Immersed | The BEST Quest 3 Workspace?

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The Construct

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Күн бұрын

In this video I take a look at the Virtual and Mixed reality workspace app Immersed. I was turned away from this app at first but upon giving it another look I must say, I'm EXTREMELY impressed. It has a lot to offer, sit back and have a look with me. If you have a Quest 3, Apple Vision Pro, or are looking forward to Immersed Team's Visor, then you need to see this. Using. your quest for work is still a bit nuanced but if if you have a group or a team that's willing to trail blaze and try out these features, it only helps shape what tomorrow will look like.
As always. Thanks for watching!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Let's Go!
00:25 - Connects to PC, Mac and Linux
01:06 - Paywall for 5 Windows!?!?
01:25 - Gamification of Pro Subscription
02:12: - One Major CON to these types of apps
03:00 - Resolution options
03:30 - Working with 5 screens on Mac
05:38 - PORTALS!!!
06:56 - Passthrough Mode
07:27 - Floating Windows
08:20 - Public Work Rooms
10:18 - Earn Credits for more features
11:11 - Better than Workrooms?

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@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
This is the last of a series of Workspace demos/walkthroughs. I really want to vibe with yall about gaming and entertainment too! As always thanks for watching!!! Can you tell what changed from the beginning of the video to the end? What can I say you all were right! Don't forget to like and subscribe A few things: Yes there is an option of using a Whiteboard but I didn't capture that. My bad. I couldn't get the webcam to work but it works the same as Horizon Workrooms, others will see your cartoon avatar. I couldn't show you telepresence but people in the same room with headsets can work together. EPIC!!!
@darrenbermingham
@darrenbermingham 2 ай бұрын
Great video. You'r tone to camera is great. Down to earth coverage. Subbed. I've tried a lot and this is by far the most flexible and reliable virtual workspace I've used.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome to The Construct!
@krsnry
@krsnry 2 ай бұрын
Teams Meeting with the virtual Webcam in Immersed is amazing and flawless.. So much fun to use..
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
I could not get my web cam to work!!! I have to look into this
@nij2k
@nij2k 2 ай бұрын
Great video dude, been using this for a few weeks and loving it, only just discovered the other day that you can connect your phone aswell 😁
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Yeah! I saw the option to download the phone app after I had completed this video!! Hahah I had to just ship it with regrets lol
@thomasthemarstrain2141
@thomasthemarstrain2141 Ай бұрын
You do a great job reviewing!
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad the reviews are helpful!
@blueblackskullgaming2067
@blueblackskullgaming2067 2 ай бұрын
Just getting into VR. Have been doing mostly gaming, but would like to get into the workspace stuff. Your videos have been amazing and I’m subbed
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I’m a gamer too. The launch of the AVP got me on the productivity stuff for sure. You’ll find both on the channel. Welcome to the Construct 👊🏽
@iainprendergast8311
@iainprendergast8311 6 күн бұрын
Brilliant Thank you!
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 6 күн бұрын
Happy to hear it helped!!
@B-Ware321
@B-Ware321 2 ай бұрын
I use a portal behind my head. It allows a passthrough mode almost like the game. Furthermore, it allows me to look behind when someone knocks at my door, without having to go to full mixed reality. At first, it was just a rectangle window, but I turned it into a 3D orb direclty behind me because sticking your head through it is so much cooler. 😂
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
😂 love it!
@racky2
@racky2 Ай бұрын
Wow, smart!
@ja34710
@ja34710 2 ай бұрын
Thank You Morpheus 👍
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
😎
@MelissaAtwell
@MelissaAtwell 2 ай бұрын
Another great video! (For the life of me, I cannot find what changed from the beginning of the video to the end though! Gah! 😅😂) I think that each of these workspace apps have their own uses, and can become part of our daily work lives depending on what we need. Thanks so much for creating this video. Looking forward to the future with entertainment stuff!
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
I’ll see if anyone else tries and I’ll tell you. Hahah it’s silly and super subtle. Thanks for watching … I’m excited to make some less serious content.. the quest 3 can be so much fun!
