SciCraft 135: New Furnace Array Project

[@hjbarber]

"we need to place the last couple thousand blocks" is said so casually that it is actually infuriating.

[@lollerich]

And the 2 million glass blocks that were used up over time....

[@abed3111]

Just mildly

[@wtechboy18]

Like, I feel like playing on the SciCraft server necessarily demands an absurd amount of patience and willingness to do long-running menial tasks.

[@Mikemk_]

It's actually not a lot. 1 inventory full of blocks (including off hand) is 2,368

[@AlexK-sk4qb]

Filthy casual

[@SparJar]

"If you're more organized that we are..." Do these people even exist?

[@fish_citizen]

No.

[@brennanruiz1803]

I heard that and I was just like “????”

[@selgfabi9380]

Grian: Who is this guy

[@TimStamper89]

I love the understatements and the humility of these minecraft genius'

[@TheAsvarduilProject]

@@TimStamper89 To be 100% fair - they really have no need to boast. Their work speaks for their knowledge and abilities. The fact that we're seeing this, proves their mastery of MineCraft.

[@manuelolival949]

18:34 famous last words

[@Cera_01]

He has become too powerful. Someone has to stop him before he automates all of us.

[@m0n4rch911]

Don't fight ur overlords puny hooman. Ascend.

[@TimStamper89]

Your residence is futile yet noted.

[@joshhorrocks9367]

He’s gonna be the start of the matrix

[@MegaMineStudios]

Im waiting for the day he automates his video

[@jesperhustad]

*Important:* idiot-proofing never change ilmango, never change! :D

[@justus8675]

"I do not see anybody inserting empty shulker boxes ..." ....

[@jesperhustad]

@@justus8675 haha yeah, that' s gonna go wrong lol. Never underestimate the idiot

[@asurethedm]

*GRYAN*

[@livedandletdie]

Blood AbysS mango should be grateful that Grian isn't on the Scicraft server. There's only so much idiot proofing one can do. Grian is the bane of all idiot proof systems.

[@rexgeissler1]

Yes blood abysS

[@jakeaivilo3821]

You are insane that you knew immediatly, that the hitbox of the cocobean in second stage would be perfect in that case.

[@MrDingdong979]

You're cute. He obviously didn't know it right away, he tried around what works and what doesn't and then recorded it. That's why he has bonemeal on this hotbar before the cut.

[@jakeaivilo3821]

@@MrDingdong979 but why not the cocobean?

[@MrDingdong979]

@@jakeaivilo3821 Like I said, he played around with the concept. He switched between items in his hotbar and in his build.

[@MrDingdong979]

@@karlsmink That's true and yet, if you think about it's fairly obvious that it wasn't like he looked at the contraption and said "Hey, a second growing stage cocoa bean and we're set".

[@samwolfe1000]

@@MrDingdong979 Yeah it seems like a bit of conspirasy on Ilmango's side, not beeng completely honest on his workflow. In his defense, he doesn't do this consistantly. For example just before the cocoa bean intuition at 20:46 he sais "I was thinking". This suggests he isn't deliberately hypocritical, and thinks the role of acting is just to present his thought process in a fallowable, 'authentic' way.

[@henryzhang3961]

4:53 I cant think of many people who are more organized than scicraft is

[@igorplebanczyk]

Me : i've got 18 stacks of glass What do i need that much glass? ilmango and other scicraft : have 2million glass yeah need more

[@livedandletdie]

Not only that, gnembon said that his simple slime farm will get you 30 thousand slime balls per hour... my first thought was, I'm glad if I can craft 1 or 2 Sticky pistons... what would I need 30 thousand or more slime balls for? The same with Iron Farms or Wood Farms or Cobble Generators, I don't need that many items. Gold Farms, nah, Ice farms, nah... I mean these things are impressive, but on a single player survival why the fuck would I need so many items that it's silly...

[@roridev]

@@livedandletdie to make more farms like it, so its faster for you to do large scale building or something like that. Sure that most people wont need all of those items alone, but add some friends to it and it would be even more helpful.

[@ShiraKiryuu]

@@livedandletdie large scale builds, of course. You will always need thousands upon thousands of materials on huge builds. I have a couple of thousands of stone stored and it's still not enough with the building I'm doing. Same goes with redstone stuff as well.

[@igorplebanczyk]

@@livedandletdie I've made ilmango's 0 tick bamboo farm and I've ran it 30 minutes, got 20 doublechests of bamboo and I don't know what to do with that I'm playing on the multiplayer server so I could sell it, but one friends already has a bamboo shop

[@boggless2771]

@@igorplebanczyk fuel for furnaces. You can combine it with a cobble generator and make a stone shop. People are always in need of stone.

