I Used Virtual Monitors For a Week!

In this video I try the Augmented Reality functionality of the VR headset Meta Quest Pro. The idea is to see if virtual monitors is something that can replace your physical desktop monitors. How functional is it right now? Do I see a potential future for this technology? Or, is it really just a gimmick to sell you a new device?

[@Hallden_]

Here is my other channel with nature related content: youtube.com/@halldenlogs3445

[@frumpymussel13]

@Endermarchivechhi

[@Leathal]

Tip for future airplane usage: turn off 6dof tracking in settings to avoid the “stuff slides away” issue. Not sure if this breaks Workrooms, but it works great in Immersed and media apps

[@jlmaka]

THIS! It's a feature, not a bug. I'm glad to hear you can turn off the accelerometers for these headsets.

[@theo1231231]

He probably should have researched the headset a bit more before making the video - it was still entertaining though

[@TPPreview]

Can you use virtual monitors on the quest 2, quest 3

[@Keyakina]

@@TPPreview yes

[@TPPreview]

@@Keyakina which one quest 2 or 3

[@keith-is-mad]

I don't have the quest pro, but after working with virtual monitors on Quest 2 I have to say - the connectivity issue is most likely your laptop's wifi limitation and not the headset. Try a dedicated wifi6 router (one that won't thermo-throttle on the constant load). It kinda defeats the portability theme a bit, but that was the only way that worked for me.

[@HopperNation]

Yes it has been demonstrated that most laptop wireless connectivity struggles with things like this, I agree that a wifi 6e antenna would fix or mostly mitigate the issue

[@dbhrgdb3638]

It's not connectivity, it's a GPS tracking issue. I'll tell you, if you have a 5G connection there is no problem and things are @ 2K/4k with my PC. But GPS Tracking kills the experience.

[@vrstary]

Hopefully soon they will make a newer VR air bridge for the quest pro. Sadly the current one only works with the quest 2 as of yet.

[@426wookie]

sometimes it helps to put a little fan if your wifi router is weak and it'll throttle a lot less

[@sunshinevendetta]

Agree on this, also using a cable connection improves everything a lot

[@vdchnsk]

It's such a joy to observe how significantly the quality of filming was improved! Great job, Kalle!

[@SmugSpirit]

Best of luck Valerii hope everythings going well for you!

[@Hallden_]

So I want to thank you for watching this video! This is by far the video I’ve put the most amount of effort and money into ever! This was a really big project and took me a long time to complete. This is how I will approach all videos on this channel going forward. My focus will be to make the best videos I could possibly make, and this one is the start. I genuinely hope you enjoyed this video! Also this video is not sponsored by meta or anyone. Do not buy this device! At least that’s my advice

[@sparkygozie9401]

Thanks for being honest❤💯. I always look forward to your videos.

[@enz1]

very great video! looking forward to a lot more

[@MarriedWithBackpacks]

This was the only feature of the headset that sparked my interest. Great video! Now I know it sucks :)

[@EricCHuang]

Thanks you for sharing your honest opinions on the realistic and practical perspectives! I've also noticed that your Samsung laptop is running Ventura. What is the model of your laptop? 😃😃

[@ishanchoudhary4555]

Kalle cancelling Meta 👀

[@yamch]

i love how boris becker was so honest with his review

[@Hallden_]

Hey!

[@erproerpro903]

Lol😂

[@DigitalContentNetwork]

He seems younger after j-time.

[@petermarin]

Who’s Boris?

[@50_Pence]

He's on the lamb doing tube vids for extra chedz

[@1eddy967]

I actually came back to your channel the other day because I noticed that you hadn't posted any video in quite some time. It's cool to see you back, with a hugely different level of production! The screen "holographic" effect was really cool! Also, as a fellow dev, I've also thought of this exact feature and hoped it would be better. It's nice to see another video in my feed, keep the videos coming!

[@DJRanoia]

Same I thought maybe he moved on to a new project!

[@nakularora9319]

I really liked the editing that hovering and moving the screen

[@ChadLawson3]

I didn’t catch on to the Barney Stinson “Playbook” theme until the “Couch Surfer” and then I giggled like crazy. Thank you for this video!