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
So I filmed the outro much later that day. So I had cut my hair. You can see at the beginning I had a mean 5 o’clock shadow and the hair on my head was all scrappy from wearing my headset. At the end I’ve shaved and cut my hair 😅 I’m actually glad I was overthinking it
@MelissaAtwell
@MelissaAtwell 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR Whoa, you know I was suspecting something about your hair… but then I would check again and was like, “nahhhhhh, it couldn’t be that”, so I’m like, checking the background in your room, and the microphone you’re wearing 🤪 Nicely done!
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@MelissaAtwell hahaha. 🤜🤛
@lamaking5956
@lamaking5956 2 ай бұрын
Luv the vids 💯💯
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! 🤜🤛
@alessandrocernuzzi
@alessandrocernuzzi 23 күн бұрын
Really cool. Something I haven't tried is to use the Quest 3 to work in Blender and UE, this might be the solution to try that. Great vid, love your style 🖤
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! And yes I agree there’s still much need to see the screens of your more powerful machine. Not even the AVP has figured out how to run everything on the headset.
@mdsf01
@mdsf01 2 ай бұрын
Great vid! Not a fan of the gamification to keep functionality but love the the portals functionality.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I hear u. I think this was the only move they could make without upsetting the subscription haters. This at least gives you an option and makes you consider if you seriously want to use the app either with your time or your wallet. I feel like in the age of “free” apps using your data as currency it’s hard to go back to any cost model without upsetting users. Portals are a blast though. Hybrid mixed reality /vr I’m totally here for it!
@OgdenM
@OgdenM 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR, the issue with a productivity app like this though is that are they collecting ALL of your data? ergo, any data that is displaced in the workspace in windows? If so, there are huge privacy concerns.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@OgdenM yeah. I wouldn’t work on anything I wouldn’t mind passing through these servers. I get that but not everyone does.
@thebeatles9
@thebeatles9 Ай бұрын
great video bro
@guyhelps
@guyhelps 28 күн бұрын
I think my main thing is the quest 3 regular straps hurts after like an hour... how are you using your quest even with the adjusted headstrap ? You think the visor immerse is coming out going to help with weight?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 28 күн бұрын
I think the regular strap is just uncomfortable for EVERYTHING. Including gaming. Other straps like halo straps or how the quest pro was built will provide much more comfort for working. Check out this part of the latest video here on the channel, see what the team at Fluid did to adjust for comfort.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIOVqmqbgqaYlassi=UxYtWJUBVIQUcKTx&t=776 But yes, Lighter weight headsets like the Visor will be 100% necessary if this ever becomes a normal way of working.
@B-Ware321
@B-Ware321 2 ай бұрын
I use my blutooth keyboard/mouse that's directly connected to the headset when in Immersed. Sometimes it's finicky, but I've never had it be such a big issue that I needed to use my dedicated pc keyboard.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
I’ll have to go back! I could not get this to work at all. I assumed it was like Workrooms. I kind of got the mouse to work but it’s like an overlay of the controller pointer passing through to the desktop. I didn’t like it at all. Thanks for the tip
@MrUltraVic
@MrUltraVic 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR It does work, But not well. I usually use the headset with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse but they are connected wirelessly to the pc. I think that is the best result you can get for now.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@MrUltraVic got ya! Yeah that’s what I do. I was spoiled by virtual desktop because it basically passes the input device to the machine you’re controlling… this needs to become standard now!
@B-Ware321
@B-Ware321 2 ай бұрын
@MrUltraVic yes. Eventually I will get one that's wireless to the pc. Just not a priority at the moment. Too busy buying other stuff for my Quest. 🤣
@chrisdavis5658
@chrisdavis5658 2 ай бұрын
Handy Menu...haha. Great video, great pun. subscribed.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Hahah. We can’t take ourselves too seriously right?!? Welcome to The Construct 👊🏽
@GirlGeekLovesStampin
@GirlGeekLovesStampin Ай бұрын
I would like to create a reoccurring event somewhere. So, I'm investigating options. Do you think I could invite other people to meet up with me on some reoccurring way (example weekly games)?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
This is going on ALL THE TIME in Horizon Worlds or do you mean in real life? Horizon has people who have game night meetups and all sorts of things. You just have to set the time and “place”
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
Also.. if you wanted to do it in immersed it’s the same just set up a room for them to join but you would communicate as usual like with google calendar
@TacticalTypos
@TacticalTypos 2 ай бұрын
Immersed is pretty great! I haven't been able to get the multiple virtual displays to work on Linux yet, but I'm excited for when it does work 😅
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah we can't let them forget Linux! Honestly man the multi screens are nice but I haven't really worked on anything that extensive to where i NEED them, I'm usually throwing up a youtube video or something on the other monitors.
