This is the hard work that makes him the player he is .
@casanovaconor8349 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewpoleski6973troll
@PeeedaPan Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest transfers in Illinois history
@Kj-gn2ex Жыл бұрын
You think?
@casanovaconor8349 Жыл бұрын
@@Kj-gn2extroll
@uralljabrones11 ай бұрын
*players
@justinmathis77076 ай бұрын
@@Kj-gn2ex yes
@davidstewart9784 Жыл бұрын
Terrance Shannon Jr. I am so glad you chose to come to Illinois. You represent the team, your city and family so well on and off the court. Already becoming an all time Illini favorite.
@magnusred2945 Жыл бұрын
This aged horribly. David Stewart you should be in jail TBH
@jvjustvibes9103 Жыл бұрын
This could not have aged worse
@matthewpoleski6973 Жыл бұрын
Bro jinxed the worst thing possible
@nathankalonji1898 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit
@Shutup35 Жыл бұрын
Y’all must be some freaky mfs in Illinois 🤣
@lawofficeoftjs13739 ай бұрын
You are a wonderful kid. I hope the Lord continues to bless us.
@davidperez-hernandez478 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to those ball boys at 5am #takesavillage
@zacharybrink5088 Жыл бұрын
That hard work is why he is great .
@1coolmister57911 ай бұрын
TJ is my son’s cousin. I remember him as a lil boy, he use to spend some nights at my house. I’ve been rooting for him since the start and still rooting for him.
@이동규-o9o9o5 ай бұрын
why dont u just say nephew
@TheORIGINALLadyJoJo3 ай бұрын
This is JUST a thought, however it could be that…He and his son’s mother are/were not married, and that TJ is related ONLY to his son and his son’s mother, therefore not to him. Again… JUUUUST a thought!
@NoahHynds Жыл бұрын
hes an inspiration frl. i want to play here so bad
@lilbird7183 Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you want to be inspired by him😳
@casanovaconor8349 Жыл бұрын
@@lilbird7183troll
@TAFProdigy Жыл бұрын
Oof
@GonzalezRay11 ай бұрын
this comment aged terribly
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
@@GonzalezRay nope
@justsiimba Жыл бұрын
i remember playing pick up ball with you and my cousin. we were all the same height, and now look at you 6’6” and we still 5’8” good luck in your nba future terrence
@zackerybarnett1890 Жыл бұрын
Bro’s voice did not sound like what I was expecting 😅
@brennanramsey49898 ай бұрын
He sound different off camera
@vrose1_7 ай бұрын
@@brennanramsey4989 what you mean by that
@Juane-ov8dz6 ай бұрын
Lol...me neither...I hope he does big things in the NBA ...This the guy ESPN should be promoting and talking about besides....you know
@acatem30749 ай бұрын
That’s why he’s the #1 NCAA 🏀 The future is bright ⭐️ 💫 🌟
@philrdaly Жыл бұрын
I was so happy when he decided to come back for another year and the growth he's shown from last year to this one is unbelievable. I-L-L!
@jvjustvibes9103 Жыл бұрын
😬
@casanovaconor8349 Жыл бұрын
@@jvjustvibes9103troll
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
@@jvjustvibes9103 update?
@benjaminhollar7462 Жыл бұрын
His jumper looks funky
@snapon29 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they haven't taken this promo down. It was good while it lasted TSJ. You made your mark on the program. Hopefully, you'll do the fanbase proud if you're found to be innocent
@poopoomangione11 ай бұрын
No need. He’s a student athlete. You can’t just delete him away.
@justinmathis77076 ай бұрын
You need to have your livelihood taken from you and maybe you’ll learn
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
You back after he was found innocent?
@VegasSportsGaming3 ай бұрын
We love Terrence. Terrence is one of the greatest University of Illinois basketball players in team history.