[@kindalas]

I really enjoy this style of informative brainstorming. I've learned a couple of extra tricks that I'll be applying to my builds. I really like the trap door launch system. I've been using fence gates for ages.

[@geoffreytian3969]

As a student in engineering, I really appreciate the effort put into your specifications!

[@salem_boi2537]

mango: a furnace smelts 360 items per hour. me: ok so no one should need more that 50. mango: lets go for 1000 and we can always expand it if we need more

[@FaithfulMC]

"I don't see anyone putting in empty shulker boxes" Oh, you will...

[@boggless2771]

And that doesnt seem to hard to implement either. You can make a shulker box dispenser that breaks after 4 game ticks, and read the output from a comparator. Then if the the shulker was empty, the comparator is off, and you can use that signal to turn off a hopper that is timed to take out that shulker box. Then you can also add a non stackable item detector to make sure the item is a shulkerbox. It makes it much more idiot proof.

[@BenoitBoero]

definitely the best intro of youtube.

[@abed3111]

True

[@samuelele]

Have to laugh at it every time

[@RyanEglitis]

I liked the requirements document at the beginning - it's like you're doing a normal software development project.

[@simonyu2496]

Cake is directional, you can only eat from one side. Most scicraft quote

[@tommyvansante3973]

Biome *generates* Scicraft: im about to clear out this mans whole chunks

[@skytern1838]

20:58 That's thinking outside the box at its finest.

[@samuelele]

„If you‘re better organized than we are“ love you too.

[@alexties6933]

Its cute how you asume someone is going to recreate that hahaha

[@Arrynek01]

What I find the most amazing about all these insanities is the chunk loading dothat they deploy to make the server load chunks even though no one is there.

[@Shuroii]

@@Arrynek01 honestly I'm more amazed by the things they do to the nether portals (update suppression to make portal blocks without obsidian) for (a) farm(s)

[@mrkirby8622]

@@Shuroii Update suppression is insane. Like what the fck

[@dramwertz4833]

@@mrkirby8622 there are much cooler things imo but yeah update surpression is top 5 or top 10

[@jakewaitart9507]

When you spend 5 hours designing a vertical furnace array with 64 furnaces that would fit in a 7x7 tower last night and then ilmango shows you up drastically lmao

[@livedandletdie]

I mean, I usually fit a lot more than 64 furnaces in anything, 64 8*8 So I make a room that's 8*8 make floor walls and ceiling into furnaces now look except for entrance, I got 382 furnaces. They're not in a furnace array, they are most definitely not fueled, and they are pretty much unused. I mean if I wanted to make a furnace array, it would be for complicated smelting recipes that would take several stages of smelting, but since this is minecraft and not something complicated like Factorio, I don't really see a need for it. Hence why I play minecraft casually... in my endless labyrinths beneath the surface.

[@livedandletdie]

And when I say endless, it's literally I don't know how far it goes because after years you stop counting and forgetting.

[@tyrannus00]

@@livedandletdie well in factorio you actually have to make furnace arrays, simply because you have to handle thousands and possibly even millions of items. Guess what, sci-craft Handles such amounts too, so it's pretty obvious why an array is worth it. Btw factorio is great

[@AlexK-sk4qb]

I mean this is all he does besides work.

[@tripleaffirmative5p]

@@AlexK-sk4qb the fuck is your problem?

[@levia7517]

"What can be perfect for this gap ?" "Oh, coco bean stage 2" how he can think to this thing xD

[@ITpanda]

Was going to start build your old one today on my survival server. So Happy!

[@simpson6700]

you'd think idiot proofing wasn't necessary on a server like SciCraft.

[@Jo-rz6bs]

Oreo exists

[@Anthony-vu8bl]

Mango, aka the only man in the world using cocoa beans not in the way anyone else intends to

[@brandonschreiber6688]

@Jeronimo Stupenengo Pefaur he uses them to allign minecarts, so that wouldn't affect anything

[@tyrannus00]

@Jeronimo Stupenengo Pefaur he makes cookie out of them afterwards

[@Jakernaut]

I can’t tell if that’s black concrete or the void Edit: why do I have 252 likes lol

[@racernatorde5318]

You cant see the stars -> no void -> black concrete and glas

[@Jakernaut]

Racernator De there are stars in the void?

