IL-2 Cliffs of Dover Blitz || Hawker Hurricane || SCRAMBLE!

[@jasonmorahan7450]

Just to help with the immersion a tip in use of flaps, only partial are used in take off particularly on fields because they otherwise interfere too much with drag. Since most homegrown British warbirds like the Spit and Hurricane only have two position locking split flaps and don't have a partial setting they're only used during landing. And being an older man now a history lesson as is the privilege of the aged, most aircraft of the period have a ton of low speed lift without any flaps and they're really more an expression of the type of airfields being used than any absence of almost immediate lift once take off power is gradually applied. It is more about landing on a rough field, no matter how trim the lawn means you really don't want to be going too much faster than a peddling bicycle if you have any say in it, so flaps are really all about landing at the lowest speed you can. That said, German fighters aside which have their own design philosophies the bulk of fighters in 1940 both British and continental are really barely one step removed from biplanes and such a statement is never more true than with the Hurricane and its thick wing and fabric rear fuselage, Hawker originally called it the Fury Monoplane during its development phase and it basically is a Hawker Fury with the top wing removed and a Merlin shoved in. Part of the reason it was instrumental to the British defence, the Spitfire was an entirely new design requiring a newly skilled workforce where the Hurricane could be put immediately into mass production using the existing workforce and manufacturing facilities with very little modification. Now with something like the Bavarian fighters such as the Messerschmitt used a simple hand wheel linkage for the flaps and for a particularly rough field you could wind on just a little to shorten the take off run, or heavily overload the aircraft from a paved field which was not actually uncommon by experienced pilots during isolated field operations as the Luftwaffe often staged fighter units a mere dozen or so miles from potential enemy contact to increase the range of operations, they had their own light infantry service and everything set up for that so it was rather unique. It was not unheard of, during a hasty retreat for pilots to shove some ground crew members and equipment into the radio compartment of an Me109 and use it, grossly overloaded as a shuttle. Such a system even allowed the pilot to wind on a little flaps to increase turn rates as an ad hoc combat flaps setting although this would come down to hand strength versus wind resistance, however the combat record does show experienced pilots using them in this way. Conversely American fighters by the same period actually had a specific combat flaps setting, as well as take off and landing settings in steps with their electrical flaps. Focke Wulf also used electrical with multiple position stops. The British just had the two position locking hydraulic. What ever they were in, nobody would use landing flaps setting during take off, too much drag to accelerate effectively. Half the purpose of landing flaps is slowing the aircraft with drag so you can approach touch down with some throttle in case you need to apply emergency for go around without the time for an engine run up to it. In this period you cannot just shove an aircraft engine's throttle from idle to full emergency without expecting an immediate splutter and shut down, engines must be worked up between dramatic power changes and the aircraft trimmed or you get quickly reminded heavier than air objects don't naturally fly. I've got a story about that too, in the Pacific a Marines Wildcat bomber escort was returning from a successful mission at the cruise power setting, feeling safe when their bombers unexpectedly got bounced by Zeros that had followed them all the way from the target area to almost home and then attacked from on high. It's a heartbreaking account as the veteran retelling it mentioned that it took them a full minute to run up their engines from the economy cruise setting to combat power and all they could do was watch bomber after bomber get destroyed right in front of their eyes without a damn thing they could do about it unless they wanted to foul their engines and drop into the sea with them. One of the harsh mechanical realities of what is an early period of engineering development, I mean look at vintage cars from the same period and they're all sorts of ancient and remarkably complex trying to do what seems, today to be the simplest things.

[@odonovan]

1:12 - "ACHTUNG, FRITZ! You missed the shipping convoy! That green stuff below you is GRASS! You are NOT over water. Repleat, you are NOT over water."

[@geordiedog1749]

“What shall I do with the officers?” “Give ‘em a bloody shovel!”

[@leighjones5551]

NO Flap required for take on in the Hurricane, they are only there to slow it down on landing. I have been enjoying all you work, well done.

