Imagining a Better Fallout 3

[@realSgtCarbeeno_21]

I actually liked the idea of power plant being powered by enslaved wastelander, giving a morally grey moment in the game. Making the slaver become a powerhouse of the wasteland, if you distrupt the power plant, not only Slaver get mad but also settlement that being powered, causing the said settlement to sent you a mercenaries to track you down along with Slaver

[@ryszakowy]

imagine an option where you kill the slavers and introduce the settlement to a ground breaking technology of power generators [repair 80]

[@mateoreyes6921]

I remember that when you get the mesmetron you can ask if you can only slave bad people, with the dude saying that nobody is innocent in the wasteland, wich is true......but come on, you can´t compare someone that want to survive in a hard enviroment to someone that like to blow up cities, you should have the option to take control of Paradice Falls and use it to run this power plant even have and ending where you would use the slaves to whether it's to expand your control over the territory or to start rebuilding Washington as The Lincoln Memorial, it would be ironic, using only raiders or people that are really evil like cannibals or people like Tempenny

[@dylanwight5764]

That's the perfect opportunity to give Talon Company a reason to pursue the player. Bravo! I love your idea!

[@SmilayBros]

I like how you actually bring up new points and try to improve instead of a college lecture like other videos.

[@Davidsanchez-sm6gl]

*cough* creetosis *cough*

[@MattFitVlog]

Why would you lecture a college It doesn't even have ears

[@DarthWall275]

To be fair, most of those videos are made by 20 something college kids, so what the fuck do you expect?

[@coldbumby]

ikr there's literally like 100 fallout retrospective videos

[@acev3521]

@@coldbumby Wouldn't even mind if they weren't just reskins of the same 4 videos

[@detanator4669]

Im pretty sure the reason why Iguana bits are in the game is because in fallout 2 it was their version of "long pork"

[@calvenknox8552]

On the desertification of the D.C area. It's the result of a pre-war mega project. Throw in details explaining the extreme work environment, government interference with it and robotic labor and you've got great lore. Since, to my understanding, D.C is sitting on top of a whole lot of spongey dirt and silt, along with many deposits of water (similar to Dallas TX), you can make it a point on exactly why Project Purity was such a huge deal in the first place. The whole cities underbelly, and the surrounding area, was excavated for a government job creation program. The city is sitting on concrete, tunnels and pipes all the way down to bedrock, or even further. All the water in the area is irradiated because those pipes are irradiated, the landscape is forever changed from the flash floods that take place when it rains (at least where the storm drains aren't clogged). And a large reason for D.C's out of proportion feral population is because of those tunnels being a public fallout shelter. Pre war D.C was a fortress. One that had very few nukes get through its defenses, but lots and lots of fallout. And a lot of death from its government falling apart. As for the brotherhood and enclave, I honestly like them. You need more wastelander factions, similar to NV's system of smaller factions, but changing the lore for the east coast brotherhood to be a Chicago offshoot would fit much better. The Outcasts being the noble ones, possibly accidentally creating a power armored raider group in naivety, is exactly what the game would need. And the Enclave needs their internal civil war, and lore explaining that they are effectively an offshoot as well. They don't even need to be a large faction, they could be one of the smaller ones that just give out weapons, hire Talon company as mercs to do their work and elude to a large presence somewhere else.

[@ryszakowy]

extreme work environment when america literally cuts out forests and builds skyscrapers from glass and steel with giant parking lots only to complain about global warming i'm not shitting on your idea i'm just pointing out that in case of anything serious most cities would turn into deserts on their own and our stupidity as species allowed that

[@FatrickAteman]

An interesting faction concept would be a group that's Enclave-affiliated but not the Enclave themselves, having them be the descendants of the high-ranking Military and Government Officials who were at DC instead of the Oil Rig during the Great War. This would also allow them to be a viable option for your player to join, as while they're still flawed they never developed the same genocidal ideology as the Fallout 2 Enclave.

[@Zen-sx5io]

Fallout 3 was my entry into the franchise back in 2015, and then NV immediately after that so my perception of of this game changed somewhat in that time, but there were still aspects of It I appreciated more then later additions.

[@Cadette4448]

It's actually refreshing to watch a reasonable video about Fallout that tries to iterate and improve upon what we have instead of running in circles about the same moot points. I have some suggestions as well, but I practically agree with everything you proposed. 1. Vault 101 should have long lasting consequences for how you deal with the tutorial, Vault 18 from Fallout: New California comes to mind, and how that entire section is an optional while expansive area reciprocantes your choices and decisions. 2. The Karma System should be more impactful, not just dictating random dialogue and whether or not you can recruit companions, it should really be a gateway into other segments of the game as a whole. If we take your idea about having several unique factions fighting over project purity then we could expand on that and add karma to the mix. Maybe one faction does evil things for the greater good, then the system could be more complex and involve grey morality and neutral karma wouldn't be completeçy useless. 3. Random encounters as a whole should be reworked, they can lead to unexpected and entertaining situations, but most of the time are lackluster attempts at worldbuilding and at worst get in the way of gameplay for no reason. if the system was more responsive with what you did and reacted accordingly, with encounters relating to your choices being more prevalent, then I can see it being very useful tool to make the world feel alive. 4. About the climate topic, I also don't see any reason why sandstorms aren't a thing in FO3, considering they're one of the reasons why the Megaton crater was the basis for a town, to shield people from them. On your point about setting I do have an objection, there is this unused QA map cell in the game that fits the swampy D.C. feel and look very well IMO, I'm sure they couldn''t have just done this for the entire world space, and it was unused afterall so there is a reason for it to be axed, but I still feel like it's a valid basis that we can take from and improve on with world (kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ2YdJylqa-Mpa-Yesign) 5. Milelurks and Yao Guai are probably the best original creatures that Fallout 3 has come up with, and with a little more creativity and ingenuity we could make more unique creatures that fit the setting better while still being Fallout-y, I don't know much about East Coast Fauna but if FO4 is anything to go off of, BGS can make different animals that fit the game like well Radstaggs, Gatorclaws (while still just being deathclaw reskins I feel there's potential there) and others.