[@CodeWithBehram7497]

Iam watching your videos from almost 2 years and love each and every video from your channel your coding methods your setup is so decent. I got so much motivation from your coding challenges. I never got board watching your videos Great content, decent editing Keep it up❤

[@Hallden_]

That really means a lot man, I really appreciate that you took the time to comment but also the amount of time you’ve spent watching my videos! Thank you!

[@msbanda2123]

Yeah. Really motivating . .

[@Thomas.Saunders]

This is the first of your videos that I've watched so far. Probably the most complete 'real world' review of VR headset I've seen to date. I'm fascinated by VR/AR technology and I enjoy following the evolution of the space. Personally, I have vision problems which limit what I could get out of the experience, but I enjoy watching the continuing progress. Thanks for a thoughtful and entertaining video.

[@kirbyclem4]

I'm on month 2 working solely from my Quest Pro. Honestly, it has been amazing, to say the least. Immersed is awesome! However, I play games on Virtual Desktop. I even go as far as to leave my laptop at home, on and connected to the internet, and bring only my headset, Bluetooth mouse & keyboard, to the office. Works extremely well.

[@Alternatywny_1]

Do you have any issues with using like author of this video? I'm asking because I want save some money and buy Quest 1/2 to improve my coding and unreal engine experience 😄

[@kirbyclem4]

@@Alternatywny_1 ​Having owned both I would highly suggest the Pro, I have not had any connectivity issues as mentioned in the video. 1st - the quality of image is much better on the Pro, allowing me to work exclusively from the headset for long periods of time, especially with having to read small text without having to zoom in. 2nd - The connection to my remote computer seems to be much stronger on the Pro, even when connecting via hotspot while away from my computer. My setup in office is my 17-inch laptop with the headset using the Immersed app ( with wifi direct turned on allowing me to remote directly to my computer for better connection). When traveling or away from the office I use the VSpatial app to remote access my laptop while using a Bluetooth mouse & keyboard. I almost always use both Immersed & VSpatial in pass-through mode so I can be aware/ interact with my surroundings. I purchased the headset when it was $1,499 & still think it has been an awesome investment.

[@immeatom]

I’m so glad to have caught this video early. I think fair points were made. Keep in mind this headset will improve with each update. The Quest 2 is simply not the same headset it was when it was first released. Each update has brought new features, added stability, and even UI updates. We can expect the same for the Meta quest pro. I’d be interested in seeing a long term review after 6 months.

[@bawbsmith]

There’ll be improvements to software, but I don’t think the 6 month review will be much better. The hardware is simply not good enough. Screen resolution is not enough for a monitor replacement, the cameras are not good enough for AR, and while this use case doesn’t really require it, the battery life is too low. They can compensate some of this through optimization, but I think the Quest Pro just isn’t there yet. Maybe the quest Pro 2.

[@Leathal]

Boz is on record saying he wasn’t sure if they had enough spare CPU cycles to globally enable local dimming support - a literal keynote feature. The Pro is six pounds of sht in a five pound bag so don’t expect a Quest 2 style “glow up”

[@dooks123]

Please do exactly the same set of tests next year once you can get a hold of the Apple Vision Pro headset.

[@soberanisfam1323]

$3499

[@dooks123]

@@soberanisfam1323 ***from $3499 (might go up even)

[@Simkets]

The fact that Quest 3 has 2x better, sharper and clearer pass through for only a fraction of the cost is astounding.

[@michialharris1850]

I believe quest 3 would have costed more if it wasn’t for apples 3500 price of their be headset coming out. Apple helped us get a cheap headset because the quest 3 is way better then the pro

[@Jais271]

Less cameras

[@GirlOnAQuest]

Apples headset is in a class of its own. It wont affect meta decision on price for the general public. @@michialharris1850

[@OfficiallyArtificiallyInformed]

​@michialharris1850 that makes no sense. They can't have a ridiculous increase from the 2. Also to reach the masses you can't charge thousands. You're not going to meet many people with the apple headset. Not many even have 3.5k to throw on a device

[@goodvibesbeats2221]

@@michialharris1850 honestly other than maybe less quality, it absolutely rocks. My Quest 3 has been fun as shit to use.

[@PeterLindgren1]

My guy bringing the fire!

