Immersed in Quest 3 (High Res Virtual Monitors)

Thanks for all the interest in the previous videos! after a lot of requests I have now made this video about another great option for Desktop on Quest.
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[@augm3ntxr541]

Thanks for the in depth walkthrough! Immersed is really leading in the productivity arena. Im trying to imagine what actual VR versions of desktop software will be like instead of just floating screens, but this is exactly what Im looking for for now!

[@bc_labs]

Honestly I just wish applications would let you stream the window of the application instead of the whole monitor in VR. Someday, maybe. Honestly most of our data collection methods are 2d, whether that's written documents, spreadsheets, drawings, Eck so I think 2D applications just floating in space are more likely the average use case. There are things like CAD another spatially driven things that might need something a bit more dynamic

[@phildelafunk]

I thought horizon workrooms allows for streaming the app window

[@slackerpope]

Excellent video. Love the level of detail. Thanks for putting in all the hard work!

[@user-ob5sx2dz8l]

you will not find such detail there. It is lie. Video show only marketing. Inside soft in vr the picture is much more worst

[@Maveric]

I use Immersed whenever I want to do work but then not be at all distracted. I've put in full time work hours with it too. I really like being able to arrange the displays exactly how I want them. It improved my productivity ten-fold when it was working. The problem I had was that my work laptop was trash and we were stuck using resource-heavy Teams for communication.

[@craftsjames]

how about keyboard functionality? i do a lot of typing

[@yasin5659]

Mac keyboards are recognized natively, in surimpression of your view, works very well.@@craftsjames

[@MrHermangv]

I used remote desktops with my job, I wonder if I will be able to use quest with it

[@genericelaf1007]

It seem nice. Thank you for give us this video about Immersed.

[@pgreeff]

Thank you for the excellent review. I've been using Immersed on and off for a few years now with my Quest 2 when the need for extra monitors necessitate it, however, I kept going back to the tiny laptop screen because the resolution of the Quest 2 is just a tad too low, the edge to edge clarity leaves a lot to be desired and the grey scale passthrough is terrible. It looks like all three have been improved and should make the experience a lot more enjoyable and practical. You can disable hand interactions with a ring finger and thumb pinch. Menus and the like still work, but you wont accidentally move portals or screens.

[@Zokiio]

Thank you for taking the time at addressing reading part. I my self went ahead with getting my self a headset and quite happy with it. However, I would not say that I could use it for a full day of working, which will probably have to wait until the Quest 4 maybe :P

[@bc_labs]

I'm glad I could help! I think if I get a different strap I could use it for many hours on end

[@Zokiio]

I think i briefly saw a bobovr in one of your tabs? I was thinking of buying the m3 when it gets released for my headset :)

[@bc_labs]

@@Zokiio yeah, I got one for Q2, waiting on Q3 adapter. Q2 is for guests now, lol.

[@jjxu7553]

May I know where can you get the Q3 adapter? Do they sell separately on amazon? THANK YOU!@@bc_labs

[@SimonGrech]

The issue of grabbing the passthrough window over the keyboard is a user issue :P You can pinch both your ring finger to your thumb together while holding your palm facing you and like that you will "disable" your hands. Like that you won't grab and virtual objects by mistake while typing or anything else.

[@bc_labs]

I've tried that after a previous suggestion and it still doesn't seem to work on mine. Might have an option disabled or something

[@leonseled]

Thanks for making this, very insightful. So if I'm primarily going to be programming, would you say Quest 3 + Immersed is the best VR setup right now?

[@iakobkv271]

Ofc

[@bc_labs]

Probably, yeah. Workrooms is good at a desk but is less feature rich

Editing video on this? Multi monitor for davinci resolve?

[@JoshWeeks]

If you pinch your thumb and ring finger on your right hand, it will make your hands turn red and they will stop interacting with all of the ui stuff which is super helpful

[@bc_labs]

I'll have to try that. Great info!

[@exhaustor5983]

Hi, have you tried usb link connection? Does it have bad latency as well? Also are there any ultrawide resolutions for virtual monitors?

[@jirka4061]

I would like to know about ultrawide to, and also about vertical monitor.

[@serhanuygur8784]

Wifi6e should be way enough for a high bandwith stream from computer. Usb 3.1 gen 1 and wifi6e has the same bandwith, wifi is even a little higher and ofc there will be some efficency loss . But more or less same.

[@serhanuygur8784]

Problem here is recording i think. Because he is so close to router. I have 10-20 latency on my VD on quest 3 with a gamer gimmick asus router 😉

[@user-ph1qr9yl6h]

The hand tracking could be better. But this is also coming from someone who is new to Quest and the only other VR I used was the older Playstation VR. But I still like it and am glad it is an option. The only thing I don't like is how it sometimes selects things or it grabs and moves my screen when I didn't mean to.

