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@martinvegas13273 жыл бұрын
Analytical sounding is tyring. They need a kick up the ass to get good again. Pm1 days are long gone!
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@martinvegas1327 Ooh I loved the PM1s. That was SUCH A COOL speaker.
@gavriushka3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the tower in this series would sound the same to you, or separating the lows and mids entirely would somehow help the highs. Balance them out if you will. I have the 603 S2s paired with Rotel RA-1592. Never fatigued by them at all. But great review, thank you guys!
@zachariahadams3 жыл бұрын
Man, no question of the day?
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@zachariahadams Not today. Sorry.
@petenamlook183 жыл бұрын
If reviewers actually had to spend their own money to buy the products they review, you might actually see more "negative" reviews. Much respect for Andrew telling his personal experience.
@bryanherr10933 жыл бұрын
He returned the speakers and spent $0.
@newsigmundfreud30233 жыл бұрын
@@bryanherr1093 By letting them know something to the effect “next time make sure you give it to me for free”... Maybe.
@namelessmusik43452 жыл бұрын
And by not reading the manual saying it needs 50h playtime for perfekt sound... I Hope he also didn't use the room in the Background
@chrisose3 жыл бұрын
The "our employees love them" was a classic passive aggressive "What the F is wrong with you" statement from a company that is full of themselves. On a side note: As an audio engineer for 40 years I am surprised that audiophiles do not employ the strongest tool in an engineer's arsenal, graphic/parametric EQ. This is how we adapt systems to changing rooms and conditions to get the absolute best sound possible yet audiophiles seem to prefer to spend thousands on different amps and speakers trying to find a pairing that fits their listening space.
@richardramorino33193 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! As an audiophile I have always been flabbergasted that people will spend thousands of dollars on cables, and amps, and stands and all kinds of crazy shit to try and eke out a small change in sound when they ignore the 5 gorillas in the room…the actual room. For most of we consumer level audiophiles I believe the answer is software like DIRAC. Help tame the room and you can add or subtract frequency response of your system to suit your taste.
@Hirnlego9993 жыл бұрын
This is why i use headphones mostly these days.
@jdc2123 жыл бұрын
Having been in the business for more than 25 years.... "They ain't all winners". Tell it like YOU hear it. Thank you!
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Everyone, Good evening (or morning)! First, let me just say that I appreciate you all watching and for all your comments and support, even if you disagree with my views or approach to this review. I am writing to address a comment I've seen more than once on this video. With respect to "break-in", it is no secret that I think a lot of lip service is paid to the concept of break-in. To be clear, I believe both pairs of loudspeakers we had purchased for this review were appropriately "broken in." I think it is appropriate for loudspeaker drivers to be given time to loosen up, stretch their legs so to speak, but no, I did not let them play for hundreds upon hundreds of hours before listening. Here is the issue with the break-in argument from MY perspective. I've said this in a prior video, but I feel it is more likely that one gets "used to" the sound of their new speakers rather than the new speaker miraculously knowing just how to "change" so that the outcome is (always) positive. The larger question I have surrounding break-in is this; why is it that no speaker seems to get worse with break-in? So while I do not personally believe in break-in, I do believe in giving a speaker time to loosen up and that time was given to each of these speakers repeatedly. We also used these speakers with a barrage of electronics, all of which we've mostly had for a year or more and that I am intimately familiar with. So while I will likely never convince you of my views having to do with break-in, know that you will most assuredly not change my mind to yours either. So, let's be respectful, and just agree to disagree. But I hope this helps answer any questions surrounding the issue going forward. Thanks everyone and I appreciate you watching! Be well! -Andrew
@mrjuanderfuI3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if someone can tell me how to measure any difference after "break-in" I would accept it as fact. I always tell people I'd be glad to wager $1,000 if you can show me some evidence of any sonic difference (especially with the ludicrous hundreds of hours proposed). No one has ever taken me up on it... Hmmmm I wonder why?
@KC-bv9kf3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your points about speakers “break-in”. It got so ludicrous that there was a whole cottage industry to break-in speakers. If there was anything positive about the 2007 financial meltdown was that it eliminated some of the snake oils. That break-in argument is a cop out by the manufacturers and a pass by the reviewers. On a more serious matter, can you comment on how much time were given to break in the speaker cables? 😁
@chrisrizzo6273 жыл бұрын
Well said Andrew. Keep up the great work!
@andreasmoller97983 жыл бұрын
I think break in is very real, noticed that my self when i got b&w 702 s2 as listen everyday i can easily spot of their is a difference the most difference is most noticeable with bass after run in
@andreasmoller97983 жыл бұрын
@@Pete.across.the.street while their character will stay the same no matter of its run in or not, but behavior change on the speaker after burn in, my 702 e.x was agressive and thin sounding, but they calm down eventully after some weeks
@robertnitsche84103 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion on the 606 S2, though I disagree with it. I auditioned the Elac Debut Reference, the Kef LS 50 Meta, and the Klipsch RP 600M before settling on the B&W 606 S2. My subjective impression's were: the Elac's sounded dull and lifeless, the LS50's imaged like no tomorrow, but had weak midrange and bass, and the Klipsch sounded harsh and analytical. I thought the 606 sounded the most well rounded of that group, so I bought them. I have listened to my 606's for hours at a time, with no fatigue. The last music I listened to was Junior Brown's greatest hits on CD and Miles Davis Kind Of Blue on 45rpm Mofi vinyl. Very different music and sources, but the B&W's sounded great to me. It might be as you said, my 59 year old ears can't compete with yours in discernment and sensitivity. To all that have commented that they will now avoid the 606 S2 based on this review, I say, this is just one man's subjective opinion, and I respect it. But, listen to these for yourself and make your decision based on personal experience. I use reviews like this as a guide, not a blueprint.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
I respect and appreciate your thoughtful comment, Robert. I share your thoughts with the Elac speakers and very much liked the KEF Metas. I was not a huge fan of the 600M despite being a lover of the klipsch sound. In the end, I 100% agree that anyone considering these should listen to them for themselves and make their up their own minds. Thank you so much for sharing your own personal experience.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Robert, you may have just won my comment of the day. Thank you and I agree with you 100%.
@jonlevinson30003 жыл бұрын
You phrased this so much better than I could. Thank you. My experience with the 606 S2 parallels yours.
@HomeTheatre1013 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better. I love mine!
@tomhound2733 жыл бұрын
Robert - your comment makes sense. When you poll the reviews by very qualified reviewers - the 607-2 is quite well thought of.
