfong281]

Yay let's all go mudding with an open differential. Let's all get stuck.

[@Yeti480]

Brassnox Noxette 😂

[@Ckcdillpickle]

@drewskie 1996 open diff / lsd in my truck with the poweof btm it has no issues off road

[@shouldbetrailered9046]

🤣

[@zackaryk2000]

@ekim andersom Yes, yes it does. The other vehicles would've cruised right through it if they weren't dumb and had locked their hubs, or had the correct diffs.

[@raynman6466]

Not everyone can afford to spend thousands on lockers

[@raymonroe1983]

Not that surprised really. I drive a junkyard legacy and that thing rips through everything. One of the best cars I've owned.

[@codymoncrief8478]

The whole comment section: “Driver error blah blah.” The Subaru drivers: “HOLD MY NONFAT DAIRY-FREE GREEN TEA LATTE AND WATCH THIS!”

[@A-G-F-]

Nah, those are BMW drivers, Subaru drivers are like: Hold my vape and my Aviici album

[@NotAMiata43]

@@A-G-F- watermelon vape

[@A-G-F-]

@@NotAMiata43 Or grapw

[@k-aw-teksleepysageuni8181]

"HOLD MY VAPE, DUDE. It can't get wet like my subie can."

[@japio8955]

@icewall flatearth Unless your diffs hit the middle of the track.

[@ponoma773]

After watching two videos of the Subaru beating all other 4wds... I without a doubt think that the Subaru is a great starter vehicle

[@indotube8125]

I really considered subaru for next car... amazing car

[@amishdinkledork]

I just bought a 2021 forester and the AWD system is amazing im not even experienced at off roading but my Subaru handles off roading like a champ

[@bearrett50kal17]

4X4 guys: dude isn't this a sick offroad park? technical rock gardens, sketchy mud pits, glad I got 35s Subaru guys: didn't even know this was an offroad park, I just drive through here on my way to work

[@ruggedlife]

Light weight, agressive tyres and enough clearance to not get hung up = success

[@Otaner142]

Rugged Life u missing the most important point. Its a subaru...

[@romankalinchuk2750]

and lsd or locked diff. that seemed to be the problem with the others

[@brianlayman9824]

That says it all.. other than you're lucky no one lost a cheek due to a strap snap.

[@adrianalvarado1206]

Rugged Life Subaru dors not have low range The others 4wd , if they have . Big diference 🤔

[@willgordon4752]

Adrián Alvarado they do have low range

[@logicpolice2451]

I think the diffs on the live axles we’re getting stuck on the centre hump. The Sub has independent suspension so better clearance and sailed straight over.

[@ryanharris7408]

Before I watched it I knew this would be the difference.

[@shanevonharten3100]

Good set of muddies onthe sube too

[@divanoosthuizen]

You can actually see where all the 4x4s diffs are dragging if you look at the mud. Still pretty impressive of the subi

[@seanosgood3229]

That's exactly what happened lol

[@Ckcdillpickle]

Which is why I love the independent suspension on my truck

[@Dot0011]

I didnt see 1 locking diff on the 4x4s

[@EDXR61993]

The Subaru Didn't need one :P

[@123fourfive5]

The triton has traction control so that comes pretty close. And you can see it working when it spun every tire as it was stuck

[@australianmade2659]

Joe Schmoe exactly. Without diff lock it’s not 4x4

[@SirThrivalism]

Subaru's AWD > everyone elses. Still, it'd be nice to see another 4x4 vehicle lock its diffs as a more legit comparison. I always love seeing how Subaru's AWD perform against 4x4s with locked diffs.

[@Mini-Hakkero]

I have wheeled with a stock touareg, and the AWD system in those is amazing too. Clearance is the only issue. People underestimate intelligent AWD.

[@Papashaft]

I mean, Subaru does makes a car that says “world rally cross”

[@aweba25]

Lolol right! People have forgotten that Subaru was initially famous for it's off-road capability.

[@Lokielan]

Truckers: you can't go through that. Soccer mom: hold my kids

[@joshuacastillo8238]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ginx-pe4si]

Why would truckers go through that? They haul freight and weigh 80,000 pounds

[@slicaltimistic1]

@@Ginx-pe4si Unless you got a overload permit.😂😂😂

[@Lokielan]

@@Ginx-pe4si Die Slow : why would truckers do that? They haul freight and weigh 80,000 pounds. Soccer mom: have my kids.

[@markwatney8641]

To catch a predator tv show: I'm Chris Hansen. Have a seat right there, won't you.

