Immortals don’t counter strafe in valorant…Here’s why

[@maskangel]

for me, counterstrafing is a lot more consistent. pressing a key makes it easier to hit the timing, because i know i shoot after i hit the key. letting go of a key is really awkward for me. it might just be because i've played cs for years and always counterstrafed.

[@magikz300]

Same bro we’re wired to counterstrafe

[@sncaz1767]

legit its entered our genetic code at this point lmao

[@ominously2574]

@@sncaz1767I think it’s apart of my ancestors now

[@desipinkman4353]

xD

[@nuggetz9380]

Facts!!!

[@Noahjowow]

I heard Shroud mention that you can shoot almost instantly after you let go of the movement key. I didn't understand this untill recently and this has been a major benefit for me and my gameplay

[@idrilian2582]

Também faço isso quando vejo um inimigo ou continuo andando pro lado até ele dá o primeiro tiro, aí eu paro, dou 2 tiros e ando pro outro lado. Também, de phantom, ando pro lado e assim que um inimigo aparece na minha tela ando pro lado oposto e atiro quase instantaneamente, The Range é bom treinar o time (I also do this when I see an enemy or I keep walking to the side until he takes the first shot, then I stop, take 2 shots and walk to the other side. Also, from phantom, I walk to the side and as soon as an enemy appears on my screen I walk to the opposite side and shoot almost instantly, The Range is good to train the time)

[@nailer10]

dont listen to this

[@Samuel-rz8tp]

That is called deadzoning

[@kaslofchen257]

Do you use counter strafing?

[@NNiico_o]

i feel like this a true, coming for counter strike, counter staffing is ways different from cs to valorant and its better to just stop, compared to counter staffing, Counter staffing in cs was used to stop right away because your character moves even after letting go of the d or a key in valorant you stop right away.

[@hatto]

I think counterstrafing is still useful though, but just don't fully stop. It's useful on a quick jiggle for a 1-tap attempt to immediately hide after the shot. I know you kinda covered it with the jiggling part, but just wanna point that out as well.

[@sondo301_]

It can be helpful but anyone who isn’t a professional player should not be concerned of learning the mechanic. I know there’s a lot of pros who don’t. So it’s up to your preference.

[@AlltyIronside]

​@@sondo301_ In video like this you should say something like : " you dont have to learn it. but you can use it if you have already learn it." Bet theres a ton of ppl that came from CS, seen video like this and spent time to "unlearn" counterstrafing. Rewriting muscle memory like that is insanely huge and unnecessary step. otherwise for new ppl i would say its a relief, its much easier to learn your timings without one more key right.

[@hatto]

@golden fefe bruh

[@zeroxp33]

Even shroud said dont counterstrafe in valorant because you stop so quickly by releasing the keys

[@DeepfriedBeans4492]

@@AlltyIronside yeah, and if you still play csgo too then unlearning counterstrafing will harm you in that game for no benefit in valorant, so may as well do it if you're comfortable with it

[@ItzNo0b]

i noticed beforehand i was doing this unintentionally without knowing. It actually explains why some days when i tend to drone out i do better but when i’m more focused i do worse

[@sondo301_]

Don’t focus on your mechanics but the game. Like if you over think your aim your aim will suck. Instead think about where enemies are positioned and your gameplan

[@xtremefps_]

More autopilot less worry

[@Max_Matrix]

@@sondo301_ i find it to be the exact opposite for me, actually. When im trying to think about where enemies are positioned and how to play for spike etc. My aim sucks. I hop into a deathmatch where aim is the only thing im focused on and i dominate.

[@ItzNo0b]

@@xtremefps_ that is exactly how it is for me, i tend to do so much better with i autopilot, but i don’t know how to autopilot more and worry less

[@xtremefps_]

@@ItzNo0b ya know your empty box where you go and just zone out and literally think of nothing? Do that and let your hands take control. Eventually you can do it without needing to go to the nothing box.

[@teddyseba]

As a very consistent Immortal player myself, who doesn’t play anymore, I find myself watching these videos mainly out of curiosity rather than to learn. I believe all these tips are useful! I subconsciously stopped doing this a few episodes ago and realize I mainly do it when I’m tilting. I don’t think it has a huge impact but the discipline you build off of tips such as these will all come together and make you an overall better player. Keep trying, but don’t make your overall playstyle about the shit you’ve seen on KZbin. Valorant is the most fun when you can be yourself and play how you want, and still succeed.