[@bc_labs]

It really is still miles better on Q3 than when it launched on Q2. I use it a lot, and it generally is pretty good, with limits

[@toeriest]

Another question I have, how useful is the quest 3 for learning/education tools? Such as coursera, linkedin learning, maybe duolingo? Can you watch video's from the first 2 and at the same time have some kind of note taking posibility? And for duolingo, can you use touch in browser mode?

[@bc_labs]

I'll have to do some tests. I was able to watch KZbin videos and use word / excel at the same time. I haven't seen any note taking apps that work off the bat. A lot of options are present if you are willing to side load from Android apps. But unfortunately they're still kind of lacking in terms of native store apps that are geared for productivity

[@toeriest]

@@bc_labs thanks for the feedback!

[@games4us132]

imaging playing Death Stranding on a 8K VR screen. 😳

[@dudemannxs]

Since I have been using Immersed, I have been experiencing some jankiness from the software like not being able to easily get to pass through from the menu and the hard tracking going south from time to time. This can be fixed by restarting the software on the Quest. I suspect that now people are starting to use it, an update will be coming. Glad to see you’re using Godot! That’s another video 😂

[@bc_labs]

I have a short about using Godot on Quest later today, but I found a potential better option for it than immersed.... I hope they clean up immersed a bit, but I feel like 95% of the time it's fine, but the rest I get a little jank.

[@dudemannxs]

@@bc_labs better option?! Please share the better option!I’m definitely down for this workflow for development 👍

[@vyathaen]

Can you make any kind of virtual monitor ? for example 32:9 ultra wide that wraps around ? or does it have to physically exist?

[@bc_labs]

Different remote desktop apps have different options, but I haven't seen an ultrawide yet. I might just not have been looking for it though

[@Shoniforce]

i tried immersed both wifi and usb-c, but the screens just seem to be 30 or 60fps, i cant handle it.

[@merion297]

Hm, it's interesting that your 1080p60 video format does look like 480p, at least around 2:20, maybe you mis-clicked something in the video editor. Now continuing to watch your video, I'm excited, I want this virtual setup… 😊 🤘🏼

[@bc_labs]

That might have been one of the videos I was using in shot for, and I had some weird editor behaviors.

[@finn6343]

Great Video!!

[@HollisJamison]

Is the quality of text noticeably better than quest 2? I tried to use this on the quest 2 and it like 10% not clear enough

[@bc_labs]

It's noticeably better, in my other monitor-related video that had a thumbnail of a Quest 3, it shows off how clear it is

[@Ghofy]

I love my Questrade. The only thing I wish is that they had no foundry and I wish that you could take your browser or the screen in front of you whenever you walk around your space.

[@micanalnotienenombre]

Hey, complete VR noob here. Just got my Quest 3 and I'm still learning the ropes. What is Questrade?

[@Ghofy]

@@micanalnotienenombre i meant to type “SideQuest” its VR games that are not on oculus store yet. Some games are in beta or made by smaller developers.

[@exodous02]

This is what I wanted a VR headset for since the beginning. I downloaded Immersed the first day I got my quest 2 and was let down. It got better but the resolution of the quest 2 became the biggest problem. I'm really tempted to buy a quest 3, I just wish workrooms worked with Linux.

[@bc_labs]

I would agree I wish there was more Linux support in some of these desktop streamers. It's already a bit of a letdown anyway for Linux users who daily drive it or use it for a productivity machine. It's another let down because of the steamedex popularity it would make it really nice deal to utilize the steam deck as basically a mini NUC, driving the headset for gaming and non-gaming purposes.

[@saberbomber24]

awesome video

[@Archie-pf2gb]

could you put any on that screen in 360 "mode" for example if you want to play any game remotely you can play in virtual reality remote

[@bc_labs]

Virtual desktop supports that, as well as alvr. There are specific streamers set up for that purpose unlike immersed. Because you're not really streaming 360 you're only streaming the rendered portion of the game and you're sending inputs back and forth based on headlook and everything

[@WarlordMoA]

The only problem I have with the immersed app the latency bandwidth is weak and Meta has to fix this problem with double tapping or single tapping.

[@BeaugosseRiche]

Latency even when wired?

[@BlackLoboGaming]

Is there a way to run this while connected to you PC? I would like to use this to make VR games but since it's running through the oculus it won't connect to my headset when I try to run the game. Thanks and also amazing tutorial!