[@robertmartyr2041]

thank you for doing the hurricane as she's quite overshadowed by the spitfire when there was more hurricane's and more kills by hurricanes too :0) thanks taff chocks away and tally ho :0)

[@kevinbrigden6276]

Is true that and they don't really get the credit they deserve. Many more Hurricanes than Spits but the Spitfire was acknowledged as the superior aircraft. Watched a documentary recently interviewing Battle Of Britain pilots. One of them made the observation that if they had the same number of Spits as Hurricanes they could still have won without the Hurricane. However, that the Hurricane could not have won the Battle Of Britain on it's own if the Spitfire did not exist.

[@bigjohno242]

@@kevinbrigden6276 I’ve heard that too , but other pilots have said that we needed both the Spitfire and Hurricane. The Hurricane was far easier to repair battle damage on , and was a superior gun platform .

[@STNeish]

I always loved the Hawker Hurricane. Unsung hero of the Battle of Britain.

[@OfficialUSKRprogram]

The cheap fighter made out of wood that was outperformed in every aspect by the Spitfire and the BF-109, like the cheap little corvettes that looked like tugboats, doing the same job as the faster, better, more nimble destroyers protecting the convoys of the atlantic. I think having the cheaper, less performing craft highlights the skills and talent of the people controlling them more than anything else.. It's the feeling of not having any weight on your shoulders, you're not flying the best aircraft and so you're not expected to be the best pilot in the world, you do the best you can, and it makes every victory much more satisfying.

[@jaydeister9305]

Great mission! The Hurri was a spectacular beast of WW2! With that huge wing, the stall speed must be about 70 knots..?? The cliffs of dover career, whether in a Spit or Hurri would be great! It was an epic period, and the Brits won the battle, so it makes for a great story. When you start from the radar, then ground observer reports, radio reports, plot rooms, to the assigned squadrons/vectors/targets, that would make the most sense, and makes for a great story. The Battle of Britain wasn't fought in a vacuum, so it's helpful to see how it all worked together.

[@thomashiggins9320]

That was a lot of fun to watch, and the scenario captures the feel of the first phase of the Battle of Britain really well, when the Luftwaffe focused on rapid and repeated attacks on RAF airfields. I prefer a single series that follows one career. That way, it's a bit like having a protagonist for a story. :)

[@tspencer227]

Nice to see CLOD getting some love! I'm just about to try the "On Ne Passe Pas" campaign for the 3rd time- I have yet to finish any of the missions in the campaign with a successful landing (of the plane).

[@kevinmottram9491]

That looks great Taff, it MUST be a series. Please!

[@callipygianpilot2700]

I realize this video is old, but I started this campaign today and spent forever figuring out why I couldn't take off, till I found the "signal ground crew to remove choke" hot key assignment 🤦. In multiple attempts, I managed to shoot down a couple of bombers but mostly I got demolished by their tail gunners. Your result, as in no damage taken and landed successfully, is more than adequate. Well flown!

[@robertolds7149]

I looked for any chocks but they were invisible ones.. . . .stealth chocks way ahead of there time

[@andrewmontgomery5621]

Appropriate for Battle of Britain Day coming up on September 15th

[@amkessel2014]

Great video! Love the storytelling and contextualizing. Would love to see more episodes in the Battle of Britain campaign. Just can't get enough of that iconic battle.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Great to see you back in Blitz.

[@Just_lift_anyone]

Hope those Jerries were given a warm British welcome 😉

[@sopwithcamelus]

I'm sure it was the finest hot lead available 😜

[@mickeydee3595]

Anybody else find that cliffs of dover has somewhat better physics (shit falling off and tumbling down) and sounds than later IL2 games?

[@oreste1964]

I really like the effects of the vapor trails of the bullets and the flashes from the exhaust pipes, they even change color if you change the carburetion, incredible how realistic it is. With the bomber, I regulated the carburetion at the different altitudes just looking out the colors of the flames, in the twin-engine you can see them well. Yellow or red flames mean mixture too rich or too lean, purple or blue flames indicate good carburetion but it is always better to stay a little rich :)

[@jakemurray2635]

The workhorse of the RAF, good to see her getting some publicity.

[@davidhunter1538]

I'd like to suggest taking off then circling up to height then turning on course to the enemy. That way you arrive at the battle from above and can dive in a fast swooping attack at high speed instead of making a nice slow climbing target for the enemy as you fly up and engage.