[@Ripsxw_]

your commentary really inspires me frankly you put me a slap

[@jerypilapil6560]

More people needs to read this. A lot of people religiously follows their idols or whatever they see in yt

[@SATANsix66]

I believe you are not immortal 😂

[@teddyseba]

@@SATANsix66 I don’t mind that you feel that way since it doesn’t change anything.

[@SATANsix66]

@@teddyseba if its make you reply me so my deduction is 100% true HAHAHA🤣

[@nickrl113]

Counter-strafing is a mechanic useful in CS:GO and other 'pure' (using Source physics as-is) Source games because player characters in the Source engine have a significant deceleration period when you release movement keys. Counter-strafing cuts this time very quickly by starting movement in the opposite direction. The Source Engine is also specifically coded to stop your momentum immediately if you press an input opposing your current velocity (See: accidentally stopping mid-air as scout tf2). Valorant is not a Source Engine game (it's Unreal Engine). The physics are not the same. Player characters lack that long deceleration period that makes counter-strafing useful. Counter-strafing has anywhere between no impact to a very, very small impact on this stopping time. Most players will find this difference basically negligible. Some players find that timing their shots for 0 movement error is easier when counter-strafing as a result of muscle memory. These players are free to continue counter-strafing as they wish. Some players find that timing their shots for 0 movement error is harder when counter-strafing as a result of extra inputs and timings (even compared to jiggling-- releasing the counter-strafe is also a learned timing). These players should not counter-strafe. Just do the thing that gets you comfortably shooting bullets near the location of your crosshair

[@duquelouis]

this was definetly a good perspective. I would say it is better said that in the video because of the science of it you've metioned. Thanks for the insight

[@tracjng]

So ive been jiggling for 2 years in valorant?

[@ericdong3601]

Jiggling deez nuts

[@spiartslite3233]

Oh that's actually really informative, and also good to see that u made the text have an outline in the thumbnail :D

[@sondo301_]

Haha yessir thank you for the tips

[@MatuFZS]

thnx bro!! it really helps to see another perspective of the mechanics

[@howdy8340]

nice content bro my main issue in valorant for sure it's counter-strafe I always get too nervous from care to much in hit counter-strafe accurate and I just forgot to aim or to pay attention in others game aspects, so I run some dm's just letting the button and I feel my aim way more confident and I feel that I was really aiming and hitting heads, I'll try it out for sure. Hope u stay with ur content it's really good and have helped me a lot!

[@noexppp]

after following the tips you gave, now I'm always on top of the frag, thanks bro

[@noexppp]

but sometimes if I've been playing for too long I sometimes forget the tips, the second problem is in my movement my aim is now increasing rapidly, but it's just the movement problem

[@udukamjoku8860]

I've heard for a while ppl say counterstrafing was pointless in val but until I actually learned how to counter strafe, getting those first contact kills were 50/50. Yes I see it's LESS USEFUL then when used in CSGO but to say it's useless is a understatement imo. Whenever I get my timing down with my counterstrafes and hop in ranked, my accuracy is much more consistent and this is largely why I was able to rank up. Jiggling is something Ive always tried to do and can do it's just not as effective from what I've seen in my gameplay

[@renatoruiz6609]

Hey yo, this was really usefull, I had no ideia! Thank you for the tips

[@kaifreecss]

i started following u a week ago.. now i feel my aim is smoother now. Thanks for u advice 💕

[@sondo301_]

No problem, I’ll come out with some more aiming stuff soon

[@gabdielcrespo7384]

I've been unintentionally using both depending on the situation, you should master both so your movement is a lot more diverse.

[@cagethelonewolf]

thanks for telling us about the graph, it single handly changes the learning curve, without it you'll never assume that your doing it correctly, but with the graph you can see you are jigglign at max speed without failing a shot

[@paduz]

I'm so used to counterstrafing that even if it doesn't make a difference, it's still a thing I do

[@A0TES]

counter strafe is a extra bonus i think, good video bro!