[@malfuller3367]

I really like your trees at the edge of the map idea.

[@lorddervish212quinterosara6]

Some ideas so FO3 could be improved without remaking the whole game 1-Would be cool if there was an underground power network owned by a settlement beneath Capital ruins, which also works as a trade hub between Rivet City and the settlements to the west, they sell their energy in exchange of food, water, medicine etc. Meaby have it be in conflict against the Pitt raiders who probably also own an energy production plant. 2-Vending machines could be owned by local businessmen and sell poor imitations of pre-war products. You could even add a quest that sends you to one of the food/drink factories to find recipes which you could sell or even make copies (somehow) and sell them too 3-You are wrong about your point with Vault-Tec and the F.E.V. The company was always closely connected with the old gov and the Enclave, the whole point of the vaults was to experiment on people possible scenarios they could find themselves in if they tried to colonize space. However I do agree that the Supermutant thing could have been handled better, meaby not make them all so stupid and evil? it doesn't have to be like in the West Coast, perhaps they slave people or even trade them to the slavers, meaby they scavenge material in the more irradiated areas of the wasteland for slaves to dip in the vats, give them an actual culture, have them work as mercenaries, enforcers, pricy scavengers or guards etc. 4-Talon company could be neutral at the start of the game but they turn hostile towards you if you piss them off by somehow getting in their way or making enemies of the Enclaves (after Raven Rock) at that point they send death squats to kill you, but if you kill their leader or become to big friends with the Brotherhood (at the start of Broken Steel) they leave you alone out of fear. To give them more depths, you could make them related to "Ronto", they are splintter faction of the Ronto army who fled from the north and went to the Capital in search of loot and pre-war treasure, they now survive acting as a front for the Enclave, working as hitmen, bounty hunters, caravan guards, scavengers, mercs and hired police. 5-Little Lamplight should be more grim and more like Lord of the Flies type of society, people don't leave until they are a bit more older than 18 (meaby 25?), have the settlement be more barbaric than just a bunch of silly kids running around and playing 6-There are many ways in which Charisma could be improved, here are some ways modders from FNV found the way to drastically improve it and make it a much worthwhile stat: a) "Better Charisma": Adding a flat modifier to all skills while in a dialogue that is based on the player's Charisma; So, for example, with 7 Charisma and 35 Medicine, you'll be able to pass all Medicine checks up to 45. This provides a nice alternative to high Intelligence builds. So basically you're bullshitting your way through conversations 1 Charisma: -20 2 Charisma: -15 3 Charisma: -10 4 Charisma: -5 5 Charisma: 0 6 Charisma: +5 7 Charisma: +10 8 Charisma: +15 9 Charisma: +20 10 Charisma: +25 b)"Actually Useful Charisma": Black Widow, Cherchez La Femme, Confirmed Bachelor and Lady Killer now require 6 or more charisma. Your stinky, stuttering courier no longer gets that sweet 10% damage boost. Various speech checks now require CHA instead of speech. Anything that requires making a persuasive argument still uses speech. Anything that relies on the delivery of the line (such as asking characters to trust you, lying, flirting with someone etc) now uses charisma. c)"Hardcore Charisma": Charisma will determine the kind of Reputation you can achieve with the factions. High Charisma will make it easier to become liked and harder to be hated, whereas low Charisma will make it harder to become liked and easier to be hated. To put it another way, low Charisma will make it so that you have to work harder in order to raise your reputation and you won't be able to get away with as much, whereas high Charisma will make it so that you can get away with a lot more and don't have to work nearly as hard to raise your reputation. This of course would need a reputation system d)"Charisma alters Companion limit": Doesn't need explanation Charisma:1-3 == 1 Companion Charisma:4-5 == 2 Companions Charisma:6-7 == 3 Companions Charisma:8-9 == 4 Companions Charisma:10 == 5 Companions 7-The roleplaying aspect would be improved if there was a reputation system instead of the karmic one, maxing reputation with one faction would earn you unique rewards like player homes, weapon and armors etc but earn you the ire of others. Max reputation with the slavers will make you hated by the abolitionists. 8-Gambling would be awesome and make Luck more valuable, cards, dices, slot machines etc. 9-NV survival mechanics, sleep, food and hidratation, make Endurance more valuable and if possible add the Survival/Outdoorsman skill. Food recipes, poisons and drinks too. 10-Traits, like....bruh 11-More random encounters, in NV there are mods that reintroduce the random encounters when you fast travel, go around the world or even try to sleep, the amount and type of encounters could vary depending on your luck, reputation and survival 12-Restrict fast travel behind caravans, so you have to pay. You can also work as a guard but you have to walk all the way along the routes and defend the cargo from raiders and critters, like you had to in FO 1 and 2 13-Use explosives to open safes and doors, but there is a chance that whatever lies inside could be broken 14-Someone below, calvenknox8552, suggested an idea for why DC remained a dry wasteland, this lore could be easily implemented in terminals, notes and scientists around the wasteland Thanks for not making an autistically 8 or 10 hours long video bitching about the game and making sincere and logical suggestion of how it could be improved instead of rewriting the whole thing from zero and throwing so much shit at Bethesda or sucking from Obsidian's cock

[@PancuroniumB]

Some great ideas, my thoughts: 3 - I still think it's better to come up with a new mutagen instead of shoehorning in super mutants, even if Vault 87 having FEV is plausible due to tangential connections between Vault-Tec and the pre-war government. 6d - Any more than 3 companions would likely cause pathfinding and balance issues. Maybe it could be CHA 1-4: 1 companion, CHA 5-7: 2 companions, CHA 8-10: 3 companions. 7 - I don't think there are enough non-permanently hostile factions in Fallout 3 to justify a FNV style reputation system, or even Fallout 2's per-town reputation. Fallout 3's Karma system, although flawed, already has more of an impact than reputation/Karma ever did in Fallout 1/2. 8 - Gambling was planned to be in Fallout 3, but got cut for unknown reasons (likely time constraints). 11 - Fallout 3 does have a lot of random encounters, some of them only appearing if you've completed certain quests or your Karma is too high or low. Aside from increasing the quantity further, there's not much room for improvement here.

