Immortal Thor #10: Comic Thor Fights “MCU Thor”

[@Tigerkaya]

I'll always be grateful that on KZbin we have good thor representation with Thortalk

[@ThorTalk]

I’ll always be grateful you guys keep watching

[@cringekiller348]

I wish he had more subscribers. His videos are great.

[@Tigerkaya]

​@@ThorTalkone thing that keeps me subscribed, you don't click bait to make another character look bad

[@ebenezerstooge]

They really did just mock the MCU and Im here for it.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

But the kinds of jokes arent in the mcu.

[@Matt-ji9hj]

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[@Matt-ji9hj]

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[@Matt-ji9hj]

​@@mutalemwananshiku4098 There's one in Jokes and Thunder

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@Matt-ji9hj which one

[@fictionaldebater5792]

damn thor talk if you reading this, keep making content I love your work here

[@therussiancomicbookgeek]

This channel is my favourite Thor channel ever

[@ThorTalk]

High praise from you, sir

[@vaggos2003]

Are there any more Thor channels out there?

[@therussiancomicbookgeek]

@@vaggos2003 there must be but this is my favourite

[@butchersblade7068]

Comic Thor vs MCU Thor should be a short and sweet victory for comic book Thor.

[@Erick-ue6fh]

10:59 it has to said in a crocodile Dundee voice. “That’s not I knife……. That’s a knife.”

[@dbowtheblackpanther7099]

Good to have you back 👍🏾

[@ThorTalk]

Good to be back as always

[@vaggos2003]

Thor Talk, if you see this, feel free to respond if you're interested, for I have quite some video suggestions for you.

[@lukaslambs5780]

The excerpts from Eddas in the beginning of comics are awesome!

[@timberulfur]

I did a double take at the title of the video and had to be sure it said comic book Thor vs MCU Thor lol

[@clumsylemon430]

Why it feels like MCU Thor so much🤣. Also, since Toranos is Udgard-Thor, Gaea is Jord, Buri - Utgard-Odin and Udgard Loki, well Udgrad Loki. Does that mean Nyx is Utgard-Nott and Atum Utgard-Sol?

[@leopoldocao6829]

i love how this is similar to xenmu manipulation

[@peccles12]

Love the work you do.

[@ThorTalk]

Much appreciated

[@edrianraneses5864]

I hoped that you can review the Roxxon presents: Thor comic for us next and tell us what you feel about Keep Thor being a parody of the mcu iteration of the character😊

[@Lord_Dranek]

Gawd I hate the MCU Thor, I'm glad that this issue made a clear distinction between the two, considering MCU is apparently 616 (which it is not, it's Earth-19999)

[@insanemakaioshin]

4:40 - How can the Keep still exist if Donald is alive & imprisoned in Asgard?

[@ThorTalk]

The Keep is separate from Donald, he’s just made from his body. Donald Blake became separate from Thor after Thor’s death in Fear Itself. Amora then decapitated Blake and used his body to make the Keep. Donald Blake’s decapitated head was still alive and was put in a dream state by creatures called “Mares”. This was all in Matt Fraction’s run. Later in Donny Cates’ run, Donald Blake would go mad within a dream world created by Odin that he goes to when he’s not Thor. This Blake emerged and later was imprisoned after a reign of terror. It’s not clear how Blake got in Odin’s dream world since he was in the Mare’s dreamworld. It may be a contradiction or he just was pulled back there later on.

[@chaneladriana6829]

Crocodile dandy and hela reference

[@LemanRussx]

Some of the lines are read faster than they should sound. 5:00 for example, he's winded and should be slower and or heavier

[@ThorTalk]

It was intentional. The quips are popping up in his head involuntarily. In the book, they have quotation marks around them so the reader knows this. I wanted to make them sound unnatural and like they slipped out so fast that Thor couldn’t stop himself in the middle of saying it. Don’t know if the effect turned out great or not, but that’s what I was going for

[@LemanRussx]

@@ThorTalk The idea did work out for the most part, I'd say it's a personal thing cause it's just that one scene.

[@Dimitriterrorman]

nice video lad good work!'

[@Within_Cells_Interlinked]

I know that opening quote is from the Eddas, but….I’ll always think of my favorite Wardruna song first: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ_Ohah-hZ6kadEsi=7Ex2-xI9p5E-vy7B

[@swanliszt]

Wasn't Donald Blake venomized?