[@yoosta22]

A Cliffs and Tobruk careers would be very nice.

[@tombartram7384]

Some of these vids have an ad break in the middle: the Hun knows this and THAT'S when you're at your most vulnerable.

[@SmilingDave]

Excellent video, Taff. Really captured the flavour of the sim, loved the narrative which really brought it alive. I’m now a Taff in Exile subscriber! 👍🏻 - Snapper

[@TaffinExile]

Welcome aboard!

[@Alex_Guy1011]

@@TaffinExile Just a question. How did you manage to enable original rapid-fire machine guns? Is it just me?

[@colindouglas7769]

Great to see you back in the Hurricane, Taff. The Hurricane was the real star of the Battle of Britain responsible for 60% of the total Luftwaffe losses in the battle. I would love to see you do a career in the Battle of Britain Hurricane.

[@JDKempton]

Excellent episode great narration and story.

[@pmgrodrigues]

This is the first time i saw a video of yours, so i don't know if you do this on your other videos, but the narrative intro is a nice addition as it makes the whole thing much more immersive. Congratulations!

[@TaffinExile]

thankyou, there are different styles on different series, i'm trying to figure out what people and the KZbin algorithm likes by varying the styles, so far the story driven stuff is proving popular :-)

[@pmgrodrigues]

@@TaffinExile glad to know that! You deserve it

[@jasonm3291]

Amazing what the mod team have turned this game into

[@edgar_friendly]

Ah, the Hurricane, what a fantastic plane. Keep this one up if you can, even if it's part of a rotation.

[@DGrin79]

Nice to see people play the huri, she did the brunt of the work.

[@A.Steptoe]

I love this series, dunno how many times ive watched it :( :)

[@JustYourAverageGamer46]

I really liked that story bit you added at the end.

[@AlanTheBest97]

Love this game, do Desert Wings too

[@jeffkeith637]

Nice. I was surprised you didn't get nailed by your own flak. Love CoD vids. Thanks.

[@conmcgrath7502]

Do whatever you damn well please Taff! I'm happy to watch anything you care to post. Pax dude.

[@shannon7002]

I lived close to Northolt airfield during the war. 303 squadron polish pilots. We owe them and all our fighting men.

[@jetfighter200]

Nice another il2 series!

[@terryroots5023]

Really enjoyed your first sortie with the hurricane.

[@The_Real_Indiana_Joe]

I don't think the Hurricane needs flaps on takeoff, but you did well for a young pilot.

[@harmer4245]

You can use 30% flap for take-off. Apparently it gets you in the air quicker on a scramble.

[@jamesrussell7760]

I remember reading about Tangmere and Middle Wallop in Stephen Bungay's fine book, "The Most Dangerous Enemy". But curiously, Hurricane 111 Squadron was located at Debden, not Tangmere! Lol! By the way, if you find yourself in a turning fight with a Bf-109, you will be much quicker with a turning circle radius of just over 650 feet while that for the 109 is just over 850 feet. One thing I noticed with your fight with the Dornier 17s (which are very fast indeed). You like to get in close, right? So, set your convergence to no more than 200 meters. Judging from the tracers, your fire was not well concentrated. Now, you asked for comments whether you should stick with the Hurricane...my vote is yes, most definitely. The Hurri is iconic...a perfectly lovely old girl!

[@colindouglas7769]

The Hurricane was an excellent turn fighter; it could out-turn a Spitfire and it could easily out-turn the 109, but it couldn't climb or dive as well as the 109. By the way, those Dorniers were Do-215s, not Do-17s ... watch the video again.

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

oooh. I love this time period! :D I might have to buy the game.

[@davidca96]

as the British would say, Hawker Hurracunn

[@VikingTeddy]

Definitely a few pilot snipes. That's one upshot of AP.

[@nikbear]

That was excellent! The rotation of the 3 different careers is an brilliant idea, just nice to see you back in the air Taff 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@davidladd9544]

have been waiting for you to do a Hurri career mode!! noice 1 m8 keep it going

[@jonesy66691]

Can't wait for this sim to get VR support.

[@brentonclark6247]

I’m with you on that one.