@ProperZen3 жыл бұрын
You won me for life for saying that you recognize that your negative review could put you outside of the free/early access from B&W’s marketing team. As a marketer, I know the background game of incentives and access used to put pressure on reviewers. And B&W are GIANTs in the industry. To put that relationship in jeopardy, and to let people in on what happens behind the curtain, truly shows the depth of your character. Something that I, as a viewer, rarely trust in online “personalities.”
@Terry123453 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@jaredhylton65913 жыл бұрын
Not just B&W, but keep in mind that we are talking about Sound United here, that is much bigger than just B&W. I also applaud the honesty here and hope you continue to receive products from Sound United in the future.
@henson2k3 жыл бұрын
The truth is: we, as consumers, do need negative reviews.
@MrCollective2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily negative, but unbias honesty. Ever manufacturer needs to prove why their product is worth our money. Even if we enjoy the products they've produced in the past. So if that's what you meant then yes.
@pmizz79593 жыл бұрын
Good for you guys for having the balls to say what you believe even if it can be against your own interests to do so. True sign of character.
@scottbaylor62153 жыл бұрын
I personally appreciate the honesty you have shown here. As a product manager for products outside this industry, this kind of reviews hurt, however, it does give us product designers a feel for where we stand and where we need to go. That is better than not knowing at all or being misled. Honesty is always the best policy. Sound United would be fools to not leverage your input and knowledge in the future. As a follower of your channel, as well as others, we must remember that sometimes we just have to hear it for ourselves. God bless. Keep up the good work.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Scott, I appreciate your candor very much! Thank you!
@daledrolet13323 жыл бұрын
HI Scott. Your comment here are right on point! Totally agree. To me, these type of reviews are an opportunity for companies to improve their products. As a former purchaser for a hardware company, I often wondered why we had high returns on certain products. These type of reviews would have helped us improve and make changes to products and improve the quality.
@knifeswitch59733 жыл бұрын
This is why I come here. No BS. Though it sucks for you, it’s a wonderful tool for us. I live (by choice) out in small town America and we just can’t drive over to the local hifi shop to audition gear. Nice to be able to come here and get some straight shooting.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
We try to keep it 100 all the time.
@knifeswitch59733 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews and you do one hell of a good job
@ruk2023--3 жыл бұрын
You say no BS, but Andew hates all the B&W products he reviews, and loves all the Yamaha AS line of amplifiers, which I personally think sound average to good so you might be getting no BS but you are getting a load of BiaS.
@pastorrogerpatton79329 ай бұрын
I’m late to the game and just picked these up as an affordable upgrade to a hifi turntable system and I gotta say these speakers are legit! It works for all kinds of music. Loud rock, soft folk, blues, jazz, all of it. Any volume and honestly any placement. I do have sensitive hearing and don’t like anything shrill. There’s nothing shrill about these speakers. Smooth and clear and full! I did biwire with 12g new wire. I hooked them up to A and B channels on a Marantz pm6007 and my source is a new Technics SL 1500c. Couldn’t be happier!
@FrankySilverFace3 жыл бұрын
I'm over 55 with 15% hearing loss in my L ear 5% in the right. I've had the 606 for about 2 years (among other brands new and old). I pair the 606s with a Yamaha 801 and for me I really like the fact I can now hear things I've never heard before. Usually I run both channels/4 speakers of different makes and models and add a sub. I appreciate the tone controls on the Yamaha because sometimes the brightness is even too much for me. Its crazy how we all don't like the same things. And with that I thank you for your channels honesty.
@JamaicaSocial3 жыл бұрын
Andrew spent too much time trying to convince himself that what he heard wasn't a mess... This was a bit hard to watch... Your job is to review speakers and Bowers to make them better. Audio is subjective and there will be a spectrum from 1-10 on these. So what if Bowers is upset? Honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. TOO MANY reviewers kiss up to the big brands like they're feeding them, and its quite sad. Keep being honest for your viewers, INTEGRITY is everything!!!!!!
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
I understand the point you are trying to make but as you can see by the comments, people not just B&W, feel VERY strongly about this and their own beliefs. Had we not made every effort to confirm our findings, it would be even worse. Despite the lengths gone to in order to make certain the speakers weren’t broken not to mention reaching out to BW for comment, viewers still attack our credibility and integrity. We knew this would happen going in because that IS the nature of people and this business.
@JamaicaSocial3 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright this is why being a CEO or President of the USA or any form of leader is such a tough job, because at some point you're gonna be forced to make a call and live with it and it may be unpopular. BUT do you do it for fear of a handful of people or do you just DO THE RIGHT THING... Kristi you and Andrew have to sleep at nights with a clear conscience, and the money and fans will come and go, but be comforted by the fact that you did your honest doing.... Remember, despite all the good Jesus did, there were many who still hated him. Many reviewers on here wanna be everybody's friend and they enjoy living in that gray area of just asking questions, but not definitely saying what they truly think about the product, for fear if a negative feedback and brands not sending them products giving them perks and access. We the viewers don't want vague assumptions, we wanna know your genuine experience with the product and if it sucks SAY IT and hold your head up high because you told the TRUTH.
@MattRichardsonX3 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a negative review, and I'm a B&W fanboy.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
So are we.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
I assure you Matt I did not set out to make a negative review. This was a complete shock to me. I appreciate you watching!
@billymartin87523 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate your Honor, Courage, and Commitment to Excellence and Integrity! Your Core Values and standards reflect the very reason I seek your opinions and reviews! Thank you. Very respectfully, Billy P. Martin
@davidcoatessr45973 жыл бұрын
Andrew and Christy I am so proud of you guys being honest I will continue falling you and reviewing you on KZbin thank you very much take care
@Pilot5973 жыл бұрын
I’ve been following your channel for around a year already and I must say that you guys don’t have to apologize for slaughtering a bad product specially when the manufacturer seems to be proud of their poor work and if Bowers decides not to send you any other products for review because of this one then they are the ones who loose the chance to have their gear being seen by the almost 200K of us who follows this channel.
@hendrikkotze438 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my pair. To be honest what you described is exactly what I experienced before burn in. Its only after a few weeks of listening where the 606s came to life.
@adrianking88713 жыл бұрын
Honesty is the best policy. Don't worry guys, BnW are not likely to black list you for one accurate and honest review. Lol Real and honest reviews are are always worth listening to and are more thought provoking than same stuff different day product reviews. This was far more interesting than biased opinion based on preference from brand loyalty or sponsor driven buzz. You two got real and i like it. Keep up the great work , you two are awesome.