[@allivegottado]

Lots of great ideas here. I like the way you think.

[@SuperDeeredriver]

#1 LESS GREEN #2 IRON SIGHTS

[@ryszakowy]

#3 no bethesda writing for the love of god children cannot stay the same age for 200 years

[@centitat6367]

Less green ?? Buddy this is fallout 3. Green is what it's all about 😏

[@SmrdoMudichOfficial]

#4 FIRE EMIL AND HIRE THE GUY WHO WROTE THE SURVIVALIST STORY IN FNV 🔥🔥🔥

[@ChristianChannel26789]

8:20 apparently iguana on a stick is actually supposed to be human flesh.

[@thesneakymemedealer5071]

honestly i think one simple change i'd make is to have fallout 3 take place a few decades after the bombs drop instead of a few centuries as it would fix alot of the worldbuilding issues. along with that i'd cut some of the empty ruins to put more resources into more memorable set pieces and quests

[@MrAntiexistancerifle34157]

Great video. Brought up some good, reasonable points and ideas like the one about the fev and super mutants at 14:08.

[@YoKhai1221]

One of the main reasons behind the fact that there are no spiders in FO, Is the fact that radiation does not seem to be kind to them. (This goes for primarily web spinning spiders) As it messes up silk production skills

[@Zodroo_Tint]

This is a science-fiction fantasy. Radiation only effect spiders negativelly if you want it. They could be bigger and meaner if you want to. Real life science is not an excuse for a game like bethesda fallout. They ditched the spiders and kept the scorpions so they can trick the old fans to buy the game and talk about it for the possible new fans. This is the real life science behind rad scorpions. They did the same with caps and super mutant and deathclaws and the Brotherhood of Steel. It was not a creative decision. It was a decision of a suit with a survey in his hand.

[@ryszakowy]

radiation doesn't produce deathclaws out of geckos either

[@YoKhai1221]

@@ryszakowy well duh, They’re Biologically engineered weapons.

[@FKyoutubeSERIOUSLY]

​@@ryszakowySomeone isn't a lore nerd. It's alright.

[@Palendrome]

@@Zodroo_Tint You could say radiation makes giant fairy dragons too, but sometimes rules are good. Spiders don't fit radiation.

[@coldbumby]

bro. you've become one of my favorite KZbin channels of the past few months. I don't even have any Fallout 4 mods, but I love your commentary and you've got good jokes. Keep it up man and thank you for keeping us entertained and bringing good content

[@Darthjojo47]

The bos being there is already explained with the bos sending multiple chapters across the us overtime so that they can not only become bigger but spread their influence its really not that big of a stretch at all, they did after all come from Appalachia not the west coast plus the enclave were not just the west they were already in multiple parts of the us, why would a powerful organization that was around pre war ONLY set themselves up in the west coast

[@KalEl7802]

TTW comes with a weather mod that allows it to rain in the Capital Wasteland

[@Joshnpk]

I really like your videos, they are always very well thought out and original.

[@unclerukmer]

I thought about this once and here’s what I came up with: DC was hit especially hard during the Great War and with special weapons with a very long radioactive half life. No life save ghouls and certain mutated creatures could survive. Only in the last 20 years has the radiation reduced enough that people could start living in the area again. This would explain why it’s a wasteland after 200 years. In my reimagining the plot would revolve around factions trying to gain access to DC’s immense store of weapons and knowledge that have sat unclaimed because of the lethal radiation. The player character would have to decide which faction to back and that choice would impact the rest of the game. The factions: The Brotherhood of Steel. The Brotherhood always suspected technology lay beneath DC and so early on deployed a forward monitoring force to keep an eye on the region and report back. When news of the finished radiation levels reached leadership, the BOS, now exiled from the NCR, sent out an expeditiously force to claim the technology to keep it out of the hands of others and to give them the edge they need to either reclaim California or establish themselves as the dominant power in the East. The Enclave. The bits of the Enclave that survived fallout 2 followed the BOS to DC and set up camp at an abandoned military base. They are trying to build up their strength to claim the technology before the BOS can. Super Mutants. Following the defeat of The Master the super mutants scattered. One faction went east. Their leader (a new character) suspects that the original plans for the FEV and the tools that created it are in DC. With those tools he hopes to re-engineer the FEV to cure super mutant sterility and allow them to build their own society away from humans. Others in the faction disagree and you can optionally side with them to pursue and alternate path. A ghoul faction made up of long time residents of DC who have been able to survive and want the technology for themselves to either expel the newcomers or otherwise allow their society to survive. Other factions are possible like a new southern confederacy that wants to secure its position. Or maybe a year zero faction that believes all the tech and knowledge in DC should be destroyed. Not fleshed out, but I think this would have made a more compelling Fallout 3 than what we got.