[@bc_labs]

I am not sure honestly. I think you might be stuck doing one or the other unless you closes out of immersed to run your game instance

[@BlackLoboGaming]

Got it, thank for your help!@@bc_labs

[@carlhorton4478]

I really don't want to be dependent on a computer when I use my quest. Can't wait for more 2D productivity apps to be ported over, especially open source ones like Thunderbird for Email, LibreOffice for an Office Suite and Gimp for photo editing. But at a minimum, I wish the Quest browser would let me save web sites as native 2D apps, the same way Chrome and Safari do for the desktop.

[@AdrianGE98]

you can sideload any android app I got chrome and ms office on mine

[@bc_labs]

I am doing some videos coming on sideloaded options. Will be doing a tutorial soon. Definitely wish they were officially in the store, though.

[@dwaynemcpherson5379]

Also use fluid

[@florianl6764]

Can you play league of legends on the meta quest? Does it work or is it to hard delayed?

[@bc_labs]

It would depend on the streamer, but probably the best paying that you'd be able to get between your computer and the quest is going to be like 20 to 30 milliseconds, so it depends on what level of play you're at on league. You'd have to test different remote desktop clients to find the one that's got the lowest delay

[@toeriest]

Can you edit photos in applications such as Lightroom on these virtual screens? If so what is the quality? And it's it tooth?

[@bc_labs]

The main limitation is whether you're doing color sensitive things or not because I don't think this has HDR so you need to kind of confirm if color accuracy matches with your expectations. But I feel like for a lot of things yeah you could definitely do some editing with this setup

[@toeriest]

@@bc_labs thanks for the reply!

[@BrackenSharp]

What would be the best way to play League of Legends on a virtual screen?! Higher resolution like 1440p and fast response time/low delay for competitive play.

[@bc_labs]

I would probably recommend virtual desktop, but supposedly some people are getting really low latency with immersed. So I may do some testing to see if I can find some optimal settings to get the latency down on it such that it doesn't make playing games like League or CS to difficult. Currently you can only have one active screen up at a time unless you swap back and forth, but virtual desktop definitely has the tools to make the best connection for that one screen especially if you're in a gaming situation and basically want is fast and as clear of an image as possible

[@robmoore2625]

Have you tried increasing resolution on the Quest3 with QuestGamesOptimizer 9?

[@bc_labs]

I have not

[@robmoore2625]

@@bc_labs Can you check if resolution/text gets better/sharper on vspacial and immersed?

[@robmoore2625]

​@@bc_labsHave you tried QGO yet?

[@DaveKariYoutubeChannel]

Could you please test if you can set a game to be 3 monitors wide? Im planning on buying a quest 3 and want to use it to create virtual ultrawide monitor to play simracing

[@DanRobsMore]

I would use the virtual desktop app for this use case and create a custom resolution using your GPUs control panel settings

[@DaveKariYoutubeChannel]

@@DanRobsMore do you know which program would be the best to use for the virtual desktop with the highest quality and lowest latency?

[@bc_labs]

Virtual desktop always had lowest latency for me

[@bc_labs]

Why not use VR streaming for Sim racing instead of 3 curved monitors?

[@DaveKariYoutubeChannel]

@@bc_labs i want to use Quest 3 to create virtual monitor(s) to see in 32:9 or at least 21:9 in forza motorsport, that doesn't support VR.

[@punyani775]

Is there a way to change your hands to something else? Say, paws or robotic hands.

[@bc_labs]

Not so far, unless a game is specifically using hand tracking

[@andi_pilz]

Can Immersed be used with blutooth mouse and keyboard connected to the quest3?

[@bc_labs]

I thought so, but when I've tested it, it doesn't work.

[@rotorfpv4117]

Is it possible to save the settings of virtual monitors so that everything returns to normal after turning off the goggles and turning them back on?

[@bc_labs]

From my experience it seems like they stay in the same spot unless you change your room. The headset does spatial tracking of individual rooms, and only seems to remember one or two. So if you used immersed in your office for example, if you don't set up any other rooms in between uses it should remember roughly your position of everything from last time if let's say one day later you try to use it in your office again. It's not necessarily perfect but it's usually pretty close. If you were to move to a different room and set up let's say a spot in your living room I don't know if it will recall your settings from your office if you went back to the office.

[@gtamediaproductions1]

How does it get on to your pc on the road? You need to be closer to your pc don't you?

[@bc_labs]

I believe immersed and virtual desktop will actually work over the web even if you are away from your computer if both the computer and the headset are connected to internet, and if the computer is running the screen streamer application with the correct account credentials. There is some lag when using it this way but it is possible. Otherwise yes you would generally want to have the computer close to you streaming over local Wi-Fi to get the best experience

[@flippers9052]

hi, may i know how to set up audio? i keep clicking "enabling audio" but no sound come out from quest 3

[@bc_labs]

Which audio device is selected on your PC?