[@lonelyseeker5832]

i wish i knew this before from the monment i started playing CSGO and even when i started playing valorant i used counter strafe and it makes sense why i whiff my first shot most of the time... altho its the most accurate shot and with counter strafe too... this is gonna take ALOT OF TIME to get used to, anyways thanks for the advice!!!!! LOVE YOU

[@prabhavdhanesha7036]

Thanks for the tip, I'm now signed to global eSports tournaments

[@sondo301_]

Gotchu bro

[@harrybennett5127]

For you it feels like counterstrafing is something extra for you. With many other people, myself included, counterstrafing feels like second nature, and it would be going out of my way to not counterstrafe. Trying not to counterstrafe messes up my aim and just makes my experience worse.

[@sondo301_]

I didn’t come from cs so I don’t counter strafe. Pros in this game also don’t counter strafe. It’s an extra task that is not needed.

[@sondo301_]

But if you come from cs than it may be harder for you not to since you’re used to csgo mechanics.

[@tahlr7470]

@@sondo301_ which pros dont counterstrafe

[@freightFPS]

@@sondo301_ plenty of pros do counterstrafe, including yay

[@n0raaFTW]

If that works for you bro Nice I wish I had a ram upgrade to build muscle memory like other people I don't want to know how to counter strafe, I just want to consistently jiggle Don't take that out of context

[@LeniusRiven]

Pros play this game for hours on end and practice specifically their first bullet accuracy. So they know how time their bullets without counter strafing. Most of us don't. I think counter strafing is good because it tells you instantly that you shoot after pressing the counter key(A or D). Maybe it's me but my first bullet accuracy has gotten better since I do this. But at the end of the day, crosshair placement is king.

[@lewe2364]

thanks for this vid ive been trying to learn counter strafing for quite some time, but I never achieved perfection. so this vid gave me hope that i might just did it the wrong way and now ima just try this technique :) thanks very much

[@breezeless_7665]

That is very true, as a csgo player I still have the habit of counter strafing when it isn’t necessary. It is also much harder due to your character immediately stoping after releasing your movement key which would end up making you move the other way when missing a counter strafe, and the reward is only a few frames of advantage. It is not worth investing time on counter strafing when there is so much more to learn and work on to improve in the game

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[@blockboi8116]

My muscle memory is already used to counterstrafing that i need to learn NOT to counterstrafe when i need to stop making it feel a little weird

[@sondo301_]

If what you’re doing is working keep doing it

[@Momokyun]

No this video is trash and misinformation lol. Counter strafing is better way to move.

[@ShiroZami0823]

So I was doing the "jiggling" instead of counterstrafing when I thought It was counterstrafing huh?

[@FeqZGalaxy]

Easy fix for the counter strafe timing: Wooting 60HE. It's equipped with analog switches which can be adjusted in 0.1mm steps. You can also enable a feature which allows to turn off a switch by releasing the key by only 0.1mm so if you let go of let's say A or D, you will instantly stop moving. It helped me alot. W keyboard hands down

[@sondo301_]

That’s so crazy, pay to win.

[@CrystonStreams]

While this helps you to win your games, I prefer to not use illigal hardware/software that you would not be allowed to use during a tournament.

[@MIX-g2z]

@@CrystonStreams how is that illegal lmao? source : "trust me bro" ? lol

[@9W0o]

​@@CrystonStreamsit's legal

[@CorrosiveCitrus]

@@CrystonStreams It's just a keyboard

[@youstedfortreder1203]

Counter strafing is so ingrained into my brain i cant shoot without constantly counter strafing and crouching

[@sev8608]

For me personally, I aim by how the bullets/recoil feel and movement coordination. I practice A LOT in The Range, and I tend to warm up by trying to feel where the bullets are going and how to move to be accurate and evasive. But my playstyle is more of prediction, trapping, and lurking. So I play controllers and initiators more than Duelists.

[@computer8490]

Same bro

[@LOBOTOMYtv]

some people find it easier to time their stop by pressing a key rather than releasing one

[@johnethandelosreyes]

I got so used to counter strafing in cs I keep doing it in valorant. Thanks for sharing this info, that's why I see my bullets go to the side of the head haha.

[@VanessaSGamingParadise]

Humans are creatures of habbits and at some days i just dont get over not to counterstrafe. But yeah its true i felt that before i watching your video as well , i just stobled up on it today Release the key -> aim -> shot the target ; is really more beneficial than counterstrafing. And i am saying this after playing many many years in counterstrike.

[@alzenenage2476]

This is my first time seeing someone saying that counterstrafe is a myth. Actually makes sense since Valorant movement is different from CS:GO. In CS:GO, characters slides a bit when stoping.