[@juvenilia_in_hell]

i love the fallout 3 aesthetic so much

[@AgusSkywalker]

4 points: - There should be no creatures produce by FEV (mutants, centaurs, floaters, etc). Those were created by the Master's experimentation, and it doesn't make sense that they develope on their own at the other side of the country. - The BoS could be replaced by another faction that came out from the military. That would explain why they have heavy weapons and power armor, but they can have the ideology Bethesda wants. - The presence of the Enclave could have made sense if the game took place closer to the war (25 to 50 years). It would make sense that the bulk of the Enclave lived at the capital, and maybe the oil ring was a secondary base. At the end of the game you end up kicking them from DC, so they move their main operation to the west coast. - I like the idea of Liberty Prime, but not its implementation. I think it's hilarious that in the middle of a resource crisis, the US government spends tons of resources, time and money in making a super-weapon (that's far less efficient that the nukes they already had). That's exactly the kind of stupid decision the government would make. However I don't like that in the end Liberty Prime works. There should have been a quest where the brotherhood (or the faction that replaces them) hopes to use it against the Enclave and so they order you to help the main scientist to finish the project. You go collect some materials and stuff and maybe find some notes from the original scientists saying things like "this robot is never going to work but the army keeps insisting that we finish it". And even if you show this evidence the project continues. In the end, after you finish the stupid robot, it takes one step, falls down and explodes. In the end it was a stupid waste of time, money and resources which could have been used to help people if the government wanted to. That's exactly the kind of message that Fallout wants to give.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Not bethesda Fallout. The best bethesda Fallout representation is when the smartest people on the earth were locked inside Vault 76 and when they came out they started hitting each other with their fist just to see what happens. BTW I like those missions what waste your time in a way you could expect it it is a waste of time if you pay only a little attention.

[@ryszakowy]

- there should be creatured created by FEV because FEV got released into atmosphere when west tek got hit - real lore not bethesda bullshit - you are right - yeah enclave should either have different goals or be replaced because it makes no sense for their portrayal in F3 - like that, they should be able to make the robot walk few meters so it shows the power of it's laser and then explodes so brotherhood's idea changes from "let's walk the robot there" to "let's mount this robot's laser on something better"

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@ryszakowythere portrayal in Fo3 is nearly identical to their depiction in Fo2 except they want to poison the water instead of the air.

[@AgusSkywalker]

@@ryszakowy but West-Tek had no FEV by 2077, they had moved all their research to Mariposa, which never exploded. So there is no FEV in the air.

[@unoriginalperson72]

"big robot cool!!!"

[@Aurum100]

17:06 Games sell well when the devs have deep enough pockets to pay the right influencers. But many of your suggestions are solid.

[@maximthemagnificent]

Given how few people played Fallout 1 & 2, I can forgive Bethesda reusing elements in Fallout 3 (though cramming them into every game since has been too much). I agree it would've been nice to at least try to have a more reasonable justification of the presence of the BOS and Enclave, but it needn't have been pure coincidence they are both there: one faction's efforts in The Capital Wasteland could've drawn the attention of the other to the area, so only one justification would be required. I also actually really like the Lyons brotherhood goal shift because it had consequences, with The Outcasts splitting off, though I wish they'd done a lot more with them.

[@andriy_tato]

Red Scare was a legitimate concern so Bethesda was unintentionally based. I also wonder how people who deny the Red Scare legitimacy also tend to believe Russia Gate wholeheartedly. Either both are true or none of them.

[@fshoaps]

2:49 - There's a great F03 mod that adds different heights. I always use it for roleplay games.

[@xXDeiviDXx]

I can name a ton of mods that solves almost every issue you brought up in this video (but only for TTW).

[@Aurum100]

Please do

[@xXDeiviDXx]

@@Aurum100 1:10 - Enhanced Item Info + some iStewie Tweaks settings. 1:44 - For Iron Sights, play TTW. For recoil use Immersive Recoil + Viewmodel Recoil 2:46 - There's a handful of usually NVSE scripted mods that randomizes NPC height but they tend to bug out for me so I never use them. 3:25 - Collision Meshes, yes that's the name on Nexus. 3:55 - True Weathers TTW + TTW DC Flora Overhaul. 5:28 - Wasteland Economy. 7:13 - TTW Configurable Loot Rarity and Food Healing. 8:08 - Monster Mod Lite 2021 TTW-NV. Sorry I can't fix the plot elements.

[@thejonathan130]

There's a few things I really disagree on. The prime antagonist is the Enclave, that is the continuation of the American shadow government/intelligence apparatus. I agree with the amount of Chinese weapons being too high, but the baddies need a justification for existing. Having chinese spies still operating in DC is perfect, though this should have been expanded upon instead of ignored by Bethesda. Also, DC being the US capital, it makes sense for the Enclave to be there, even prior to the events of Fallout 2. If anything they should be the major faction in DC patrolling trade routes and actually doing things for the people of DC. Funny enough, there is no difference between Col. Autumn and the East Coast Brotherhood. They're opposed to each other because they want control of the same thing. The East Coast Brotherhood is fine. I like to think of them as a splinter group from the Brotherhood in Fallout tactics even if this isn't stated in game. Having the Outcasts as ideological purists is makes sense, as you should have conservatives break away from a group that no longer resembles its former self. I hope I didn't come off as nitpicky, I did enjoy this video

[@nakazoo4225]

8:17 they explained this one in older fallouts, "iguana bits" is a nicer way to say human flesh

[@TheMasterGamer64]

Underrated video. Ty.

[@murkywaters5502]

Nice video, dude!

[@Yassence]

This video has some great points and is very reasonable.

[@tonystrange4304]

Are you going to this for new Vegas as well

[@PancuroniumB]

Yeah, probably.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@PancuroniumBwhy? That game is beyond godly and perfect. The culmination of mans creation.

[@nickelakon5369]

​@jakespacepiratee3740 it could be better, it has its own problems. Not as much as fallout 3 but there's improvements it could have.

[@Joshnpk]

Would love to see the same style video but for Fallout 4.

[@ryszakowy]

that would be an actual 10 hour video starting with "let's throw entire thing into the trash and keep only synths vs people bit"

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@ryszakowywhat, like the better gunplay, the crafting, settlement and base building? Scrap EVERYTHING but synths? Come now.

[@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg]

​@@ryszakowythat implies that the game is completely unsalvageable. Which it isn't. There are plenty of concepts and general stuff that are really good outside of just the synths vs. people idea.

[@FluttersShy-ln2ln]

2:03 - Not only that, but Vanilla New Vegas actually has this already!!! Just pull it from there!!!