@Chris_the_Dickens3 жыл бұрын
I think you handled the review perfectly. Buying 2 pair of speakers and contacting the manufacturer directly to discuss. Couldn't be more fair than that!
@colossusrageblack3 жыл бұрын
You guys act like you shot someone's dog. It's a bad speaker, it happens, just keep up the honesty.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Just doing our best to be professional. When we really love something, it’s all “paid review” in the comments. If we had dropped the hammer on this speaker with a smile on our face and a Parks & Rec clip of Ron throwing his computer in the trash, I don’t think that would have gone over very well either. Which leaves me feeling like the goal posts are constantly moving.
@colossusrageblack3 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright I get it, keep it up.
@cheapaudioman3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honesty and I know that in your position this can be a difficult thing to do. In the end you're the customer. They're your speakers and everyone gets to have their unique experience and opinions. I've actually tried to get a pair of these in and haven't had any luck. My experience with much higher end B/W's left me a bit curious about their more affordable offerings. As always, great job and thanks for your candor. I'm a bit treble sensitive and it would appear that these probably wouldn't be the speaker for me.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy. I have been a fan and customer of the brand for years, and while I have noticed changes over the years, nothing prepared me for this. If you're treble sensitive or like Audioslave (I know you do) avoid this speaker.
@StellarAudyssey3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews The only solution for this, is a Between Two Speakers part 2 haha
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarAudyssey Randy is trying to make that happen. I might let him...if he keeps being good 😂
@cheapaudioman3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews it’s funny. I actually pulled out that record on the my Andover video that went up today. I’m really sensitive around the 2k-4K ranges and when Kristi mentioned Alanis and sibilance I know exactly what you were hearing. Some of her recordings lean that way anyway but if a speaker is prone to that then it will definitely be on display.
@yvesboutin56043 жыл бұрын
Please, don't try to apologize for an honest review! B&W is known for decades to have a peculiar sound, some people likes it, some people don't. I tweaked many speakers in my day and many 'Hi-fi' products are nasty. Stand by your opinions! That's why those kind of channels are so important to the audiophile community. Keep up the good work!
@decoryder3 жыл бұрын
Yep, bought these at BB, hooked em up and after about 15 minutes of critical listening my ears literally started aching - packed 'em up and returned them the same day. Really disappointing that some other reviewers are hyping what is obviously a crappy speaker design.
@HomeTheatre1013 жыл бұрын
You should have broken them in first. Put nearly 70 hours through mine and they smoothed out quite a bit in the high frequencies along with also beefy low end extension.
@decoryder3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeTheatre101 35 years of buying and listening to many speakers, with only one exception I have never observed any so called 'break in' - I've had the original 600's for almost 10 years, and they were great, the 606S2's simply don't live up to the B&W name.
@atulnsingh3 жыл бұрын
First speaker review where the reviewer is telling that the sound is a mess and that it can be ignored. Bravo. Kudos. Respect.
@Taffy843 жыл бұрын
Audio Science Review said the same thing about the 607 so he is not the first.
@photoipster3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest content. Almost every manufacturer has something a reviewer can praise, but jot with every product. 4 times over the last 20 years I’ve done everything I could to try to buy b&w, but simply couldn’t get them to easily create the timbre, timing and soundstage I desired. As gut wrenching as this review seemed to be for you two, I applaud your heart and honesty. Thank you.
@F1fletch3 жыл бұрын
I had to put down the pizza slice, wash my hands and write this review of your review. THIS is why you are one of the top three reviewers in all of KZbin Land…full stop. You are not only about as unbiased as they come, but you have tact and respect in your presentation. Especially when it comes to the “Big Brands”, they deserve the same level of scrutiny..maybe more because they are the big dogs. I have personally heard and agreed with your reviews (RP-8000f) for example. I believe we share sonic tastes, at least to some degree. If B&W want to release a speaker and stand by it’s ultra revealing and ultra bright signature and claim; “this is the way we like it, we did this on purpose”. Cool for them, a C- is a C- is doesn’t matter who’s work it was. I would let you grade my work because I feel you are fair, bring intellect, passion and you are FAIR. Bravo to both of you!!
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
The pizza bit had me laughing.
@jim0101093 жыл бұрын
Believe me when I say this. This review is why I watch your reviews. I want honesty, and sometimes a Company doesn't get it right or they change things that doesn't work for everyone. And if this review closes doors for you, then that tells me that those Companies are not being true to their customers. By being honest and candid, you gained my trust even more. At my age, I'm over people telling me what they think I want to hear. Your honesty is greatly appreciated. Keep up the great work.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim. Appreciate your candor and for giving us a moment of your time this morning! Be well!
@markboccaccio3 жыл бұрын
I applaud Andrew for giving it to us straight. I’m so tired of every review in a audio magazine now being positive in the extreme.
@cameronkrause47122 жыл бұрын
Yes, Danny at GR Research pulled the 607's apart and they were pretty much garbage. The crossover used 1st order filters which are totally inappropriate for the drivers that Bowers is using. The boxes have way too much resonance and the frequency response of the speaker is very messy. And Andrew and Kristi gave these speakers a very fair try out.
@carlosaguilar67432 жыл бұрын
Dany usually updates all the speakers that falls on his hands is His Business 😬😆
@BrandonRose-km1ze Жыл бұрын
As a long time B&W fan with the 600 's in my home. I love hearing a honest review. You have the amazing position of testing and listening many different builds. I just realized why my wife is always telling me to turn the B&Ws down . When she even loves to listen to loud music. It all makes sense now! THANK YOU!
@xujie48993 жыл бұрын
As a new owner of the 607 S2, the high can be fairly easily adjusted to your taste, by turning down the treble slightly on the tonal control of your amplifier. I think the midrange and bass are gorgeous, and the transparency and details are phenomenal.
@juliotirado49653 жыл бұрын
Wow finally somebody’s being honest and not being a salesman
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Hey don’t forget to click on our links in the description.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
😂
@jaredhylton65913 жыл бұрын
Well played!!!
@Jonziebal3 жыл бұрын
Have loved B&W for two decades. Keep your honesty and keep detailing your personal journey. It brings authenticity and real insight into *your* review process and final result. I commend you for taking your authenticity to the correct level, despite possible deprecations.
@alanmcivor29163 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. I hope it shames the reviewers that say "I never publish a negative review". They are basically saying "I don't care if the consumer is screwed over". Good work Robinsons!
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching, Alan. RE: Shaming - That is not the goal here. Other reviewers have to do what works for them. This was simply our experience.
