Subaru Lineartronic CVT Technical Training

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[@jasoncarpp7742]

Fascinating. I'd like to see the Lineartronic CVT offered here in the USA, that along with the EE20 Boxer Diesel engine.

[@dezmaan4922]

Good video showing the rev meter during the drive.

[@masterplan447]

Every day there’s a Subaru recall..... amazing

[@uberdang830]

Where? And for what. A brake light switch? Tokata air bags that are in every major auto manufacturer?

[@masterplan447]

Last one is about oil leaking into engine parts where it shouldn’t., high crash risk .....affects 2018 /19 outbacks ,foresters and another one I don’t recall.... literally one every week....and they’re mayor flaws, affecting transmition,and all dangerous!

[@Hallowsaw]

@@masterplan447 yet, subarus are more reliable since 2017 since they have ever been. Look at the 2000s and tell me differently. 4eat problems, blown gaskets, oil consumption

[@stevecampbell7620]

The chain design has been used for many years in FWD transmissions the chain will outlast the car. In my experience (40 plus years a dealer mechanic now retired) anything new is never going to work. But given 5 to 10 years becomes the norm. Example: FWD, Electronic fuel injection, electronic ignition, ABS brakes, Air Bags, heck even seat belts they all had great detractors, we don't give them a second thought today.

[@ELP1125]

Steve Campbell and that's the scary thing. That logic can apply to ANYTHING

[@NatNat-yi3hx]

My chain burst and i dont see why..... now i get it fix and di car is jumping like a frog when im moving off

[@vantom6194]

I have a 2014 forester XT 72,000 km with a sealed and untouched CVT still work like charm and its a Japanese made...most of Subaru CVT problems came from US made Subaru.. Australia,Europe and here in Philippines(all made in Japan) has very little reported incident regarding its CVT transmission

[@SubaruAmbassadorRobert]

All Subaru CVTs are made in Gunma Japan and shipped here fully assembled. ;-)

[@vectraB97]

Cvt failure is more common when pulling trailer. I got trailer hitch on my levorg at 38000km. 10000km later it's basically a dead cvt. Only 600km of those 10000km was with snowmobile on trailer.

[@adiemus5]

Just changed the front and rear diff fluid on my 2013 legacy, it is definitely the one shown in the video.

[@SuperBuzzy57]

I just purchased a 2018 Forester, I traded in a 2012 Forester with 35,000 , his and hers shift with 3 speeds. Great car, nice pickup at higher speeds, and fun to drive in the city. My brand new Forester ( 11 miles on it when purchased) now has 1152 miles on it. I was incapacitated as far as any lengthy driving for about 10 weeks in between the 3 months of ownership . Since I wasn't able to drive much of anywhere, except to medical appointments, the grocery store and the pharmacy. This period was all city driving during snowy and slush. My wife hasn't driven for over 25 years , after near fatal vehicle accident. I am the sole driver of the " vehicle. After the weather cleared a month back , I was able to road test my new ride and I was comfortable that everything was broke in just fine. After some field testing .My independent testing including hill climbing , acceleration, standing start and most important R to D and D to R , cold , warm and hot. I feel like I gave away a very good car , with a responsive throttle and excellent hauling capacity. The new Forester has all the performance of a Roto- Tiller and sadly , with just over 1100 miles on it , I'm hearing noises I would expect from a transfer case in an old tractor. The Forester feels like you're wheeling around in golf cart with an old centrifugal clutch. And even worse , when going from Reverse to Drive, plan on being a sitting duck as traffic run up on you With your extra waiting time , sitting there , you can take two drags on a Marlboro ( if you smoke) and a sip of coffee, while the Subaru decides if and when it wants to go forward. It doesn't seem to matter weather you sneak up on the gas pedal and fit YOUR driving habits to placate the CVT and play " Mr. nice driver" or slam the gas pedal to the floor, the car sits in the street for anywhere form 3 to 5 seconds. Subaru's disastrous decision to continue with an engineering design that was already a mechanical problem and and basically a very poorly tested is an engineering and customer failure disaster. This company is bleeding so fats, they better just refit the new cars with the old 3 speed . I see NO possible chance for enough improvement. The design should have been scrapped 3 tears ago and the dead horse it's engineers are beating is just not going to get up, and if the company continues to band aid this problem, I see financial ruin for this car manufacturer. The early overhead valve Ford Y- block V/8 engines from 1954 until 1961 are an excellent example of a very large company approving and installing a very bad design. The engine was a heavy thick wall casting ( as were most in those days) but the Y-Block also had a very poor cylinder head design featuring " stacked , horizontal intake ports on both intake manifold and heads. Also very poor top end oiling to reach the rocker arms. The Lineartronic transmission was approved to maximize profits , while touting safety ( year right) and saying, look, better gas mileage, you can't help get better mileage, because you go Subaru , especially a 4 cylinder Boxer engine mated 2 a CVT , don't expect ANY driver feedback or useful power while accelerating. Just do whatever the cars says and you'll be fine. This company has a beautiful engine. Sadly , it was castrated in 2014, when they decided to go with the CVT. Guess who pays ???