[@SmrdoMudichOfficial]

You do realize that new vegas came out AFTER fallout 3, correct?

[@unoriginalperson72]

​@@SmrdoMudichOfficial yeah well the time is now so you can do it or whatnot

[@dskdev]

good video

[@kortgaminggg]

nice video mate, I agree with most of the points that you brought up.

[@potato_723]

Can you make one for fo4 and nv? I'm sure you're up to the task

[@smallcat848]

while i do like the v ideo i think the US government giving FEV to vault tec kinda makes sense. Vault tec by the time of the great war pretty much is an integral part of the shadow government that formed the Enclave post war, only not as prevalent because their post nuclear control centre didn't end up making it through the great war intact.

[@AmalekIsComing]

one thing I'd do is set the game a few decades earlier (maybe 100 years earlier) to better explain the utter lack of development (although factions like the brotherhood and maybe the enclave would have to be switched out for endemic variants)

[@georgekostaras]

This is good

[@michaelgriego6882]

A Fallout 3/ New Vegas...2 disc remaster combo would make mad money...ide spend the 70$ for it

[@lobiankk77]

All these changes could be realistically applied in a remaster/remake of the game. Just improve the game overall and retcon the bad lore and you can have an incredible 3D iteration of Fallout, while maintaing the original vibe and feel that made the game so successful in the first place.

[@222over]

" we should be happy with what we got" *makes a 20 minute video about what fallout 3 needs to be better

[@Zodroo_Tint]

"Fallout 3 could have turned out a lot worst if an other company won the right to the series." Yes, this is true. And Jeffrey Dahmer could have been a lot worst if he would be as smart as Hannibal Lechter. But he is still Jeffrey Dahmer.

[@ryszakowy]

@@Zodroo_Tint personally i'd prefer no fallout as to what bethesda did with the franchise

[@222over]

@@Zodroo_Tint Yea what an odd statement. I would have loved to see fallout in the hands of a different company.

[@Aurum100]

@@ryszakowy Agreed

[@johnclay2716]

@@ryszakowy What a ridiculous and pretentious comment " NO, I DON'T WNAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO ENJOY SOMETHING. I WISH IT STAYED AN OBSCURE 90S RPG THAT ONLY ME AND THE OTHER COOL KIDS COULD CIRCLE JERK OVER! "

[@andriy_tato]

Bethesda just puts every asset that they bought from Black Isle in without much thought. One one hand that's good because original creators did a good job but on another hand Bethesda is stuck with that legacy and can't imagine much past that.

[@landothecomando]

Now, someone pls make a mod list for this. 💀

[@ryszakowy]

no, someone make a game out of this because gamebryo mauled by bethesda can't even handle fallout 3 properly

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@ryszakowywat

[@gamingguru2k6]

Most of the differences between FO3 and NV are in the writing and world design. Yet, I hear people complain that the shooting sucks, and jumping is weird in FO3, and New Vegas is the best Fallout game. It's popular to hate FO3 for seemingly no reason. FO 1/2 have a clunky UI, and so most people won't even touch them. FO3 is just popular enough for people to hate them.

[@ryszakowy]

there is weird jumping in fallout 3 wich somewhat was fixed in vegas and shooting does suck nothing screams "immersion" like that weird moment when you are perfectly aimed at npc's head while looking from behind a corner and bullet hits invisible part of the wall or the fact that by deafult there is no way to aim the weapon

[@gamingguru2k6]

@@ryszakowy Holding right click, L2, or Left Trigger reduces the spread and zooms all weapons in both games. The animations in FO3 imply steadying the weapon, the 10mm pistol is held with both hands for example. Fallout New Vegas uses the aesthetic of Iron sights and is functionally the same. Both games have wonky collision meshes in certain areas. I've been playing both FO3 and New Vegas, both unmodded, for back to back comparisons lately. They are almost identical mechanically in every way. DT and Perks are the big differences between the two games. It makes me wonder if you've even played either of them.

[@nickelakon5369]

1) most people accept that fallout new vegas' gunplay is kind of trash, barely serviceable at worst. 2) Vegas made a lot of changes to combat that are subtle but make the gunplay feel infinitely better than 3 by comparison. It isn't just the addition of iron sights, additional ammo types and weapon variety make vegas' combat far more interesting than fallout 3, being able to take a shot gun and basically turn it into a powerarmor/robot destroying sniper with pulse slugs, or a delete button with dragons breath rounds was a great addition. Making the weapon spread way less ridiculous as well. In fallout 3 bullets will literally fly out of the gun sideways and that looks stupid, breaks immersion, and feels terrible, whereas bullet spread in New vegas is kept to a far more realistic degree without removing it entirely and making the player a crack shot from the moment they get let out of Doc Mitchell's house. As far as jumping, I never noticed any problems with it beyond the typical Bethesda affair, especially when trying to take running jumps and realizing my character was slightly coming off the ground so I couldn't jump and falling to my death instead of jumping being pretty common.

[@gamingguru2k6]

@@nickelakon5369 I was just using an LAER in NV and watching some of the shots come out practically sideways. There isn't generally a reason to do any platforming in FO3 or NV. I don't notice any real difference in the jumping either. You guys try to straight up gas light people about this stuff all the time.

[@nickelakon5369]

@@gamingguru2k6 what do you mean there's no reason to do platforming in either of the games? Getting around megaton in a way that doesn't make any trip between buildings take like ten minutes requires it and plenty of places in New vegas require it, especially in the DLCs. The vault dead money has a lot of it.

[@aceisking]

Bethesda could have had farms in FO3 frfr

[@Timmy51m]

Fair comments. They were fans who picked up another devs franchise and put their own twist on it, so yeah it does things different to the older fallout games, what yourself and every other critic would do is change things as well, so make mods or use mods. If you want rain you can have it, if you want dps and all the other FNV add ons use TTW and you can have it, you want different height npc's and creatures use Marts mutant mod and you can have it. Most of these issues have been addressed in one form or another, but to be honest I kinda like it as is because a lot of the time they introduce another set of issues. Each to their own.