[@racernatorde5318]

@@Jakernaut Hm, I think I was playing too much Skyfactory of late. But wasnt there something with texture in the void? Looking like small stars but without movement?

[@livedandletdie]

That's the void. The void is completely black.

[@manuelocana8074]

It's black concrete. You can see the void behind it in blue color when the camera rises 0:16

[@skyhawkslcb18]

"i really don't see anyone throwing an empty shulker box in there" idiots: "hold my pickaxe"

[@mrmaxmondays]

Anybody else stoked when a new vid comes out? Like I seriously only wait for ilmango vids

[@anonymouscommentator]

Yeah, finally a new SciCraft episode!!

[@Evanski]

Scicraft 987: we have made a machine that can consume every block in a world Smelt the ores Harvest wood Put water and lava into buckets And atuomated everything so all we need to do is afk to play the game

[@selkamoykky9330]

All we have to do is not play the game to play the game

[@cosmo1248]

And it builds new machines to be even more efficient

[@alexanderlea7882]

if only they could craft pistons afk

[@orgestdeliu1503]

OH YESSSS! ANOTHER SCICRAFT EPISODE😊

[@phoenixsspark6150]

You just have to love every scicraft episode!

[@gildeddrake1479]

"it's probably better if you have the large one"

[@jacobacon2158]

Your videos are so cool! Thanks for existing!

[@TerribleDevoloper]

This is the best comment ever

[@uncluckable6535]

Hey! You can sort out empty shulkers before they get to the dispenser. If there's a single input for shulker boxes, then the empties aren't a big deal at all since you can just pull them out right there. Individual inputs per module would be a lot. Perhaps a button or a timer to lock each module after inputting so that shulkers with new items go to the next module. Awesome stuff, tho. Love the solution for filling the hoppercart perfectly. By button, I mean maybe send an item to a hopper or dropper to tell the system to bypass the module in use. When the job has finished, pull the item out and send it back. Obviously, you can reuse the shulker boxes for the output. Can even have different routes for filled shulkers, partial shulkers, and empty shulkers that come back because of partial boxes being input. Part of the storage system on your patreon server checks the fullness of input boxes to determine if they should be sent to a loader, bulk storage, or back to where empty boxes go since they'd break it. Its the cyan circuit, I think, if you want to check it out. Cyan and pink, maybe, because the "contents or no contents?" and "full or not full?" are separate functions. iirc, its pretty dumb actually. On second thought, don't look at it. I'm 9k% certain I can make a better one.

[@Komatic5]

"we need to place the last couple of blocks" is said so casually lmao

[@DreamApostle128]

it was sooooo casually u forget "thousands" XD

[@jackradzelovage6961]

not important: fuel efficiency ah, someone who speaks my language!

[@ExperimentalIdea]

If you want to have support for empty shulker boxes I'd recommend using Pallapalla's shulker unloader, which can be easily modified to unload shulkers via a hopper minecart. Also would be a bit more compact & the emptied shulkers won't get into the item output just the same as the one your using now. :)

[@zosanabria1619]

*relaxing guitar music as the camera pans over an enormous expanse of bedrock where the world itself has been peeled aeay*

[@bk_______]

I don’t understand much of this, but it is really fascinating none the less. Keep up the amazing work of blowing peoples minds:)

[@DerrickJolicoeur]

The types of problem-solving you guys do day-in and day-out is the stuff I love. The way you pace your videos seems to be just perfect for me to follow along and try to think one step ahead, funnily enough I predicted each and every step in the glorious minecart sandwich you built to accurately measure out items. Great solution!

[@tyrannus00]

Did you even think of the cocoa bean? 😂

[@rubenwijmenga965]

Why not use blaze rods if you want to fuel the furnaces, you get those straight out of your blaze farm and they smelt 12 items each.

[@frenesisseredsmoker1831]

I finaly know why his name is ilmango... its because he make redstone contraption with plants !! Like the pickle storage or the furnace using cocoa bean...

[@Michael-zh2cu]

Frénésisse RedSmoker Damn that’s crazy but I don’t remember asking

[@SpacefarerIndustries]

it wouldn't be that complicated to add in a prevention system for empty shulker boxes if it was a single check done before they were distributed. You could just put it right behind the receptacle and it would filter out empty ones before they went off to the different arrays.

[@tetsujin_144]

2:30 - Designing a new furnace array, got something huge in mind, will take a while to design in creative (Cut to a 16 furnace minecart-fed array)

[@BlackEyedGhost0]

Combining the reliability of a hopper chain with the long timing capability of the multi-item hopper clock is brilliant.