[@AaronCook83]

Buy a locker before a damn snorkel

[@uptheau1455]

Aaron Cook fuck that lockers are useful yeah but but snorkels are probably more of a must to anyone who goes into any water crossings or deep mud a diff lock wouldn’t of helped that much with the car been stuck on the diff plus lockers are a lot more expensive if you want front and rear

[@iunnox666]

@@uptheau1455Doesnt matter that they got stuck on the diffs, they wouldn't have made it through anyway. Only 1 or 2 of their wheels(with the least traction) were actually getting power.

[@ezrabegin8234]

You jealous cause a Subaru beat you

[@ssimon64]

Yeah no shit lol

[@Hole_Motorsports]

Ezra begin my full locked bronco could have done that easy.

[@qwertiee]

That Subaru literally went: "Light work bois"

[@GingerNingerGames]

Gonna say a lot of what would've helped it is not having the diff hanging down so low to get caught on that big middle section in the mud. Still, keen to take one of these out when I get the chance.

[@zainabe9503]

Yea never underestimate stuck pumpkins, they're the most effective unintentional brakes you ever encountered when your momentum & wheels should've taken care of the mud pit.

[@GingerNingerGames]

I've got the chance to take one out now, and I must say, damn it lived up to my expectations. Nothing like passing a bloke in a 200 series bogged in the sand and hearing “a bloody forester”

[@weatherornotsubaru]

Yeah, saw a video recently of a guy with a lifted truck talking about how he loves the ground clearance. I had to comment that the low hanging diff basically turns that ground clearance into 50%. My Stock Subaru has more actual ground clearance than his lifted truck because of that low hanging diff. Subaru's are basically flat underneath. A lot of vehicles have low hanging stuff. Another pet peeve is the Nissan Pathfinder. Actually all the recent Nissan SUV'ish vehicles have it, the low hanging bar, looks like a support bar of some kind that just kills the ground clearance.

[@ProudDeplorable25]

Makes me proud to drive a subie! It might be a brand new legacy that will never see this type of action but it’s nice to know she’ll be able to handle the worst of conditions come winter time

[@Lizarthur63]

Subaru is an incredible vehicle. I owned one for 16 years. Traded it in for a new Outback 2018.

[@greekpapi]

I was never a Subaru guy until my company offered one up so I got it to see what all the fuss was about. After the 1st snow storm I understood why. I am now a Subaru man for life. They got this 4 wheel drive thing figured out....

[@robpetty8219]

It's not just newer Subarus either... My 87 three-door justy, my 91 5 door justy, my 1990 Loyale turbo wagon, and my 1984 GL wagon. All mostly stock. None with lift, have all embarrassed many "real" 4x4 rigs of varying makes, types, and build budgets. Thank you Fuji Heavy Industries.

[@johnk8825]

As a police officer in the 70's, we had a nasty winter storm come up suddenly, trapping school buses trying to get the children home. After we relayed the school kids home, two of us in private raised 4x4's spent the next 48 hours looking for vehicle roof tops sticking out of the snow and then digging down to make sure everyone got home safely. The only moving vehicle we saw was a Subaru. I watched this Subaru go down a road too deep for us, looked like a turtle sliding across the top of the drifts. Bought a Subaru for the wife when spring (and more Subarus) arrived.

[@subieliftoz4274]

That's awesome!

[@Butterflylo328]

Yeah I had 3 different jeeps and the only way they do good is doing modifications on the differentials and I have now Subaru and they do awesome no modifications at all

[@ryano8613]

Great story!! I have a 86 GL10 TURBO WAGON I bought about 10 years ago with a blown Head Gasket (wouldn't ya know it) and after the purchase it sat for a good 2 years and another 3 years b4 I got it. 5 years it sat . My friend had an emergency in the deep Mt snow and the only way up was my Subaru, (it's lifted 4 in. With 29in. BfG ATs btw) so I threw some gas in it and a new battery that night , fired right up and actually ran amazing to our/my surprise!!! So blown HG (found out it really did have a bad HG lol) we departed on a 150 mile snow rescue mission and I tell ya I was blasting by yotas with 40s it was insane. The turbo intercooled ea82 actually had some good power to roost snow and the dual range helped also. I still have the car it's having issues again but 8 years of solid service after this happen. It over heated so bad that day but I later rebuilt that motor (cracked heads and all!) And it's been a soldier! I think the motor is done now sadly but I'm planning an EJ22 stroker NA swap should be easy being it's already a MPFI car. Also has the 4wdisk brakes and fox coilovers in back. My son who's 3 will drive that car someday!