@t8500shx3 жыл бұрын
Wow, pretty surprising to see a negative review 😱 Glad someone has the guts to actually give a negative review if a product warrants it 👍🏼
@lloydbrown32233 жыл бұрын
Andrew, thank you for your honest and subjective review. I appreciate the time you put into these. To anybody wasting their time with a negative post, get over it. It's a speaker review on KZbin, and he may have a point!
@thomass.91673 жыл бұрын
As a sort of psychological study, it is quite intriguing that so many people seem to be offended by a product they would never buy anyway, the subjective opinions of two people in Texas, the presumed acting skills of two people in Texas, the assumed bribes and shenanigans that go on behind the scenes, their feeling of being forced to watch a video on the internet, and their sense of entitlement not being fulfilled. And to imagine all this is free of charge…
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Are you not entertained!
@thomass.91673 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Indeed…by your videos. The more I read comments, the more I sympathize with John Darko, who shut down the comments for some time for this very reason.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Hey that’s my line. Goddammit YT for not allowing GIFs.
@keithhorton49903 жыл бұрын
After reading a ton of non sense, I don't know how they do it and not shut off the damn comment section. But I have the luxury (?) of not having a popular YT channel, so what do I know 🙂
@michaelbdougherty3 жыл бұрын
Blown away. I’ve found your reviews and Zero Fidelity’s really reliable so wasn’t expecting such a divide on a product like this. He typically hates B&W but liked the 607s, and he’s usually not at all into a hyperactive high end. Thanks for the review.
@michaelbdougherty3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I just looked back at Zero’s review and you both basically heard it the same, but he suggested very specific pairing information to get the best out of the 607s.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Had we found an amplifier than helped correct the tweeter’s high end frequency issues, we would have absolutely shared that information with you. From our perspective, we went out of our way to find a solution that would benefit this speaker. After all, we put something like 6 different amplifiers to these two speakers (the 606 and 607) to no avail. Once B&W confirmed that they did not see system matching (beyond a 30W recommendation) as a requirement to get the best from these speakers, we moved on. I have no idea what Sean used in his review process so I won’t speak to that. I believe that if this issue we found was correctable, we’d have found a way and we simply did not. Sean claims that he got used to sound after time. We did not. It’s that simple.
@michaelbdougherty3 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright Yeah, I was grateful for your perspective and could tell it was obviously a disappointment. I’m normally with Sean in liking more relaxed, controlled and warm sound signatures so was surprised he opened up to this. Anyway, love what you do. You guys got me really hyped for the Technics, I think that might be our living room endgame.
@tw96683 жыл бұрын
@MB D @Kristi Wright - In Sean's review, he did mentioned the speakers are not for everyone. Even Sean himself needs several days to slowly "get used to" the sound signature. It is a subtle way to say the speakers' high frequency response is boosted beyond most other speakers he reviewed.
@v3rni3sgaming143 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting, how one person's reasons to buy this speaker is another's to hate it! I actually bought these speakers after comparing to the 707, KEF's LS50w and some Monitor Audios, just because of how punchy and crispy they sound and I haven't looked back. In fact, everyone who visited me while i had all these side by side to decide also told me hands down they liked the 606 in a blind test. Now, I think that may be down to matching with the rest of the system, as well as the particular type of my living room, which due to the shape is very bassy, so it might be compensating for that. This would mean that in a different type of space it would sound much different, who knows?
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
So long as you're happy, that is ALL that matters!
@TechWiz19833 жыл бұрын
With this review you’ve gained my respect and have truly confirmed that I subbed to the right channel. Really appreciate what you do; and have now turned on the bell icon so I never miss a video. Thank-you very much for the time and effort you put in to your content. Much appreciated! Hope you have a wonderful day.
@TechWiz19833 жыл бұрын
@Bob I wasn’t born yesterday and couldn’t be further from naive. You sound like the gullible type that has that ‘sheep’ mentality. Loyal to trash no matter how trashy it is.
@michaelsimone92372 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard the 606S2 speakers in several settings (retail and home), and I was very pleased with the way they performed. Have listed to them paired with a Rega Brio Amp and a Bluesound Powernode (N330), and I found them very engaging and dynamic. Of course, every listener must decided for themselves, but to me they were fantastic performers.
@nickbryant6970 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people will miss out on a incredible pair of speakers for around 800$ listening to this review. Break these in and those harsh highs dissappear.
@ewizzle2 Жыл бұрын
Pairing them with the right amps is also crucial. The Rotel amps do very well with these.
@naqqashsharif5561 Жыл бұрын
The big power Yamahas as well. The variable loudness does wonders to tame brighter recordings. Pair them with a subwoofer and these are just so articulate and rhythmic.
@GR8Tmate Жыл бұрын
@@ewizzle2 Do you think the Encel Brains (made by Rotel) would go alright with these. I think it’s only 40amps / channel, from memory. I have just downsized into a new home , whilst I await Rigor Mortis to set in. I have a small room I was hoping to pair up the brains with a small set of bookshelves & my trust turntable……… but starting to think I should consider something else. 🤔
@julije494910 ай бұрын
@@ewizzle2 I recently bought a pair of these speakers at a great price and was thinking of pairing them with a Marantz PM6007 what do you think about that amp?
@tlhuffman3 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings about this review. On the one hand, I commend you for your willingness to be honest, even when being honest means offering a negative review. This is shockingly rare in the audio community. On the other hand, I wish you didn't feel the need to fall all over yourself apologizing for doing it. If you did due diligence and then offered an honest and accurate evaluation you have nothing to regret. Good work.
@jimgardner51293 жыл бұрын
Is Andrew perhaps Canadian? We tend to apologize and say "sorry" a lot. :)
@GoreBurnelli3 жыл бұрын
If you are suffering from hearing loss, this is the speaker for you - Andrew That sounds as harsh as you describe the speaker. Truthfully, it makes me value your reviews even more.
@richardhogg84742 жыл бұрын
I have the 606 S2 and the 606 to me they sound excellent with my Yamaha Yamaha A-S701BL Natural Sound Integrated Stereo Amplifier. I am very happy with the way they sound.
@naqqashsharif5561 Жыл бұрын
I have the same combo and I agree. After some burn-in, the match is excellent and not tiring. The sound is stirring.
@brianlewis50423 жыл бұрын
I had to watch this a couple of times and I thank you and Kristi’s point of view. It was a tough to watch you try to find something you liked about these speakers. Your honesty is the what makes your channel great.