[@richgodusen2303]

Wow! This one was in the end worth the wait. I kept checking your channel for uploads from time to time. The VR headset Meta Quest Pro is mindblowing. Great content! I never even knew a workspace could be this portable.

[@pondracek]

Latency and refresh is a solved issue (see VirtualDesktop). I do wish that Workrooms or Immersed whatever app is on the quest pro would treat your focussed screen like VirtualDesktop and keep the others bandwidth-limited, allowing you to configure options for changing focus by looking (head tracking or eye tracking now) or mouse pointer. I also actually think the nReal Air might be better for this purpose long term. I've had a good time with the nebula landing page and Samsung Dex, I just wish I could do 3 Dex screens side by side inside nebula and then I'd be onboard.

[@attilapeter1588]

It's very good to see you in "action" again. I like your videos since your first big "a day of software developer" 3-4 years ago. It was a little bit hard to survive without your videos but iam very excited to see your new videos :).

[@iGhostr]

Atesz Peti

[@tangoshotz9538]

"Crippling social anxiety", mate the nerve it took to do that in a cafe. Most people wouldn't dare. That was hilarious. Great video

[@TobiPlayHD]

This is your best video so far, for me at least. Superb editing, extremely entertaining all throughout and pretty creative with the challenges and Bear Grylls intro to the tram! Amazing content.

[@mrRapkis]

It's kind of weird to see you use a Windows laptop and show MacOS visuals on the Meta Quest Pro. I guess that was just for B roll? Either way - awesome video! One of the best I've recently seen from you: creative, informative and fun

[@kiriakoskartsagkoul798]

i really liked the how i met your mother reference and I'm glad to see you uploading again

[@vve1l]

Hey, I just got this video recommended and realized I knew your channel from 2-3 years ago. I'll be back for the next videos and wanted to let you know I really enjoyed this one!

[@shmee_vybe]

That backdoor Yahoo cut was TOO funny though!😂😂😂

[@tehvvisard]

I myself have been running a VR desktop for 2 years now and could not be happier. Using XrDesktop on Pop!_OS you get a better granular control over the windows inside VR. Been using this environment to code, game and watch movies. The only problem is that it scrapes the window on the screen so you need a good resolution for it to be clear text. Great video showcasing the possible future of home office

[@frenches1995]

the imitation of Barney Stinsons playbook is just awesomely done!

[@the_yogeshk]

More than commenting on the product, can we take a time to Appreciate his editing, the edits on him showing us the product is really impressive, great video!

[@thedirtbob4332]

The HIMYM sequence is awesome! I've loved it. !!! Keep up the good work !!!

[@shafinnahian75]

Honestly, the world would be 100x better if all reviews were as thoroughly done as this. Also, we almost have the same profile picture, Mr. Hallden xD

[@xbloodkiss.]

homie really did a "barney's playbook" gag, and I'm 110% here for it

[@charlesconstant725]

Smashed it out of the park with this one @Hallden_ . Love your revamped style with the little "acting" bits- made me laugh out loud at least twice. Can't wait for more of these!

[@thegmanpaints]

1:50 the impression instantly earned you a subscriber lmao

[@the1andonlycw]

I had to stop watching and come here and comment on how awesome the narration is. It's hilarious and reminds me of one of those documentaries. Great job! Now back to the show.

[@andreaszetterstrom7418]

If one were really serious about say programming in a headset like this, I imagine it could work with a setup like this: * Locally running editor (maybe based on VS Code) * Locally connected mouse and keyboard (having the keyboard tracked and visible in VR would be a bonus) * Locally running web browser * Remote build server that runs any heavy compilation or processing.

[@josebriceno4983]

For the connectivity issue, try using a thunderbolt cable to connect the headset and Mac. Also I’ve noticed that sharing internet from your Mac and using that networking on the oculus improves latency. Hope that helps!

[@manaceschavez7165]

It looks like he's using a Hackintosh, it didn't look like a true Mac. This could also be an issue

[@francoendrigo9388]

what you could do in unstable environments is to stop tracking, then it should (hypothetically) not change the view. I guess you can do that by getting the developer mode on.

[@torstonvodesil6709]

Your cinema photography is amazing

[@aldrine.tolentino]

H: Commuting to work here forces you to push yourself hard and further than anywhere else. Manila: Finally, a worthy opponent.