[@sondo301_]

To stop you don’t need to. But dead zoning is a must. People just don’t understand the actual definition of counter strafing. They just generalize it.

[@Purified1k]

I've always counter strafed for years. It's not something I can really stop doing. I mean, I suppose it barely affects me. But since the movement is definitely more sensitive, I have messed my strafe up before, but not often.

[@sondo301_]

Those not often times can cost you games though. I had to learn how to stop as well but it’s paid off a lot and I’m a lot more confident in my gameplay because I know that the 20% chance my strafe messes up my recoil is no more.

[@zenq7813]

assuming that you came from csgo because you said "i've always counter strafed for years" counter strafing isnt something that requires special practice, I, myself started doing it unconsciously after roughly 1 year of playing csgo, it isnt a hard to learn or hard to master technique its just about familiarizing with it, counter strafing does give you an advantage in valorant, despite what some people would say, it gives a very small advantage that is overlooked because of its pros and cons, i don't think it can mess up your strafe if you learned and familiarized with the technique, and definitely you shouldnt try to kill your muscle memory because of some videos, while i do agree that you shouldnt try to learn to counter strafe in valorant if you didnt switch from csgo, i dont think you should blame a mechanic just because you haven't learned it to use it properly, i don't think there is a time i lost a fight because I "messed up" my counter strafe, also, there is no way your counter strafe will remove the first bullet accuracy of your shot because you literally just tap the opposite key of what your are holding when you commit to the peek. those streamers you guys watch, like tenz shahzam or zellsis for example, all came from csgo, they all counter strafe, and still somehow dont mess up their strafe...

[@runek100]

@@zenq7813 yeah when I started csgo I was learning counter strife, b hop movement etc and it was hard to use. I didn't get how people can do it so naturally. But it really came just from playing game and you burn it into your brain. I can't switch it off rn. I heard that just letting key go is enough, but it is impossible to do that for some reason.

[@zenq7813]

@@runek100 ik you dont have to worry about killing muscle memory, the same goes with crouching, eventually as you go higher in elo you are going to stop crouching at every gun fight, deleting the keybind in my opinion is a cheap way to try to cheat the system, if you look at the current pros, most of them crouch because they came from csgo, yet they still are the best in the game, for reference, tenz, yay and tarik...

[@runek100]

@@zenq7813 well yeah washed csgo pros are much better than any valo pro. I think it is just because of their mechanical skill. I have blast just playing sheriff and masrhal, couze there is no opposition. Also I don't get how people can play vandal, I refuse to play gun with random recoil:D

[@L0uiS_]

Facts bro🔥sick video

[@emptynevermore]

Thanks for this video I hope it helps me

[@tobino6664]

believe woohoojin calls it deadzoning as opposed to jiggling

[@GerdTerd]

Yes, he refers to it as Deadzoning. Jiggling is just the movement without shooting in the transitions

[@sondo301_]

Well kind of. Dead zone is the small second you have in the beginning of your movement to when you’re accurate. In valorant it takes longer to reach max speed compared to the time it takes to go from max speed to dead stop. So in the beginning while gaining your speed in the very beginning you are accurate and that is the dead zone.

[@nailer10]

Great edit my brother, but counter strafe is very useful, when u face better players. In this example on 1:07 i get what your trying to explain, but if someone is counter strafing like that, they literaly suck, ngl. Theres ways for u to practice that and increase your gameplay level, but i guess if u wanna hit immortal, u dont need counter strafe that much. Cuz high elo is up to Radiant 200 or higher. (At least in my region). But i garantee, if u learn how to do that, you will be at an advantage against those who do not know how to do it properly. So, In my opinion, it's super important if you want to be a better player, because counter strafe makes you more agile and ready for combat, instead of releasing the key and having to try a flick, in case more than one opponent appears on your screen. Sorry about my english, its pretty shaky.

[@ilovereadingwuxiaxianxiaat8994]

True, the reason I don't let go of my movement key after thinking about this a few months ago was because I have to actually hit my shot for this method to be effective. Where as if I counter strafe I have a window of opportunity to hit my shot and also am already moving the other way faster compared to if I let go.