@WhyTeeHNDRXX2 ай бұрын
TSJ is him. glad he received reprieve from the unfortunate situation last year, hope you do great things with the TWolves in ‘sota. i’ll be cheering for ya
@jonashoop10 ай бұрын
I think bro likes christmas
@Ander173 Жыл бұрын
he’s innocent until proven guilty but these are really serious charges and it’s concerning that he was allowed to play on this basketball team by the school while they knew he was under investigation
@vrose1_ Жыл бұрын
Bro watch this video. He’s such a good guy there’s no way I believe it’s true until they have evidence
@colejames423 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Lawrence police wouldn’t tell the school anything, and no charges were brought until a few days ago. What the hell do you expect the university to do with basically no information other than an incident might have maybe allegedly occurred? The moment charges were filed, they told him to turn himself in and suspended him.
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
@@colejames423 That's not LPD's job. As director of the DIA, it was Josh Whitman's job to monitor Shannon's status once Whitman knew Shannon was being investigated for a sex crime in late September. Whitman should have known by 12/5/2023 (when the criminal complaint was filed, and the allegations were substantiated), as several reporters implied at Whitman's 12/29 PC. I expected Whitman to do his job. He was late, because he purposely didn't communicate directly with authorities in Kansas. But ultimately, Whitman did his job on 12/28/2023, when he suspended Shannon. For that, I give Whitman and the University credit.
@sunnyboateng18011 ай бұрын
Stop yapping
@justinmathis77076 ай бұрын
So you want him to be punished for an obvious lie. You a clown. You are the problem
@frankmance7922 Жыл бұрын
And that’s what it takes to be first team all-American
@thomaswoodmancy7096 Жыл бұрын
I love this dude 😎 ILL 🧡💙
@boopah43659 ай бұрын
🙄
@quaniereacts Жыл бұрын
The YT algorithm is crazy.
@jeffj83 Жыл бұрын
Now do a day in the life from when he was in Lawrence for the KU-Illinois football game...
@Jst4vdeos11 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty
@zachhazelbaker685911 ай бұрын
You should go look at the report of what she’s alleging happened. It’s nowhere near felonious rape by force fear or restraint like he’s being charged with. Actually they didn’t even have sex she’s saying he grabbed her inappropriately in a crowded bar that he didn’t restrain her and she didn’t even say anything to him just walked away. People are so quick to condemn someone there’s a reason for innocent until proven guilty.
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
@@zachhazelbaker6859 There are four days until this case's first hearing on 1/18. Let's see if the judge finds probable cause on each count (1 for rape and 1 for sexual battery). If the judge in DC District Court does (at least for 1 charge), then this case will continue, as it should.
@EvanBreitbeck6 ай бұрын
@@findlisa5 I bet you now hate the fact that Terrence was falsely accused and is, by all accounts, an innocent man
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
You mean where nothing happened?
@nellyswish_11 ай бұрын
I can’t believe he has to deal with the false accusations this is ridiculous 💯
@Pretty_BlaqGyrl9 ай бұрын
He did it to himself...don't feel bad for him.💯 Hopefully he goes to jail
@jonjondebonnett56098 ай бұрын
@@Pretty_BlaqGyrlyou a hater 😭😭
@edwardkimakaballislifekim_5788 ай бұрын
@@recap4371facts he didn’t do it
@dredaytonaway18008 ай бұрын
Wait what did I miss ????🤔🤔🤔
@FlyIlliniFly8 ай бұрын
@@Pretty_BlaqGyrl Whatever you saw random internet troll.
@christinecaronnabeard1369 Жыл бұрын
Love Terrence!!
@jvjustvibes9103 Жыл бұрын
😳
@AveryBarbee Жыл бұрын
I want to meet him one day they need to do a men’s basketball meet and greet
@EricGoldstein-m6g11 ай бұрын
Yes I am he is innocent until proven guilty. Go Illini!
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
He's innocent! Found not guilty
@treble77 Жыл бұрын
So they had to know these charges were floating around...and the university still decided to upload this. ( coaches, staff, AD, etc).
@SupaShow3110 ай бұрын
Kid is innocent. You’re a hater. You can look into the eyes of a person and see their soul. He’s a great kid with a great family.
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
update?