[@neometalx9]

You probably have a bad one, it isn't that bad as you say.. Seconds to respond? I never had that on mine and it's older (2016). You should better have it checked before warranty expires on you.

[@norme1850]

Probably been sitting around too long. Most newer cars these days switching to CVT transmissions because they work better with the Adaptive Cruise Control that these newer cars have. That's why they got rid of manual transmissions because those wouldn't be as efficient. Also CVT's work better with the Automatic Emergency Braking systems on newer cars.

[@georgeemanson]

I have had a Subaru forester 1997 (automatic) from new, that has been great for all the years with very little to do other than annual services. However, recently I have had a lot of vibration & shuddering on the wheels when making tight turns (left or right). It is difficult to identify which wheels the noise or shudder comes from and I don't feel much through the steering wheel. I have had all difs replace that has reduced the frequency but not always. We hope it isn't the automatic gear box but has anyone got any ideas what to do next.

[@norme1850]

Sounds like the CV joints on the drive axles are going bad.

[@user-cd3ps2ch5r]

drive curves

[@watercool5]

wheel bearings? (not an expert)

[@sandorlukacs1892]

Hi, all my local dealer put high torque oil into a low torque cvt....and I have a slip in the cvt...anyone any idea?

[@masterplan447]

Sandor Lukacs if it’s a Subaru dealer, question it, they’re crooks! They wrecked mine and lied through out the whole process!!!!!

[@charlesnoble7470]

First, ask the technician if he uses an OBD reader to change the fluid. If he says no; leave the shop and find another. Use only Subaru CVT fluid due to the transmission is highly sensitive, both engineered to precise fluid viscosity (thickness) and denoted color. It's not a simple drain & fill. The temperature of the CVT fluid must be between 96-103F for the final fill and residual fluid flushed out through the system heat-exchanger hose on the left side of the transmission. There is a neighboring gearbox that takes 75W-90 gear oil and you must be familiar with the location of both fill plug and the drain plugs of each of these separate housings. Gear oil destroys CVT's CVT fluid destroys gearboxes.

[@TheGomezIndustries]

How long before the chain fails?????????????

[@charlesnoble7470]

The factory promotes it as a no-maintenance component; a totally illogical assumption because of CVT fluids breakdown from natural evaporation and condensation within the transmission housing for every warmup & cooldown. Subaru owner blogs prove CVT failure before 100,000 miles, if not regular fluid changes at 20,000 miles to 30,000 intervals. It costs $300 each time but it beats paying $3000.00 to $5000.00 for a replacement CVT transmission before 100,000 miles. CVT transmissions shouldn't be driven aggressively when they are cold. Internal CVT fluid needs to be warmed to engine temperatures. Use only Subaru CVT fluid due to the transmission is highly sensitive, both engineered to precise fluid viscosity (thickness) and denoted color. It's not a simple drain fill. The temperature of the fluid must be between96-103F and flushed out through the fluid heat-exchanger hose.

[@paullangford8179]

What is the expected lifetime of this transmission in normal use? 200,000 miles? 20,000 miles?

[@kingmike40]

I put 100,000 miles on my 2015 Legecy. Bought it new drive the heck out of it.

[@burtosis]

Subaru put out a bulletin for extended warranty service on 2010 and 2011 car transmissions due to many issues.

[@jayflowz714]

kingmike40 how many miles? do you change CVT fluid how often? just got a 2019 legacy i hope to get 200k out of it bro

[@moonsapling]

@@jayflowz714 2015 Forester owner. I change the CVT fluid every 45k miles and I put Valvoline's CVT fluid cause dealers in my country dont sell the original fluid. 135k miles and 0 problems.

[@skirmich]

So this means these transmissions are FWD Biased? Long gone Symmetric AWD?