[@nailer10]

@@ilovereadingwuxiaxianxiaat8994 yes, ofc. Im currently top 253 in br ranked, thats why i talked in this video, ppl need to understand that, counter strafe is waay more effective, but ofc, is not precise if u dont now how to do it properly...but in high elo is better if u learn how to do it and be as precise as u can, instead of just releasing the key.

[@timmytenor1940]

counterstrafing isn't just about stopping yourself to shoot. It also makes it harder for the enemy to shoot you bc of the movement

[@sondo301_]

In cs, the definition of counter strafing is to stop your movement faster. This is valorant. We dead zone here lil bro 😎

[@timmytenor1940]

@@sondo301_ you are correct but in valorant you move slower than in cs so I think the extra movement helps. I don’t disagree with what you said in the vid tho, but counter strafing can be helpful when used correctly.

[@derfiete111]

1:05 its even more useful when u hold d and then press a and you stop instantly :)

[@teixeira2764]

For someone that came from cs, it's way easier to counter strafe than it's to not counter strafe. Also, there's no point in not counter strafing if you already learned it

[@sondo301_]

Word that is true for those who already have counter strafing as a habit. But for people in lower ranks who don’t know how to or even in high ranks who don’t come from cs it’s easier not to.

[@TheGoonies-p3h]

Also not counter strafing can also increase better habits among having peakers adv when you counter strafe the network of the shot for other people is getting further apart a youtuber explains this amazingly but when you swing out without counterstrafing the shots are more frequent also makes it harder to be hit

[@sondo301_]

Can you please send the link to the video

[@huyvu5205]

Counterstrafe give your tiny extra timing to hit the shot accurate and fast. Sometimes you just no need that to fight against not strong- enough enemies, but in tournament where players'skills are nearly similar, you will see the differences if you do not counterstrafe against your enemy team, even low tier than you and your team.

[@forfunsquad77]

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[@josephray6264]

its literally one frame difference, it would just be the same with the stop and shoot timing

[@RemValorant]

Radiant coach here, if you don't counterstrafe you are only immortal because riot has a horrible ranking system.

[@sondo301_]

Lol nice roast bro… I actually know and support your content but you’re just wrong. You basically saying pros are wrong then… you must know better I guess.

[@KamiKomplex504]

You showed stutter stepping no? Jiggling uses counter strafing with alternating repetition that is not defined to require click timing. Stutter stepping uses counter strafing with random sideway but defined to be timed to shot timings. Both are strafing techniques. Releasing one key vs holding both keys to stop is the technique to achieve counter strafing, I coin it sideway vs inverted sideway movement aka press vs release. There is also the complication of movement mirror strafing or "counter" movement mirror strafing shortened to counter strafing. This form of counter strafing is a term in games without movement based bloom to refer to reacting to an enemy strafe (usually when trying to movement mirror for easier shots) and countering that movement to increase the difficulty of landing shots. Leading the strafing dance in this way gives you an edge in aim vs movement tradeoff as you have the control and therefore the anticipation in the strafing.

[@Dekusimp-x1c]

bro i did all these drills once or twice and when i got on i wasnt missing. ty

[@sondo301_]

Word

[@yurisarawr]

my roommate is ex radiant and current immortal and it’s weird seeing him not counter-strafe often i thought it was common

[@sa1kyo1502]

Shroud actually mentioned this before. he said there isn't really any reason to learn counterstrafe in valorant because the movement is different from csgo. For those who already know how to counterstrafe just do it. For those who haven't shouldn't really try to waste time on that mechanic and just focus on aim and game sense i think.

[@yoink9148]

theres no game sense in valo lmao just turn off your brain and kill people. thats what got me from bronze to ascendant lmao.

[@WarpSonic]

i find that when i don't counter strafe i end up shooting too soon 90% of the time which is obviously placebo but it's easier to keep doing it than to relearn how to shoot imo.

[@evolvereditzz7326]

idk if it actually works but I have a trick that is equall to counter straifing.. the thing is.. just make your normal movement to walk instead of run.. and then instead of counter straifing.. just release the run key... and your aim will be smooth as hell

[@sondo301_]

This isn’t ideal. Just practice rather than trying to find hacks and short cuts.

[@zayygotcha]

ive been counterstrafing ever since playing this game but now i'm starting to learn to jiggle and it feels better ngl i wouldnt say counterstrafing is useless but jiggling vs counterstrafing is just a preference

[@sondo301_]

Wait what? I think you may be confused. It’s not choosing one or the other they are totally two different things used for different objectives. Jiggling is strafing from side to side. Counter strafe is just tapping the opposite key to stop your movement.