@jeffwinney36733 жыл бұрын
It took me a day or two to get to this one. I come to your channel (and others) for several reasons, but the MAIN reason is your honest opinion on gear and design. I am not looking for an ad for certain products. If I wanted a 'yes man' I'd just go to these companies' websites. Certainly we understand the fact that a product will miss the target once and a while. I am surprised it doesn't happen more often. Keep up the amazing work. Move along, haters. Nothing to see here. :)
@lesmatthews4593 жыл бұрын
I think the reason we all watch you is for your honesty! AND you've never let us down!!
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you, Les.
@davidwho7847 Жыл бұрын
It's about time someone told the truth about these speakers. Thank you Andrew.
@grahamd54185 ай бұрын
The only truth about these speakers are what you hear. Nobody else.
@Ebergerud3 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of 606s two months ago and like them a lot. I took your advice - I figured my 70+ year old ears wouldn't be too concerned with the speaker being "too bright." My collection is 100% classical. I'm also using a standard AV receiver. Perfectly happy.
@andrewthomascliftonvisuals3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being open and honest and raw with us. Both of you. If Bowers and Wilkins pulls the plug on sending you things because you don’t post smiley reviews when the product hits you this way then its their loss. We very much still believe in you both and all that you do. Thank you again
@rawirig3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I demoed these side by side with Dali Oberon 1s and thought they sounded terrible compared to the Dalis. When I looked online I couldn't understand why these speakers were getting such glowing reviews.
@timobi_16043 жыл бұрын
Good review Andrew & bravo for being honest & giving us your impressions. I appreciate your candor & you could see it in your face there was no joy in your results. You can see the disappointment., Thx again for the review. This is why I subscribe. 👍
@bazjed58813 жыл бұрын
I think you have summoned up my feelings re this review. 👌
@osliverpool3 жыл бұрын
Enormous respect for your honesty, thank you.
@joshdekubber36313 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for your honest opinion! I value your thoughts and trust your judgment based on the experience I have had with your reviews! I can't put a price on the value of the information you have given me in my hifi Journey! To say I appreciate you both is an understatement!
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Well we appreciate you too Josh and thank you for your comment. Be well!
@joepop81223 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an honest review. I’m sure it’s tough to do when you depend on manufacturers sending you equipment to review. Speaks to your integrity.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
We're always honest with you guys, but no lie, it's difficult to do this job when you know you can't just buy all the gear you need to bring you guys the content you're hungry for.
@joepop81223 жыл бұрын
@Bob Well it would be a boring world without naive dolts like myself.
@I-Libertine3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Guys, you are killin it. I love, love, love the bonus convo with Kristi. The mix of humor, expertise and huge heart make yours my favorite series on KZbin. Membership, here I come. What y'all do is harder work than it seems- on so many levels. And I truly appreciate every bit of it.
@Shoebutie3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a reviewer go out on a limb for the subscriber and not simply stay silent when they hear a speaker they do not like. Not everyone will agree. But at least you gave an opinion and I think that is fabulous
@theautumnalcyclist76293 жыл бұрын
I auditioned six speakers during my purchase and among them were 606's. I auditioned fyne, linn, focal, dali and as part of the process I brought along my wife as a neutral, she had no knowledge of price or which I was leaning towards, I also used my own amp. She rounded it down to the linn and Bowers and when I then told her the price difference we opted 606's. I would like to add I could of had any one but I've never regretted my choice.
@EntropyConcept2 жыл бұрын
👍
@antonchigurh41253 жыл бұрын
I gave you both a thumbs-up for an honest appraisal of these speakers which made a refreshing change. I thought your criticisms were well argued and delivered with passion rather than malice. Well done both of you. And yes, I am a B&W speaker owner..
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Anton, I really appreciate you saying that. Kristi and I wanted to ensure, despite the negative tone of the review overall, that we were respectful of B&W as much as possible but also respectful to you, the viewer. It would've been easier to just rant or "go off" and let our emotions dictate the tone, but we knew going that route wouldn't do you all justice.
@jerryn562 жыл бұрын
Everything said about the 606 S2 is the opposite of my experience. I bought mine a year ago, and they have ended a 50 year quest for the most ideal sound I can afford. Speakers so satisfying that I no longer feel compelled to buy more and more, in search of the holy grail. I might as well unsubscribe from your channel. It seems what you hate, I love, so your reviews would apparently be meaningless to me. I don't care what the trying to be cool crowd thinks. I only care what I hear, and it sounds amazing to me.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
I am happy that you're happy, that is ALL that matters. If that means we lose you as a subscriber, I have to be okay with that, for all I want for everyone who watches this channel is for them to be happy with their setup. I hope you'll hang around, but you have to do what works for you.
@pearceclayton84982 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Andrew does make the point that older ears may find this speaker palatable because of the hearing loss that older listeners (you mention 50 year quest....) experience. I find myself having to give some lift to the HF these days, but I would rather do that to a neutral loudspeaker that does everything right in the first place. The voicing of speakers is a subjective subject because each brand has a market. B&W at the lower end of their range are a lifestyle brand and consequently may target a younger audience who may value perceived 'dynamics' over authenticity. Ironically it is they who will suffer the HF excesses of this speaker more than us older folks. This is the equivalent of turning up the colour and brightness in the TV showroom. So sad to see B&W doing adopting a voicing over authenticity. But they have to sell speakers and if that makes them enough money to get it right higher up their range then that is perhaps their strategy. I do, however, see a problem when a company like B&W is owned by a holding interest that is nearly always interested in putting profits first.
@jerryn562 жыл бұрын
@@pearceclayton8498 I still hear sibilance if it's there. There's a difference in sibilance and clarity. There's plenty of speakers and even more headphones that have sibilance to me. Here's a few things I've learned from my 50 years of being a hi fi geek. What you eat effect how things sound. Your blood sugar level effects how things sound. If you've been sick things won't sound as good for awhile, and often become sibilent. I've seldom listened to music very loud, because sound quality means so much to me. I've heard this weird debate over these speakers and just don't get it. There's plenty of critics that have raved about them. All I'm really saying is based on the huge abyss in our opinions of these speakers, maybe I wouldn't like much of what Andrew does, and wouldn't dare invest a lot of money into them. So hopefully this wasn't a calculated move that critics often do to sound smarter than the masses by hating what the unwashed like. Andrew says you'd never be able to enjoy Diana Krall on these speakers. That's one of my favorites to really hear them sing! I've owned warm speakers and brilliant ones. Soft done and aluminum. I hear the differences, and appreciate them both. But to me, the treble and midrange are very important, and the 606 do them amazingly well, and the bass is more detailed that all but very few speakers I've heard. The continum cone is a masterpiece. I've also been around the audio world enough to recognize the politics among the fans and critics. Just live and let live. Enjoy what you like. At least Andrew was kind enough to say that.
