*New* SMASH ULTIMATE TIER LIST (Mid/Low-High Tier)

[@imESAM]

Hey y'all, i'm sure most of you are aware of the current events with SWT/Panda Cup/Nintendo and stuff, and I just wanted to make sure that through the memes and everything (which some are godlike btw) I had no idea this was happening. If you saw the tweets from Coney or Jaaahsh (who are both higher up on the panda executive ladder than players/staff) they also had no idea. I am still waiting on more information. Regardless, it's December which is a pretty important month for YT uploads, so I'm going to still be uploading and will update y'all as more information comes out on what I personally will do. I can't really do that right now because I am just waiting on the most information possible, but...yea, figured I should say something in these comments.

[@jordanmccoy4504]

Don't worry bro, i understand. I just wish that we have more information about this. But it isn't you or the players fault. Hopefully new information will come out.

[@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome]

[@elliotjohnson6813]

not your fault. you didn’t deserve to catch so many strays. we’re with you, and i think i speak for everyone when i say we’re sorry for the personal/financial turmoil the situation will cause for you - all because of the actions of dr. alan.

[@BoBnfishy]

Thanks for the update

[@4Neraville4]

Hey Esam, maybe i have an idea for you. What do you think of an "on paper" Tier list? Where for example Marth would be higher than Lucina etc etc

[@Geoooooooooo]

I'm sure that nothing happened while esam was live to influence his placement of Dr Mario on this tier list

[@clunczgd5119]

$250

[@casenzi]

@@clunczgd5119 didnt happen

[@Geoooooooooo]

@@clunczgd5119 literally what are you talking about

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

i am sure that esam is genuinely moved by dr mario's abilities to place him there, as opposed to being genuinely moved by anything else, such as, for example, merely as a hypothetical possibility, money.

[@Presidentscontent]

@@clunczgd5119 must have been a dream DID not happen

[@FirstLastname604]

If you listen closely, you can slowly hear esams voice die more and more while explaining how doc is high tier

[@poulanthrope]

It cracks me up how random this list seems. "This character is really good, really scary, has so many tools, kills early, is just missing a combo game." Then you place the next one and it's "He sucks. He sucks hard. He loses to everything. He's higher ranked than the one I just praised for 2 minutes, but god is he garbage."

[@imESAM]

Its relative!!

[@meanmrmayo3915]

It always makes me laugh. He put K.rool before Bowser and said all this nice stuff and then he puts Bowser RIGHT ABOVE HIM and says "Yeah Bowser sucks"

[@bebgab1971]

I think it’s like he justifies why her put the first character that high (people think they’re worse than that placement), then he explains why he put the next character so low (people think they’re better)

[@Wienerdog5]

Imagine if Kirby could crawl. Like actually

[@jojostarsea]

in kirby's games they have a sliding crouch attack similar to the one cloud and sephiroth has. it would've made perfect sense for that to be their down tilt

[@mrknots]

I imagined it. It was very silly - thank you, I enjoyed that

[@honathan2135]

@@jojostarsea that would be much worse than his normal dtilt

[@victory1014]

@@honathan2135 depends on the end lag.

[@Wienerdog5]

I was saying how obnoxious moves like down tilt would be with the best crouch in the game thats also mobile. Same for up and f tilt

[@dylanr.7760]

Can’t wait for the people who didn’t see the stream get confused by the doc placement lmao

[@herewego5679]

Explain please lmao

[@Geoooooooooo]

@@herewego5679 doc is genuinely that good (and esam got given $250 to put him there)

[@redwarrior118]

Dr. Mario is definitely one of the characters of all time

[@ABAgamer_]

THE DR. MARIO SWEEP.

[@erickalvarez6486]

Appreciate your words on Lucas, luckily I'll show everyone how Lucas should be played, I think everyone is going for a bad angle (Like Diddy Kong before Tweek or Mario before Kurama). I'll do my best!

[@hayesperkins367]

i’m a lucas player too

[@musketg2774]

I love this mentality "yeah I get that this is ranked low bc it's hard to play. Fortunately, im just gonna be built different". Which I, for one, am very on board to see happen

[@CrowbornChaos]

Esam: Says "Theoretically a character is here or here". Does not show video of where he points. Me: Hmm, yes, i see. I see.....