[@flippers9052]

@@bc_labs guess it is a bit buggy. Now it works. Thanks so much for your video! I bought mine after watching your videos

[@JynxedKoma]

You play JK:O (Jedi Knight: Outcast)? What an absolute legend...

[@bc_labs]

Not yet, setting it up for VR on the Q3

[@JynxedKoma]

I meant play it in general, but still, I really want to try out the VR version that a patreon member made a while back. @@bc_labs

[@_Spacecraft]

Did this require admin rights to install? I would buy a quest 3 and pay for this monthly if I could install it in user space on my work laptop.

[@bc_labs]

I will try to confirm and respond, but none of them are portable they at least require install but they may not require admin rights

[@RetroNels]

If you use it three times within ten days you get premium for free (ie the two extra screens for a total of five). This lasts as long as your streak does (streaks can be frozen if you're away for holidays etc. for a couple dollars I think it was). Additionally you can permanently buy the two extra screens for $30, in a one off payment. You could pay a subscription, but you won't need to.

[@bc_labs]

I saw mention of that option, I just haven't used immersed consistently enough to ever trigger it to know all the parameters. I figured there were bigger caveats than that, but that's actually pretty good.

[@Kubsbeats]

Great Video! My audio is doubling both computer and Quest 3...How do I fix this?

[@bc_labs]

Honestly not sure. If I find a solution I'll share it. But I haven't had this issue

[@slackerpope]

Here is my short term use case for getting the Quest 3. I'm getting reconstructive surgery on my angel and heel soon. I'll be spending 6 weeks on bed with my ankle above my nose. I'm looking to the Quest 3 for productivity and entertainment. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated. ;-)

[@darkduck189]

Get a powerbank or link cable to keep it running for a long time otherwise you will have to charge it every 2 hours for 2 hours

[@mrfairact8662]

Why doesn't Steam Deck work on the Quest 3 with Win11? I also have Virtual Desktop but a connection with the oculus Windows app is not possible. Quest 3 is recognized on my laptop but not on the Steam Deck with win11...

[@bc_labs]

I actually haven't explored this yet, I do have a steam deck and I have a external drive I can boot Windows off. If I figure out a solution I'll put up a video and I'll try to remember to tag you. Off the top of my head I can't think of any reason it would have an issue

[@mrfairact8662]

@@bc_labs ok, thx for answering

[@jeremytodd77]

This thing is amazing and I started using it today from my Mac with a full battery but the thing absolutely killed the battery in under 90 minutes... Q3 has really terrible battery life and it doesn't charge as fast as the battery drains even plugged in to the charger while using it. Curious if anyone else is seeing this issue as well.

[@bc_labs]

Battery is definitely mediocre, I'm doing some testing on the battery and will be reporting back once I get more comprehensive findings

[@The_Light_Pharaoh]

I keep my Quest 3 charging while using it

[@almostrandomnickname]

same quest 3, battery lasts less than 1 hour and takes what..3 hs ? to get charged... you gotta plug with a large cable ... I did that. pretty cool experience, did some coding using this app... I was about to return quest 3 but immerse got me immersed.

[@bc_labs]

@amouratoglou less than an hour sounds like a problem. I've never had it last that short of a period, you might have to RMA it, or might need to consider using the newer battery saver setting.

[@frankphpdevelopment4003]

i love immersed, unfortunately battery dies really fast, I'm considering buying a second quest 3 so I can work 10hrs on them and switch the charging, even using usb c cable to charge them they last like 4 hrs.

[@bc_labs]

There are hot swappable battery pack options for Q3

[@frankphpdevelopment4003]

@bclabs2453 they don't last long with passtrough on, I use them connected to the charger and still they use more battery than what it charges.

[@bc_labs]

@frankphpdevelopment4003 I'll do some run out tests, but even by my calculations if you have three batteries (based on B2 from BoboVR) you'll be able to get through about 6 to 8 hour day. That's based on worst case battery consumption, but the fact that the deck can pull up to 18 watts and most of those batteries are between 12 and 15 watt, still means the deck does partially drain the entire time. Still not ideal for sure though. I do hope that more charging options come available soon

[@frankphpdevelopment4003]

@@bc_labs Thank you, maybe my cable is not passing enough power, I'll check

[@JoeyAndJudy]

@@frankphpdevelopment4003 - I think you can upgrade the included charger to a higher wattage one to help that a bit.

[@elrilesy]

Can you do vertical monitors with immersed?