[@workscs]

I feel this only applies to people who dont already have CS experience. If you have to think about the counter strafe before shooting you shouldn't be doing it, but if you have the muscle memory already I don't see why it's worth trying to unlearn the mechanic.

[@whoissubby]

I don't think i will ever be able to get the habit of counter strafing out of my system. I played CSGO for wayy too long haha

[@sondo301_]

Word, for non cs people it wouldn’t be a point In learning it.

[@MikeAlexLive]

I think it depends on the keyboard as well. Not all keyboards have great timing with the release of the key, if you're using like a Wooting or any other performance keyboard then I think this applies, but counter-strafing is best for budget keyboards imo.

[@sondo301_]

I’m not going to lie this is very true man. Trippy the co founder of como ready even talked about the latency in your keyboards and mouse in valorant and how it matters a lot in this game

[@megalol1344]

i used to just let go of the key but now i learned to counter strafe and letting go feels weird now

[@AvylTheArtist]

I believe that this the only thing that's been hindering me to high elo. Because since I was bronze to diamond, I religiously practiced counterstrafing and i still dont hit shots, critical shots that i need to high in my games.... Thanks Sondo!!!!!!!

[@labcoatreads]

So counterstrafing is not NECESSARY but I feel it does help me remain consistent and thats why I learned it.

[@sondo301_]

True it’s it works for you then keep going

[@CopeDnD]

its muscle memory at this point and I still click on heads, my point is if you already know how to do it theres no need to switch and make it harder for people who have that mechanic drilled into their head.

[@seifhart6881]

my issue is that counter strafing has became a habit for me since i played csgo before valorant and i found it very difficult to get rid off

[@manny_agre]

You should not get rid of it

[@linkplays2952]

no reason to get rid of it they are basically the same thing

[@mithex8414]

@@linkplays2952 valorant doesnt have real counter strafing. CS does. they are completely different

[@wafflezshorts]

Counter-strafing is still extremely practical as pressing the opposing movement key will make you stop faster. Although it is barely noticeable, it still makes a significant difference.

[@jonahhughes8197]

average bronze player

[@devaxtion]

did u even watch the video?

[@wafflezshorts]

@@devaxtion I did. But just from a statistical standpoint, counter strafing is still better than just letting go of a movement key.

[@wafflezshorts]

@@jonahhughes8197 not bronze, I can’t even smurf your peak because of how low elo you are.

[@devaxtion]

@@wafflezshorts it is, from a statistical standpoint, but that wasn't the point of the video.

[@rileyth]

After playing cs for years counterstrafing is so baked into my muscle memory it's hard to not do it

[@vladisslav7244]

When playing, I don't use both of these mechanics, instead I turned on the dynamics for the sight, and shoot when the sight shows the minimum spread, it's much easier for me than catching timings when strafing

[@cattosssss9]

this guy underatted af

[@huskytzu7709]

What we subconsciously do is dead zoning. It’s when you jiggle and shoot In between the split seconds of the jiggles.

[@indrawandwiprasetyo5977]

I still do this till now unconsciously, I tried to stop it off. But then, I realized I was using an optical keyboard instead of mechanical one. The key is so sensitive that a bit press will trigger an action. So, when my finger is on its way to let go of my key, the key is still registered, basically it needs my finger to not stressing the key at all. So yeah, I am still using counter strafing to counter my own keyboard sensitivity.

[@xojxstin]

jiggling is so much easier in val that its harder for me cuz im so used to cs movement

[@xxcridonxx7614]

So basically if u already counterstrafe(I’ve had a bit of experience with source engine games) just keep doing since you have built muscle memory but if u are new to tac fps don’t bother learning it as the time difference is barely a 10 of a second

[@xdmikeyyy9427]

hey bro this is quality but you are so underrated glad your randomly popped up 😇😍

[@sondo301_]

Thank you, still learning how to make better and better content.