[@ThorTalk]

He was. It’s complicated. Blake became separate from Thor after Thor’s death in Fear Itself. Amora then decapitated Blake and used his body to make the Keep. Donald Blake’s decapitated head was still alive and was put in a dream state by creatures called “Mares”. This was all in Matt Fraction’s run. Later in Donny Cates’ run, Donald Blake would go mad within a dream world created by Odin that he goes to when he’s not Thor. This Blake emerged and later was venomized. However this Blake doesn’t meld great with the story of Blake in Fraction’s run since the dream world is created by Odin not the Mares. It’s not clear how Blake got in Odin’s dream world since he was in the Mare’s dreamworld. It may be a contradiction or he just was pulled back there later on. Again complicated, but both stories happened

[@Vamroc]

Okay I'm confused Donald Blake was imprisoned by Loki, a symbiote bonded to Donald, and that was the last we saw of him

[@chaneladriana6829]

Chris hemsworth is the reason why Thor went from my 2nd favourite character to my least favourite character

[@cringekiller348]

Wasn't Chris Hemsworth. It was Taika and Russos. Hemsworth played him perfectly in Thor 1 and Avengers and Infinity War.

[@davidmount2483]

Yeah don't blame Chris blame marvel

[@rocketprimestudios6073]

Chris hemsworth did a great job as Thor and mcu Thor is still awesome. Just becuse love and thunder wast that good dosnt cancel out all the other awsome Thor mcu appearances.

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

Gonna buy this one.

[@akshaaynair7912]

The whole roxxon arc felt like filler, it feels like there is no connection. Went like thor vs elder god then middle finger to MCU Thor and back to thor vs elder gods.

[@michaeltaylor788]

Yea this was pointless Al Ewing illogical far left hate for corporations I understand if he is commenting on something a corporation did wrong like stealing trying to lobby to be identified as a person stuff like that ( but here he is just hating on a variant character that has his flaws but a lot of people for better or worse still like ) P.s. I’m middle left person myself.

[@ThorTalk]

Don’t really disagree honestly, but we’ll have to see how important this story was in the grand scheme of things when the run is finished

[@akshaaynair7912]

@@ThorTalk very true but right now it feels like just a jab (deserved) at MCU Thor

[@DavidJohnson-td5ic]

@@michaeltaylor788 You consider a comic book making a statement about a company's treatment of a fictional character far left...? This reads like statements made by people on the opposite end of your supposed "...middle left" stance. P.S. I agree with Ewing and Hemsworth.

[@michaeltaylor788]

@@DavidJohnson-td5ic actually he has made other statements and even admitted he is far left and makes middle left people like me roll my eyes at him his work is good but when he throws his political opinions into things .

[@shyjy6241]

I have been wondering how strong Thor would be underwater. Apparently he can breathe underwater in some instances, and in others must hold his breath. My main point though is in his lightning. Surely anything wet or submerged in water would enhance conductivity, no? I saw him in one comic perform a thunderstorm underwater, in what the described as a deep sea supercell.

[@tomasmisek5598]

The issue there is that he is the god of thunder - a phenomenon tied to the sky, and the son of the earth, so the sea is probably where he is weakest

[@alextyson7717]

I heard Chris Hemsworth is going to play HE-MAN in a Movie

[@SuperCam-me3mj]

Is immortal Thor any good? Also does anyone think infinity war Thor was a parody?

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Yea its prettt good and how was infinity war thor a parody.

[@SuperCam-me3mj]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 I personally don’t think infinity war Thor was a parody.I still think that was the best Thor in the MCU. I know Ragnarok went a little bit comical, but still had its serious moments. Infinity war was peak Thor and the last time I saw that Thor he beheaded Thanos and walked away I don’t know who that fat Thor was or that Thor in love and thunder, but it wasn’t the Thor I . I was just curious to see if anyone resented infinity war Thor, I know a lot of non comic fan prefer infinity War over post infinity war.