[@beefnacos6258]

Too bad they're small gay n ugly

[@kendo512]

This is a wholesome tale

[@rakhit]

I will never understand why folks are impressed with Sub Diffs. They've been owning the offroad market for a very long time. And for very good reason.

[@benjaminhill7872]

I had the same experience with my Subaru Outback. When it comes to mud or snow, it outperformed my 1970 FJ40 LandCruiser and my 1971 GMC truck. I've pulled Ford trucks out of ditches and climbed snow-covered hills in the high mountains of Utah where other SUVs and trucks just kept sliding back down or spinning their wheels. Amazing AWD system!

[@jakegarrett8109]

+Nate Brindabella Actually some older vehicles are better. New vehicles use open differentials (usually), and if you go way back, they didn't even have differentials, so they were solid axle, so you won't have 1 tire spinning and the other sitting, they all spin at the same rate. I welded the diffs on my racing mower (its called grasscar), and now I can safely handle 30 mph turns because instead of rolling over, they are allowed to slide and drift. In a mudpit, they pull just like a utility quad because they are both getting power to them, instead of just slipping one wheel. You can go through a lot more, you actually end up over doubling the grip (one wheel always gets a little more traction than the other, and with open diffs, it only powers the weekest traction due to equal toruqe split, however as soon as it looses traction power defined as torquexrpm, and the other wheel gets no power so you get stuck).

[@jakegarrett8109]

Age doesn't mean anything (just like I have a 1.3 liter naturally aspirated engine, you might think its low powered or that it makes good gas mileage. Its rated over 230 HP stock, and it doesn't even make 10 mpg in town though), so some numbers like age or engine displacement are meaningless on their own. They don't tell you enough about the vehicle. What I was referring to was a design style period, not necessarily literal age.

[@stuartmccloud307]

my 3..0R Legacy estate with 2 bald tyres outperformed every vehicle around here in the 4 inches of snow a few weeks ago. There were numerous japanese 4x4 abandoned at the bottom of my hill, but my scooby just climbed it with no problem. I have 2, they are utterly awesome vehicles.once you find a good thing.............

[@wg4476]

what year is your outback? I have a baja which is based on the outback. the 2003 Baja has rear LSD, whereas all other bajas are rear open diff.

[@baronnecas2880]

Jake Garrett how fucking far are you going back where a car doesn't have a diff? 1887 Mercedes? Because even a Model T has a diff, I've rebuilt the damn thing. And they're all open on old cars, that's why posi-traction was such a big deal. You may know about new stuff, off-road, whatever I'm not calling you dumb but you clearly aren't very familiar with older vehicles. My 1959 Rambler and 1966 Mustang do hilarious one wheel peels because of the open diffs.

[@airbornetortilla9489]

And this is why the Subaru is the unofficial official car of Alaska

[@madmattsubieman9807]

Seen this video a few times and still love it. That's why I own 2 Subaru's and will only drive Subarus. Great little cars

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

I thought this was going to be click bait or an over-exaggeration... I was wrong. LoL.

[@fishgameandgo6516]

Should be title "Limited Slip Differentials (Subaru) vs. Open Differentials (Stuck 4WD SUV)"

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

The title of the video is bound to attract some hate, but he sure is killing it with the number of views he's getting. In all seriousness, I think every single truck or jeep out there, open diff or not, will think they are superior in all aspects of trail riding. We all know that all but the most top of the line trucks and jeeps have diff lockers (atleast here in America). The most basic Subaru always has it's full time all wheel drive system, it's not even an option (with the exception on the BRZ, not even sure if they sell that car in Australia). I'm not saying a Subaru can always compete, but there are somethings that they are good at. Lightweight, small, good power to weight ratio, well balanced, low center of gravity, super tight turning radius, fuel efficiency are what come to mind. I had this guy tell me "you won't make it, there's a 3 foot drop off" while I was ascending up a rocky mountain. But he was driving a Ford Raptor, a very very wide and gigantic truck, he only had 1 line to ride down. My little Subaru had all sorts of lines to ride up. I snaked up that mountain with no problem in my CVT turbo Forester with stock height but A/T's. Not bad for a little grocery getter.

[@RoxyLynne]

I have a CRV and they are awesome for light off-road when setup right and reliable as hell. I also have a Subaru and nothing can touch it in this category.

[@WannabeWRX]

The Forrester is full open diff (front, center, rear). Only the WRX STI has limited slip diffs.