[@john-danielmartin8753]

skirmich 60 in the front and 40 in the back torque split

[@uberdang830]

Yes. And no. There is a clutch and differential on the AWD models. Insert country availability here. The system allows for a better control of power from front to rear. In my opinion having a decouple ability from the rear wheels and an advantage over the viscos coupler and the center diff coupler that is my WRX. My crosstrek is way more predictable on ice than the wrx.

[@SubaruAmbassadorRobert]

No. It means that by removing the tail shaft and interconnect gears, you can have front wheel drive. Subaru doesn't sell front wheel drive Subies in the United States. It's just a possible design use. The WRX is 55/45 power split, front to rear, using the "Current" (TR690) Lineartronic. The Ascent and Outback XT and outgoing Outback 3.6R and Foz XT is 60/40 using the TR690. The 4 cylinder naturally aspirated models are 60/40 using the ("New") TR580 CVT.

[@uberdang830]

@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert I did say insert country availability here. Sorry I didn't give the torque bias distribution in a nominal driveing environment. With overall lock up being 50/50 in extreme cases. How ever there default mode I.E. Limp mode for the CVTs is FWD. To limit the potential heat in the transmission and subsequent fluid. Regardless of fwd or awd. The symmetrical part remains the same being that the drive axles on the left and the right are the same length. This eliminates torque steering a common problem in a transverse mounted drive train be it FWD or Awd configuration. You also lose efficiency in a transverse awd system because you have to change the direction of power 90 degrees to transmit the power to the rear wheels. A tipical set up is with a pinion set.Some just driven off the right side transaxle. Not a true Awd but some manufacturers like to think so. Anyway I have a I have an ej25b I need to get finished for my WRX.

[@SubaruAmbassadorRobert]

@@uberdang830 Limp mode isn't the default mode. That's error mode. ;-) But, yes to all of the rest. Do you have a site or IG where you're showing off your WRX build? I'd love to follow.

[@AEVMU]

Having fake gear changes in a CVT is just stupid.

[@playlistajimenez5567]

So much sensitive design. Need to have a plastic cover just to replace a part. Complicated design

[@TakeDeadAim]

It's a snowmobile transmission...in a car!lol!

[@kingmike40]

This thing is for 2012 models. Are you trying to pay for you house with all of the ads.

[@masterplan447]

Most mechanics have a software which is a subscription, to help with identifying car manufacturers problems, ask them to check Subaru..... No 1 problem: CVT transmition failure....!!!!!!! On top of all the other problems that emerge every day. All you need to do is google “ Subaru recalls” and you’ll be constantly flooded with new issues concerning Subaru reliability..... no other car manufacturers have such a bad record!!!! You have been warned!! And people, DO NOT BE FOOLED By SOME TROLLS HIRED , employed, commissioned by Subaru to argue this claims, all they are doing is DAMAGE CONTROL !!!

[@vs8580]

Drive the car to 29 MPH, then let off the throttle by removing your foot from the gas peddle. the car will start to buck and shudder. The torque converter will finally unlock around 10 MPH and you will feel a surge. Repeat the steps to simulate a traffic situation. If you have an OBD app or scanner capable of reading CVT temperature you will watch the CVT get hotter and more quirky drive-train issues will be felt (Bucking, square wheel feeling, warped rotor feel, like a manual transmission left in gear. Stumble and shuddering when excelling from a stop, eventually the car will surge forward at a stop light . This problem will get worse with age and eventually the CVT will fail). The 2014 XV I owned started this at 12K miles and it was a normal occurrence at 75K when I traded it (Subaru called it normal engine braking) . FYI I took newer Crosstreks and Outbacks on a test drive, these symptoms were present.

[@krupadrum]

Watching this is enough to put me off ever buying a CVT transmission. I'll stick with a WRX STI. Subaru, if you stuck with MANUALS and AUTOS you would sell a lot more vehicles. Feel free to put me on your senior management staff.

[@randallgoeswhere]

Smart man. The cvt is pos. Its basically the Apple of transmissions. Its not meant for anything other than weak smaller cars that just drive around to the grocery store.

[@MrSubaru1387]

@@randallgoeswhere own and seen a lot of them with 200k and 300k plus miles without fail. There’s a ton of reliable Subaru CVTs. You only hear about the failures.

[@mikewallace8087]

@@MrSubaru1387 you banned me on your channel because you can not take criticism . Reinstate me please.