[@El_Mince]

Dr. Mario is definitely that good. Esam definitely put him there because he thought he was good

[@licespice0]

Definitely

[@cedjiofthesand5701]

Is he actually trolling tho?

[@SleepyFawn]

@@cedjiofthesand5701 On stream making the tier list, someone gave him $250 to edit out doc's bottom 5 placement and put him in high tier. It was great.

[@Nokyyyyy]

@@SleepyFawn is that real?

[@SleepyFawn]

@@Nokyyyyy Yes, it's real. He's said so on multiple videos before.

[@MarkWiseTechno]

This Dr. Mario entry will live in infamy.

[@cedjiofthesand5701]

I swear I think he's trolling

[@MarkWiseTechno]

@@cedjiofthesand5701 if only you had watched the stream

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

13:45 Dr. Mario with the $250 clutch. Should’ve put him in Top Tier if he gave $1000

[@Brandon_4272]

So everything he said about Doc was a joke or fr?

[@mochaman29]

@@Brandon_4272 ya

[@eddiequincy3053]

It’s been like a year since they stopped updating ultimate but this man esam still makes a new list every 3 weeks bruh

[@Sponsie1000]

those are move-lists tho, his last tier list like this one is about half a year ago

[@NoName-zh1jz]

That’s because ultimate has the biggest roster with a lot of unexplored tech and other aspects in characters. This game is far from dead and the results are constantly changing.

[@spiritualak5147]

@@NoName-zh1jz ultimate atleast going to go another 3 years or it might be like melee

[@loganalleman]

"Sometimes everyone dies" that's really deep

[@stormRed]

Meta-Knight has become Anti-Meta-Knight

[@dvillegaspro]

Haha good wordplay

[@TBoss95]

Someone noticed. Huh.

[@Brandon-tz6vf]

I think if Nairo could still compete people might rank sephiroth higher

[@funjukebox1324]

^

[@praisethesun9014]

Good thing he’s not

[@aqua_serene]

RaZe dropped the Pits for Link. The best rep for them now would probably be Ichigo.

[@チョけ太郎]

Looking at Leon's Bowser makes sense, but if you look at Hero's bowser it looks like an underestimate.

[@DuyuCoyote]

Thank you for the updated list Esam.

[@theboi5584]

I can always rely on Esam for some crazy tier placements that make me think “You know what he has a point”

[@ZalvadorZali]

Half the clips are Jakals wolf getting wrecked, but Jakals Wolf is top notch

[@ryan_raus]

The low high-tier is the low tier redemption tier. Love to see it

[@izzygarnelo]

4:35 Did you just predict Big D getting top 3 at Mainstage days before it happened? Let's see if he gets 25th or 33rd at his next major and see if it's due to Pacman and a Belmont.

[@imESAM]

LMAOOOOO

[@benjaminratthe9904]

The fact that Kirby mains think dair sucks LOL

[@silikeez9641]

Personally as a Kirby main, I can say Dair does not suck.

[@lucass8119]

@@silikeez9641 Its like jigglypuff downair except it actually spikes. Kirby dair is insane

[@spiritualak5147]

Funny you say this because I was fighting a Kirby in arena yesterday as pit and he daired me like three time offstage before I could make it back to ledge. That move is crazy

[@gabrielmoravargas4728]

@@lucass8119 it's funny because even tho Kirby's dair is good Puff's is somehow arguably better

[@lucass8119]

@@gabrielmoravargas4728 Yeah, puff has confirms and the lack of knockback on all but the last hit make it reaaaaaally good for loops.

[@jc-pi9lf]

If the pits moves and combos worked the way they were intended too they’d be high tier easy. They can do everything but so many of their hit boxes and moves don’t work so it causes a lot of fallouts and whiffs that shouldn’t happen.

[@clancy2535]

TRUE (I’m a Dark Pit main.)