@TacticalTypos
@TacticalTypos 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR Yeah. It sounds pretty tame, but I'm mostly just excited to eventually load up my PDF of Python Crash Course on a monitor to the left of my main screen, where I'll work through the book. I like the idea of more ergonomically positioning my "books" and referring to them as I do my digital stuff on my laptop (without a physical external monitor).
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@TacticalTypos yeah coding will increase the need for more screens for sure
@OgdenM
@OgdenM 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR, really? You don't have different apps open at the same time and have to switch between them? If so, I'd just make a screen for each one. Just like what people with multiple RL monitors do.
@OgdenM
@OgdenM 2 ай бұрын
@@TacticalTypos, kinda same here but for research projects. I can get super deep with them, multiple windows and tabs and having to switch between windows is annoying. Having multiple IRL monitors would be better but... eeeh. I like sitting on the couch while I work. Keyboard in my lap and mouse beside me.
@BurakTurgut07
@BurakTurgut07 2 ай бұрын
Can you please compare for Immersed, BigScreen, SkyVR and Virctual Desktop. Thank you
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Will work that into the movie viewing experience. Immersed kind of falls out of the lineup! But I’ll work that into it!
@exodous02
@exodous02 Ай бұрын
Used to use this with quest 2 and it was giving me a headache. The quest, not immersed. I just ordered a quest 3 and I'll give this another shot!
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
You have to invest in a good 3rd party head strap. And the lenses are SO much clearer on the quest 3. Check out the headstap in the kiwi design video here on the channel. You’ll need the extra battery life for immersed. And the Bobo VR m3 or s3 are super comfortable too. Thanks for watching👊🏽
@poli2730
@poli2730 Ай бұрын
do I need to buy the meta link in order to use immersed with my pc?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
No it works wirelessly. Try that first then if you feel you need more performance or less battery drain go for the cable method
@idontwantn
@idontwantn 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! What about a video on Bigscreen VR Next?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s time to talk about entertainment for sure!
@pithikoulis
@pithikoulis Ай бұрын
Could you make a review after working a full day from this?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
Sure! I have a battery head strap I’m reviewing I may work it into that video or do a short . I can already tell you that comfort is an issue.
@OverbiteGames
@OverbiteGames 2 ай бұрын
Btw performance issues != lag, it's actually battery. In a 3d env w/ 3 monitors my Q3 drains 4% a minute lol.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
I’m always using some additional battery source. But yeah on all of these spatial computing apps I notice pretty quick drain to be honest
@OgdenM
@OgdenM 2 ай бұрын
can you use the Q3 while it's plugged in and charging? I'd be sitting down so I don't care about a cord.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@OgdenM yes! Actually there is a USB direct mode too that improves the performance. Not sure if that mode charges at the same time.
@robertaraujo8268
@robertaraujo8268 2 ай бұрын
same here. I can't using immersed as I would like because of the battery. Just setting up the workstation and almost 10% of my battery go away. It's such an awesome app, but I only get max 30~40 minutes on immersed before to have to charge the Q3. Tried to use USB connection, but I didn't see a progress. Still drain my battery too fast
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@robertaraujo8268 did you use USB connect in immersed or actually plugged in to power? Plugged into power I don’t have issues. But I haven’t gone more than 2 hours. I don’t work that long even outside of VR, not one sitting anyway.
@SamuelProcopio
@SamuelProcopio Ай бұрын
Hi, do you know any web browser I can use as VR? Not needing to connect to a pc?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
The quest browser works, but it depends on what type of vr web application you’re trying to access. Are you trying to see videos in vr or use web based vr apps?