[@tom5858]

Is a German or an Indian speaking English in this video?

[@markmossinghoff8185]

Tom I think it was a computer that was programed by another computer that thought it knew what English was supposed to sound like.

[@tom5858]

Mark Thank you for the info.

[@nelc2399]

The Grey Alien

[@BusterKitten]

I think he's of filipino heritage

[@vectraB97]

I deleted original comment now. Because I was wrong about my personal experience with lineartronic so far.

[@charlesnoble7470]

The programming for the transition of the CVT pulleys is not considering both the drivers applied horsepower demand and the stress-fatigue point of the belt riding around on the two CVT pulleys. You should have got the standard automatic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGiqeqSil5yBnKM

[@vectraB97]

@@charlesnoble7470 it was actually a bad 7to13 pin trailer adapter that caused the issues. My transmission wasn't to blame in this case. Brake override cut the power to the engine. Because the car believed trailer was braking. I didn't know that the original comment wasn't deleted. This summer I've pulled a 1200kg caravan for 20-30hours and it the car worked great. But I will not stretch my luck and pull a heavier caravan with cvt transmission. Max tow capacity is 1500kg but I'm keeping it below 1300kg to be safe. And I'm only going max 80km/h. While climbing I'm often below 70km/h to keep cvt temperature down.

[@MacTechG4]

Comparing the new modern automatic transmission technologies (DCT/DSG Vs. CVT) it appears both are equally complex, both have reputations for unreliability compared to a planetary automatic and clutched manual, the manual is still the simplest, most robust and most reliable. Comparing CVT to DCT/DSG, the DCT is clearly superior, it’s more robust, has a crisper feel, and feels closer to a true manual, as it has physical gears transferring power The CVT only advantage over the DCT is fuel efficiency, everything else is inferior, driving feel, responsiveness, enjoyment. If I had to choose a modern automatic, it’d be a DCT/DSG, it feels the closest to a true manual CVT has potential, it just needs to become more robust and more reliable, the biggest problem is wear from the chain on the variators, that’s the biggest design flaw, metal on metal contact

[@CurvedSlightly]

He said, from way in the past.

[@motorhead6763]

Metal chain side plates scrubbing against metal pulley surface . Inherit to this design side wear same as a v belt . I am curious to the hardness of both wearing surfaces must be Rockwell "?" and special synthetic fluid to last. Fretting and metal transfer is my concern. Better to go with hybrid electric and lose transmissions all together. Fix you head gaskets before venturing into a new questionable design. Nissan and Audi cvt disaster now.

[@loboptlu]

motorhead Hybrids use cvt too unfortunately

[@darylhill9400]

been fixed for years! Quit the regurgitation

[@lintonwrightjr2349]

I purchased a Cargo Net for my 2015 Subaru Outback. Part no: F551SAL001. I was given the website: stis.subaru.com/ to download the installation instructions. However, I was asked to open an account. I do not want an account, but only to download the instructions. /s/ Linton Wright Jr.

[@williecoyote1478]

Just give us a manual transmission option instead of a rubber belt Subaru. All CVT does is add costs to the vehicle, greater servicing costs and more hard to fix. Acceleration and cornering effeciency are both reduced with CVT - The only thing it does is save fuel - But us consumers dont care about that - We want control

[@edwardce8341]

We regret buying Subaru. It’s crap.

[@robhargraves3805]

Bill Jazz why?

[@norme1850]

2019 Subaru CVT's don't need to be serviced until 90,000 miles. So there's no maintenance cost on it until then. Most car manufacturers are switching to CVT transmissions because most newer cars have Adaptive Cruise Control and Automatic Emergency Braking which is more forgiving then a regular automatic transmission and not very practical with a manual transmission.

[@SubaruAmbassadorRobert]

There's no rubber belt, and there's no steel belt. It's a massive chain made by LuK. You may want to watch the video - the Subaru CVT does not suffer from those problems you comment about that other CVTs suffer from.

[@darylhill9400]

Steel

[@eng.algareebsaudi1648]

The worst cvt gearbox ever on subaru forester from 2012 to 2018

[@timfranko8354]

This guys mouth sounds gross. Too many sound effects.

[@masterplan447]

Subaru’s newer CVT transmitions are a complete FAIL FAIL FAIL......... guaranteed to break..... research it👍

[@darylhill9400]

Wrong

[@darylhill9400]

Check Subaru database only relatively few fail most don’t and that’s a fact ! Quit the propaganda!