[@HawkeGaming]

6:47 At this point I started laughing hysterically at the name of the next point

[@shawnkampf1114]

Mumbo and ilmango posted at the same time.

[@InternetTaliban]

True

[@abed3111]

The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

[@snowy5363]

I understood absolutely nothing but I was put to aww couldn’t stop watching lol

[@dagloop2112]

Me: Struggles to build a rollercoaster in Minecraft. Ilmango: 16:19

[@enermatrix4053]

Using iron bars and cocoa beans to get the perfect alignment of hopper minecarts is something you'll only see and hear in Scicraft!

[@over00lordunknown12]

18:18 Couldn’t you detect an empty Shulker Box by taking a pulse off of the Shulker Box dispenser and put it though a repeater and send it to the piston that breaks the Shulker, to detect if the Shulker was empty just take a signal off the comparator, and then lock the repeater off if there is a signal, that way if the comparator has a signal it blocks the signal from the dispenser from breaking the Shulker since it has items.

[@revelmonger]

Important: "Grian Proofing"

[@Dwarficus]

I think that instead of "idiot-proofing", the minecraft community should call it "Grian-proofing" and should test as if they were Grian or were on a server with someone like Grian. I'm not saying Grian is an idiot, far from it, he's amazing (did you see that dragon in the current Hermitcraft) but he does have a nature ability to break all but the simplest of redstone builds.

[@sethakins4029]

*Stroheim flashbacks intensify*

[@davidperkins9484]

Your are the best!!! Thanks for the great videos!!

[@scottc1115]

Just going to casually use cocoa beans in the process to set up my furnace array. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

[@Arnold1987]

"i think 1000 furnaces should be fine" he said casually.... fast forward to next episode.... 1728 furnace array has been build :/ absolutely crazy!

[@jonathanpryzby4029]

Earlier today I was just thinking that there are no Minecraft youtubers with a furnace array up what I need, then 5 hours later this comes out

[@Vaternahm]

Ur crazy man.... So much dedication

[@irisinthedarkworld]

I feel like a genius because a few months ago I came up with a furnace system that looks almost exactly like this

[@mathyoooo2]

Why not have an additional sorter for sorting out empty shulker boxes?

[@tyrannus00]

Because it's not so simple I honestly wouldn't know how to do it

[@LPKelner]

@@tyrannus00 Can't you just dispense the box, check if it has a comparator output, break it and sort it by the result you got from the check? Doesn't seem so complicated, assuming I didn't miss something.

[@am_not_banana_ama1927]

LPKelner Its primarily a concession to lag and compactness. Empty box detection isn't necessarily complicated, but when you scale up (like a 1,000 furnace array), having an extra hopper in addition to more redstone components makes the whole thing significantly laggier, and expands the vertical size. "Don't put in an empty shulker box" is like the cardinal rule of Minecraft storage systems, so I don't see it being an issue for them.

[@dramwertz4833]

@@am_not_banana_ama1927 It will be with oreo near it lmao

[@wassim4706]

Hey ilmango! I wanted to ask you whether or not you've tried, or at least seen, the enderman and melon farms? Like, endermen fall down a shaft with melons growing on the side, pick one up while falling and, when they die, you get both pearls and melons. I personally dont think efficiency can go too far with such a concept, but I'm kind of curious to see or hear your thoughts on it :D. Amazing video by the way, as always >:D.

[@tyrannus00]

Maybe comment this on gnembons videos he has a series called fun farms for exactly this kind of stuff

[@junda_5322]

@@tyrannus00 toxic assss

[@tyrannus00]

@@junda_5322 What is wrong with you?

[@wallace7034]

"Last couple thousand blocks" 😬

[@admchin]

I tried making a similar system in bedrock. Had issues getting an exact count of items and my triple speed shulker box loader kept sitting on the edge of hopper hitboxes when breaking. This video is inspiring me to try again.

[@jacksonkauflin8024]

The person going to put in an empty shulker box: "I'm gonna end this man's whole career."

[@spencerhicks2287]

"One thousand furnaces, we can always make it larger"

[@lool8421]

beginning: broken bedrock on survival me: wait, that's ille... also me: realizes it's scicraft so it's possible

[@shamukhan1724]

Probably the only server where contemplating whether 1000 furnaces are enough on not is a valid question

[@actualperson1971]

Mom! I want factorio! Mom: No, we have factorio at home. Factorio at home:

[@Reevin]

I think ilmango would have a mind explosion if mojang ever implemented upgradable tiers of hoppers.

