ILL NIÑO: Laz Pina fires back at Cristian Machado (Lions at the Gate) for comments over new line up

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[@jmendez7646]

You know you n Dave are the shady ones in I’ll Nino. And YOU KNOW LATG are a much better band .You know🤷🏻‍♂️

[@RichieJauregui]

You know. You know right, you know. Also you know that you know that I I know that you know… you know.

[@Crossa]

I talk like that too😆 I always have the habit of saying “you know you know”

[@RichieJauregui]

@@Crossa lol all good. We all have those words we say a lot! You know!? Keep it metal! 🤘🏼

[@rocktalks5706]

I didnt realize he said "you know" that many times. I guess Im used to hear latinos talk like that. I rewatched the interview and he said "You know" over 60 times... LOL.

[@RichieJauregui]

@@rocktalks5706 lol man! I had to stop listening to it.

[@bergamo2408]

Laz "you know" Pina

[@AyZeD]

Drinking game: strat this interview and have a shot every time "you know" is said, to will all you have to do is survive the alcohol poisoning.

[@DiZzAzZtErPrOdUcTiOnS]

Brings a whole new meaning to "the more you know"

[@FatNinjaTurtle]

Ill nino isn’t ill nino anymore, the only thing going for them is Marc Rizzo is back

[@JimmyEres]

I believe Marc will only record a few songs It's not like He's "back"

[@Aita88]

Daniel couto is also back without him they lost their trademark!

[@Aita88]

Machado was replaceble!

[@cold10er]

Get over it pal

[@chrystianiniguez5059]

ill nino should have changed their name. It's a different band now. Old ill nino was unique and special. Now they are just dragging a bag of old stuff. LATG Is fresh and a familiar sound at the same time. I wish them all luck.

[@rocktalks5706]

They actually went to court because of the band's name. They won't change it for the world. :/

[@Aita88]

The bag they dragging is their uniqueness the others wanted to throw in a bin, to sounds like any other Metal band!🤦

[@nicolasmartinez51]

This is when you put humility right next to bitterness....this dude should take a note out of Cristian's book...."if you aint got nothing nice to say, then you shouldn't say it"

[@WhiteBraids]

Your new music is trash and you say that L.A.T.G. Material sounds like Dead New World which was arguably your best album and a direction a lot of your fans wished you would keep going in. I actually enjoyed the song Sangre..having said that, being as the band split in half, it would have been more respectful to us fans if neither sides used the Ill Nino masthead. You say you’re ready to move on but you’re moving on whilst using the name of a band that disintegrated years ago. Ill nino is dead and the best part of it formed Lions at the Gate.

[@Aita88]

Revolución was their best album all they were doing in 2010 was trash for whites and loosing their real spirit , dead new world was generic like every other band out there keep listen machados new emo Shit!🤦

[@hazelnut49]

Damn straight. I'll Nino is dead to me, it's all about Lion At the Gates! 🤘

[@AlexandraCimino]

It’s funny to hear him talking about letting things go and moving on and then see them playing songs Christian wrote.. 🤷🏼‍♂️👍

[@rocktalks5706]

At the end of the day it's all about the money. Plus they got the rights for the name legally.

[@tanitacolabraro4026]

Absolutelly right! Jajaa

[@Crossa]

It was a quite better response from Laz. The only thing I disagree bout, his him hyping the new lead singer. LatG have released better two singles than the current Ill Nino put out. Just to be fair, Ill Nino will not be the same. And as for LatG, they won’t have that Ill Nino sound flavor like previous. They won’t sound best without eachother. I’ll put it that way. Pierre, I totally respect how you ask “blunt” questions, and Laz was able to respond and give his “you know” response. What I like is, you showed him what Cristian said, and it’s like you’re bringing almost like a truce between them since they don’t contact eachother.I’m pretty sure they heard each other’s new music but don’t want to admit it. They both had a similar response to your question. To be honest, I would rather them make peace with eachother, instead of holding a grudge with eachother. Cause life is short. 💁🏽‍♂️

[@rocktalks5706]

Thanks for sticking around bro! Please share :)

[@Rammsteinfanboy2]

Split? Him and Dave dead ass pulled the rug out from the other members. He's in no position to talk when he's lucky Dave kept him around instead of throwing him to the gutter like the other members.

[@TooMuchGainz]

Grade-A dirtbags.

[@HugoRodriguez-hh9rf]

It's probably because they're cousins.