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
At 4:58, Shannon says, "I will always talk, and have a conversation with someone, if we did have an altercation, but, I mean, like (Underwood) said, being a leader is uncomfortable. I'm getting pretty comfortable, about being uncomfortable." Just my opinions and guesses, but this sounds like Shannon explaining how he tried to contact the alleged victim in this case by social media in the time after the incident, so perhaps in September. My guess is that she didn't respond. Again, these are just my guesses.
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
Or not
@Brandon-im8ti Жыл бұрын
we love you in the orange and blue terrance
@jvjustvibes9103 Жыл бұрын
Yikes…
@casanovaconor8349 Жыл бұрын
@@jvjustvibes9103troll
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
@@jvjustvibes9103 oops
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
@@jvjustvibes9103it was a false allegation he was found innocent totally not guilty
@2004froggy Жыл бұрын
Anyone here after he got charged?
@Carsonfranks Жыл бұрын
Me
@silverado.nation Жыл бұрын
im here. This is my opinion, doubt he did it.
@paulburton7428 Жыл бұрын
Seems super solid to me. Hard working for real. Goal oriented. Disciplined for real. Strong leadership. The team seems connected. Culturally strong. Team mates seem to trust him, even like him from watching games. Anxious to learn more about him and the allegations. Certainly a sad situation. Praying for all involved. Praying that love wins over hate!
@michaelharrison131111 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty
@Fightingillini2311 ай бұрын
I’m here after he got released
@kyleclevenger65728 ай бұрын
Damn Ubben looks so different inside from last time I was in there.
@davidconnor5874 Жыл бұрын
This might not age well................. EDIT: This aged just fine. Not guilty.
@Jst4vdeos11 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty
@zachhazelbaker685911 ай бұрын
You should go look at the report of what she’s alleging happened. It’s nowhere near felonious rape by force fear or restraint like he’s being charged with. Actually they didn’t even have sex she’s saying he grabbed her inappropriately in a crowded bar that he didn’t restrain her and she didn’t even say anything to him just walked away. People are so quick to condemn someone there’s a reason for innocent until proven guilty.
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
@@zachhazelbaker6859 Shannon was charged with felony rape because, in the state of Kansas, the digital penetration of a woman's vagina is one form of sex, non-consensual sex is rape, and both of these are alleged in this case. We'll start to know in a few days whether the judge finds probable cause for the charge of rape and the charge sexual battery. Most legal experts who have commented publicly on this case expect probable cause to be found on one or both charges. I don't expect this criminal case to be dismissed any time soon unless there is a plea agreement.
@zacharybrink50886 ай бұрын
But it did . Not guilty
@davidconnor58746 ай бұрын
@@zacharybrink5088 Glad for the kid! I'll update it.
@CalebSoloz Жыл бұрын
Illini lovers 👇
@FlyIlliniFly8 ай бұрын
Who’s here after the L to UConn? Lost by 30 to the best team this century. No shame imo. Great season for a great team and a great player. Gonna miss ya Terrence. ILLINI LEGEND 4LIFE!!!!!
@FlyIlliniFly8 ай бұрын
The charge - I saw that - that was the saddest fan moment of my life - I thought there was no way he'd be coming back. Comes back. We win the BTT. The BTT record for most points in a game was 35, TSJ AVERAGED 34. The BTT record for most points scored in a tournament was Keegan Murray in 4 games. TSJ finished 1 point behind. Scored so many points playing just 3 games. Only had 3 games since Feb. 4th not scoring 20+ points. Finished 3rd in the nation in scoring. We get to the E8 - finally the curse is broken. Averaged 28 in the first 3 March Madness games. Averaged 30 in the 7 game win streak since the Purdue game up until the UConn game in the E8. Now think about all that. That was a RIDE. LEGEND!!!!!
@breakmylegs72948 ай бұрын
You didn't see him get in the time chamber, he went back in time, and in his reality he is now playing in the final 4
@juniorbundu1492 Жыл бұрын
Algorithm crazy
@schuylersavage27610 ай бұрын
What a nice dude
@mbfinancial6 ай бұрын
TSJ 🐐
@joshm4782 Жыл бұрын
TSJ sounds like Lil Baby. Hell ya
@shawnjamison27599 ай бұрын
When does this guy go to class?