[@antona.1327]

If it was a knock against MCU Thor (as it should, since Taika been mocking comic-book Thor without any consequences), Ewing def had to hide it, which is why some MCU fans get defensive saying ''it doesn't look or sound like MCU Thor''. You can't bite the hand that feeds. Marvel was fine mocking Fox's 2015s FF movie in one of the Punisher comics, but won't let you openly mock MCU, since it's the opposite: Marvel Comics are forced by Disney to include MCU stuff into the comics because that's the priority for Disney. If Marvel Comics was a seperate entity from Disney, they'd be doing that since the MCU became insuffurable with needles comic changes for the worse and their ''banter''.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@antona.1327 mcu thor may be jokey but he isnt a corporare sellout like roxxon thor is and he doesnt even look like roxxon thor. If comic book thor met waititi thor he could cringe at him being dumb but they wouldnt fight. "Ewing def had to hide it"- if he had hide o think they would scrapped roxxon thor. Marvel movies have jokes that are cringe but they arent onbnoxious as some people accuse it of being. Mcu has also poked fun of itself with she-hulk so ewing isnt being very brave if he things he hurt marvel studios.

[@antona.1327]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 did you read what I just said, the person with Burzum's number 1 fan on his pfp? It can't be open mockery because the comic has to pass editors who won't allow MCU slander. But even with that in mind, this comic totally illustrates the problem with MCU and its Thor. They sacrificed character's nobility and intellegence for cheap laughs because they thought it would sell better. And MCU Thor is def a sellout, because he doesn't do duties because it's his responsibility, but because he can gain something from that (like being congratulated for his work instead of Starlord). Next, the MCU is now cringe and beyond, and especially its Thor. Ewing went easy on them here, I'd say. After all, in Thor Dumb and Thunder we have a joke that's supposed to be for real where Thor says Asgardians used to feast on children (who allowed this to even be written on the page, let alone filmed and put in the movie??).

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@antona.1327 i dont recall mcu thor looking like roxxon thor or only appealing to a corporation, waititis thor didnt even get to have his hammer till the end of love and thunder. You know the mcu didnt imvent banter,that existed in cheesy 80s and 90s action movies. As much as you can dislike making mcu thor funny , the character is still a hero that cares abiut helping people in need. Love and thunder made a big deal about the character being looked up to by children and his sharing his power with them,something ewing does except its with jane foster , loki, beta ray bill. The end of love and thunder had him as a dad something roxxon thor wouldnt. Be honest u probably thought mcu was cringe before based off your pfp. Your one of those guys that need comic book movies to be dark to take them seriously and you hate jokes.

[@benparrish672]

Great job man. Good story, not great, but yea, awful artwork. We need The AllFather ODIN back to hia Silver Age of comics power levels!

[@rocketprimestudios6073]

Quips one liners banter… super hero comics are full of that. Most of them have been using it for 85 years. What’s so bad about that?

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

Thor was cancelled, it is between cringe and social commentary, agreed with the art.

[@chaneladriana6829]

Thor is currently dead in the avengers

[@ThorTalk]

He’ll be back, I have faith in MacKay that it will be a worthy return

[@chaneladriana6829]

Walmart homelander

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Dont get me wrong i dont like the comedic direction the mcu took thor, but the thought bubbles thor has in his head sound more like what people accuse mcu dialogue of being than whats actually said. Also mcu thor despite being a goofball and an idiot at times , is still the noble hero, kinda brother and now father that roxxon thor isnt. Still a good issue.

[@terryshrk]

I agree,..MCU Thor is fine with me,.HOWEVER,.what people are actually upset about is the age old comlaint of an adaptation not staying accurate to the venerated source material. Which is odd as Marvel comics Thor, as created by Stan Lee and company is NOTHING like the original Norse myths accept in name only,.sooo...

[@Matt-ji9hj]

@@terryshrk So what? Mcu Thor is adapting comic Thor. They should at least have the decency to keep some of what makes the character so endearing in the comics

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@terryshrk something i also just realised if roxxon thor is really suppose to represent waititi thor thats weird , cause the idea of thor briefly sharing his power with others is something thor did in love and thunder something roxxon thor wouldnt do and ewing did a similar thing in issue 4.

[@renatooni-san4404]

no Thor has ever shared his power with others before the mcu. To tell the truth, since the character was created, whoever lifts the hammer will have the power of Thor.​@@mutalemwananshiku4098

[@wizardfrombeyondthestars8739]

Not a big fan of this artstyle. Don't like how the faces look.

[@basimali619]

Al Ewing is better for drawing things like immortal hulk imo.

[@Theuglyconcretefinisher]

I love your detailed, thorough and thoughtful breakdown

[@ThorTalk]

I’m glad you enjoyed it