[@bc_labs]

I didn't test it explicitly but there were options for vertical resolutions in the immersed settings so I imagine it's very possible, and it's also a common use case for a spare monitor to be vertical so I would be shocked if you couldn't

[@hadroncollider17]

Its really great when it works but I find it extremely buggy and everytime I've used it I've had to do some combination of resetting my headset and pc until things work. Also, it has some runtime executing at startup that you can't disable unless you uninstall the app.

[@bc_labs]

You can make the runtime not start at startup in the Startup tab of Task Manager

[@bc_labs]

I've had a couple bugs, but not horribly bad usually. It could be a bit smoother, though.

[@user-ph1qr9yl6h]

lol. Just noticed your camera recording is not lining up with your headset recording. We look so ridiculous when we are tapping the air and dragging around nothing.

[@bc_labs]

Yeah I've been trying to master some of the settings for recording with the headset. This first video unfortunately I did not know that there were options to get landscape versus portrait capture, as well as options to adjust the bit rate of recording. And yeah hand tracking is sometimes a little bit off so it looks funny on recording, even though it feels pretty close to accurate when you're using it, although occasionally it's quite wrong, lol. Still loving my Q3.

[@jurisbaranovskis4915]

Funny video :)), did you use this program before :))) ?¿ , its looks like first time :)

[@bc_labs]

I've used it a while ago, but I tried to go in fresh, to show how cumbersome some of the controls are. Nothing is ever quite where it should be, and menu controls are sluggish, but the monitor streaming quality is nice.

[@YoungShyne123]

Vr will be mainstream when the meta os and apple os automatically can do it out of the box . Good luck buddy

[@bc_labs]

WhatsApp is already supported, they just need to have more native apps which is largely a bit on developers and a bit on Meta to make it easier. Most Android apps just work when side loaded. But Meta could do a little bit of improvement to the UI implementation in their XR user space

[@allistergraham6704]

I thought the passthrough was gonna look crisp, but dang when you're looking through the lenses it looks like an early 2000s camera phone, when you record it and look back it looks fine though, so it can be very misleading

[@bc_labs]

In really really good lighting, it looks pretty dang good. Like I was able to read the ingredient labels in my fridge with it on quite well, but as soon as the lighting Falls to like decent or less than decent it goes to Absolute crap. As someone else pointed out and out in a discussion it's probably due to the fact that you can't set the exposure time higher on these cameras due to the fact that you need a high refresh rate, which just comes into the physics of cameras. Unless you have a massive expensive sensor, you need more time if you want a better quality image, which Cuts in the refresh rate it would make it feel stutters. I think that there's options for them to improve pass through with software upscaling to fill in the blanks essentially, or if they did some kind of interlacing so that they could Alternate which cameras are being read at any given time to give a longer frame time, but idk. That's just wishful thinking, no actual proof that it's in the works.

[@allistergraham6704]

@@bc_labs yep, after some more trials I can confirm it looks better with really good lighting, but I had to go outside during the day to find out lol

[@NEKTARIOSZOGKOS]

Why not oculus home? Free and same think ... Doesn't it?

[@bc_labs]

You talking about via airlink or cable? I just had issues with airlink with my gpu, but yeah Oculus home let you share desktop also. I can't remember if you can have virtual monitors ( like that exceed those that your computer already has physically) with that though. I'm doing a whole series on all the options, immersed was just first because a lot of requests were made

[@RockG.o.d]

5 a month for extra monitors, wtf... its just a simple app compared to the games which are coming out, and then it is dependant on the other hardware you have. so what resolutions does the free one give? Id be happy to buy a full version for 20, but subscription models are robbery.

[@bc_labs]

I don't disagree as for subscription models. There is a $35 one time option to get 5 screens total, but I think your resolution is still capped at 1200p Eventually I think MSFT and Meta will have better standard options, but currently Immersed has cornered the market some of of these features.

[@RockG.o.d]

@@bc_labs capping resolution, that sucks. is there a way to get around it by hooking up a small monitor, i.e a 720p panel and maybe increasing the resolution to same as main monitor?