@charlesaldous53892 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of 603 floorstanders and an HTM6 centre and love them all. I hear no sibilance at all and have always loved more treble than not, as a 'warm' sound to me, sounds muffled and dull. (No, there's nothing wrong with my hearing!) But of course Andrew, you're welcome to your own personal view, of course you are! What kind of world would it be, if we all agreed on the same things?
@jerryn562 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews just to be clear, I wasn't saying I might unsubscribe because I'm offended or trying to throw a tantrum. It just I haven't seen you review much that I've had experience with. Then, I find this dismissive review on the speakers I love the most and have a year of experience with, I have to wonder the value of watching any more of your videos for audio product guidance. You seem like a great guy and none of my concerns are personal, just practical. By the way, I spent yesterday afternoon listening to my 606s keeping in mind what you had said, but came away even more in love with them. 🙂 I'll keep watch you videos, I'm just baffled on this one.
@jeffwright61292 жыл бұрын
I watched this review before I went and tried these speakers out for myself at my local audio shop. I couldn’t be any happier with my purchase. I have them set up in a 3.2x3.2m insulated room with a 1.8x1.5m double glazed window - on the matching B&W stands 500mm from the back and side wall as recommended. After playing them for around 50 hours with various types of music they’ve really opened up. They’re a bit on the bright side, as the 600 S2 series is (I have a set of 603 S2’s in my main living area) but they don’t seem aggressively bright to me. I find them very accurate with that beautiful B&W sound and they do pack a good punch in the lower end too. I’m not using these on ‘high end’ gear either. I’m Using an early 00’s Yamaha AX-596 Natural Sound Stereo amplifier as a preamp into a Rotel RB1582 power amplifier. I have been sitting and playing them for many hours at a time and I haven’t found them fatiguing. I’d recommend to anyone thinking about these speakers to go and try them for yourself with similar gear to what you use at home and decide for yourself before purchasing. It might be a bad experience like it was for Andrew or it might be an incredible one like mine. Love these speakers!
@simonleger91102 жыл бұрын
I've had my b&w 607 speakers for over a year now. I absolutely adore them. As I still live with my parents, I have them in my rather small bedroom and I find they fill the room wonderfully. When I eventually move out and add to my set-up, I'm definitely sticking with Bowers & Wilkins!
@namelessmusik43452 жыл бұрын
I realy think has tested them right out of the box without letting them play for a while... I realy can't understand his video after also been in a hifi Store and comparing so many speaker
@gordoa1723 жыл бұрын
My hats off to You Madam and Sir. Your honesty is much appreciated by your loyal audience. Your claims are valid because you are consumers that care. Your integrity is showing - and we thank you for it.
@tomkershaw43843 жыл бұрын
I have learned not to get too excited about anything labeled "ANNIVERSARY".
@wfranklin9903 жыл бұрын
Usually just an excuse to re-badge and jack up the price.
@adriankinsler15043 жыл бұрын
I want honest reviews, the good bad and the ugly truth. Great work.
@gordyomolaiye77852 жыл бұрын
This review is nothing but an over the top drama filled personal opinion. I have these speakers and they sound awesome to me. In fact one of the best bookshelf speakers I have heard at this price point. Always audition, draw your own conclusions rather than hang on to what others or any expert for that matter has to say regarding any music reproducing component. Trust your own ears.
@alexroot19802 жыл бұрын
I got the feeling that he just got bitter coz he didn't get the sample review... That's all.
@TorontoJon3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andrew and Kristi, for your honest reviews of these Bowers & Wilkins 605 S2 speakers. Regardless of whether or not a product is good or bad or lives up to your expectations, I respect your in-depth reviews always and if anything, I have even more respect for your reviews when, in all honesty, you cannot recommend a product because they have missed the mark. As you stated, those are always much tougher reviews to make or to film, particularly when you have gone out of your way to pair these specific speakers with different amplifiers, etc. or to attempt to hammer out any issues. You did everything you could possibly do. So, thank you and keep up the great work.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Jon.
@kenohanrahan47453 жыл бұрын
Open KZbin, new AR vid, first in, cuppa tea in hand ... happy days.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
You may need two cups after this. Thanks for tuning in this morning Ken!
@kenohanrahan47453 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honesty and effort in this review, critical analysis and not just opinion. Thanks for all the work you both put into these, I really enjoy them 👍
@MatthewMcGowan3 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate the honesty and integrity demonstrated in this video. You could have easily shilled a mixed review to maintain your relationship with B&W, but instead placed your reputation and editorial independence above all. Also, thank you for airing the ethical quandary you both felt about how to review these speakers. That kind of ethical torment over saying something negative about something you love is something I as a Canadian deeply identify with. Andrew, Kristie: I think you both became honourary Canadians in this video 😁🇨🇦
@nc34193 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the negative review, I will only look at the positives... I don't own them.
@joaosalvador43273 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for one of the first honest reviews about these speakers. This move from B&W towards extremely agressive high frequencies started at the top level with the 800's D. Some say, about the same time they move from being a top hifi manufacturer to a luxury furniture manufacturer. Listen to these speakers a few month ago. The sibilance is unnaceptable and ruins most female vocals on regular recordings. The guy from B&W is being sincere: this is the way they want these speakers to sound. These speakers stand out from their competitors for having a much more aggressive sound and appearing at first sight more transparent and detailed. In fact what happens is that they are very unbalanced speakers where the tweeter seems to have a boost of 6db or more. It's a bit like the TVs that are on display in a store and are set to full brightness. I've been a B&W fan for over 30 years but I have to recognize that in the last decade, in most cases, the sound quality no longer matches the status and price of the equipment. Thanks for the review.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
I'd say you bugged our house because I'm pretty sure I've said the same thing during the review process of these speakers. Thanks for watching!
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinsonreviews HAHA, we literally had this exact conversation.
@dazaudio21313 жыл бұрын
What makes the other reviews dishonest ?
@SeanVedell3 жыл бұрын
Your honesty is refreshing, especially since you clearly struggle with having to deliver the bad news. That you did it anyway means a lot to us watching your channel for valid insight into products that we may end up putting real money down for. It’s not your fault that these speakers ever saw the light of day. I’ll never hear them but your visceral reaction tells me they sound as bad as you’re saying. Brand fans will defend them because that’s what brand fans do but it always amazes me when a company known for excellence falls so far from the mark set by their place in the market and their history. Did a new guy take over that’s a great company builder but doesn’t know audio? Did they have a bunch of fan boy engineers get their way and now they can’t lose face? Clearly they’ve forgotten the only thing that matters and that’s that what comes out of that box is the product. Not the box or the binding posts or the veneer. Fix that. Make that great and I’ll live with a lot of other compromises. Now, where’s the Paradigm review? What else could you be hinting at for the past week or so?