[@adamanderson9904]

On god they still high tier, yeah their moves don’t work but you can still make the character work really well. The biggest problem isn’t even the moves, it’s just that he’s slow. A little faster and he’d be low key broken

[@Marsdend1]

@@adamanderson9904 agreed, just a touch more airspeed and they'd be turning heads

[@kyx5631]

Just have him learn to tug his foot in when he down bs in the air, that's all I'm asking for.

[@j.ovinnn]

@@adamanderson9904 yea and there mobility is ass was well but there still really good if u know what ur doing

[@64l14]

For a teir list that values consistency, esam sure does talk about characters randomly winning/loosing

[@Sponsie1000]

He couldve explained it better l guess, but the way he uses randomness in that phrase is more like "Some characters can swing momentum/create openings/die at a low percent/have something happen when everything before that moment during the game wouldnt suggest that event at all." An event such as that to a layman might feel totally random/out of nowhere, which l think is what he means. Of course having the ability to create positive/negative swings is a huge boon/negative of a character, which is why it's valid to take it into consideration

[@pamoon_]

Now that Smash won’t get any more updates, I stand by what I said where Jigglypuff is near dead center on the tier list.

[@aydenraine470]

As a Kirby main, I agree with everything you said. If I didn't have the busted d-air I would not play him.

[@Nokyyyyy]

Yeah... But that's his worst move, remember ? _wink_

[@plabcentral630]

This is the wackiest tier list I’ve ever seen and I love it.

[@jakeswierdfriend7204]

Dr mario pilled

[@davehollis5816]

Underrated comment upvotes to the left

[@angusweir1708]

Will you make a video of every character's worst matchups?

[@ShinyMew76]

Mewtwo can be high tier, I think if Mewtwos perfect the slingshot and learn to space better to keep the tail away, Mewtwo can be amazing. There are not really many people who play him though

[@impreza316]

wtf? i watched 3 character explanations and got 4 ad breaks

[@gmwes]

IT IS SCARY HOW HIGH THIS MEANS HERO IS...

[@afxpunky2795]

Esam loses to NED once and goes on this Sephiroth is mid phase, I think he's still coping.

[@imESAM]

Ive always thought seph was ehh and most seph players do too except KEN

[@bigtoblerone8446]

@@imESAM Ned recently(?) Won back in blood 5 and even though no one picked the song one winged angel came on for the last match in grand finals On fd i think it was wild

[@jkeat8597]

@@imESAM Yes, but "top 25-30 ehh" rather than "top 50 ehh". You said yourself that you don't understand the character, but hard is not the same as bad.

[@afxpunky2795]

@@imESAM By eh they mean like top 30 not top 50.

[@Adubz24]

As a Sephiorth main I can say that the game plan is spacing. If spacing is bad, you will probably lose haha

[@legendsparda404]

Sephiroth is hidden top tier character. Whose real potential is yet to be discovered

[@sharifbrown3567]

I see Robin as a Low High Tier and Hero as a Mid High Tier.

[@bocaj71491]

I agree with you Robin is underrated I also believe Lucas is Low high tier, And Hero it all depends on his RNG during the match it's kinda hard to find a proper placement for him.

[@masch7000]

robin lacks a good out of shield and the grab feels sooo slow

[@sharifbrown3567]

@@masch7000 I play Robin, I'm aware of his strengths and weaknesses.

[@gerbz7695]

Been reppin puff for ages. You, Fatality, and Bass are like the only knowers haha

[@angusweir1708]

What are these "nine 8-2 matchups" you speak of for Ice Climbers?

[@imESAM]

Aegis steve pacman belmonts snake minmin Sorry, 6 LMAO

[@nathanthompson8666]

Chrom and Bowser being below Bayo is hilarious

[@pkfalcon1097]

Doc definitely wasn’t a 250$ bribe

[@krontexpit]

Your description of Pit was 100% accurate.

[@Numbo1]

Since these videos are long I like to watch them sped up, but ESAM talks too fast for me to understand when I speed it up XD.

[@Metalc]

Bros opinions getting worse after every tier list 😭

[@xanander4693]

Bro put Doc in low high tier 💀

[@jesuspernia8031]

Ike in low mid tier is an objectively garbage take no matter what. Anything below lower high tier is wrong and that’s just a fact.