[@bc_labs]

@RockG.o.d possibly, but I don't think windows will let you set the resolution higher than the monitor I can't accept. There's other options though if you find immersed caps to annoying, there is meta Horizon workrooms which is mostly for a desk but you can just set a desk that's imaginary, or you could use Virtual desktop for one monitor, and I think vSpatial also offers multi-monitor support but I haven't tested it yet

[@RockG.o.d]

@@bc_labs I thought it could be done in the NVidia menu with custom resolutions. or also plug in HDMI cable to the spare HDMI of the monitor. so then you have 2 screens from one monitor

[@broken-code]

I used immersed but the quest 2 quality isn’t good enough for this

[@bc_labs]

The quest 3 definitely heightened the experience. It's still not perfect, I think the 4K displays on the Apple Vision Pro do give it a leg up, I find the resolution on the quest 3 and quite acceptable. Feel like Comfort is still the main obstacle and it's affecting all the headsets pretty ubiquitously

[@WarlordMoA]

As if the coffee shop has good stable WiFi lol 😂

[@bc_labs]

There are Wi-Fi Direct options actually, and it doesn't have to have good internet to the actual web, it just has to have good signal to the router and back from the router

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

WHAT i WANT to know is how it feels to play a 2d game inside the headset, because reverb g2 it was like shit

[@BradleyCulbertson]

Pretty sure half of what you said about Immersed was wrong it is not a monthly subscription for extra monitors is a one time fee and USB-C is available without sidequest

[@bc_labs]

I edited out a long bloated section where I mentioned the fixed $30 extra monitors (everything else was covered outside of this cut section), as it both doesn't included higher Resolution, capped at 1200p. Usb-c used to be only through sidequest iirc, I didnt test it because its not really useful for me. I never said that needed a subscription. The subscription includes extra monitors and higher resolution as well for the $5

[@BradleyCulbertson]

@@bc_labs is this a PC thing cause usb c always worked without side quest on Mac. I’m not hating I just see a lot of people thinking it’s a full walk through. So I’m mainly letting them know.

[@BradleyCulbertson]

I’m new to your content, are you PC only? Us Mac users can’t use VD. One of the main focus of immersed is the social, collaborative aspects. Correct me if I’m wrong but VD doesn’t have a cafe style environment to meet other people does it?

[@bc_labs]

@BradleyCulbertson why can't Mac users use Virtual desktop? VD even has a Mac version of its streamer. But correct as far as I know and have used, virtual desktop is very focused on your content and onto your headset, not any of the collaborative options. There are environments, but you can't bring other people into them as far as I'm aware. Currently I only use Windows and linux, but I have kicked around the idea of picking up a Mac for certain workflows so at a certain point I might have more content that is I'm focused around issues that Mac users will run into. I try to at least research what works and what doesn't so I can still share information

[@BradleyCulbertson]

@@bc_labs I may just be assuming on the VD, going off of the quest store description it says PC so I assumed windows. Maybe their intention was just in general computers. But I’ll look into it more. All the videos I watched before, granted it was a while ago, they mention being PC only. But that’s good news if they have a streamer.

[@latonproensa1186]

Why does the screen keep blacking out on the left side? Is that the experience everyone gets with this headset? Seems annoying

[@bc_labs]

I guess I'm not familiar with the problem you're having, is it only the screen on your left side? You might have a faulty headset

[@bc_labs]

It's also possible, but unlikely that your left side is brushing up against your boundary if your boundary is very small, but I would imagine that would have been something consistent enough that you would have noticed it

[@ianeyansky5635]

Does this work offline?

[@bc_labs]

I ran it locally over a Wi-Fi connection that had no internet set to it. Also I believe immersed now has a USB option or you can use a USB cable

[@FERNANDOPENAS]

I would pay for having multiple screens anywhere I want in my passthrough home. Not 3 monitors for one single application .

[@arian7449]

Why do you see everything so clearly? It doesn't look so sharp to me

[@bc_labs]

I will say a piece of it is that I made sure to have lots of lighting in the room, but really it doesn't look as clear as it does in the video. It is usable and it does allow me to maneuver my office and pick up items and stuff like that. But pass through is not the same quality as it shows up in video. That is likely because when I capture it on a video, you're putting a 4 megapixel camera stream on a much smaller display generally it's going to be on someone smartphone or maximum a 27-in monitor. If you do the same thing but you cover your entire field of vision with a four megapixel camera feed, you're not going to get the same level of quality, it's going to be very fuzzy and blurry.

[@alexkavak5055]

META desktop now support 3 windows desktops, so you not need immersed now

[@bc_labs]

Meta remote desktop or workrooms? I was just tinkering with meta remote desktop and didn't see the multiwindow option. This would be very welcome.

[@zabugd2379]

how can i find my pairing code???

[@bc_labs]

It popped up on my menu when immersed first opened. It's not showing?

[@zabugd2379]

@@bc_labs i figured it out ty

[@josemartins-game]

Very Nice, but problemátic in Linux, to create new monitors. Só I can not use it for work.