[@stephenwhitemore9120]

Back to the mess for tea and medals 🏅

[@kaboulscabal4816]

Tough choice, but I've been just reading about Franz Stigler, who started his combat career flying 109s in North Africa, so I be psyched to see what that theatre would look like.

[@johnfred8848]

nice , my grandfather flew these in ww2 from here

[@jameshenderson4876]

Very enjoyable, good to see some BoB! Re which career, or whether to rotate - I'd prefer you see what feels good for you. If you're enjoying, we're enjoying.

[@davidburroughs2244]

Glad to see this Battle of Britain, hope to see more

[@darrenmills1235]

Love this , especially as I live near Tangmere

[@number8485]

Amazing experience to be in the Hurricane’s cockpit and getting a feel for being in the right place at the right time.Felt a bit exposed being out of formation and maybe a bit more of the incendiary de Wilde ammo would have helped.Great effort scoring a kill on your first enemy engagement with the Dorniers and Junkers.The 109’s will up the tempo next time so be careful!

[@johnclarke2553]

Don't use flap to take off in a Hurri!

[@davidgordon6546]

Jolly good show! This video is perfect for showing how much fun this simulation is, And I hope to link it in some Blogs I visit to drum up interest. Not bad for a game that is quite a few years old now, but constantly updated And improved but Team Fusion. One note to tell viewers, You need to know how to fly a plane! (And this sim is a great teacher.) I have flown the above mission (#1 of about 12 in the campaign for solo flyers) Many times, but if you really want to test your mettle, come on over to the multiplayer side And join TWC ( or ATAG) and fly with (and against) people from all over world! We use discord to talk to each other in real time ( not the enemy, of course.) And develop great friendships, comraderie, and learn a lot about flying, techniques, and how to's.

[@deanlegassicke5210]

Like the idea of three careers, maybe fighter, bomber and ground attack

[@R0gue0ne]

Love the Hurri!

[@SammySathya]

Nice this looks like a promising series. Keep it up

[@brettsharman1401]

I think the second Dornier you were shooting at was actually the the same aircraft you were shooting at earlier, it was empty but had kept flying.

[@ianannesley]

Just one career at time please Taff. I think rotating careers would spoil the continuity. The hurricane series would be good but if you want to do something else that's fine with me. Always a pleasure to watch your content.

[@Dv087]

I like it. Good vid as well as comintary.

[@jonosmith4919]

Nice 1 Taff 👍

[@CATASTEROID934]

Nice work, scratching up one kill and one damaged and you even managed not to overrev the engine changing prop pitch/speed and throw a rod this time unlike a previous first flight of yours in Cliffs of Dover ha ha! Honestly I'd focus on Cliffs of Dover initially then you can look at maybe flying the Martlet in Desert wings Tobruk or something. It'd be great if you could fly something interesting like a turret fighter in Cliffs of Dover but I'm not sure if it has any.

[@peterjames2580]

Thanks for the Hurrie! Do all Three please!!!!

[@jameswilliams1085]

Wow!! That was FUN!!!

[@Conn30Mtenor]

07:45 Four guys all set for a six year vacation at the resort at Bowmanville, Ontario.

[@jackmunday7602]

Another brilliant display of airman ship. I love watching all your gameplay videos. When youtube announces that you've released another one it's a real treat. By any chance are you as excited about microprose releasing a brand new B-17 the mighty eighth game as I am.

[@benwelch4076]

Really enjoyed this video. Look forward to any of the suggestions you asked about in the video. Please keep this one in the rotation if that is what is decided.

[@IndianaDel1]

Look forward to this new career. I would love to see a BoB career, perhaps as a notional follow (if still alive) to the Desert Airforce.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

I'd enjoy a BoB pilot career. You make great videos and this one, I'm sure, will be no different.

[@kevinkocher9347]

I’am surprised that one bomber didn’t go down it took a direct from the flak in the belly it even bounced up from the hit

[@Chasedtuna9]

While managing 3 careers at a time may sound interesting, i believe it would be needlessly stressful to manage with your storytelling style of gameplay, as well as partially split your audience as to which series they are most interested in and which ones they dont mind missing. I personally would prefer to watch one series on a consistent day. As to what you fly or which game/sim it is, i leave that in your hands.