@theexclusiveedition Жыл бұрын
My favorite player this year who I won’t get to see finish. Complete bull
@silverado.nation Жыл бұрын
It made me so sad.
@zacharybrink50886 ай бұрын
Not guilty . 👍
@calebnephew45 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought that was markelle faultz?
@nltmar1618 Жыл бұрын
bro give juice wrld vibes
@gl3five10 ай бұрын
chicago
@jd3l3on Жыл бұрын
i like this kid and i’m not from illinois.
@silverado.nation Жыл бұрын
Im from illinois. Best kid ive ever seen play.
@jd3l3on11 ай бұрын
he lost to my hogs last year (illinois)!and hogs again (tournament) when he was at texas tech. hogs achilles hill. but not this year as Hogs not looking good this year 😂😂😂
@silverado.nation11 ай бұрын
@@jd3l3on I am really sad that illini lost against purdue on friday, but overall we are actually doing alright without him. Wish we could have him back though.
@Fightingillini236 ай бұрын
Anyone here after he was found innocent?
@jasonlong91206 ай бұрын
Yup tsj is the man.
@ashleybroyles8425 ай бұрын
Technically
@illforever4153 Жыл бұрын
HUMBLE MF GOAT
@patcogni7892 Жыл бұрын
Hope this wasn't filmed in Kansas
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
You mean where nothing happened?
@dennisgriffin67425 ай бұрын
Filmed in your mom’s bedroom.
@ronniemayor29011 ай бұрын
This aged very well
@zachhazelbaker685911 ай бұрын
You should go look at the report of what she’s alleging happened. It’s nowhere near felonious rape by force fear or restraint like he’s being charged with. Actually they didn’t even have sex she’s saying he grabbed her inappropriately in a crowded bar that he didn’t restrain her and she didn’t even say anything to him just walked away. People are so quick to condemn someone there’s a reason for innocent until proven guilty. Your comment isn’t aging well.
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
@@zachhazelbaker6859 Shannon was charged with felony rape because, in the state of Kansas, the digital penetration of a woman's vagina is one form of sex, non-consensual sex is rape, and both of these are alleged in this case. We'll start to know in a few days whether the judge finds probable cause for the charge of rape and the charge sexual battery. Most legal experts who have commented publicly on this case expect probable cause to be found on one or both charges. I don't expect this criminal case to be dismissed any time soon unless there is a plea agreement.
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
Your comment aged worse
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
@@findlisa5found not guilty
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
found not guilty
@simeonfuller5389 Жыл бұрын
Go Tj Go!
@LewieVille3111 ай бұрын
Unsuspended my guy
@reidroberson49778 ай бұрын
Future maverick
@Chuck-x4b5 ай бұрын
Good kids
@tylerstrako179 Жыл бұрын
welp
@davidholmes99199 ай бұрын
When does he go to class?
@dennisgriffin67425 ай бұрын
You apparently didn’t watch the whole video. It was filmed during finals week and he’s already completed his last final.
@topfloorfitness5359 Жыл бұрын
Massaging a grown man's feet with your bare hands is nuts. That's a pretty sus career choice
@blapez307111 ай бұрын
Let him play, innocent till proven guilty
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
Let him be suspended, until his case is resolved.
@jasKrofl11 ай бұрын
L @@findlisa5
@justinmathis77076 ай бұрын
@@findlisa5you are what’s wrong with the system
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
@@findlisa5 dumbass
@drumf Жыл бұрын
W mans
@MattSwitzer Жыл бұрын
man...this is just sad to watch now...
@Fightingillini2311 ай бұрын
I’m here after he got released
@sweetsariah326711 ай бұрын
He is my cousin
@jayboek2854 Жыл бұрын
$ hungry chicks now a days. Better to video your every move if you're famous.