[@iscrewyouall]

I think ilmango's tryna be a vlogger now with that bgm lol

[@BrakeTheGame]

I love your videos, you are amazing

[@aasigangforlife1601]

EPIC VIDEO

[@BulllRush]

Epic perimeter is EPIC

[@adamminner]

Are you still doing sciblock? Love the videos either way

[@piguy5450]

ty mango

[@Per_Ragnar]

i use my two normal furnaces with hoppers and chest to automate the process, and here he is like, "Oh yeah lets do 1000 furnaces, and we can add more if we need too".

[@phil_5617]

instead of the debug option maybe use a filter on the input ;)

[@lamegamertime]

Yeah, but they'd still need to be able to debug just in case.

[@tyrannus00]

Lol they want to smelt not only glad ya fool there are other smeltables too and apart from that it you want to build 1k item filters sure why not go ahead but you surely need a beefy computer for that

[@phil_5617]

Nate Wilson yeah true

[@phil_5617]

tyrannus because I have an idea I'm a fool? And do you think they play on a raspberry pi? This machine will smelt like 10 different items in the end, you prob. don't want 5k baked potatoes.

[@mawcheen]

@@phil_5617 irish people do...

[@hasanlituran5895]

4:20 You guys have a lot of blaze rods produced by the new nether fortress farm. Use that as fuel, it is simply better and faster to produce

[@nidhiprasad9673]

Is there a vid on that farm i cant find:(

[@hasanlituran5895]

@@nidhiprasad9673 yes search for gnembon wither skeleton farm

[@nidhiprasad9673]

@@hasanlituran5895 I've already seen that vid but had no idea it's been built on scicraft...

[@hasanlituran5895]

@@nidhiprasad9673 I think they have it built already

[@dramwertz4833]

@@hasanlituran5895 id guess charcoal will be faster tbh

[@bowiemtl]

I know it literally doesn't matter but am I the only one annoyed by the fact that he is gonna use an array of 1000 furnaces instead on 1024

[@jana731]

Why are you annoyed by that?

[@adamrezabek9469]

@@jana731 1024 is nice, round number

[@whiterabbit9341]

"the only way is to get the lava buckets from lava lakes" laughs in 1.17

[@TheAsvarduilProject]

@ilmango - Question. What *would* the most lag-efficient furnace array in the current minecraft version look like, exactly?

[@Unknown-bi7mf]

Yes

[@matts.5512]

How about using a piston bolt to transport your input items to all the furnace? Faster transport means more furnace’s, means more item and longer clock. 😁

[@land1614]

When ur so early that you cant find any funny comments...

[@troemax]

haha, that was funny :D

[@todabsolute]

Couldn't you just use coal from nether wither skeleton farm as a fuel source?

[@MrDingdong979]

Tree farms are faster

[@todabsolute]

@@MrDingdong979 +

[@todabsolute]

@@MrDingdong979 but it gives much mor other loot

[@MrDingdong979]

@@todabsolute Like what? They got faster farms for bones and they have all the skulls they will ever need.

[@racernatorde5318]

Do they actually have a running wither skeleton farm at the moment?

[@JosephRooks]

That music at the start sounded like it was gonna turn into a Jonathan Coulton song

[@hyper9374]

Ayyyy new scicraft episode! Hey btw is the skyblock server dead? What happened?

[@ImJuustPro]

Nice video!

[@InternetTaliban]

Yeee scicraft episode

[@ThunderClawShocktrix]

do you think honey blocks will be enough to convince sci craft to go to 1.15?

[@Lyktan-ed5jn]

Love u ilmango

[@KarachoBolzen]

I don't get why exactly we aren't just putting the lowermost minecart on a detector rail? We're already using a sloped rail to send it off anyways, we might as well just make that a detector rail and see if it has the right amount of items, right?

[@carsonbrice3137]

My mind is blown

[@8martian8]

Automatic obsidian farm idea: Wither powered, using end pillars that keep regenerating due to immortal end crystals. Please like even if u don't understand

[@PanNic97]

Was tried already ages ago, not reliable sadly

[@yaszuo9314]

Only 1000 furnace array. That should be fine. He says it so casually. REEEEE

[@bbnnmm9]

Awesome build.... how the hell do you come up with this stuff lol amazing 👏

[@troemax]

I NEVER clicked so fast on a video! Grüße aus Deutschland :)

[@rocket2739]

Mind : blown

[@kylemclellan6824]

Cool