[@jwh335]

Best video I’ve seen of the Quest Pro yet. Very helpful.

[@aj35lightning]

this was epic, ive been wondering these things for a while, thanks for going that extra mile to try this all out and document it for us

[@shubhashissaha]

I really love that it doesn't have an outro with blazing music to make me quickly close the video at the end.

[@QuantumVLOG]

When I've worked from home, I often use my Quest 2 and sit on my Sofa in my office and work from there rather than at my PC. The Virtual Desktop app is very useful for working, I've taken teams calls through the headset and then when its quiet, jump into a quick game. Having an external battery back solution, or being stationary and on charge is essential for getting a days worth of work in though, otherwise you're on for 3 hours max.

[@pxl-tech]

I really like the HIMYM playbook sections xD Awesome video btw :)!

[@JoeSrebernak]

You can lock the orientation. I think this would help when using on a flight.

[@austinwheeler6234]

Great video. This is the application of VR/AR that I'm most excited about. I think it would be nice to have a portable setup that didn't involve bending my neck to look down at a laptop screen. I was wondering why you didn't try Nreal glasses for this test, as those would probably be workable while moving, and are sharper, which is better for simulating monitors.

[@Sushilkumar92]

My boy just bought 3 seats, just to film this video, you not only deserve a sub but a bow

[@Amdesew]

Finally you have uploaded man I been waiting for your videos I really enjoyed your video. Great Content Keep It Up.

[@jakemeyer8188]

I gotta be honest, I'm pretty sure a KZbinr creating content in the seat behind me while I'm on a flight sounds like it could take the top spot on my list of worst nightmares...

[@Jmdee]

I am using Immersed + Quest 2 rn to watch & write this (been working "goggled in" for a while now). I do 3d sculpting, modeling etc as well as general browser based work. Tips: 1. if latency is an issue just use a usb cable. It's not too much of a hassle and I am getting 1ms response...it's truly unnoticeable. It also keeps your headset charged! 2. As others have said, turn off headset tracking in settings > system > headset tracking to avoid the screens moving while on the tram/plane.

[@kebman]

I'm so glad you did the hacking while wearing a hoodie, otherwise it would be completely inauthentic. I would ofc prefer the Guy Fawkes mask, but you just can't have it all.

[@eastmanwebb5477]

Video production quality is exceptional. I enjoyed watching this. I look forward to your future videos.

[@AlanRebane]

Thanks, Kalle for a great and unbiased video! I enjoyed every minute of it. ❤ For me it’s also important to work with multiple monitors while on the go. One great remote work setup is the one by nomad setups 😁

[@WillakeMattis]

Exactly today's morning i was checking if you are alive or what :D Welcome back!

[@Hallden_]

Haha awesome! And thank you!

[@MightyDantheman]

I think the true future of AR will be glasses, contact lenses, and eventually full eye implants.

[@alexandergranados1718]

I just put it on developer mode and sideloaded some android productivity apps like word, excel, outlook, one drive (google apps not working), spotify, disney plus, vlc, twitter and I use the meta browser for the rest. This setup works way better than the one you tried. You can even use 3 android apps at the same time.

[@TerraMagnus]

I spend a lot of my work time collaborating in meetings, on Google Meet. I’ve been working from inside VR for years and honestly if you think you look like a dork in a cafe with your headset on, try showing up in a business meeting looking like one of Meta’s cartoon characters. I still use my Quest Pro from time to time, but for so many reasons I’m going to be among the first in line to replace it with Apple’s Vision Pro.

[@diegosaal1]

Hi guys, I recently got the Meta Quest 3 and, using a good connection, this thing flies. Even with a laptop with an Iris XE graphics card and 16gb LPDDR5. So far, with 3 extra large screens using Immersed, it feels great. The passtrough has improved amazingly, and the pancake lenses combined with the 2 dedicated 2k screens (one for each eye) and the IPD adjustment makes it as comfortable as it could be. I'm using the free version (I believe I don't need the 4 USD subscription yet) and Internet in Argentina sucks regarding to speed and reliability. So I don't think I could leave my laptop home yet and just carry the headset and bluetooth keyboard/mouse. But you could, with the Immersed Pro subscription, having up to 5 4K screens floating arround and remote connection over internet. Still testing it in a coworking office to see how it "socially works". I guess I'll let you know... Greating from Argentina :)

[@thomasgurchiek3301]

Need to put some googly eye on the front :D Joking aside, I think eventually laptops will be replaced with cloud computing (VDI) with the use of AR/VR glasses. The only thing that will be needed is a keyboard. Oh and I hope we bring back the Power Glove I think that would be really cool lol!