[@sopwithcamelus]

I agree. Whatever he enjoys the most will come across the best anyway. I want him to have fun so he won't get burned out, lol. I don't watch regular TV much these days. I have too much fun watching aircraft and submarine simulations.

[@Iymarra]

Nice vid, dunno if it's me but the damage model seems to be more intricate in great battles.

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

Sure...Hurricane! But I'm biased. It's my favorite British fighter. Looks like a hunched shark.

[@dreamF_]

I would prefer one Series at a time. That looks like it suits you more😊👍🏻

[@johnathansealey9460]

you should really make this a series like how you had the old il2 battle of britian some years back

[@KillZoneGB]

Nice little video, been watching alot of your content. Just a few titbits. 1) For 1940 the ammo was ball bearings, which changed latter 1943. 2) Your Flying too slow on finals. 3) Flaps were not used when on finals, just in case of the flaps failed on one side or one side was hit when in combat. (if this was the case the aircraft would roll) Not being negative, just some pointers. Keep it up, look forward to more content. Yours Charlie Simpson.

[@kathrynnewton5203]

2 thoughts. 1. Do what makes you happy, we come here to watch what happens. 2. Dual defensive career as in either day/night fighter or spit and hurri etc OR Offensive as in fighter sweeps (rhubarb) and bomber. just a thought, cheers.

[@comesahorseman]

By all means, continue this one, thanks! 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Run as many careers as you like.

[@petersmith2112]

Three careers will be great !

[@dmikulec]

"Cabbage crates over the briny?"

[@sopwithcamelus]

I love the Hurry. The Spitfire is beautiful. But the Hurricane was more available due to the patriotic foresight of Hawker Aviation.

[@timonsolus]

The Hawker Hurricane was also quicker to build than the Spitfire - fewer man hours to build one. "A key reason for the aircraft's appeal was its relatively simple construction and ease of manufacture. In comparison to the Supermarine Spitfire, it was significantly cheaper and involved less labour, requiring 10,300 man hours to produce versus 15,200 for the Spitfire." Therefore, in theory, 2 factories of equal size could turn out 3 Hurricanes for every 2 Spitfires. However the undisputed winner in terms of ease of production was the Bf 109, which required only 5,000 man hours. Unfortunately for the Luftwaffe, medium bomber production had a higher priority in Germany during 1940 than fighter production. Also, Messerschmitt had to put a lot of its limited resources into the Bf 110 heavy fighter program.

[@jsmith3772]

Great video, I have both CloD and Il2 GB and I agree with you it is harder to simply fly the aircraft in CloD but it seems easier to shoot things down(.303s seem to do more damage), the biggest problem with CLoD is the static campaign which plays much more like the scripted campaigns of IL2 GB, also I haven't tried making videos from the gameplay, it is more difficult than IL2 GB? Whichever sim you choose, I enjoy your videos they bring the combat more to life and make more excited to jump back in for my next mission, thanks for all the hard work

[@colindouglas7769]

Your claim that .303s seem to do more damage is ridiculous. They have a higher rate of fire, but compared to the 20mm cannons the Bf-109s had, the .303 Browning machine gun was a pea-shooter which required more hits in order to cause serious damage to an enemy. A 20mm cannon shell packs a far greater punch, and therefore, caused far more structural damage than the .303 Browning. That is why the RAF eventually equipped their aircraft with the 20mm Hispano cannon.

[@jsmith3772]

@@colindouglas7769 I think you misunderstood me, I am not saying they have more punch against other munitions. I am saying the 303s in Cliffs of Dover seem to do more damage than the 303s in IL2 Great Battles.(Taff flew Hurricane campaigns in both simulations) I agree the 303 was a poor choice for aircraft munitions and the smaller caliber machine guns were obsolete in fighter aircraft shortly after Battle of Britain.

[@mikoajpytlik5225]

@@jsmith3772 GB doesn't correctly model internal systems that you need to hit with 303s to be effective. It mostly cares about structural damage, which is also why even .50 cals are relatively ineffective there

[@zaynhills3812]

Wonderful video Taft. My personal thought on the 1 v 3 career series is for just 1 and have that one be the Cliff of Dover. Thanks again, and just what or where is it you're exiled from?