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear (in case it wasn’t), we are big B&W fans. According to Mr Kerr the same group responsible for products we liked (Duo and 702 Sig) are behind these. Paradigm continues to ignore our emails. It’s not them.
@SeanVedell3 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright I’m sorry, I didn’t clearly include that you both being longtime fans of the brand also made this review even harder to do. I have no criticism of the review. I think it was just as informative as any other, maybe even more so because it may have cost you both an important association. My musings about how they got released were just that, me wondering out loud. I have no knowledge of the people at that company. This review makes me trust Andrew’s opinion even more because I know he’ll say something sucks if it does and he’ll explain why. Bravo!
@Monsux3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the honest review. Keep up the good work. I'm super sensitive to high frequencies and I was thinking of buying these speakers or 607 S2. You two saved me a lot of time, money, and headage. I do like BW as a company and I hope they understand that reviews are reviews. If you don't like something... You should always tell that to consumers. If BW puts you on some blacklist. Then I'll blacklist the company that started my audio hobby 20 years ago.
@WikingBoer2 жыл бұрын
I've had the non-anniversary version of the 606 paired with Marantz PM6006 for a few years now, and I've never regretted my choice. Generally listen to 70s music (Queen, Jethro Tull, Abba) but predominantly Metal and I've never experienced fatigue or felt that the high end is too bright. In fact, I prefer the brightness...it makes the experience more engaging. But perhaps that's why this is all very subjective. When I first got it I gave it a solid 50hrs of play-in and it's been smooth sailing ever since. I'm actually pretty surprised that these speakers gave you guys such a terrible listening experience, that's really unfortunate - My wife and I just had a much much different experience. Thanks for the review though.
@adamtaylor96173 жыл бұрын
Don't stress guys. If Bowers and Wilkins can't take criticism, they have no business being in business. A friend of.mine got the last generation and didn't like them either. I just showed him this, and he described them as a bad " Wish Bluetooth speaker with tight bass."
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@anthonytube3 жыл бұрын
So no-one like to call out the mega brand and for me I'm a fan and live literally 5 minutes from the factory in Worthing... However I bought a pair of 606's (non anniversary) and what struck me out of the box was the very lightweight build quality of the cabinet and the basic 90's Aiwa finish. I just bought some little Wharfedale diamonds at the same time and they had way more heft but I do love the simple, clean look of the front baffle. Anyways after setting them up I found the speaker really, really bright even at minimal volume. I gave them some run in time but still very bright and they get harsh as the volume increases. I now don't really listen to them that much as a result even though I love the sound stage and the bass. Another thing that surprised me... I just happened to peer into the back with my flashlight one day and a part of the magnet is chipped off from the factory!
@jonmason19553 жыл бұрын
I so enjoy Kristi's contributions, especially here. That you both are so on the same page with this, is remarkable. The female ear for sound is quite different than the male. That you, Andrew gave this honest and untempered hard review (as is your usual) is "sweet"! It's as If one of your best friends let you down. Aaaaand.....though it may be true, Mr. Kerrr gave a typical corporate review not really delving into your consumer concerns as a long time advocate of the B&W products.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jon!
@isaacsykes33 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Robinson, please do not lose any sleep over this review, I for one have always appreciated your candor, and would not want you to sacrifice your integrity over a product. I also do not want you getting ill again( I've been a fan of yours a long time) and care more about you than any product. If Sound United want to stop sending you products because of this, I say let them...it honestly says more about them than you. I encourage you and your wife to keep doing the great work that you're known for a good things will happen. Every product isn't great, or great for everyone, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that, especially when it's your honest experience and opinion. I hope that you are Kristi stay well, be safe and we look forward to the next video. 😊 ✊🏿🙏🏿
@theautumnalcyclist76293 жыл бұрын
I auditioned six different speakers varying from fyne, focal, linn and Dali among them. During this process I also had a neutral observer ie the wife, who was not really interested. So during this process I kept the material the same and kept my wife ignorant of my preference and price. As we went through the process the Linn 109's rose to the top..... until we auditioned the 606 S2! At which point my wife couldn't decide until I told her the price difference!
@nuclearhotel21723 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being brave enough to post an honesty negative review.
@soulafein323 жыл бұрын
Bought a pair, sold them 2 months later. Overpriced, overrated. Very happy with my Silver 100 from Monitor Audio.
@ClearSmoke1003 жыл бұрын
It's funny how people have all kinds of excuse for why he didn't like the speakers like break in or where he placed them or what he paired with them. Some even going as far as saying well reviewer "x" liked them blah blah blah. You mean the same reviewers who said they would never do a negative review. Andrew has been in the game over 20 years and he has more equipment than any of us watching his reviews to match the speakers with. It's funny because when he drops a positive review nobody questions him. He went out and bought these speakers not sent too him for review and dropped an honest review. This is what I hate about so called audiophiles they try and act like every product is good there not. Yes someone may like these speakers but just like a car they all do the same thing but some cars just suck even if someone will buy it.
@jaredliriano95553 жыл бұрын
This video did not hurt B&Ws credibility for me, but it bolstered yours. Refreshing to see reviews that aren't afraid to tell the truth even while trying to be as positive as possible. Appreciate both your inputs on these speakers.
@brown-eyedman40403 жыл бұрын
You've earned a subscription from me based on this review. I learned in management that the hardest thing to do is give a bad performance review and I'm sure thats equally true in review hifi equipment. My experience with the B&W 606s was the same as yours. These speakers are just bright and forward sounding. Curious abouth the sound of the Elac Carinas. Thanks for being bold enough to say what you felt about these speakers. If you've earned the wrath of B&W so be it. Your viewers deserve your honest opinion.
@billw_mtb3220 Жыл бұрын
No need to be apologetic. Not every product is a home run from every company. It’s reviews like this that let me know that I can trust that you are not biased.