@treble77 Жыл бұрын
That was known 30 yrs ago. Check the FSU kicker scott Bentley from way back
@ashleybroyles8425 ай бұрын
ILL
@sweetsariah326711 ай бұрын
I'd anyone worried about him
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
I pray Terrence Shannon Jr. can get through this. I want him to focus on his studies and training. I want him to do the best he can to understand and assist his lawyers to advance his legal arguments. He can absolutely get through this. He must hang in there over the next week or two, when critical steps will occur in his criminal case in Kansas and his federal case in Illinois. When the right time comes (he and his lawyers will know when), I expect him to simplify his situation and take steps to move past his troubles. This might involve a plea agreement. If TSJ can't play basketball for the University of Illinois, he should still continue to train and prepare for when his criminal case is resolved. Personally, I hope that change can occur in March of this year, if not before. So, by June, things could be a lot different regarding his future. His lawyers can help him with that. His family can support him. Many fans will support him too. With all that in mind, I don't worry. I think TSJ can be okay.
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
nope
@MichaelMcKenna-qs7rq11 ай бұрын
That jumper’s getting swatted into third row in the G league
@youngquattro7866 Жыл бұрын
Just got charged with rape
@silverado.nation Жыл бұрын
yeah not proven he did it yet
@Jst4vdeos11 ай бұрын
Charged, not convicted.
@BeastxxWar9 ай бұрын
Read the allegations. A woman said he touched him inappropriately in a bar, and in Kansas they call that "rape". He is innocent until proven guilty.
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
Just got ruled not guilty
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
it was a false allegation he was found innocent totally not guilty
@home0wner-1 Жыл бұрын
The school was made aware of these rape allegations in September, yet continued to pump out content celebrating this guy throughout the season? Big time OOF moment. Now these videos seem extremely tone-deaf from the Illinois administration in hindsight.
@casanovaconor8349 Жыл бұрын
yea exactly. this was all 90 days ago, allegedly. why the long wait?
@dinogaming4419 Жыл бұрын
University was not aware that it was for rape nor were they provided any evidence or information at all other than that he was under investigation. They'd be essentially suspending him blindly. People like you need to stop make comments on things you don't understand.
@colejames423 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the school wasn’t aware of how serious the allegations were, and they weren’t given any info by the PD in Lawrence when they reached out. Not really sure what you expect the university to do with that total lack of information. You think they should just suspend him on the basis of … pretty much nothing? In any case, allegations are allegations. Hopefully over time, we’ll get more details on the whole incident and everyone’s response to it. It’s too early to be judging anything at this point.
@Jst4vdeos11 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty
@zachhazelbaker685911 ай бұрын
You should go look at the report of what she’s alleging happened. It’s nowhere near felonious rape by force fear or restraint like he’s being charged with. Actually they didn’t even have sex she’s saying he grabbed her inappropriately in a crowded bar that he didn’t restrain her and she didn’t even say anything to him just walked away. People are so quick to condemn someone there’s a reason for innocent until proven guilty.
@williamfletcher99218 ай бұрын
🥺🥲
@cabinboybp111 ай бұрын
well that didn't age well
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
Your comment didn't age well
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
Yes it did. He was always innocent jury just confirmed it
@buena4415 Жыл бұрын
aged terribly
@zachhazelbaker685911 ай бұрын
You should go look at the report of what she’s alleging happened. It’s nowhere near felonious rape by force fear or restraint like he’s being charged with. Actually they didn’t even have sex she’s saying he grabbed her inappropriately in a crowded bar that he didn’t restrain her and she didn’t even say anything to him just walked away. People are so quick to condemn someone there’s a reason for innocent until proven guilty. Your comment isn’t aging well.
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
@@zachhazelbaker6859 Shannon was charged with felony rape because, in the state of Kansas, the digital penetration of a woman's vagina is one form of sex, non-consensual sex is rape, and both of these are alleged in this case. We'll start to know in a few days whether the judge finds probable cause for the charge of rape and the charge sexual battery. Most legal experts who have commented publicly on this case expect probable cause to be found on one or both charges. I don't expect this criminal case to be dismissed any time soon unless there is a plea agreement.
@BeastxxWar9 ай бұрын
Your comment didn't age well.