[@BoneTea]

@@xanander4693 with no strings attached too, that was definitely his own opinion alone

[@potsandpineapples3319]

@@BoneTea someone paid 250$ for him to do it

[@potsandpineapples3319]

@@xanander4693 someone paid him 250$ for him to place Doc that high

[@kingbao9733]

He’s cracked the system. Tier list + ooga booga viewers = more views

[@lancejohnsonjr.8405]

The only reason Dr Mario's even remotely this high is because of no one knows how to edge guard. We literally saw that inkling have a clear shot with forward air offstage but he chose to ledge trap. So in current meta, I don't know about him being this high but I would say he's mid tier

[@zannax351]

250 dobloons

[@erussell033russell2]

I feel like everyone talks about Wadi being biased against combo characters, but he called out meta knight and Bayonetta getting recognition.

[@IfeAlikaboss]

Literally both of my mains on the thumbnail KMS XD.

[@nicholasstocker6866]

Finally! Kirby is no longer a bad character in Smash!

[@Jibbie3]

Bowser being in mid tier and Docter mario being in Low-High tier bugs me

[@codystork3008]

A guy in stream paid $250.00 for that Doc placement Doc was originally in bottom 4.

[@Jibbie3]

@@codystork3008 Ohhhh

[@dennisd.4726]

How did falcon not make low-high tier??

[@jlevelingsolo]

So are you going to resign from Panda or keep posting videos like you didn’t see the statement they posted!? Someone please upvote so he can see this. Man just want more subs and views not knowing he losing subs by being with Panda.

[@celticwind4122]

Kinda nervous corrin was forgot on the list.

[@A_Shut-in_NEET]

As much as I love dr Mario idk about that placement chief

[@compactpizza6337]

Wait lucario has a 3 fair carry off stage combo that sets into edgeguards even with aura… eh whatever

[@dehectic2401]

Idk if you can help me but I main king k rool and I wanna main someone else that’s a little bit better who should I go to??

[@HisRoyalAirness]

Finally people some putting respect on Puffs name!!

[@hakirayleigh]

Lol. Banjo has not results. 200% true

[@NoNeptune]

Mario and Aegis do not obliterate ridley. Those slight beating ridley if not even with ridley

[@mylastnamescox]

I've disagreed with so much here. But I'm also really bad at this game so that doesn't mean anything

[@appapp-yd2mu]

I am sorry but Inkling and Chrom lower than than Incineroar is crazy

[@yxngthugger1561]

One day dk will be meta

[@ryan_raus]

Doc in low high tier is craaaazy, definitely the hottest take of the tier list But I respect it!

[@Nokyyyyy]

Did Esam got beaten by AlexStacks to put Dr. Mario that high ?

[@titanlord2000]

Ok, so i'm no pro (but i am grinding in hopes to maybe become one) but bowser does NOT lose to swordies. He's faster than most and outranges a lot of them. He can play their game really well and outside of pyra and roy, the meta relevant swordies have a really hard time killing him

[@c1yd335]

…no? lucina, chrom, byleth, and sephiroth are really, really good and dealing with him

[@titanlord2000]

@@c1yd335 sephiroth, chrom and byleth arent meta relevant, and i think bowser is even or beats lucina. Edit: bowser also has an explosive factor that can overcome most bad matchups, just not super consistantly

[@sauce8277]

I could see this being something one day. Lucina too broken tho. Haha

[@Vinnus0824]

Cope

[@titanlord2000]

@@Vinnus0824 probably lol

[@kyx5631]

For Lucas and KRool, he put in a back-to-back dump on Yonni. Poor guy...

[@soup3673]

Is it me or is that Bowser's Smash 4 model in the thumbnail

[@ytcmbt2505]

esam you forgot to place Peach

[@Coolizard123]

How can you spend all of the time talking about bowser saying how DK is better in practice and rank bowser a whole tier higher?

[@BoneTea]

Bowser is a better character, dk is easier to play in bracket

[@sh0ggle264]

apparently lots of characters do a lot of things accidentally now??

[@typhlosion7872]

Remember when a Kirby player beat Atelier?