@SamuelProcopio
@SamuelProcopio Ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR hello, I mean a Web Browser that simulate a Theater, like on BigScreen or Virtual Desktop, but we need to connect to a pc to see it
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
@@SamuelProcopio ah. You would need some web app to give you an environment like bigscreen or something. But bigscreen doesn’t need a PC, you can store files locally on your headset or stream directly to it.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
If you’re looking for streaming let’s say Netflix or some other service in a theater setting then I would recommend Fluid. Look for it in app lab. It’s completely browser based
@SamuelProcopio
@SamuelProcopio Ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR yes, I use BigScreen, but we can't use website
@affiliatepowersource3955
@affiliatepowersource3955 2 ай бұрын
Bro, can I follow you in horizon worlds? I'm working with some cool cats into scripting and world building. They're big time. The VR space is a lot easier to network than anything I've ever experienced before. Do you have any worlds built out there in horizon worlds?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Hey I haven’t gotten into building. I am a software engineer by trade though so that sounds interesting I’m on Meta as @TheConstructVR
@affiliatepowersource3955
@affiliatepowersource3955 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR Bet Jason Bro. Follow back then we can hit one another up whenever we're in horizon worlds. Big plans ahead. See you there?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@affiliatepowersource3955 right on. Yep see you in the Metaverse
@pimisi
@pimisi 2 ай бұрын
If a third party app can achieve this on the quest, I wonder why Apple decided not to do this in their bundled feature even though they claim the Vision Pro is powerful enough on processing power and “pro” user really want this cos that how they work.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yes! I wondered the same. Honestly I think we got an over priced, over engineered dev kit with the Apple Vision Pro. It’s amazing and it can CERTAINLY do this with all that tech packed into the headset but they’re polishing it after release. Immersed is available for Apple Vision Pro too so perhaps there’s no rush. But I’m fine with this experience at $3000 less for sure. 😁
@ct1freak
@ct1freak 2 ай бұрын
I wish i could get it towork with my s23 for photography
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Hmm I guess the only way that would work is to get Linux running on it… but then you wouldn’t have the apps that run on android. There’s no mobile streamer for android.
@ct1freak
@ct1freak 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheConstruct_VRWhen I initially set it up it actually did work and displayed the phone for about 20 seconds before the app crashed on the quest. After that it wouldn't connect anymore
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@ct1freak interesting I wonder if where the bottleneck is… the network capability of the phone or the app on the quest 🤔 What type of photography work do you do on the S23?
@ct1freak
@ct1freak 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR idk but Inwosh I could figure it out. Been doing light painting and astrophotography and wanted to be able to remotely view it while tracing images in vr
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@ct1freak yeah totally lame it stopped working. I was able to get my iPhone to work but it’s only mirroring my phone screen inside immersed… I’m not sure what could be the problem with the android app.
@juanconde9323
@juanconde9323 2 ай бұрын
The problem with the mouse is because you must desactivate the option that mouse touch on settings of the app on visor
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!! I figured it out eventually. I still prefer how the mouse behaves natively rather than through immersed.
@juanconde9323
@juanconde9323 2 ай бұрын
Me too! I think same, but really really i would lo ve that we can upload our own enriromenets from blender, with that the people said??? Virtual what?? Horizon what???
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a solid app. Custom environments will likely come. We have to be happy with 360 photos for now. Thanks for watching bro
@Motawa88
@Motawa88 Ай бұрын
they need way more rooms for single use case
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR Ай бұрын
I think there’s a lot of environments but most are locked behind the paywall / gamification
@marvinbernal
@marvinbernal 2 ай бұрын
Love the idea but Immersed, if you're reading this it needs a UI overhaul.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope the additional attention around spatial computing will bring that forward.
@bigwheeliejumper
@bigwheeliejumper 2 ай бұрын
im sure people will get used to vr..but that cafe a tad creepy
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Hahah. I think something that shows you real people or something closer would make it less creepy. Seeing cartoons of people just makes it a bit too mysterious for most people. It reminds me of coulrophobia (clown phobia) … not knowing who’s behind the makeup can be off putting for sure. While others have found their life partner on these apps 🤷🏽‍♂️
@jakejoyride
@jakejoyride 2 ай бұрын
Much better than vision pro
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Hahah. There’s just so much functionality already here! It even has telepresence… so multiple people with headsets can work in a digital space together! I hope Apple adds to this with their top notch hardware but they have to get us a consumer level device first.