[@lennyanishinabie3460]

They should change their name to “Ill Nino” to “Marc Rizzo Ft Ill Nino”

[@toasttoasted3492]

How about The Rizzo Band 😂

[@DM-il1hf]

I’m sure the pack wearing trump fan agrees with you.😂

[@toasttoasted3492]

@@DM-il1hf 🍦

[@willalf86]

U know, u know what I think that this brother is telling lies!

[@tanitacolabraro4026]

You know...he lies jaja

[@trezreyna6254]

You know that we know, that we know that you know. You know?

[@NessAlice]

Despite what happened, and this is easy for me to say bc I wasn't there none of us were, but LATG and Ill Niño can be in competition with each other, lift one another or let it be and move on. For me as a fan, it's about the legacy that is Ill Niño as it was. That said, I'm not too keen on the new singer, or their new music but I'll always listen to 20 years of legacy. And from what I've heard of LATG I love it and can't wait for the first album to drop🖤

[@cold10er]

Best comment 👌

[@ronaldtavian2449]

Yeah I'm not a fan of the new singer the first song I heard was with Sonny from pod and I was like wait what? Where's Cristian? I wasn't a fan of it honestly

[@TheBoyMongoose]

Drink every time he says "you know" 😂

[@rocktalks5706]

hahahahaa

[@DiZzAzZtErPrOdUcTiOnS]

How to blow a liver out in 10 seconds 😂😅

[@AcousticSerenity]

Be in a coma before the vid is over lol

[@therealkakitron]

"It's time to move on" (keeps using the band name) 🤣

[@rocktalks5706]

At the end of the day it's a business :/

[@toasttoasted3492]

​@@rocktalks5706 yup 😢 its pothetic

[@ewene2656]

This may be a controversial opinion, but there's room in my music collection for both bands. I get why so many fans equate ill nino with Cristian predominantly, but clearly things were not working behind the scenes and the two halves needed to do their own thing. Some fans may think both bands are now weaker for the split, but I actually think it will make both bands better. Bands need to play the music they're passionate about. If there's no passion, then the music will suffer. I don't want ill nino's music to be forced. I want all members past and present to be happy.

[@rocktalks5706]

I agree with you, Even. Let's hope for the best for both bands!

[@altinksart]

Laion athe geathe is beater en av ill nino

[@ron61584]

Both bands sound great to me

[@rocktalks5706]

Let's give both bands a chance!

[@Jbtorres2023]

I saw the new lineup couple a months ago in Orlando. Love it. Yeah, I miss Cristian but the essence of Ill Nino remains the same live. Love Marco’s energy.

[@rocktalks5706]

Thanks for watching, José. Hey man if you live in the Orlando area, please contact me at [e-mail] I´m looking for metalheads from that city

[@SnipE_mS]

You know?

[@tanitacolabraro4026]

That soul didn't leave the band 😂😂😂. You waste the soul of ill niño when Cristian left

[@timberwolvesxx7250]

love your interviews Pierre. great channel

[@rocktalks5706]

Thank you very much man! Please tell your friends about it, help me grow 😀

[@tanitacolabraro4026]

Ohh honey...your soul left with Cristian... sorry..

[@jesterm.1202]

yeah we know !!!!!

[@matt11708]

So far new ill nino is not horrible but i still love first 3 albums the best.

[@rocktalks5706]

Yeah man, those first 3 albums are pure gold!!!

[@caleber.p2069]

Well, can't say nothing about what really happened with them, but illniño was better with Chris, the new guy isn't that bad, but to my personal taste doesn't fit in at all. At the other hand we have Lions At the Gate, not even human had my attention, very catchy chorus, but too much simple, scapegoat I kinda liked but got me disappointed, I was expecting more. I'm really interested in see what latg have to offer but, I'm not with high expectations.

[@DiZzAzZtErPrOdUcTiOnS]

One think I have learned, is that Laz really seems to think you know, you know?

[@rocktalks5706]

Hahaahaha good one. Thanks for watching!

[@DiZzAzZtErPrOdUcTiOnS]

@@rocktalks5706 no problem!!! You've got a hell of a good channel here.

[@rocktalks5706]

@@DiZzAzZtErPrOdUcTiOnS Thank you very much! Please share or tell your friends about it. Help me grow :)

[@michaellara2587]

They're both good bands. No disrespect

[@JohnWayne-vf5bs]

Facts

[@danielvelas]

No they are not, they are not good anymore their new lead man just sounds like shit

[@Daniel2Saint]

We know

[@r3ap3r_snake]

Ill ninos new song is called You Know

[@rocktalks5706]

Hahahahaa

[@AlNassrFootballNewsNetwork]

It's 2024 I still bump Dead new world

[@rocktalks5706]

That album is just ok IMO. First three albums and the last one with Cristian are the best for me.