[@andrescube64]

I think Villager is a low high tier

[@adamanderson9904]

Man says the tier list isn’t based off results Ice climbers, claiming how pit doesn’t have a top rep, pichu, inkling, doctor Mario . Be fr esam, you not slick

[@jesuspernia8031]

Results matter. I don’t care how good you think a character is, the points they put on the board matter.

[@biledox5576]

it's often a mix between placements, matchups chart and moves / speed of the character

[@adamanderson9904]

@@jesuspernia8031 I know results matter, I’m just saying esam claims he doesn’t care about them then places characters based off results

[@ethanherzing652]

Is that the smash 4 bowser render 💀💀

[@MajinnFlan]

No plant?

[@brysonmcfaull1218]

Omg, you are not placing doctor mario this high 😭 He's my old main and I love him but my mental concept is exploding.... You put him above IKE? Than meta knight? I havent even reached the part of the video where you mention him yet Okay, ive seen the dr mario part of the video, and I think something worth mentioning is the inconsistency of doc offstage. A player competent at edgeguard leaves doc without hope.

[@biledox5576]

let's be honest, if Esam puts Doc in high tier, he IS high tier. It has nothing to do with a potential 250$ donation to put Doc high tier or something, trust me

[@echospace7347]

Why tf is dk and duck hunt in low tier didn’t dk just get 3nd at a major and chunky king getting great results

[@jesuspernia8031]

Because apparently to Esam “results don’t matter”

[@plabcentral630]

Played Ridley science day one and I love him. The Steve matchup is bad but not as bad as palu oh please god never palu.

[@papasmurf6423]

You could convince me that link is top 25 in the game.

[@bratfettlp5512]

13:18 the best european bowser is i belive darkthunder from Germany

[@fromjahwluv]

no sora or byleth in this group, feelsfuckinggoodman

[@plushfan0984]

Lucas by far the hardest for playing the character?

[@copycat472]

mfw esam realizes mk beats all the mu's he struggles with other than zss but that's a skill diff

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

Lucas is "here" or "here" .......

[@talkingshark9996]

Kirby is the best bad character and Ridley is the worst okay/good character

[@potsandpineapples3319]

Kirby is the worst okay good character

[@ryan_raus]

6:20 this was nutty

[@ethansura]

i firmly disagree with Bowser's placement

[@チョけ太郎]

Hero needs to come to NA to raise Bowser's position.

[@xanander4693]

Low-high tier is an interesting way of saying mid tier…

[@kisameh420]

2:07 Ridley beats Steve IMO

[@Bustnq]

Are you good?

[@Kingturtle15]

Sora above Sephiroth. First time seeing that.

[@OmniscientVoid]

Doc is high tier?

[@xanander4693]

No

[@davidc.]

Esam got paid to put him higher. It's simply a joke

[@jesuspernia8031]

Doc top 5 EZ

[@echospace7347]

Pichu being in mid tier is so funny to me😂

[@Trattt]

Lmao yeah it should be in low tier

[@sauce8277]

@@Trattt man. You are positive. I like that. Will get you far.

[@NoName-zh1jz]

Back when he was the best character at launch 💀

[@johnnyboi290]

@@NoName-zh1jz Was he actually the best character or people thought he was the best?

[@vick7868]

Idk where you got MK beating Pac but he doesn't. He struggles against Hydrant to the point where all we need to really watch for is the down b, and we have fair to swat him really easily. Theres more but the moral of the story is that we auto-win neutral against him and he doesn't have enough counterzoning to compensate. +1 for us.

[@Grey-ew6rq]

How many characters can win by accident. Wild, pika legit tho

[@Grey-ew6rq]

+ Bald

[@aaricdaniels6117]

Where’s greninja

[@ip7630]

I’m sorry can someone fill me in with the doc meme placement 😭

[@LiorRonen]

Esam put doc as the 4th worst character in the game, but then somebody payed him 250$ to put him low high tier

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

top tiers soon!

[@dragonfruitreal]

KIRBY IS NOT IN LOW TIER YES YES YES YES!!

[@nicholasstrazzulla4670]

Doctor Mario??