[@jsnagn3410]

Jiggling still actually makes you a stationary target. You're literally just shaking your screen while being in place. It still doesn't make a difference. Jiggling just compensates the microadjustments needed in your aim. If you watch Noted's movement-aim tutorial he actually proves counterstrafing in movement-aim is such a god mechanic when doing it at the maximum speed. Just because movement error is so much prevalent in valorant does not mean Counter-Strafing is worse than jiggling. In jiggling, you are eliminating your character's speed which makes you a dead duck. But if you are counter-strafing, you provide a speedy motion from the server's feedback which makes you a harder target from the enemy's headshot accuracy. p.s. this is why people who do "popping-swing" don't die to headshots accuracy. Because popping swing literally just strafe 4 extra steps instead of 2.

[@Assassunn]

Thanks for your video showcasing deadzoning, which is gamechanger in valorant. However... they do cs! Deadzoning is a separate specific strafing skill (if we consider your definition of cs'ing). Ask any radiant player they'll tell you they do both and can explain why, I've been asking them on twitch, basically: when you cs you stop almost instantly so you can shot faster (despite people saying it's unlike csgo, you still have a significant and very noticeable time to see your crosshair stop if you just let's go the key instead of counterstrafe). I'm sorry but your example of 0:55 isn't accurate at all: you're not even moving the same way, you're not slowing down, not counting frames, not showing a pressed actions overlay and there is no guarantee that you actually can time perfectly your shot with the counterstrafe (after all, you're not used to cs now). The reason you guys say counterstrafing is useless is because you can deadzone your shots, BUT the caveat of doing that is that the deadzone frame is when you start a SUCCESSIVE movement, not ending one, which makes deadzoning very useful if you jiggle peek, but impossible if you just strafe with two tap (except with any weapon with a firerate above 10 like phantom, spectre, stinger, ares, odin where you can deadzone two shots!) or normal peek, and when you normal peek you benefit a lot from that shot accuracy lowered delay and stabilized crosshair from counterstrafing. What is funny tho is that true counterstrafing is both the techniques, when you true counterstrafing you're not pressing both A/D key at the same time in reality. People just got confused with Valorant.

[@justshortz512]

I've been doing this the whole time, thinking I was counter strafing. 😂 Good for me

[@sondo301_]

Lol nice gamer

[@kima0ne648]

When i counterstrafe i do not release any key. If i am moving to right and want to counterstrafe i just press A. So it's like i am pressing A and D to keep my character in position. It works for me, i even tried it out on counter strike and it felt comfortable since day one.

[@Ptoki1]

I always thought counter strafing with either pressing opposite key or letting go off the key was the same thing but ive been just letting go my entire life lol

[@sweettea4112]

As an immortal 3 consistent 350 rr player, counter strafing is extremely important. I notice that whenever I do stop the other player will absolutely shit on me, that milisecond of time that you get when you counter strafe can determine getting one tapped or one tapping them. Although I doubt it is useful in lower ranks, as the ranks climb this is definitely an important skill to learn.

[@sondo301_]

Pros don’t counter strafe.

[@JeffDays]

@@sondo301_ yes they do? OD26 attempted to start a campaign saying you don't need to counter strafe, and yay himself replied saying that you should

[@kreits7384]

@@sondo301_ cs migrants do counter-strafe, and that's completely okay.

[@alexwang9976]

@@sondo301_ That's funny because not only does someone like yay counter-strafe, zekken specifically streamed himself counter-strafing with keystrokes visible to help someone out.

[@2210nico]

Could you showcase an effective ~15 min aim routine?

[@sondo301_]

Will be my next video

[@breadsanta6414]

as a former cs player i do counterstrafe in valorant even though i know its not useful, the muscle memory from playing 8 years of csgo makes it almost impossible for me to not counterstrafe, it's a deeply deeply ingrained habbit. It's not harmful in anyway so I never learned to break that habbit in val

[@WuWaMintpicker]

for me counter strafing is easier because it's hard wired into my brain, I can't stop myself from doing it if I think about for every single gun fight, but the second I focus on the gun fight itself I'm back to counter strafing

[@MiNo6000]

Totally agree with the accuracy of shots while counterstrafing isn't high despite the acceleration is literally zero and while I start to jiggling the shots suddenly destroy enemy head , actually I tried the game when it released and it wasn't the same after I tried yesterday this game mechanics is totally difference from counter strike

[@CliveOwenNZata]

no joke, this information helped me headshot a lot!