[@wadehill116]

I would have supported both bands but Dave and the current Ill Niño left a sour taste in my mouth and for that, I support Cris, Ahrue and Diego 100%. Bssically, around the time it was made public that 3 members were leaving, many fans' comments were deleted to make it look like everyone was on Dave and co's side. My comment, for example...I posted something about the fact that I will miss Cristian as he was a big part of Ill Niño for me but still wished the "new" Ill Niño well. So it wasn't disrespectful and it wasn't taking sides. My comment was removed and I was banned from the Ill Niño FB page. I DM'ed Dave Chavarri because I was actually quite disgusted by this...I had been an Ill Niño fan for many years, supporting them, buying ALL their CDs and some merch and stuff...I mean, I was crazy about Ill Niño. And they blocked me in a split second. You don't treat your loyal fans like that and when I approached Dave about it, he blamed the supposed person in charge of their FB page and promised to have me unbanned. To this day, I am still banned. Dave and co. handled their internal beef by taking it out on their fanbase (the very reason they even exist), and for that, I will no longer support or listen to the current Ill Niño.

[@rocktalks5706]

I believe you man. You know why? Because I got the same shit from Dave or whoever runs their social media. Im still blocked on their Facebook haha... Anyway, I try to focus on the music. Thanks for watching!

[@wadehill116]

@@rocktalks5706 Haha! Well there you go. No problem. Good to watch your stuff as you ask the questions many others won't.

[@rocktalks5706]

@@wadehill116 Funny, At one point I wanted that phrase to be my slogan: "We dare to ask what others won't". Then I thought people would think Im cocky hahaha. Thanks a lot again bro!

[@ALLforROME]

"Dave & the rest of the band left a sour taste in my mouth"....lmfao...we didn't need to know that dude 😂

[@Crossa]

HAH!😆 I look forward to this!

[@roberthughes286]

Hmm it has changed though. I haven't cared for the past couple of albums. Nothing has caught my attention. With every great band comes a great frontman. And while the band was hreat Christian was that centerpiece. I didn't even know he was in another band until today but I knew it was him through that voice. He is one singer with a very distinct voice. And thats very hard to find these days in a world of copy and past front men/bands. You need that type of star power to drive a band further to success. Christian has it and I think LATG have an interesting career in front of em.

[@rocktalks5706]

Very true, Robert! Let's hope for the best for both bands.

[@tanitacolabraro4026]

The music already talked...you are so messed up ...Lions at the gates rules!!

[@sondrebmik]

Sad to see how friendship can go so wrong.#violant(bitter)saint

[@rocktalks5706]

It is sad but this is typical in this kind of business :/

[@Assassin.9958]

lol well the music has done the talking, just look at the comments on both band’s latest song. Almost all the ill nino fans are disappointed. Fans keep asking for any updates on this new album & they either don’t answer or just delete the comment. It’s like they don’t even respect their fans, but still expect respect from them smh

[@thedisturbeddobermansoffic9240]

Lmao laz you were always the weakest member of Ill nino

[@keithfalconer7529]

So yes Cris lost his clean voice some & gained 60 lbs but the new songs are his style ….he really created a unique style with the alternating English/Spanish lyrics …. I saw shattered sun with soul fly and soilwork… they sounded good …. so marcos is a good singer …. But I don’t blame Cris for having the opinions he does , because they basically took his style of writing and continued it.

[@rocktalks5706]

Cristian is already losing weight. He is no goofing around with Lions at the gate!

[@rikkufan009]

Nah he hasn't moved on 😅 you tell still holds a grudge

[@KerrBox92]

can someone clear up exactly what happened to make the other guys leave?

[@rocktalks5706]

Wath the last part of the interview, the answer is there. :)

[@patrickquinnsucks]

If you know you know by Pusha T is Laz's favorite song

[@joseojeda8725]

YOU KNOW? Take a shot every time he said “you know?” He’s a 🤡

[@samuraijohn1260]

You know. Yeah I know. But then again who knows

[@rocktalks5706]

I know! XD

[@AyZeD]

Lazy "you know" pina

[@rocktalks5706]

Hahahaha...

[@brianc1889]

Aw i thought he said the new album was going to be called no mortals. That to me sounds more badass.

[@rocktalks5706]

They prefered to play with the band's name. ILL NIÑO... ILL MORTALS (immortals)...