[@andrei80]

Nope. It has a viscous coupling diff in center and a LSD in the back. A weak LSD, but it's there...STIs have a more advanced center, stronger LSD(Torsen, I think) in the back and another LSD(helical, I think) in the front. This one probably has lockable diffs in front and rear.

[@ilovetheeightsix4885]

Ok so I noticed that a lot of the the 4wd stopped working properly and if you pay attention some of the tires were crap, Subaru uses one of the best awd systems and coupled to good tires not to mention it was like 2k pounds lighter than the trucks it did it with ease

[@decwow]

Yeah... But that's less of a criticism of the comparison and more an advertisement for a better design.

[@PorcupinePunched]

Most 4wd's have an open diff up front.

[@51249ca]

the Subaru has like half the usable torque (if that). I own a 2018 2/5i base model, cause I don't care for extraneous electronics. It can barely break loose on traction cause it barely can make any usable torque. Still, works for me on the highways (very quiet), decent gas mileage, ditch the stock tires (Subaru should be ashamed of that crap...or sued). Have yet to truly test its AWD system, though it handles 7" inches of snow on those shitty stock tires.

[@williammurray1341]

I was accused of walking a trail to mark it for a convoy of 4x4 and 6x6. Finding an impression of my Michelins proved i drove my '79 DL5 2x4 wagon along the route.

[@joshtp1234]

Locking differential makes a big difference. And the tires on the Subaru were knobier than the rest. That helps a lot as well.

[@BLKBRDD]

Yeah just cope man 😂

[@bombardierboerboels]

No locking diffs on the subl

[@DanielFrein-n5r]

Whatever it takes to make you feel better.

[@alleyway3215]

That's it! I'm getting a Sabaru. Between this video and the sand hill test video, I'm convinced.

[@intuit5767]

After nearly a half century of driving, finally got an Outback...will never look back.

[@hackonefouryou]

Me too! Gave up on pickup trucks. Life is good with Subie!

[@EngiNetion]

I got a 2007 forester

[@dkraft1]

1st year Outback here...!! 1996 Outback 2.2L 5MT...

[@EngiNetion]

@@dkraft1 That is amazing car! I've never seen one in real life

[@gabemiller9873]

I love my forester!!! I turboed it here in America

[@FindTheFun]

Everyone: "Imma get a lifted truck." Lifted trucks: "Why?"

[@AClRCLEOFLlGHT]

because you can't get a dick extension.

[@snorp6781]

@@AClRCLEOFLlGHT that's a category 5 oof

[@jameson1239]

@@AClRCLEOFLlGHT you actually can

[@Tacomaholic]

Subarus are awesome ... especially if they get a bit of ground clearance.

[@bryanmartinez6600]

Tacomaholic 1 inch on a Subaru is equal to 10 inch on a pickup

[@jaymax9560]

They are building a proper SUV its called Subaru Accent. It's launching in America this month.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Jello Shot in America, I won’t be a proper SUV, just the same Subaru Magic, which isn’t a bad thing. It’ll be more proper than a Honda Pilot or Toyota Highlander, which are its competitors, but with no true low range gearing, it’s not as truly proper as a 4wd 4Runner. X-Mode does help. Mimicking low gearing and a locked center diff with hill descent control forward and backwards.

[@pietercrois9122]

Subarus are the best of all. ;p

[@majkutisusernameom]

Ascent

[@FandomChronicle]

Grip, weight, speed, momentum, timing, acceleration, resistance, height, angle, gear shifts, just one will make a difference

[@comdrive3865]

What about differentials, electronics, tyre pressure

[@gordthor5351]

@@comdrive3865 Yes, there are many factors, but locking differentials are the biggest factor. It's the difference between 4 wheels spinning (locking diff), or 2 wheels spinning and 2 dragging like boat anchors (open diff).

[@fod8u]

@@gordthor5351 did he just manage to get all four wheels spinning with equal traction and helped by the lack of dif clearance and possibly having a skinnier wheel track?? Did he have some kind of dif lock? Mud tyres? I'm impressed but genuinely confused as to why that was so easy.

[@gordthor5351]

@@fod8u There are many variables, but the main difference is that the Subaru has some type of locking diffs or limited slip. It makes all the difference in the world when power is going to all 4 wheel. It's far better than twice as good, because any wheel that isn't pulling the vehicle forwards, ends up a big boat anchor dragging in the mud, which the two drive wheels need to also pull through the mud. A spinning wheel is always crawling up on top of the mud. A none powered wheel is plowing deeper into the mud. Open diffs tend to lock one wheel front and back diagonally, so a more experienced driver would be constantly turning the steering wheel to try and get the opposite (dragging) wheels alternating power back and forth (diagonally), but even this is no comparison to all 4 wheels pulling all the time.