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
This comment didn't age well
@kendallhughes750711 ай бұрын
When you engage in *USUAL SUSPECT* behavior, you jeopardize your future potential riches. SmH
@mattjohnson40806 ай бұрын
Can you update us on what happened?
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
Not guilty. Racist
@kendallhughes75076 ай бұрын
Dont worry, in time instincts will kick in and he'll eventually do something to land himself in the Big House....smh
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
@@kendallhughes7507 damn you just ate a big bowl of racist flakes
@Jst4vdeos6 ай бұрын
@@kendallhughes7507 he has way better manners than you
@kurules307210 ай бұрын
Travesty he’s playing. What does this say to women of sexual assault? Illinois should be embarrassed and ashamed
@bradyrhodess9 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty
@sebastianmorber1166 ай бұрын
ashamed of what? He's innocent
@Josh-st6ov6 ай бұрын
?
@ziongreen54146 ай бұрын
He was found innocent like he told the school Wich shows the relationship between the school and their athletes
@justinmathis77076 ай бұрын
You a punk. I accuse you of touching my son (who doesn’t exist) you should go to jail until you prove yourself innocent
@boopah43659 ай бұрын
Cant believe this thug is still playing..
@Quandel126229 ай бұрын
Bro he seems so nice I bet it’s just another one of these cases where he’s just accused and he didn’t actually do it
@boopah43659 ай бұрын
@@Quandel12622 yeah, I suppose..I've read all the details I could find and it seems like he's guilty...But I hear ya.
@igiveup126 ай бұрын
thug is crazy
@sebastianmorber1166 ай бұрын
lmao he was found innocent and the prosecution had no evidence, why don't you inform yourself before insulting a great basketball player?
@Josh-st6ov6 ай бұрын
?
@_Michael.Knight11 ай бұрын
Innocent til proven guilty yes... but if Illinois knew about this situation back in September, he shouldn't have been allowed to play simple..
@poopoomangione11 ай бұрын
So if someone gets accused of something no matter what they can’t play? F that
@_Michael.Knight11 ай бұрын
@@poopoomangione Look what’s happening now, he’s not playing.. it’s a distraction, should’ve been taken care of in Sept, Situation sucks for all parties involved but imo I believe that’s the best way to go about it..
@poopoomangione11 ай бұрын
@@_Michael.Knight He’s not playing because the Kansas DA decided to make it a charge. Charge vs. accusation are totally different. No way anyone is gonna suspend a player based on an accusation alone.
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
@@poopoomangione Actually, regarding Division of Intercollegiate Athletics (DIA) policy, a criminal charge is one form of a substantiated allegation. If it is a felony criminal charge, then it is a major offense according to DIA policy, and, while it isn't yet resolved, it can result in a suspension of a student athlete from team activities. This is exactly TSJ's situation right now regarding the University of Illinois DIA. So, related to your post, Kansas DA Jennifer Tatum charged Shannon with felony rape and sexual battery on 12/5, AD Witman suspended Shannon on 12/28 based on those criminal charges (which count as substantiated allegations of major offenses), the DIA 3-person panel upheld Shannon's suspension and made his suspension indefinite (so until his criminal case is resolved).
@findlisa511 ай бұрын
Not quite so simple Michael. The University of Illinois DIA must have a "substantiated allegation" according to DIA policy, not just info that a student athlete is being interviewed or investigated by police, as Shannon was by the LPD back in September. So, it wasn't until 12/05/2023, that a strong form of that substantiated allegation existed, namely the filed criminal complaint. Finally, the DIA had to possess that document. AD Josh Witman should have known out it by communicating directly with the relevant authorities in Kansas on a regular basis. Whitman said he didn't, which was unfortunate, since this was arguably his responsibility. Yet, when the Kansas court later issued a warrant for Shannon's arrest on 12/27, Whitman finally obtained a copy of the criminal complaint from social media, and suspended Shannon on 12/28. So, IMO, Shannon should have been suspended on or just after 12/5, as several reporters implied in the Q&A at the end of Whitman's 12/29 press conference.