@runman2627
@runman2627 2 ай бұрын
Check out fluid
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I mentioned Fluid in the Spatial Computing video! I love it. It’s completely browser based but very cool features there. Screen clarity is impressive
@kappaomegaphi
@kappaomegaphi 2 ай бұрын
My problem with immersed is the lag of mouse and keyboard and moving the screens…it makes working with any office suite a real pain … besides that, I agree with you, it’s a great app…
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yeah make sure your network is top notch or try the USB direct mode. I almost tossed out immersed because of lag issues. I’m glad I gave it another shot. Are you far away from the pc/Mac you’re mirroring? Or is your mouse connected to your headset?
@DigThat32
@DigThat32 2 ай бұрын
Folks tell you you kinda look like Ja Rule? I dig Immersed. It's a lot more flexible than the alternatives.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Yep all the time. It’s weird that it happens more now than when he was more famous. lol
@DigThat32
@DigThat32 2 ай бұрын
U got a platform now. More people see your face. In my comments folks say I look like Xzibit & sound like 3 Dog from Fallout.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@DigThat32 true but it happens in public too. I think the internet is to blame. Hahaha as with most things. 3 dog! I love it hahaha
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Love the long form content on your channel! I want to do some of that here as well
@DigThat32
@DigThat32 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VR Salute! The world is yours..make it happen Capn'
@ricardohnn
@ricardohnn 2 ай бұрын
Immersed is good, but I'm a huge fan of virtual desktop. The stream quality is just say and night. I can play games with a decent quality with VD, while immersed just reduce the quality so much it makes ridiculously bad.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
Virtual Desktop beats everything. It just doesn’t have the collaboration features that this has. If you don’t want multiple screens or shared workspaces then VD is as good as it gets. AND it passed your keyboard and mouse through to the remote machine. That team over there is killing it.
@user-ty6di6ky2o
@user-ty6di6ky2o 2 ай бұрын
@@TheConstruct_VRcan you confirm the quality is that much better? I find it hard to believe. I run immersed through usb.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
@@user-ty6di6ky2o wirelessly it’s effortlessly better screen quality. You can get crispy screens in immersed too by setting the resolution appropriately . But for example the clarity in virtual desktop was just great without me having to tinker with anything. I think both suffer when you make the screens too large and stretch out the pixels. USB in immersed is likely fine or just as good as VD. I think VD is better for other reasons outside of screen clarity. Like porting the mouse and keyboard connected to your headset back to the desktop. That alone makes virtual desktop a better wireless choice, if that’s your need.
@B-Ware321
@B-Ware321 2 ай бұрын
Immersed is targeting a different user base than VD. It's all about productivity with no focus on gaming.
@mikelockett19
@mikelockett19 2 ай бұрын
Virtual Desktop is excellent, but as far as working is concerned, would love if they just added multiple screen support!
@user-fe4zx5kh8f
@user-fe4zx5kh8f 2 ай бұрын
Can you send me some money so I can buy a meta quest device?
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
I cannot.
@nycnewera
@nycnewera 2 ай бұрын
I swear to God, I thought she was Ja Rule
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
lol. These comments had slowed down a bit. They come in waves 😅
@OgdenM
@OgdenM 2 ай бұрын
Gamifying something is NOT a good thing!!!! It's horrible in general and more so when it's a productivity app. On top of that, subscription models suck even more. I was excited for Immersed.. but now?????? I just don't now know.. those two things are giving me a very bad taste in my mouth. As to your videos: If you actually use these workspace apps to work with, PLEASE PLEASE show us an actual workflow. I have yet to find a single video where someone is actually working with them. Everyone is just demoing features like you..... and its highly annoying.
@TheConstruct_VR
@TheConstruct_VR 2 ай бұрын
I think the gamification is the only way out. People need to make money for their app or get data from your usage and offer it for free”free” Otherwise you’re just supporting an app for free with no profit. I think apps that use our usage data as currency have conditioned us to expect things for free. There’s not many places for developers to turn. As I mentioned, good point maybe I’ll do a workflow livestream. 🤷🏽‍♂️ wasn’t aware people would watch that sort of thing
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