[@chadingram6390]

@@gordthor5351 The mud tires on the Subaru were probably the biggest factor. All Terrain tires with open diffs vs Mud Terrain tires with limited slip diff

[@Old-Mango]

Notice how the patrol and l200 didnt have front/rear lockers engaged or maybe even fitted at all, makes all the difference

[@huntertate5607]

The so called 4x4's need front and rear diff lockers not some fancy traction control. Without front and rear diff locks they are basically 2wd. Subaru did very well. Surprising with open diffs ....the center differential viscous coupling obviously works well for transfering the power plus the lightweight unibody helps stay above the surface. Think it's also valid to point out how aggressive the tires are on the Subaru...they look more aggressive and gear towards mud than the 4x4

[@assassinxsteveo]

Forester... “hold my beer!!”

[@alexk2418]

For what? Shiting your self?

[@thefreedomguyuk]

No... Forester : "Hold my front locking diff !!"

[@VentureAHighway]

Hahahah 2 min mark...

[@danial8040]

hold my trees

[@cledesma135]

A Fosters

[@LukeTCC]

keep in mind when reading this comment, i am no expert on this topic. however, i have some pretty basic knowledge. the first two guys woh tried to cross the mud pit ran straight in there at high speeds, meaning that when they get into the mud, the wheels will be spinning so fast that they lost traction and instead of driving forward, they will just dig a hole in the ground that will get the vehicle stuck. they then proceeded to step on the gas pretty hard when they got stuck, which just made the problem worse. the subaru on the other hand went in nice and slow, meaning that the wheels were able to keep traction on the mud, and continue to drive the vehicle forward instead of just digging a hole.

[@defaultyturtle2237]

You are actually correct my good sir, have a like

[@AAHKLEE]

More power. More power. NO!!

[@robcampbell7175]

Yeah pretty spot on... Aso when you go in at high speeds you have a lot more energy when you hit something that stops you which forces you farther into the mud instead of 'hydroplaning' over it like some people think it does.

[@LukeTCC]

@@robcampbell7175 yeah, i was actually writing something very similar to that, but didn't quite know how to word it. thanks for doing it for me.

[@thirstydogs810]

Yes, I did this with my mom's Toyota Corolla and shamed everyone at the mud pit with their lifted F-150s and Jeep Rubicons.

[@40nothing]

They have open differentials so once a wheel spins all the power goes to it and the other wheels just sit. If they had LSD's or lockers all 4 wheels would get power. Subaru's automatically apply brakes to the spinning wheels to transfer power to the ones that are sitting.

[@ProteinFeen]

Smartest person here

[@honeybadger1656]

One time, i was driving in a nature reserve with my 05 Forester 2.5x. There was a tricked out Ford Ranger 4x4 that was struggling on this muddy section. He had to reverse out and go another way, i went through like it was nothing.

[@mountainconstructions]

Looks like the other were all Open Diffs...| Still, great effort by the little Subie

[@WannabeWRX]

The only Subaru without an open center diff is the WRX STI. Everything else within the Subaru lineup is open diff.

[@GeorgeXian]

Not true, all manual Subaru's have a viscous center diff. Automatics I don't quite understand but is very front bias, manual is 50:50 nominal torque split. Today's Subaru's are losing the rear LSD and using traction control instead (sucks!), meaning Subaru's are open left and right. The WRX STi has a epicyclic center diff which. The DCCD does NOT set the torque split. It sets the max locking force. When the diff is OPEN (when the DCCD is set all the way back), it sends about 60% of torque to the rear. When DCCD is set to auto or full "front bias and front slip is detected it can almost fully lock the front and back axles. WRX STi also has LSDs on both front and rear differentials due to the center differential being open most of the time.

[@wg4476]

+George Xian My manual 2003 Subaru Baja is the only baja with a rear LSD.

[@williamtay4889]

1more earphone

[@buddyclem7328]

George Xian Older Subaru automatics have no center differential, so when the center clutches are engaged, the center diff is locked. (Think PTO shaft on a tractor, or other heavy equipment.) My 1998 Forester L has a 4 speed AT, traction control, and ABS. A Subaru dealer told me that the Forester is the first mass produced car to have traction control.

[@VestedUTuber]

Listen to the engines on each of these vehicles and you'll see where the mistake is. All the other drivers tried to floor it through that puddle. The subie driver took it easy, didn't lose traction or dig ruts, and managed to pull themselves through with ease. People, you can't buy throttle control.