[@iFruit9iX]

Honestly, seems like both parties have just gotten weaker. I don't think either band will really ever be able to produce the magic that old Ill Nino was able to produce. Of course, this is just my opinion. I still rock out to the songs that both bands have put out. But old Ill Nino smokes both for me. As it stands, new Ill Nino seems to have run out of creativity. "IllMortals" may very well be the worst name for an Ill Nino album that I've ever heard. It's like they have something to prove. May I suggest "STiLL RELEVANT"? And the music videos are even worse. Old Ill Nino's music videos were already weird, but seeing them headbang with dreadlocks was, at the very least, mesmerizing. But they literally did their best to wipe any hint of nappy-headedness from the band. "How Can I Live", "What You Deserve", and "Finger Painting (with the Enemy)" (for anybody who was lucky enough to see the animation) are among my favorites for sure, since they at least have interesting build ups and the energy is real. These new videos just look like they're trying too hard. Like they have to force feed the meaning into your throat because the music isn't doing the talking (ironic). Lions at the Gate is doing fairly meh in the music video department as well, but it follows the simple formula we're already used to. Now, that might sound biased, but personally, I'd rather just see the band rock out for 3 minutes than have some half-assed story with terrible acting and like 10 seconds of the song being cut out to include unnecessary dialogue. Sue me. As far as the actual music goes (arguably the most important part), what I said before still stands: the magic of old Ill Nino isn't there. Mind you, both bands are trying to stray from being the same old thing. So in that respect, they are doing a great job. Both bands are something you can easily rock out to. Lyrically, I think Ill Nino is going stronger. But Lions at the Gate is doing a much better job at being unique and fresh. Lions at the Gate is very chorus heavy and seems to rely on Cristian's voice to give those lyrics any power. Not to say I like new Ill Nino's lyrics either. They go more into detail, but also lack the intrigue of having any kind of decent symbolism. It probably could've been looked over if Cristian was doing the vocals, but I can't help but feel like I'm listening to something basic. And that's 100% bias on me. Marcos is a phenomenal fuckin' singer, but he's got some hoops to jump through if he wants to become the new sound of Ill Nino. That's all I'm saying. As for the beef between them, they just gotta get over it. Personally, I feel like Cristian is doing way better in that department. The way he talks and his overall vibe seems much more at peace with what he's saying. Laz, on the other hand, can't seem to keep eye contact for more than a second unless he's telling us to let the music do the talking. And the constant use of "you know" just makes him appear nervous. Now, that could very easily just be his mannerisms, but he still seemed pretty quick to get defensive. Regardless, as long as neither of them are going after each others throats, it's fine. The whole thing is ridiculous, so them just getting back to what they're good at (making music) is for the best.

[@rocktalks5706]

Thanks for leaving such a long comment. It means you care. I agree, the first two ill niño albums are the best by far. ONU was really good two but after that it seems they kinda lost the way. Anyway, thanks for watching please share!

[@jeffarab4947]

Revolution and confessions the best and different what other bands were doing the Latin metal mix

[@KristyTheRN]

RIP Ill Nino lol. LATG much better " you know" 😊

[@rocktalks5706]

I like both bands :)

[@xDMAN916x]

Lions at the Gate has put out the better material so far

[@rocktalks5706]

What about the new ill niño song "This is over"?

[@xDMAN916x]

@@rocktalks5706 it’s a good song

[@Aita88]

Sangre is awsome even without Machado i want more Rumba and thats what is Missing all these years!

[@MarcRizzoOfficial]

ILL NINO 2022!!!!!!!!😈

[@rocktalks5706]

Looks promising from what I saw on KZbin bootleg live videos!

[@Jay_Reacts_]

Take a shot every time you hear "you know".

[@rocktalks5706]

I would end up so drunk... hahaha

[@Jay_Reacts_]

@@rocktalks5706 I feel you! Lmao

[@ASLackey22]

I’m very surprised how many people are commenting how much better they think LATG sounds. I feel Ill Nino sounds more like they use to originally with the new lineup. When I first found out they split I thought Christian was going to be irreplaceable and that his absence would cripple the band. However Marcos holds his own very well and does an outstanding job of covering the vocals of previous songs (I’ve seen them live recently). With new songs Marcos revives the classic vocals. Cristian took credit for a lot of lyrics of the songs from his own life experiences so it does feel a bit odd hearing those songs by a new lead but you have to remember when those songs are being played it’s still a part of the bands history and Marcos isn’t trying to one up Christian. He’s just trying to satisfy the fans who might’ve missed the opportunity to see them live before and are long time fans. I wish the best for both!!

[@rocktalks5706]

Exactly. Let's wish the best for both bands. Now we got to great bands!

[@myemail2418]

Christian is what made I’ll Nino whatever y’all are now is not it change the name

[@JoshLittle-d2p]

Half the interview was you know

[@rocktalks5706]

You know!

