Jacques Secrétin - Stellan Bengtsson - European Table Tennis TOP 12 1981.

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Ikaruspingpong

Ikaruspingpong

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@alxleduc3294
@alxleduc3294 4 жыл бұрын
RIP la légende du tennis de table français.
@paulbismuth10
@paulbismuth10 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Jacques Secrétin. A champion, an ambassador of the sport who popularized tt via his shows, and a great man visiting prisons to play with inmates. A legend.
@philippebrocard5543
@philippebrocard5543 4 жыл бұрын
Le grand Jacques ! RIP
@leprodigieux7901
@leprodigieux7901 4 жыл бұрын
Rip Secretin grand joueur
@Simava13
@Simava13 4 жыл бұрын
Rip, paix à son âme 🙏
@michamroczkowski7892
@michamroczkowski7892 4 жыл бұрын
Rip, paix à son âme
@絵盤下痢音
@絵盤下痢音 2 жыл бұрын
素晴らしいラリーですね。 セクレタンの中~後陣での山なりのドライブ。前陣での強烈なドライブ。 ベンクソンのフットワーク、バックハンド技術の多彩さ。 良い動画を有難うございます。
@Galimah
@Galimah 11 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ikarus!!! With all the flaws the players had back then compared to now i must say they had greater personalities in their styles. Stellan Bengston is always a joy to watch. He had the frame work for later swedish tt players waldner, persson and appelgren
@Ahldor
@Ahldor 9 жыл бұрын
+Galimah Yes indeed. Bengtsson set a new standard in table tennis at his time. To me he introduced the modern version of table tennis. Footwork and positioning got a new meaning with his play style.
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ahldor He was one of the first to go to China and learn from them and based on that develop his style. Waldner did the same later.
@dickn.ormous1064
@dickn.ormous1064 4 жыл бұрын
​@@SuperHammaren They mostly developed their serve and receive techniques after the Chinese.Bengtsson was trained by Ogimura.Appelgren based his two wing mid distance loop style on Secretin.
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 4 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 Correct he was in Japan 69, China at the time was still hard to get into due to the cultural revolution. However in 72 he practiced in Beijing and Guangzhou. Appelgrens serves are much simpler than Waldners, obvious from the ETTC final in 82 (not a long time since Waldners trip there). I think Appelgren and Swediish players in general more looked on the hungarian style which had been very succesful in the mid 70's and onwards. At least it says so in most documentaries about Swedish players from the 80's.
@JimTDF
@JimTDF 4 жыл бұрын
Great match. It was also interesting to see other players sitting right next to the court, watching the match. I am pretty sure one of them is the nine-time European champion Valentina Popova... (ETTC singles gold in 1980 and 1984)
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 4 жыл бұрын
The defensive player?
@JimTDF
@JimTDF 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperHammaren No, Popova was an attacker. You probably meant Fliura Bulatova, Euro champ 1988.
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 4 жыл бұрын
@@JimTDF Thanks! I always mix them up :)
@dirkmaasch4971
@dirkmaasch4971 3 жыл бұрын
Mit Wasser in der Spielpause aus einer Glas-Mehrweg-Pfandflasche. Soweit waren die früher schon. Wahrscheinlich sogar, ohne groß darüber nachzudenken. Ich liebe die alten Zeiten.
@christiaanspan7525
@christiaanspan7525 3 жыл бұрын
Two legends...
@gonzalolibano6505
@gonzalolibano6505 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, wait, wait a minute...I think I was there, isn't it Barcelona? I remember Secretin, he was a veteran already, an he was an artist, he classified in third place if I am not wrong...and Waldner was 17 year old and classified fourth...I can't believe it! OMG...
@paulbismuth10
@paulbismuth10 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't young anymore but still good. 1976 european champion and 1977 mixed double world champion. He passed away this week around the same day as Diego Maradona's death.
@gonzalolibano6505
@gonzalolibano6505 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbismuth10 , Really has he just died? I am sorry to hear that. RIP
@philippeyared2050
@philippeyared2050 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tennis de table, le tout sans aboiements doubles avec poing serré à chaque point gagné. Mais comment en est-on arrivé là ?
@philippechanteur505
@philippechanteur505 3 жыл бұрын
J'adorais sont style nonchalant top 😎👍
@pingspiritpingspirit4099