[@TamaraWiens]

Yeah, driver technique wasn't great with the "real" 4x4's. That likely played a part, along with not locking the differentials (if they could, then their failure is more driver error). I guess if your off-roader regularly gets stuck, you're more likely to floor it and hope that momentum overcomes everything else...

[@TerryBeatson]

I love diesels and four wheel drives, but I have to give credit where credit is due, Subarus started my love for them. If I got bogged in a Nissan Patrol and saw a Subie Forester cruise past casually, I'd give full props to the driver, no questions asked. Just goes to show it comes down to driver skill over modifications.

[@aaronbalchand5475]

Truck: **gets stuck** Subaru: hehe car go burr

[@009013M3]

correction: "Car go brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr" :D

[@nledevil]

Has no one heard of lockers or limited slip? Like wtf? It’s not 4wd when 2 tires don’t move smh. A full time 4wd with locked diffs would perform just as good as the Subaru or better.

[@killajakez]

I saw at least two trucks with the passenger side front wheel not moving while the rear was spinning.

[@asgamon9670]

Yeah lol

[@zackobrien2223]

You obviously didn't watch the video.

[@srnunan4783]

Quote "its not 4wd when two tires don't move" this is how older 4wds were before traction control or aftermaket diff locks are added. Drive one wheel up a bank and the whole thing stops. The AWD system in the subie along with better clearance with no live axle diff housing hanging down make a joke of the 'big serious four wheel drives'!

[@magnacartasamadams8189]

@@srnunan4783 my ZR2 would do just as good as the Subaru

[@ghosttacticalairsoft4348]

confirmed Subarus are secretly boats

[@kevinjozwiak5696]

SECRET

[@seanmcseanson]

Confirmed secret?

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

Junk

[@seanmcseanson]

Not junk

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

Junk to the 3rd degree

[@timr617]

That's awesome. I'm getting a Forester for my next car.

[@dylz5607]

The salty guys in the background when the subaru crosses 😂

[@wendelljohnson760]

😍😂😂

[@Inhimwelive]

Subarus are great. But here's the deal the stuck trucks were bottoming out. They immediately hit bottom and stopped. The Subaru has higher ground clearance, especially in the middle so it didn't bottom out. My stock Sport Trac has 9.25" ground clearance, my stock Subaru has 11"

[@uptheau1455]

Creature Clips it doesn’t have higher ground clearance it’s because of the independent suspension that it can get through it doesn’t have to worry about it’s diff hitting so much

[@Inhimwelive]

@@uptheau1455 wrong...

[@uptheau1455]

Creature Clips no not wrong the body and clearance of the other 4wds is higher it’s just they have live axles that get stuck without bigger tires or portal axles you can’t raise the diff

[@Inhimwelive]

@@uptheau1455 you are clueless. The differential is part of ground clearance!!!! And Subarus have higher ground clearance then stock pickups.

[@OMthree28]

No need to make excuses. This Patrol does all the talking. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paqUeHyona5mjK8

[@jimmyjoseph51]

I knew there was a reason why I loved my Subaru......:)

[@alancadieux2984]

Different track width and didnt get hung up underneath, if you aint in the deep ruts bellying out makes a big difference.

[@sazcxieo]

I know what im driving after zombie apocalypse

[@minniemin1324]

if you pay close attention to popular zombie tv shows/movies, you'll notice there's at least one subaru outback in them

[@freedomonline4988]

Nothing to be scared since it is after zombie apocalypse

[@sailormoonsaya2988]

Lol after zombie apocalypse

[@Nevvum]

Tesla Cybertruck, you can charge via solar

[@josephdykes1820]

Another reason to love Subies!

[@tomdavis3038]

In a somewhat related topic, I live in a snowy area and see FAR more big tough 4 wheel drive trucks with big tough off road tires and equipment getting stuck and sliding into ditches than little Subaru’s with regular old all season tires. And in my area Subaru is very popular

[@cramias1]

I think part of it is that truck owners may drive more aggressively assuming their big tough-guy lifted 4x4 will save them, and subaru owners tend to be more conservative (small-c conservative, meaning cautious), responsible, careful drivers. You can see it in this video, most of the truck drivers tried to floor it through the puddle and dug themselves in, the subaru took it slower and didn't lose traction

[@AhmedAlzaghoul]

I used to have a Subaru for 12 years ,, never has let me down

[@amairplanebrrrpppptttttt9094]

Subaru: "nothing to see here, just passing through"

[@pelagiustracnaj5232]

It looked like a couple of the dudes stuck didn’t have locking diffs, at least not in the front. That may have helped. I have had my Subaru for a few years and never had it stuck and I’ve had my Jeep yj for about a year and honestly when it comes to snow and slick conditions the Subaru always wins. But the Jeep has been a beast in its own right. When storm season comes around I can pull fallen trees out of the road or if I’m in a rush drive over them. Respect is certainly due for either vehicle AWD &4WD are both sick. Wish the community’s vibed a little better. Same for those dudes that think a car that isn’t American isn’t a 4x4. That’s just silly.