[@mastAr0808]

1:13 u said if we don't perfectly hit counter key we'll throw off our recoil , how? If i don't hit counter key but released the key i was moving with , its same as not counter strafing , so what's diff if i counter strafe or not

[@Thea269]

It has been researched by od26 counterstrafing can give you at most 6ms on a timing window that pros never hit for example zekken was asked to show keyboard overlay by od and he let go and counterstrafed but never hit the window if it feels more natural do it if it doesnt your not gonna lose anything its useful in csgo I hit top 100 faceit and I had counterstrafing then huge difference but val nothing changes

[@adityasingh8545]

Yeah it's true it doesn't change much xd but i come from csgo and i have habit of counter strafing and i can't stop lmao underrated channel btw 👍+1 sub

[@KniteGraffiti]

i loved counter strafing in cs but trying to unlearn it in valorant cause i do think it gives you an advantage to just let go of the keys and shoot

[@henrywei5019]

As an ascendant player, I predominantly use counter-strafing(But is actually called jiggling) in my gameplay. When I'm taking fights in open with no cover, I'd be nonstop strafing left and right and shooting one bullet with guardian(I never buy vandal) between every strafe and if i have a wall as cover id be ghost peaking aka jiggle peaking with counter strafe back and forth. I do not remember that last time I stood still letting go of wasd key for more than 1 to headshot someone. If you master this movement technique, you should have impeccable movement so it's almost impossible for enemies to one tap and also be cool and when hit heads at the same time.

[@memohrustic416]

vandal is way better than guardian

[@henrywei5019]

@@memohrustic416 It's not about the gun, it's about the motion of the ocean

[@brokyyy]

Great tip, thanks!

[@movingsocks579]

I counter strafe when I'm running to be able to stop fast, but I don't counter strafe from walking.

[@Aimaxnj_ellojaja]

Tysm bro u tole us and explain what exactly we face and mistake that we all understood wrong

[@classistfr]

bro this whole time i been doing the csgo strafing i switch to this n it changed my whole skill level

[@zt0LTV]

i personally still counterstrafe i still thinks its very viable and helpful+its so ingrained into my mind

[@starlyn-mn9ew]

so all this time ive' been using the jiggling and not the counter strafe? that's incredible

[@mthink6719]

FOR ALL THE TIME I THOUGHT I WAS COUNTER-STRAFING, I WAS ACTUALLY JIGGLING LOOOOOOOL

[@qwertyuiop2725]

Both ideas explained here are counter strafing, the mechanics of it are just different in csgo and valorant, because of the game engine, csgo has momentum, and valo does not. The point of counter strafing is just to be harder to shoot at with the change in horizontal movement. Basically just taught everyone how to counter strafe correctly in valorant, but called it "jiggling". Jiggling is using the strafing mechanic (in either game) to peek an angle, but not necessarily take a duel, usually just for info. Think you just confused a quarter million people, but ig as long as they take their duels right it works lol

[@_Vishhh_]

I try to play logically but my opponent runs and guns and somehow hits headshot

[@sasoriza4433]

To much hours of csgo behind me to not counter straff and i really think that counter straff is usefull to learn how recoil works for new players. Beside, that teach some sort of self control and trigger discipline imo

[@Reno.1101]

Counter strafe mean to cut your travel velocity by half by apply extra force to other direction, thus giving you advantage on time. But velocity in valorant is so low it basically non. Valorant isn't slippery.

[@lun4tic697]

the biggest problem in ranking up is the team, you cannot win a game while your team is useless in playing as a teaam + getting lack of info and getting no kills.

[@sondo301_]

It’s tough out here my boy

[@alithium16]

honestly, your velocity stops so fast to the point where counter strafing is useless. it's just better to work on shooting while you're still

[@khensationalReviews]

i been counter strafing ever since and managed to get the highest rank in this game, it's just a habit that's hard to change.

[@sondo301_]

Yeah but I think if it works for you then why change it. This is mainly for people who didn’t come from cs

[@khensationalReviews]

@@sondo301_ yeah you're right, i think stew and tarik still counter strafes to this day, but i heard Tenz doesn't

[@sondo301_]

@@khensationalReviews yeah I think it’s bc they just switched within the last year but Tenz has been playing since beta so he got out of the habit maybe

[@karthika8668]

Counter strafing is required get back to cover while fighting if u know that u may get killed as if many enemies r there... Next thing to clear corners while slicing...

[@MrShator]

greate video ! im not a very good player but sometimes im using A/D keys to correct my aim idk 🤔what it called but ig im doing great job xd

[@sondo301_]

You are :)