@lyndoncoleman87373 жыл бұрын
I auditioned the 606 S2s about a month ago, after all the 10/10 and 5/5 reviews online. I had to ask the demonstrator to turn them off after 3 tracks. They didn't evoke just a negative physical response, but a negative emotional response. I felt irritated agitated, I'd go as far to say angry. You review has validated how I felt, as both yourself and your good wife suffered a similar response to these speakers. I thought I was missing something, or somehow ignorant in some way as I had the complete opposite reaction to all the online HiFi reviewers giving these speakers top scores. Thanks for the totally honest review Regards Lyndon
@sungkim7423 жыл бұрын
I listened to the 607 anniversary and it had the best bass I ever head from a bookshelf speaker. The bass was musical, articulate, tight, and drove the music. The midbass was beautiful. The highs were emphasize. Symbols and hihats took center stage. These speakers are made for certain kind of music like classical and jazz. They're not really for long term listening with rock.
@grandmasterjo13 жыл бұрын
I’ve been brought up with the sound of the BnW 802 ( which I could not afford ) in the 80’s. My greatest respect for BnW was high up there. I was looking at buying the anniversary edition 600 series towers recently and heard them at the BnW store in Mumbai india. I was shocked, what I heard was far from BnW standards Ofcourse I did not trust the person demoing with the source he used. I insisted a change of source and amp. Sadly I walked out disappointed I could not believe what I heard It simply did not have the BnW character. Am glad someone actually agreed with this. The good part is I can still trust my ears 😀😀
@rsolsjo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your integrity. This is never easy, especially when it's your livelihood, but it's important to not give people the wrong pretenses. And maybe someone loves the way these sound, but it's good to know that you can go in cautiously at least.
@andrewrobinsonreviews3 жыл бұрын
I know people love these speakers and I am not here to change their minds. You should always listen and decide for yourself, for this speaker proves different strokes for different folks.
@tw96683 жыл бұрын
Let's summarize it: - There are very, very few negative reviews. Most reviewers DO NOT bite the hands that feed them. Simply fear of being black listed. Andrew is not shy about he may suffer the consequence. - A lot of reviewers, if you pay attention, choose their words very carefully. Some weaknesses would be described with some vague terms that most would simply gloss over them. So even if the reviewers don't care so much about the products, you many not even know it. - Speakers (or HiFi listening in general) is quite subjective. Some reviewers love these speakers, and some not so much, are evidence. The only thing that matters is whether YOU like it or not. - Andrew has been reviewing audio gears for a very long time so most of the basic factors would have been considered (electronics, placement, listening environment, music type, etc.) and he obviously would not jump to a negative conclusion lightly - He has been rather successful as an KZbinr in the last couple years so there is NO need to post an attention grabbing review to gain more subscribers. - A lot of thought was put into the review and he had given Bowers and Wilkins a chance to respond, rather than simply post it as a "surprise". As a consumer of these reviews, I always take each one with a grain of salt. I think everyone should reserve their judgement considering all the facts and circumstances, and keep things civilized and objective.
@KristiWright3 жыл бұрын
This is far too measured to be in the comment section of KZbin. 😅 All joking aside, thank you for saying this.
@Richbroth3 жыл бұрын
@@KristiWright right!?
@JavierMonterodeBlas3 жыл бұрын
The way in which each person perceives the sound is subjective. That's the reason why it is so complicated to understand what means "this sounds good". Both of you try to describe the kind of sound that each piece of something that you test produce and you do that always in the same consistent way. Same objectivities and same subjectivities and in that way we can understand. Good work. We keep listening.
@1959ludo3 жыл бұрын
I was astonished how people can react and the tone they use when they disagree with one’s opinion about a speaker. Where’s the respect to a person who give his opinion. I had the impression that sometimes the reactions were directly to you as a person, For my taste some of reactions crossed the line of human respect. Ok I don’t always agree with you but we have all a personal taste and we have to respect that. Human greetings, Ludo Belgium
@Nuevo_El_Nagual Жыл бұрын
I have BW607 speakers. 100% agree with this review.
@cschruu Жыл бұрын
I‘ve just picked up my pair from my HiFi Dealer. I have been actively looking for a new pair of Bookshelf speakers to replace my ancient Grundig speakers. Last year, i auditioned the Dali Oberon 3 vs. the 606 S2 on a Bluesound Powernode. From that listening I totally agree with your review. In that scenario, the high end was squeeky and they didn’t sound good at all. I almost bought the Dali, but I wanted to listen to more speakers to narrow down my decision. Last week, I went to another store to listen to some bookshelf speakers again. The salesmen instantly suggested the 606 S2 and was astonished by my experience in the other store. So I listened to the ELAC Debut Reference at first, but right afterwards switched to the 606 S2 and the difference was big. The 606 were sounding absolutely stunning, totally different then I remembered. After listening to different genres of music, I bought these speakers. I am in the burn-in process but so far I am really enjoying them coupled to my Cambridge Audio AXR100D. But I can definetly understand where you are coming from.
@raymundschutz48262 жыл бұрын
I've had my pair of 606 anniversary for a couple of months and I am quite happy with them. I listen to jazz, rock and classical music, usually not on high volumes. Room is 8 by 4 metres. I use denon cd and record deck, and yamaha receiver. I guess you should never buy a loudspeaker withou having compared them to other brands. There is a lot to choose from in the market.
@PragmaticTornado2 жыл бұрын
I've had the 607 S2 Anniversarys for a week now (same treble as 606), and I don't get the criticism at all. I suppose that's further proof that sound is subjective. I'm 36, no hearing loss other than the mandatory loss experienced during aging, and am pairing them with a NAD C375BEE. For the money I paid, they're the best speakers I've had value wise (I also own 702 Signatures, and obviously these sound better, but certainly not 10x better). I think they have excellent bass for its size, the mids are good and the treble is great. They are excellent as desktop speakers on a gaming PC.
@andrewrobinsonreviews2 жыл бұрын
The only person who has to like the sound of your system is you. Thanks for watching.
@bencosturbz77552 жыл бұрын
I have b&w 685 s1 with nad pre amp and nad 268 power amp the and bass and genral power is awsome sounding for me crazy bass . Are we.saying tje older 685s1 is a better speaker than the 705s2 ? Many thanks
@MrJueKa2 жыл бұрын
there is nothing illegal in deciding for yourself that sometimes individual music systems or speakers are bad even if they are made by world famous manufacturers and even if its about their products which are hyped and highly recommended by many others and you don't have to apologize for that
@thatchinaboi13 жыл бұрын
As an audio engineer, based on your description it would appear to me that there is a significant increase in the frequency response between 5-8 kHz. That is poor design. There is no way around it, no matter what the company gives you as an excuse. It has nothing to do with having a voicing that compensates for high frequency hearing loss. I appreciate your honesty. Keep up the good work. (Speaker distortion is further evidence of poor design, and makes the "voicing" sound even worse.)