[@Mattxwill1]

Literally no one ever says that about "American 4x4s". Like ever. I've been in the community for 3 decades.

[@roybenedicto8642]

Awesome Subaru! Thanks for sharing this ... now I'm getting the Subaru Ascent this year... 😁

[@heinzbaron9129]

The L200 with the 4M40 is a very capable machine. I've used it to pull a number of stuck vehicles out of sticky situations.

[@JesseGuest]

none of the "4x4" had locking diffs. The subie has an advanced AWD system capable of putting power to all four wheels, or just the wheels with most traction. The non-locking 4x4's are actualy 2wd. one single front wheel spins, and a single rear spins. better diff clearance helps for sure, but four wheels churning doesn't hurt either!

[@CalumMcInnes]

Yeah I was gonna say

[@Mp57navy]

They all have center diff locks, some even rear axle locks. The Nissan certainly has one. If they would have known their cars, they would have used it.

[@JesseGuest]

Mp57navy how do you know they have rear axle locks? I’m betting they have transfer cases as opposed to center diffs, but I don’t really know.

[@jaykay3811]

You could see the front wheels spinning on the SUV's, and the Subaru has an open diff.

[@DanielFrein-n5r]

So you just explained why the stock Subaru is better. Got it.

[@azone123465]

OPEN DIFF AND MUD NO MIX MIX.

[@ahmednoushad3374]

Azone123465 i was thinking the same. I mean Nissans in that mud? Should have been a piece of cake.

[@justine.3576]

Subarus have open difs, seemed to do fine

[@justin76bmw]

My 99 tahoe has f/r lockers and 35" MTs, it's not even funny the amount of shit the plows through.

[@stanmcdonald9812]

Justin E. the Subaru has symmetrical AWD

[@DG-mi2mc]

True

[@ProfileHomeTab-g9h]

Guy wondering why everyone is crowding around his route to work

[@HomesteadOnThePreserve]

THANK YOU, this video just made my day! (i own a 2022 Outback Wilderness)

[@danielpedulla1890]

This might be my favourite video of all time👌👌 love the vids and keep going with the suby pride

[@carsmartsmedia2324]

My '03 has 151k miles and with snow tires, it is UNSTOPPABLE in heavy snow!!!

[@bathingape9369]

what 03?

[@Ckcdillpickle]

My stock 80's Truck with factory tires has no issues in snow either

[@bujank700]

4WD Trucks : Why is this so hard Subaru : OBSERVE

[@BakedSalmonela]

diff lock is one of the best things offroaders can invest in

[@joelmarr6590]

3:47 - Now THAT'S confidence in motion!

[@marcelobado3599]

In South America with horror roads. Subaru is the best bilive or not. Better than Chevy and Ford. Subaru never broken. Sorry for my engish

[@DerryntheDog]

this could be a poem

[@justin76bmw]

Subarus are almost standard issue in the northeast.

[@BadgunmusicII]

Even here in the states, Subaru is know for its durability and fantastic AWD system. Ford makes good heavy duty fleet trucks. Chevy make good muscle cars. They all have different strengths and weaknesses.

[@andreasskordalis4062]

Bmw is better

[@SanityDrop]

@@andreasskordalis4062 that moving bombs? Lol

[@gabrieliuskacinskas6874]

Subaru: *that was easy*

[@davidd6003]

Until its time to change the timing belt lol

[@ezrabegin8234]

Subaru for the win

[@Fozzy10XT]

The first land cruiser did not even lock the diffs, how was he ever gonna make it without turning on the actual 4wd system

[@MGiordano]

Not for nothing but... check out the tires on the Subaru compared to the rest. That's like Muck Boots vs. Flip Flops.

[@alexforkner4076]

I was thinking the same thing. Those subie tires are way more aggressive than the "4x4s"

They were all on aggressive off road tyres! You're only going to see what you want to see though I guess.

[@afilleduptaco]

martin prisc seems that these ‘mudders’ weren’t very well prepared

[@IvanToman]

Yep, much better tyres and also driver seems more intelligent!