@pingspiritpingspirit4099 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the last set. If it is possible, i would like to see the complete match. Do you have other videos with Jacques Secretin? Please.
@redj1986
@redj1986 4 жыл бұрын
Bengstsson aurait quand même put faire un effort pour porter des chaussettes dignes de ce nom, même pour cette époque... rip maitre Jacques, tu vas rejoindre ton pote Purkart, vous allez bien vous marrer la-haut :)
@andreashacker181
@andreashacker181 3 ай бұрын
Wenn man bedenkt, dass bei der Europarangliste - Top 12 - 1973 in Böblingen ein 33 jähriger Eberhardt Schöler (6:5 Siege) beide, also den damals 24 jährigen Jaques Sekretin (ebenfalls 6:5 Siege) und den damals 21 jährigen Stellan Bengtsson (Top 12 Sieger 9:2 Siege) noch geschlagen hat😊
@andraszahonyi9917
@andraszahonyi9917 9 жыл бұрын
Ha jól látom, Tuboly Lajos (és Kiss Béla?) /HUN/ a játékvezető a magyarországi versenyen! As I see, Mr. Lajos Tuboly (and Béla Kiss?) /(HUN/ are the umpires!
@MrJeepsters
@MrJeepsters 6 жыл бұрын
Question : Who was the welsh player abaut it was tell he won his games by fault of adversaries ? He playes at the same time of jacques Secretin or Waldner ?
@vrothen1602
@vrothen1602 6 жыл бұрын
John Hilton ?
@Fontsman
@Fontsman 4 жыл бұрын
Secretin looked old even then! Played a bit like Jonyer with the loose grip and extended strokes.
@enzoelmharmach8753
@enzoelmharmach8753 4 жыл бұрын
dead today :(
@Fontsman
@Fontsman 4 жыл бұрын
@@enzoelmharmach8753 That is very 😥
@-danR
@-danR 4 жыл бұрын
backhand was nothing like Jonyer's and no big whipping forehand loop. Secretin was a topspin/lobby sort of player with a punch-drive backhand. Saw him play in the late 70's.
@Fontsman
@Fontsman 4 жыл бұрын
@@-danR I said he was a bit like Jonyer with the big strokes. But he didn't play as offensively like Jonyer. Nobody had Jonyer's loop. That was unique.
@andreandre6280
@andreandre6280 4 жыл бұрын
Saul Goodman changed his identity again.
@jayaramhat1978
@jayaramhat1978 3 жыл бұрын
Manntaab!!
@piwi7332
@piwi7332 3 жыл бұрын
en 81 on n'était pas obligé de lancer la balle? Car Bengtsson sert dans sa main à chaque fois on dirait!
@PokePulse12
@PokePulse12 5 жыл бұрын
Its impressive, before you didnt need to use your whole body to make a topspin with the 38mm ball
@richardresseguier1
@richardresseguier1 4 жыл бұрын
Cocorico
@parcm
@parcm 4 жыл бұрын
Bengtsson, nine out of ten illegal services...
@csabakelemen1039
@csabakelemen1039 4 жыл бұрын
Majdnem minden szervákat amit szerválnak legyen Bengtsson vagy Secretin egy sem jó mind falcs mert a kéziből szervál és nincsenek fel dobva 25 centimétere ma ez nem lehetséges 🏓!
@NoSpeechForTheDumb
@NoSpeechForTheDumb 10 ай бұрын
Secretin looked so french its hilarious LOL
@eugeneczyzewski7237
@eugeneczyzewski7237 9 жыл бұрын
As I recall, wasn't Secretin using anti-spin on one side and long pips on the other? I can see from watching this that Bengtsson couldn't really play his loop game. No one was ever comfortable playing Jacques Secretin.
@HBFrance
@HBFrance 8 жыл бұрын
+Eugene Czyzewski No, Secretin played (and still plays, he's No 476 in the French ranking, at 68 :) ) with 2 inverted rubbers, 2 Butterfly Sriver if I remember correctly.
@ianmoro8300
@ianmoro8300 8 жыл бұрын
Absolument.. Maître Jacques joue avec des srivers.. épaisseur max en coup droit.. et en revers il est descendu à 1,5mm.
@SuperHammaren
@SuperHammaren 8 жыл бұрын
Very impressive :))
@-danR
@-danR 5 жыл бұрын
You may be thinking of his partner Purkart, who used antiloop on one side. Secretin used standard attacking rubber on both sides. His general style was forehand loop and lob, backhand punch-drive/block. He varied quite a bit on this, according to his opponent's style*. I would call 10:09 and the next point 10:27 JS's fundamental style, but we're not seeing it as often in this match; I think he's trying to mix up Bengtsson's game here, keep him guessing. (*minor edit: Feb.20/2021)
@magnussturesson1722
@magnussturesson1722 4 жыл бұрын
Always inverted, spinny rubbers when I saw him play. But he was devious in his manners to make nothing at all look like a lot of spin. Appelgren is/was equally skilled in using the entire table.
@Wally-H
@Wally-H 4 жыл бұрын
Never mind the serves, those shorts should be illegal lol
@LeDrummerDu88
@LeDrummerDu88 10 жыл бұрын
Dommage hehe ^^
@Zyciegrzegorza
@Zyciegrzegorza 2 жыл бұрын
Mais quel niveau faible par rapport à maintenant..... On dirait des débutants
@bertufuxer3737
@bertufuxer3737 2 жыл бұрын
Ezt tornát KLAMPÁR nyerte😎🇭🇺👍
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