[@bc_labs]

Yeah it's unfortunate there's not more readily available support for virtual monitors built into windows and Linux, it seems like there's always hacky solutions that are kind of proprietary

[@bc_labs]

It's likely possible for you to get one of those dummy display dongles though that you can plug into the computer that mimics having a display plugged in, I know that works for Windows not sure if it works for Linux but I imagine it does

[@user-ob5sx2dz8l]

why you do not say that text in Immersed is blurry, and only 16mbpc of bitrate. Absolutely unreadable text if to make screen for about 32 inch like hardware monitor. Only huge monitors that will make head to move from left to right until user will be tired.

[@bc_labs]

It's not blurry, not on Quest 3. I can try with smaller monitors to confirm, but it looked pretty good when I tested them at various sizes and distances. I was using a dedicated local router connection so that might have improves my performance. Is immersed software locked to 16mb/s?

[@bc_labs]

I founds some info as to the bitrate cap in immersed. Although I never suffered much from it, I will do some experimenting and comment on it further. (I read that there are some workarounds as well) Thank you for noting this issue.

[@user-ob5sx2dz8l]

make 32 inch monitor 2k and see it by yourself. Huge monitors do not make, its not usable for working day. Eyes can not see much inf on such screen. PS. I spent about 3 months for differents setups and know what shit it is in reality@@bc_labs

[@00Jj262]

Great video. Could be a little more concise, but that's just nitpicking.

[@bc_labs]

Yeah I tried cutting it, but kept wanting to include other cool features

[@DennisLerche]

That microphone though...

[@bc_labs]

It definitely did not do a good job, and I couldn't push the gain any higher in editing. Definitely learning from some mistakes on this video for the next. Probably will need to reprocess this one later

[@DennisLerche]

@bclabs2453 The sound quality on the mic. is unfortunately poor, like a can and picks up every breath. Poor engineering from meta, as this is a cheap component compared to so many other things.

[@kellymoses8566]

I wish we could move away from the concept of monitors in VR to just having the application window floating freely.

[@bc_labs]

I would too, and I think that is a big benefit of using Android style apps, I just hope that they actually start supporting them and allowing resizing in both visual modes, as well as anchoring like they showed with augments.

[@tmizgalski]

BUT IT WORKS OFFLINE???

[@bc_labs]

Over local wifi, yes. If I said otherwise, I was mistaken.

[@gorga8618]

One thing we can all clearly agree on... despite all the extra features, Immersed has terrible product design and UX.

[@bc_labs]

Yeah, I think that some of their ideas are great like I think that the hand menu is a great idea. Needs a little work but generally makes sense. But the Whiteboard really confuses me on how you're supposed to use it, and some of the public room buttons and all that just if you barely graze it is takes you off into Oblivion. Some of the menus are also kind of hidden. It is extremely powerful and flexible, and it's free unless you have a need for the pro scooters so I I'm happy that it exists as an option but they definitely could work on the UI a lot

[@kevinbatdorf]

can you try actually writing code for an hour and talk about that?

[@bc_labs]

I will try to get a video together on that. It's been a pretty crazy week, I've been trying to get my review out and I hadn't got to it yet. I'll definitely be trying to use it for code and or document word processing for a few hours and do a short video on that. I did try to work in it for 2 hours with work rooms, but I was having trouble getting the strap adjusted and work rooms doesn't have the same clarity as some of the other remote desktop clients so I don't want to base all my opinions on that

[@kevinbatdorf]

@@bc_labs That would be great. I appreciate it, thank you. I just ordered the headset and will experiment too but it would be nice to get your opinion after reviewing them all.

[@MrFenkins]

Did anyone counted how many time regular person would have unintentionally lost the immersion while setting this bullshit up?

[@serhanuygur8784]

I dont see any point of using this instead of virtual desktop . Its so junky and not refined. I think joining others to work with your room and screens are cool but thats all imo.

[@bc_labs]

The main issue is virtual desktop at least as of time of recording, and I'm still not sure if they got that update out or not. With meta remote desktop, and immersed, you have the option of having up to three or five screens depending. That's the real difference of being able to have multiple screens displayed at the exact same time from your same computer. I would agree immersed is clunky unfortunately, and I think they kind of overstuffed it full of features and didn't polish out the bugs

[@dandupaysdegex]

Talk in your microphone! The volume is too low!

[@bc_labs]

I had technical difficulties with one of my mics, so I tried to crank up the gains and the bring the others down to match. Indeed, I need to reconfigure my audio setup

[@user-ob5sx2dz8l]

Guys, video doesn't show how it is in reality. Try to rent a headset and see by your own eyes. Or wait until soft will be better. Bloggers are lying. Not comfortable to use headsets for work. I am trying for several months it. And this is shit

[@bc_labs]

This newer headset hasn't been out several months, unless you are some lucky beta tester. Also, comfort can definitely be improved. As for video quality, I have done my due diligence and made several videos with various extra info and even video recorded through the lens instead of by the headset to better inform people. I'm not lying to anyone, I just uploaded a cool feature video from my new headset.