[@mattwright778]

Hey Taff I would love to see a desert campaign! The med/North African campaign is one my favourite campaigns of the Second World War 👍🏼

[@svenpittorf2127]

I hope the captured bomber crews have a really good excuse for those craters!

[@bobsmodellingmayhem8632]

I think you ought to do one career at a time, but you could do the three as like a progression of the character's story. Starting in the Battle of Britain on Hurricanes and moving forward to others as he's sent there by the CO's. Hurricanes in BoB, Blenheim after he's transfered to Bomber Command following the end of BoB then he gets transferred to North Africa later in the war. Just a thought for your series, your choice at the end of the day.

[@johnclarke2553]

I think that the Do215 that you attacked, and the crew evacuated, kept flying, and then you shot it down towards the end. Notice they didn't fire at you, and it looked empty to me.

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

Yup, the second plane was the first plane without the crew. He didn´t much damage to the plane first time, so it´s hard to understand why they bailed out.

[@timonsolus]

@@foreverpinkf.7603 : It was hit by AA fire apparently.

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

@@timonsolus Maybe

[@HerbAlpenhorn]

Glad to see another new career. Are there any Pacific Theatre scenarios you’ve considered?

[@edwardmorriale9358]

By all means, continue this series.

[@mattwilcox3645]

seems to me, always fly till you die when you live longer you know your'e improving

[@Mass_hole508]

Please do continue. 👍

[@Tuulos]

I'm fine with 3 careers, that way you could even play as a fighter, ground attacker and a medium / heavy bomber at the same time.

[@richardbarker2928]

Excellent,nice to see the hurricane and some Battle of Britain content,also the German Dornier Do17. Be good to do a career as a hurricane pilot,taff what do you think?

[@colindouglas7769]

Those were Dornier Do-215s.

[@randlerobbertson8792]

flaps for take off ? 1st vic didnt have them down . or is it me ?

[@TaffinExile]

helps the old girl get in the air quicker I find

[@tahzib1451]

how did they go from scratchy cockpit glass of 1946 to no cockpit glass in CoD baffles me...

[@roberts1938]

I couldn't catch the bombers even at full throttle. What are you doing? Do you reduce the amount of fuel and ammunition, hide the radiator during an attack, get rid of the parachute to reduce the overall weight?

[@74MikeBike]

Is your aircraft in trim? That will make a huge difference in how fast the aircraft accelerates and its top speed. Please check the Aircraft Flashcards for the details of settings

[@roberts1938]

@@74MikeBike I use standard settings. That is why my Hurrriacena is very sluggish and lazy. I wonder if I am such a weak virtual pilot compared to poll pilots during the UK btwa, is this the guilt of programming?

[@74MikeBike]

@@roberts1938 Hello Robert The Hurricane I's are programmed to perform as the historical types did. Many new players who are inexperienced require time to understand how best to get their aircraft perform optimally. This is why we suggest they read the aircraft flash card manuals and the 'Getting Started and Troubleshooting Guide' The settings for the different types varies... so for example those which are using 100 octane fuel use different settings than those using the pre-BoB 87 octane fuel. As mentioned, if you read the recommended files, and additionally if you post your questions on the CLIFFS OF DOVER forums, you will find you can achieve historical performance.

[@arthurcrego8297]

Loved it

[@mikerobson3328]

great stuff a tiny hint remember ta leave ya flaps up for ya takeoff will help ya get there quicker have to get this one myself, nice work olbean bloody marverlous lol best wishes from downunder n ex pom too

[@timonsolus]

I vote for doing 1 career at a time. Better to a career to have 1 mission every week than 1 mission every 3 weeks.

[@legless5745]

Would you recommend this game?

[@Psychedelic_TimeTraveller86]

👍

[@Electricfox]

Now, if someone could take the graphics and cockpit functionality of CLOD:Blitz and add the strategy game, radio chatter and squadron battle size from BOB2: WOV, then there would be the best Battle of Britain game in existence.

[@nomis19821982]

Wow they bailed fast