[@ryszakowy]

not the point of the video...

[@Timmy51m]

@@ryszakowy You said if you were in the position of game director you would do a load of shit different, "fix and improve" were your words, then went on to list things you didn't agree with plus a load of features you'd like that are mostly available with mods or TTW. What am I missing? What's the point?

[@jaek__]

​@@Timmy51mthese ideas shouldve been in the game from the outset though, and subsequently the ideas that should've been already implemented tie into the game better than literal head cannons, yes mods fix things, but it'd be great if these ideas were just simply implemented upon launch

[@Timmy51m]

@@jaek__ What people think about FO3 15 years after it came out, is less important than the fact it came out and was a great game at the time, and still isn't bad now. We can consider ourselves fortunate that they were good enough to give us the tools to add and change some of the things we didn't like, or that some people acted and made mods for us. It wouldn't have mattered if it had some of the things people say would have made it better, not everybody would have been happy with that, and many of those people are never happy with anything at all, you just can't please all of the people all of the time.

[@jaek__]

@@Timmy51m 15 years ago I couldn't tell you if many true Fallout fans thought 3 was a great game at the time, I was barely sentient, what I can tell you is that not long following it's realize people did start to release that it's gameplay loop is medicore and the games main story sucks. Mods cannot fix this, apart from the gameplay loop I suppose, but then I'd rather play a different game. Why should I be greatful or apathetic towards perceived flaws that could've and should've been improved in hindsight so the next piece of media following the one I liked is better? I don't think those people, and me are never pleased with anything, infact, it's the opposite, ignoring the winded 42 hour video introspectives people were criticizing Fallout 3 soon after playing FNV which was the true 3D Fallout experience in many ways. That's only 2 years after Fallout 3's release, is what I observe now less relevant due to the passage of time even though new Fallout media WILL continued to be released and should be held to a certain standard? I don't get this argument. I don't think it was ever a 'great' game, if your game genuinely becomes dated by a sequel that's equally as dated engine, graphically and development wise then your game wasn't great, it was medicore and people just liked it and had no true alternatives. Fallout 4 is arguably a more dated RPG despite looking better than FNV. Genuinely I can't say with a straight face that people would've been less happy with better RPG mechanics, better world building, & better story all built onto the parts of the game that already were good. Because people were happy with FNV.

[@Darthjojo47]

Vault tec having fev is not that big of a stretch, the us government in fallout is heavily influenced by huge corporations and that especially includes vault tec

[@Climacticc_Chaos]

About iron sights... If you're going to be objective and "look at the game at the time it was made" it was in development in 2006-2007 CoD4:MW didn't come out till 07. No iron sights wasn't a mishap it was a design choice. Although CoD and Brothers in Arms had done ADS for a few years... it definitely wasn't popularized at all yet. The bigger WWII shooter that was better known was Medal of Honor and it had the exact same zoom mechanic. Halo, Bioshock, Farcry, Timeshift, Killzone, team fortess, gears of War, Area 51, Metriod prime... NONE of these games had ADS (aiming down sight) and in fact most of them had a slight zoom aim mechanic instead. CoD just standardizrd ADS and sprinting to the point that if your game doesn't have it? It's a pos. And that's kinda a critical error if you're gonna base your changes on time during development. It was meant to be an RPG with guns not a strict action shooter. The idea of being aware of your surroundings in a large open environment was the idea, not that it was: "too difficult for them to implement." Modders making this change that early was more about changing it to a cool more fps like perspective back then, not necessarily modernizing it to a current standard.

[@PancuroniumB]

Fallout 3 released in October 2008, nearly a year after Call of Duty: Modern Warfare. There was plenty of time to take influence from it. Even before the original Call of Duty there were a few games with iron sights, such as Vietcong, America's Army, WWII Online, and Operation Flashpoint.

[@4zy1]

Real recoil is annoying, I'm glad it wasn't a thing in FO3 and NV.

[@ryszakowy]

i like this video not a 10 hour long retrospect that exposes incompetence of bethesda just "what could be done to make fallout 3 a fallout game" and actually rolling with it and not "in defense of" bullshit video i hate it when those "in defence of" or "is better than you think" types of videos say something among lines of "let's assume for a second" and then they roll with complete non existent bullshit that never even was a concept and end their fairy tale with "see it's not that bad" yeah let's assume that those three mole rats outside of megaton are town's food source and let's assume that megaton uses it's water pumping station to trade clean water with wasteland see megaton isn't that bad except it is and everything he said doesn't exist. your video is different, it brings fresh air to the stale room of "fallout 3 is complete and utter trash but headshoting feral ghouls in vats is funny enough to reinstall the game"

[@sad10promo]

3:07 clearly here it shows the animations dont line up with the chair size.... 8:20 its human meat, literally , that's the joke

[@Zodroo_Tint]

He knows iguana bits are human meat it is clear if you pay attention, but it is not the joke of Fallout 3 it is the joke of the original fallout. Iguana bits were made by Doc Morbid in Junktown, do you really think Junktown is exporting iguana bits to the east coast? This is why he said in the video it should not exist at all because there is a "strange meat" item there already and that is human meat. Hope you understand now. BTW you don't have to say "literally" all the time.

[@ryszakowy]

literally there's literal human "strange meat" literally being held in shack in andale by literal cannibals making "iguana bits" is not even a wink at the audience at this point it's completely stupid

[@sad10promo]

@@Zodroo_Tint Theres literally a comic book called Tales of a Junktown Vendor Jerky Vendor... You could literally just use your context clues in other games.... If you're literally that smart...

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Despite its flaws, Fallout 3 has the best atmosphere imo

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Meh. Atmosphere doesn't mean graphics, the ambient sound has to be there too and the world has to look alive. They failed in the last two.