[@thomasshook6376]

That is the difference between mud tires and all terrain tires. Mud tires clear out when you spin them.

[@blackprince5192]

Literally Subaru is unstoppable, well done 👏👏👏

[@dylanknowsalot2048]

Haters gonna hate but subarus will always be the best all wheel drive. Best cars best suvs hands down. No better handling stock automobile.

[@LarryDaignault]

II don't think it is really about Subaru Haters, it comes down to the fact that the Subura was better equipped. I used to drive a Wrangler TJ Sport with open diffs and I got stuck all the time in mud, snow, you name it. I upgraded to a Rubicon with locking diffs with inferior tires to my previous TJ and I have never been stuck yet. IMO, these other people should have never been on these trail conditions. The Subura was chomping at the bit for his turn because he new damned well that he would make it based on his superior suspension setup.

[@user-os8sq3uh4n]

First sentence was true. But the rest were you getting carried away. None of the Subarus are even in best cars under $75k let alone more expensive. Best SUV? Nope. That would be Land Cruiser, G Wagon, among others. Best handling? Well they sometimes win rally but they don't win anything else. So I'm gonna have to say no on that one.

[@therocklobman2820]

If only Subaru made PICK-UP TRUCKS

[@T97V]

Yeah Subaru is good, but don't worked Audi Quattro!

[@DocHolliday3841]

Looks like a bunch of open diffs, Subaru has the symmetrical AWD system & it simply kicks ass. The same can be accomplished on other vehicles but people waste money on other things.

[@chesterandrew1411]

Boxer+Symmetrical All Wheel Drive System = Subaru

[@POBulkhead]

A week ago I had to retire my 2000 Forester. Funny how attached you can get to an automobile. One time I was on a construction job where the job super was a jerk and blocked my car in to where the only way out was the four wheeled fork truck path that looked like the mud hole on this video. It looked impossible, she walked right through it and it was talked about for three weeks. I cried when I took off the plates.

[@OMthree28]

Thomas Pedersen - you cried? Subaru is definitely the perfect fit for you.

[@rogerfroud300]

The 'off roaders' are hopeless because there's no diff lock. They just spin the wheels with the least grip. I guess the Subaru has some sort of limited slip diff. If you buy a toy, don't expect it to work like a proper 4x4

[@SergeantExtreme]

Or the owner of the Forester could have locked the diff himself. It's obviously not stock, so it's a legit possibility.

[@lloydrobert6182]

Nov. 2020. Wow, I came here after the Subaru on the hill. Just had to see more of these amazing vehicles!

[@driddlesd9363]

This is actual porn for people who live in the PNW. They saw the word Subaru and clicked instinctively.

[@barbryll8596]

B.C. Canada here.....in my small town in the mountains, every second car is Subaru. I love mine!!

[@wicholo1417]

Yup, tell me about it. Im just here waiting for the snow in the Mt Hood area.

[@jessewest2109]

As soon as that head gasket is ready. Wastate wrx for life

[@HeartTribe]

You're missing the cuckold part

[@geoninja8971]

Good one - lets see if the kids could get any closer to that snatch strap under tension.....

[@brianlayman9824]

100% Yes. That was cringe worth..

[@richarddunstall5870]

Yeah pretty dumb, it wasn’t a snatch strap though (nowhere near enough stretch). Still way too close.

[@WhiteGravey]

thank you youtube safety police. now make sure you never leave your moms basement cuz you know know what could happen a plane my crash land ontop of your head

[@ladyfingers6306]

KoG GoK mate if you have actually seen one of those snap you would wanna stay well back from it. Its common sense mate, just the same as wearing a seat belt, everyone think its a restriction until its the only thing between you and death or worse...

[@WhiteGravey]

i do stay away from them. i just dont give a fuck about what other people do their safety isnt my responsibility.

[@KastaRules]

A snorkel mounted on an open diff vehicle which cannot even cross a puddle. BADASS.

[@mack_mcmillan]

Never in my wildest did I think I'd WANT a Forester... That looks fun!

[@delayedinsanity]

I saw a couple of Nissan's and a Mistubishi, where were the "real 4wds"??

[@God-gy6po]

@ toyota

[@thefreedomguyuk]

@ Mercedes GD, with true 4WD, aka individual lock of all wheels ! Or, an Unimog.

[@joshuavanderschaaf5145]

Yeah the Toyotas that a real fwd

[@jld9822]

Fake, pretenders or bad drivers kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKvdhY2MqbVkgJY

[@BlakeGibbons]

Exactly