[@craigharkins4669]

I like how you mentioned you had little space in front of you. Almost like your imply to the guy in front to put his seat forward.

[@donny1546]

I've been dreaming about AR monitors like this for years but it seems I'll have to hold out for a few more. Thanks for your video!

[@TheCEODon]

Lag is diminished when using wired to PC for laptop directly I work in VR typing and coding and web development and have been for months. Absolutely Love it

[@littellgamer]

I do agree that it looks a bit weird looking at someone using vr in a café and whatnot, but I believe that in a new future it will become more and more common to see people using those around.

[@tolu619]

Bro! You bought 4 plane tickets just to test and film this properly!? Now that's dedication!

[@rishabhpatted6187]

The device is actually performing as intended. The screens are fixed in space and not fixed relative to your headset. If they were fixed relative to your headset would move with you every time you turn your head.

[@RobertMcCalle]

I use my quest 2 virtual triple screen working on stocks.. eyes are tired. But the quality of privacy while focusing on own working space is the best that I can experience.

[@husseineltarras7526]

as a how i met your mother fan, i approve your playbook references

[@diego271088]

This guy took a page from the playbook for that last part. Legendary

[@ianselley2725]

Love the reference to the bro code from How I Met Your Mother😂😂

[@guyincognito1985]

Loved this review!!! You saved me a ton of money on trying these out. I would definitely like to carry around 3 screens with me in a pair of AR glassed, but the technology has to get better. Your video editing skills have become top-notch! Hope you publish more videos (on ANYTHING/any subject) in 2023. You weave a good yarn.

[@kyedav]

One issue using it inside a cafe or somewhere public is not being able to properly see your surroundings. In the UK, you'd have a high chance of your laptop or something being stolen right from under you. (Obviously also depends on the area you live) The fact the virtual displays covers up most of your vision (even in passthrough mode) would lead you to becoming an easy target. Obviously without VR you'd still have a chance of being mugged.. But a WAY higher chance when your eyes are covered and you can't notice someone running at you in your POV wearing a balaclava.

[@TechWithBabak]

Interesting insight that the turning of the train car messes with the motion sensors in the VR headset!

[@appleman2590]

If couch surfer was a reference to himym - then you’re just a legend

[@nikhilanandpandit8644]

Hey Lorenzo Von Matterhorn This video was legendary

[@AstonJay]

Hehehe, the Bear Grylls intro was great!😂

[@non_existant001]

It's good to have you back!

[@TomerTalmor]

The HIMYM playbook references are amazing lmao 🤣

[@charlievibin9076]

as someone who uses vr a lot for nearly anything you need these certain things for the best experience and to reduce your from breaking it Make sure you don't get sunlight to hit your headset as it destroys your headset what can give you dead pixels that are not possible to get rid of or camera damage use your room light as the headset needs lighting to actually track Get a different face cover or head strap for the best and most comfortable experience

[@sid.h]

I think it would be pretty easy to eliminate the unwanted turning while working in a vehicle, either by the developers or via third-party plugins. Since the headset already has a camera, you would simply need to determine one or more reference points in your environment either manually or automagically to determine wether the turning is initiated by the user or not.

[@Thezuule1]

The conflict between the sensors and the cameras trying to do that is what is causing the problem. I'm pretty sure you can just shut off the headset tracking in those situations and use it as a 3dof device. I've done that in the car with my Quest 2. If you leave the tracking on whenever the car turns and stuff it messes everything up.

[@sid.h]

@@Thezuule1 I see! I didn't know they were already using the cameras for orientation. In that case, there are definitely some quirks that need ironing out! To be fair, the developers might not have considered the use case of using the device in a moving vehicle.

[@001PROXIM]

Ive been waiting for the next video for a while now and gotta say that this exceeded all my expectations. One of the best videos you’ve ever made. Keep up the great work!