[@ryszakowy]

where empty liveless ruin of skyscrapers?

[@blxckjxck47]

I agree man. These guys just hating like new Vegas was any better in those departments. The soundtrack and that green look is great. Besides as opposed to new Vegas atleast it's not an empty desert with hardly any buildings at all.

[@johnclay2716]

@@Zodroo_Tint FO3 has great ambient noise and the world feels much more alive than FONV

[@dealwolfstriked272]

Your overthinking here dude! Todd and his sidekick Emil under think as its easy and follows KISS. Another one is the people having stereotype accents. Moriarity being an Irish bar owner as example.

[@tomaszpawlik5091]

nice points all around but hard disagree on evil choices. Yes, its fun to be evil, yes sending a kid to slavers and mocking him for it is fun, yes mesmetron is fun. New vegas lacks such jackass choices

[@peanutbutterrobot]

Every one of your questions can be answered with 'Bethesda'

[@Zodroo_Tint]

You are so right.

[@ryszakowy]

it's funny because it's true

[@dossiebigham9113]

THANK YOU SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT! gods above... i mean DC will always have a special place in my heart being my entrance into FALLOUT and for once its nice seeing someone not just go "ugh Bethesda = bad" like is fallout 3 the best fallout game no, is it better than new vegas fuck no but its good enough so its good enough for me. Plus if it wasn't for fallout 3 we wouldn't have gotten new vegas. Plus a little sick of people meat riding obsidian like they can do no wrong when they made outter worlds and it was at best mid... I love new vegas much as the next person but to qoute badmotherfucka about the endless circle jerk about the games greatness... Mothafuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucka.... *but very exacerbated* Anyways i agree with nature on the edges of the map the power plants etc. Far as factions go much as i like the FO3 BOS i agree and i agree about the enclave. So heres my ideas for what I'd do. Focus more on the bethesda original factions Like the tree minders basically cool isolated wasteland druids could have done stuff that branched off how you handled the Herald quest to maybe help them accelerate nature returning to the capital in in the ending because clean water and the Herold quest and other outcomes. Or hell Reilly's Rangers, Talon Company, the temple of the union the paradise falls slavers etc. I mean speaking of quests branching off eachother the Reilly ranger rescue mission ties into stealing independence cause in the hotel you save them from in one of the rooms you ca find the corpse of Sydneys dad and the final message he left her if you want her SMG without killing her or having her die for example. Bethesda makes all these cool sounding faction concepts like treeminders the temple of the union the railroad the commonwealth minutemen the institute the free states militia the responders etc etc etc... But either don't develope them enough or basically not at all but will get on their knees like a 2 dollar whore in heat for the BOS or Enclave because fan service and energy guns and power armor...shoving them onto everything and being like the only fun fully developed faction because they are.

[@dossiebigham9113]

Hell I just forgot the regulators exist because outside of Lucas Simms and his weird cowboy obsession. They'd have fit in better in New Vegas. Plus we don't need them to counter balance the Talon Company for being the evil mercs because that's basically Reilly's rangers in a nutshell

[@InOzWeTrust]

Iguana bits are mentioned to be human meat in isometric Fallout.

[@AgusSkywalker]

He wrote that on the video, but on a short note. He knows about Iguana Bob, that sold Iguana on a Stick (true iguana) and Iguana Bits (human flesh). Even so, FO3 already has "mysterious meat" to represent human flesh, and if there is a merchant selling human flesh in DC, why would it call it "Iguana Bits" exactly like Iguana Bob, who lived 120 years before at the othe side of the country? It's worse because iguanas don't live in the East Coast, so iguana bits shouldn't exist in this game.

[@ryszakowy]

@@AgusSkywalker THIS

[@johnclay2716]

Also 1: The Brotherhood travelling is already established in Tactics 2: Why wouldn't the Enclave(government) have a presence in THE FORMER CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY 3: Why wouldn't both groups want access to the pentagon and government archives? Once again, you're being way too overly critical

[@MapleovBacon]

1:12 Just shoot it, if it feels nice, use it.

[@scottpreik8755]

A better fallout 3.... play fallout new vegas the last good fallout

[@johnclay2716]

1: No iron sites are just an intentional design choice, take BFBC for example 2: I don't like the idea of the protected NPCs, I always enjoyed the randomness and real life feel of FO3s world 3: The " WHAT DO THEY EAT? " thing is the nerdiest nonsense imaginable, it literally is just a waste of NPCs, disc space and game area. I don't need my video games settlements HYPER REALISTIC AND LOGICAL 4: I always liked the Chinese presence, played well into the Cold War theme of the game. Once again, it may not be REALISTIC AND LOGICAL but its fun and fits the setting I don't know, I just feel like you're way too focused on wanting Fallout 3 to be serious and more focused on realism when it's clear that's not the vibe the game was going for. Things can be fun and have exaggerated characters

[@RainCloudVideos]

“Why add cool details when people like me won’t care?” Because people who do care will notice it and enjoy the game more. And are you really calling him nerdy for wanting explanations for food supplies when fallout is one of the nerdiest game series with hundreds of hours spent writing the worldbuilding and hour long essays on KZbin about factions that get millions of views. That’s perfectly logical lmao. If Bethesda didn’t care why did they even attempt to explain the power supply in fallout 3. All your arguments boil down to: I don’t care about these problems so they aren’t problems.

[@machscga6238]

Your complaining about the BOS being on the east coast and having a "straight hiking trail to the capitol wasteland" is completely stupid and shows you did not play or acknowledged the existence of the two spin off games from black Ilse studio called Fallout: Tatics and Fallout:BOS. Fallout:BOS is considered to be the undisputed worst game in the Franchise and no one seems to be sure if its Cannon. But Fallout:Tatics is actually pretty good. Both games cover the mid west Brotherhood which took an air ship from California to Chicago and then had the Air ship wrecked from a storm, then they rebuilt their chapter and created a new chapter to go to DC. Also Harold is is in Fallout tatics. Your point is wrong.