[@jamespreston6079]

You know

[@rocktalks5706]

We know!

[@angelquintanilla1877]

Lazy sounds butthurt.

[@iFailGames]

Personally, I wish the split would have happened ages ago. They're petty drama & biases aside, the split allows Ill Nino to go back to the Latin Metal stuff, and Ahrue to write whatever modern stuff he wants. From what I've heard, both bands have put out considerably better music recently than they have in all of their career post-Confessions (with Dead New World being the only exception). It was cringe how Ill Nino was trying to fit trends. Now that we have Marc Rizzo back in the picture as well, it's only uphill from here.

[@Rammsteinfanboy2]

His bass playing was nothing to really write home about. Cristians vocals and the Latin infused guitar parts are the heart of Ill Niño. They could've replaced him at any point in time since he didn't bring nothing special to the table in terms of playing ability.

[@alexeydrachuk3984]

Current Ill Nino sounds like a mediocre Ill Nino cover band. From music perspective, this Laz guy was the weakest band member of all times and now he's talking like he really matters something for the band musical style. You know, that is pathetic.

[@rocktalks5706]

Did yo actually see them live?

[@dieselfort]

Old niño > New niño > LATG. That's just how I see it. Cristian lost his touch since Epidermia and I think I prefer this new line up to what the old one became after 2010.

[@88Clown]

Cristian and Dave fouded ill niño. Laz joined them later and now is talking ad if he's a founding member.

[@rocktalks5706]

Well, Laz has been there since the recording of the first official album so he is pretty much an original member

[@JohnWayne-vf5bs]

Not really

[@py16667]

Christian was a better bass player too 😂

[@joelopez7197]

Lo!!!..no offense!!.."LIONS-AT-THE-GATE"!! ARE WAAAYYYY BETTER THAN THE CURRENT SO CALLED WEAK PLAYERS FROM ILL-NINO!..its so obvious who's better!!..iam so glad "Christian..and Diago..and Arhure...moved on!!...so bad ass band!!🔥💪🤘🤘🤘

[@rocktalks5706]

Weak players? Even with Marc Rizzo back in the band?

[@joelopez7197]

@@rocktalks5706 mark rizzo is amazing guitar player...i just feel he has way more talent..and deserves better...i would be beyond amazing if he started a band "David kinkade...& Tony campos"!!.."Enslave part 2"!!..world scum!!💪😈🤘🤘🔥🔥..

[@Aita88]

Lions at the gate= no Rumba! no wonder ill Nino going down the shitter they doing this for years now album after album and play the real good old songs live , but now they Sound like every generic emo Metal Band! Ill Nino = Rumba is back!

[@Aita88]

@@rocktalks5706 i am baffled how dumb most of them are Ill Nino lost its Spirit even with Machado ! Now they finally go back to their Roots!

[@toasttoasted3492]

Laz is it about the music , friendship and loyalty...😂😂😂😂😂 . You need to go sleep on that 😂😂😂

[@cha0tic419]

Ya know?

[@diemtz5218]

You know? Or not know?

[@rocktalks5706]

XD

[@toasttoasted3492]

Seriously having a Confession tour 😂. Its really ashamed what happen with Ill Nino. It sucks!! Every album are epic.

[@johnnybernal6452]

Hey Rock Talks, It kinda seems like you're instigating this mess between ILL NIÑO and Lions At The Gate. Lol. Not cool, bruh.

[@rocktalks5706]

They are adults, they could say "no comment on that". It is their responsability, not mine. Im just asking questions, I didnt force them to say anything. Thanks for watching Johnny.

[@johnnybernal6452]

@@rocktalks5706 hey, well you got me there, man.

[@TheBluCorner]

Ill Nino "was" my favorite band for 20+ years and the new version is nothing but a coverband... I have nothing against the new singer, but i won't be supporting them goin forward as long as Dave still has anything to do with the band. "4" members leaving the band, 2 stayed.. yeaaaa.... the blame isn't all that hard to direct. LATG has put out 4 great songs sofar and the sky is the limit.

[@timberwolvesxx7250]

the new Ill Nino song is worth a listen, Marc Rizzo is back

[@rocktalks5706]

Agree. "This is over" is a very cool track with Rizzo in it. Killer solo!

[@ALLforROME]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@danielprice2743]

Shattered Nino. Lmao

[@rocktalks5706]

I see what you did there... XD

[@SomeFriesMothaFucka]

Laz "Y'know" Pina

[@rocktalks5706]

XD

[@presopreso1797]

You know

[@rocktalks5706]

We know! XD

[@kennysteve1]

You know