[@user-ob5sx2dz8l]

@@bc_labs i have pico 4 that also have pancake linces, that is really shit quality. the clearity is only in center 20 fov, not more, same linces are on quest 3. Your video are made using headset, such video do not show artefacts and blurring text insude vr headset. It shows nothing reall. Thanks to you, bloggers, I bought this shit headset for immersed work in vr, and was very surprised that work in vr is great lie

[@misaelheredia]

@@user-ob5sx2dz8lDude you really don’t know what you are talking about

[@r.m8146]

Even META OS is better thean PCVR at this point.

[@dannyc2261]

I dont care for 4k monitors anyways since my eyes are not good enough

[@FSK1138]

$5 per month for virtual screens ?? WTF

[@bc_labs]

Well someone else mentioned, apparently they are crediting some people a free membership if you use the app so many times a week, but I still don't think that includes the high resolution that only is the two extra screen option. I'd have to confirm that. There is the alternative of paying $30 one time for the extra two screens. You also get the base two extra virtual screens for free regardless of everything else

[@ghosteye007]

I cant believe people would pay 5$ a month for multiple screens what a ripoff. Im going to develop and release a totally free version of something way better than this immersed garbage. Everything on the META app store is so freaking disappointing.

[@bc_labs]

I mean you get three for free, but more power to you if you come up with a better app and release it

[@SSukram_]

Well, they have to pay their devs somehow, and most people don't need more than 3 monitors

[@saiyanfpv5358]

Did you make that app yet?

[@keniride3255]

There are free mets apps for the same I think it's called v spatial

[@TheDaysEnd]

I could be wrong but if you buy the visor and get the founders edition I think it will be permanently free for additional monitors.

[@LeesReviews69]

Video starts at 5:00. You’re welcome

[@sirakzeray4543]

“Not even the VisionPro will come close to your monitors” I mean they 4k on each eye.

[@bc_labs]

Yeah, but before optics. Optics eat into the usable portion of that 4k

[@AleinInDLand]

Please blur your pairing code and delete this comment. That is a unique identifier you will want to keep private.

[@bc_labs]

I figured it might cause so e issues, however, if they can't log in to my account on either end, can they really get in?

[@tinyentropy]

This will all become sooo much easier with the new Apple Vision Pro. This looks so tedious to set up. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@bc_labs]

You just install an app twice? The setup steps took 2-3 mins of the whole video. The rest was just info and features

[@krste3000]

What a dumb thing to say. First of all, you have no idea how the vision will work since all you've seen about the vision is what Apple wants you to see. Second, this is a $500 headset available now, the vision will cost $3000 who knows when. Third, this literally took like 3 minutes to setup, few clicks and a pairing code. Apple drones are the worst.

[@daudhtm5203]

yea only $3500

[@yenneferofvengerberg9588]

Pretty sure that will also have steps to take to set up something similar. it wasnt that tedious lol

[@cakmabuilder]

Can I pull the monitor in front of my eyes and watch videos while lying in bed? Or can I watch a movie while sitting at the sink? Do virtual monitors look clear? Will I have difficulty reading texts while chatting on Discord?

[@bc_labs]

Definitely can do all of those things. The virtual text is super clear. The passthrough cameras are a bit lacking though. Possible to do chores or check your phone but it's not clear enough to truly watch a show on a TV or use your phone extensively while wearing it

[@cakmabuilder]

@@bc_labs Will it be better than the movie I watched on a 24-inch 1080p monitor?

[@slavikshe1310]

Hello. Could this be a solution for those who need 2 monitors on their laptop to create 3d animations? I am concerned about video freezing and image quality

[@bc_labs]

I'm not going to say that there's not occasional video hitches, but they're fairly infrequent it seems especially if you have a good router. Image quality is capped at the 1200P or the resolution of the screen that you physically have, but that's also rendered on a 2K display in each eye if you had a 4k monitor that was filling the screen you actually are losing a lot of fidelity. If you're currently working on like a 1080P or a 2k, it should be somewhat comparable, but the pixels per degree is still worse than a regular monitor. I don't work with 3D animation so I can't speak for how the software works if your PC's under extreme load from a render, though.

[@slavikshe1310]

@@bc_labs Thanks for the reply, in my case, I work with a 2k monitor and a laptop screen. Render is extremely rare for me, usually I have a task with animation or mocap cleanup. As I understand there is no alternative in the form of a cable connection.