[@ryszakowy]

except bethesda took the part of brotherhood going to DC and rolled with it but made the faction generic good guys and those that stuck with their mission left willingly and called themselves "outcasts" reduced to radiant quest you are the stupid one here

[@mr.gockderdudel9274]

For faction i haf a idea waht is that a group of people from a near by states like west virgina are comming becaus ther heart about a water purifier and becaus ther desperate and the water chip taht are used in vaults are not in Option becaus ther are not a vault taht has one rember ther are only 200+ vaults so waht is that group heard about this and becaus of famen thy can't drade so they see just one Option to safe ther people Invasion it would be a godd role Switch beause the legendary vault dweler from Fallout 1 was taskt with safing his people with a water chipe

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Olay bt yu shold at leest trai tu use ropper rammar.

[@ryszakowy]

did the boom booms destroy your bookies with words?

[@mr.gockderdudel9274]

​​​@@ryszakowyNo i have Just horrible Englisch because i speak German or in Fallout words 1 Intelligenc

[@sxrvsvct7911]

wish they did what they did with new Vegas and the iron sights. fallout 3 would be so much better with that I agree. I just finished my 9 year old save file on fallout 3. I loved it so much. it's cool and funny how everyone is on it randomly. I think its bc of starfield.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Starfield will be an other mediocre experience and it will be highly successful and it will make games even worst like bethesda did with the microtransactions meanwhile it will lower the bar even more and next generation gamers will expect even less from games in the future.

[@sxrvsvct7911]

@@Zodroo_Tint we'll see, buddy.

[@ryszakowy]

nothing to see last 7 years proved it already

[@sxrvsvct7911]

@@ryszakowy games take a good amount of time to come out great. I dont want rushed shit. Skyrim lasted so long because it is that great. And starfield will keep me busy for years. Plus i barely have time to play. Im not 16 anymore. So it takes a long time to beat a game and i actually invest time into it. But youre allowed to say whatever.

[@jacobalsop]

Squirrel and iguana on a stick is actually human meat from either fallout 1 or 2. I think oxhorn did a video on it awhile ago

[@thatriverguy]

>Oxhorn >A legitimate source of Fallout lore PIck one.

[@CMG78]

i cant believe people still watch that clown

[@YoKhai1221]

Exactly its a nod to previous games, Im certain there’s lore to support it.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

@@thatriverguy Isn't Oxhorn was a good source before Fallout 76 came out and he gave up his spine because he is a fallout youtuber and without giving bethesda blow job and anal he doesn't have a job anymore? I know he is a terrible person in real life but he was actually a reliable source before 76.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

@@YoKhai1221 I think it is Doc Morbid in Junktown who made the iguana bits.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Bethesda is terrible at world building and this includes the "masterpiece" Skyrim too. And they lack any creativity. It wasn't like this during Daggerfall and Morrowind but both after Daggerfall and after Morrowind developers who made those games unique left the company and in the time of Oblivion bethesda became a soulles junk-game manufacturer. I could understand this because this is how the USA works but they went further than this. Now they had enough money to attack other companies who were still in the creative phase and they tried to destroy them. They became evil as soon as they had the opportunity. And now they are holding back the game evolution by lowering the bar and making the newer generations less intelligent if it comes to game quality.

[@ryszakowy]

i always say "bethesda is a game studio that did everything right... but never at once in one game" what they made ok-ish sucks completely in next game what they made terrible is either removed or replaced what they made great is downgraded so their fanbase can experience it for sure like the fact that skyrim has functional blacksmithing but neither weapons nor armor lose durability making the whole skill worthless or how they removed levitation after morrowind because dumbasses complained that low level skill is less useful that maxed out one many more examples of this in fallout alone

[@dennisknie4844]

Actually Scorpions are Arachnids anyway, so if you put spiders or scorpions in would not change a thing for people like me with Arachnophobia.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Arachnophobia does not care about science. You fear of spiders because of how they look not because they are arachnids.

[@EpsilonCobra]

Fallout 3 back in the day was the best fallout but after many year's have past and having both Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4 especially with mods i just can't enjoy Fallout 3 anymore, I'm just yawning endlessly, that doesn't mean it's not a good game but except from the atmosphere and map there isn't anything else going on in this game imao.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Except Fallout 3 is not Fallout at all. Or if it is then Fallout 1-2 is not Fallout.

[@ryszakowy]

nah, it was never in realms of "great" i'd say it's otherwise after failout 4 came out people realized that fallout 3 isn't that bad

[@WarDogMadness]

Nahh iron sights is one Of the worst features from early fps games to now.

[@v.k.healthlongevity9807]

I try not to be swayed by nostalgia when reflecting but the major thing i remember grasping me about F3 is the absolute feeling of bleak isolation. You really did feel like a lone wanderer. I think of all the games in the series it by far did the best job encapsulating what it would feel like to blindly trawl through a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Of course FNV went in the opposite direction but thats what makes them both so iconic in my opinion. Without the monochromatic fever dreamish experience of F3, the buzzing world of New Vegas wouldnt carry the same weight.

[@ryszakowy]

it would... beause it's vegas and despite bethesda's "help" it turned out close to what they planned for Van Buren fallout 3 has some good locations but again bethesda's incompetence makes sure you won't be anywhere longer than 5 minutes without a gunfight

[@musicfan4564]

Imagining fixes for a game, now let's do it. Imagining is just how table top games started and are not held back by restraints and the market. Fallout 3 and fable were supposed to be full, complex table top games translated to a more interactive experience, but they were exaggerated. This is how video games should have been all along, a perfect translation of table top games with all the variety and factors that came with them.

[@musicfan4564]

The hostility of the wasteland is not simulated well, it's too easy, it's like a game that is an oversimplification of another game.