[@krafte]

Hey Calle. Thank you for all the effort you put into this project. Maybe you want to give the "work from vr" topic another try by using a app called immersed to connect your MQP to your Mac. The software has a great community that's always helpful about getting the best results from your setup. I use immersed with the MQ2 since nearly 1.5 years and I never want to go back to a traditional setup. True, there are some tradeoffs and I am surely kind of biased 'cause I'm loving new tech but you can absolutely squeeze some more usability out of the MQP with the right tools and techniques if you want to. Again, thank you very much for for all the great videos and content you deliver to us.

[@orospakr]

Honestly virtual monitor is the only VR application I could sort of be interested in. Big portable screen space, all without the need to strain the neck by staring downwards. Perhaps I am asking for the proverbial faster horse, but we'll see. However, the dystopian hell of being cut off from the real world is real.

[@brianc3271]

I love the Barney Stinson playbook style tribute in here. HIMYM fans notice.

[@sidney_433]

This is a high quality video. Glad you're back, Kalle.

[@DavidCosta85]

thank you for trying those scenarios for me. don't want to seem crazy. but the idea of having 3 virtual screens in front of you anywhere is a good idea. imagine a person in a car as a passenger to have 3 screens in front of their eyes.

[@DanielMaixner]

Unexpected himym references! Love it

[@rbarbe1]

Thanks for buying 4 seats on a plane to get us this info.

[@HowardCodes]

People generally like VR for immersion and gaming. But they like AR for productivity, or at least that's what I've seen from my anecdotal experience. The future truly lies in both and the company that can fully satisfy both demands will be the true winner in the VR market.

[@xenfin]

This was the exact use case and review I have been looking for.

[@vanvanni_nl]

I could see it work really while if there is a "Work mode" so screen do not move base of position. So they just stick in front of you and you take a NUC with battery for on the go. Its now really in development for gaming so I wouldnt see it coming to working if gaming improves even more

[@loganki5zyw]

great video. love the honesty. AI is so much to play around with, but not practical yet. I love the sound and music effects that you added to the video. i personally prefer the reviewing type of video where a person explores the idea instead of your normal vlog. anyway thanks for the video

[@adamleavy1531]

Got to give you a like for the dedication of buying 3 seats on a plane to test this.

[@aakashjana6225]

First ! its a blast from the past for me to watch kalle's videos once again ! I wanted to mention that theres a hobby out there called FPV where you gotta where similar kinda goggles only that you control a drone which flies really fast and makes people super nauseous minus the huge noise and attraction the flying drone and a cyborg looking human being standing somewhere and flying it . But I must mention since someone like me did overcome those sort of motion sickness and fear from the lack of situational awareness I could totally look forward to use this instead of a physical monitor provided it supports a mouse , in which case its super cool .

[@alipetuniashow]

I really love your approach in terms of quality over quantity, which is something I want to follow in the future.

[@theencryptedpartition4633]

Today I was like damn, where did he go? Welcome back

[@Hallden_]

Wow nice timing! Thank you!

[@theencryptedpartition4633]

@@Hallden_ and welcome back long hair

[@bricecarpentier5817]

I see somebody loved that HIMYM episode as much as I did :D

[@rodrigoborges8171]

Great production value on this video. Congratulations! Were you inspired by How I Met Your Mother's Barney's playbook? :) Looking forward to seeing what Apple will bring as well.

[@tristonarmstrong4617]

Its interesting you're having connectivity issues.. I work in VR every single day USUALLY for a full work day (software engineer).. I do use Immersed tho, not workrooms. But even when i used workrooms it was very snappy.. I haven't used it in a few weeks so maybe they've had an update since then that trashed things but idk.. Ill check it out today.. If you try out Immersed theres a wifi direct option which creates a direct link between your computer and the headset and the latency is unnoticeable. Maybe give that a try.

[@VRARInsider]

This.

[@siro8472]

i think you will one day experience health consequences from having all the radiation directly at the head.

[@Later_Nerd]

One thing they nailed is the design. They look really nice and professional given where the tech is at in It's current state.

[@sambennett6421]

I love your how i met your mother reference with Barney!!!

[@g43s]

it should have a usb c port to connect to laptops, I like this tech bc this is how we get real life holograms I also can't wait to see shared augmented reality in the future.