This is my 2 year olds favourite video. He is obsessed by impact drivers. He is also showing an interest in right angle drills. He knows all the brands
@histguy1012 жыл бұрын
Jeez, tradies starting early these days
@paultasker97592 жыл бұрын
Awesome, It’s a good thing for a boy to be into!!
@zachyatt80462 жыл бұрын
😂Lmfaoooo, you gotta bright future kid
@dr6124 Жыл бұрын
Buy him a ball or something
@luke92995 жыл бұрын
I found a Makita impact that had been left on a building roof for 10+ years.. it had clearly seen lots of wether (Rust all over) and sure enough it worked I didn’t even have to get a new battery. The only thing I had to do was un seize the chuck and I’m still using it to this day!
@mcdo89752 жыл бұрын
and didn't even need charging ever since XD
@sodd10002 жыл бұрын
I found a makita brushless drill in a skip 2 months ago. Full of plasterboard dust. I stripped it and cleaned it and it works and I am also using it. It now is my go to drill as it is my lightest. I haven't had to charge it once since.
@visl7146 Жыл бұрын
Makitas are crap,no strength despite are same torque with some DeWalt. Not enough speed,not energy sufficient,not powerful. Gears inside like made of brass. So many models you don't know what is what,only to make noise.
@ProstetnicVogonJeltz4 жыл бұрын
Far and away the best Impact Driver "shootout" I've seen. No fluffery, no showmanship guff... just straight talking, and giving each driver what looked like a fair crack. I was interested in the DeWalt before watching. Now I'm buying the DeWalt! Like some of the other commentors, for a Grand Finale I would have liked to have seen the DeWalt finish out the screws that never got to 100%. If you still have that block of oak around, how about making that quick video?
@filipek7553 Жыл бұрын
Check Project Farm. Your mind would blow
@baptiste_boo3 жыл бұрын
I do love my Makita set, I used to be DeWalt, it aged like fine wine! Decided to try out Makita, best investment yet! Treated myself to a impact driver, drill, jigsaw and a circular saw.
@MrIcewing6 жыл бұрын
I would have loved if you used the Dewalt to drive the rest in, just to show that the wood was not "hard" or anything else was wrong.
@busaj3836 жыл бұрын
MrIcewing Heck yah!!! That would have been a great test for that Dealt. Would go out and buy the D after that no matter which other brand I already owned 😉
@patdud19796 жыл бұрын
If he still has that piece of wood with those same screw in it then you could do that in a quick update video👍
@NOBOX76 жыл бұрын
Lol , why are people not willing to see the truth ?Dewalt rules because its there goal to rule , there batteris are better also ,
@keatontempesta69636 жыл бұрын
Proud to say I have a dewalt
@hermanthenz216 жыл бұрын
I'm agree with u, he need to screw all part of that wood to prove.
@demonhuntermoonwolf2443 жыл бұрын
I have been running the same exact Bosch Impact as you are reviewing and I’m beyond impressed by it. Had many other brands and nothing that I have ever owned comes close to its sheer capabilities and sheer power.
@NOZZASLOADEDED2 жыл бұрын
Apprentice had this Bosch impact driver, we thought it was good for a while too. He dropped it off a ladder, maybe 1.5-2m high and it snapped on the handle near the battery... Having run Milwaukee and DeWalt, we were super unimpressed by the structural strength of the Bosch.
@colin-manyeates-clan5221 Жыл бұрын
Ummm according to this test Bosch is the worst... so not sure why yours is so much better??? @19.11 min
@SnarlingDog4 жыл бұрын
Based on this, I went and bought the DeWalt. Absolutely blown away by its power and battery life. How did I manage before?
@michaelandcolinspop4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Cooper I got one of Dewalt’s right angle drills on the 20v XR5 platform for some deck work. Holy crap, that thing will run a spade bit through a treated 4x4 like nothing is there. My son kept pestering me to drill a hole so I gave him a shot. It almost threw him like a sack of potatoes.
@wellbeing45414 жыл бұрын
Appicon a Dewalt is never too much
@liamjones2464 жыл бұрын
Appicon Bosch 4pc kit would be your best choice for value and power considering you’ll need a hammer drill for brick
@BayAreaMCs4 жыл бұрын
I’m a commercial carpenter and the 20v max xr impact is essentially my right hand. I’ve dropped it from five stories up and it still worked fine didn’t break anything on the tool itself just bent the crap out of the shaft I was using and battery was a little lose but that’s it. Between shear power and toughness alone, I wouldn’t buy anything else
@Baksan_Dog19884 жыл бұрын
Appicon grab the 887 with the 3 speed perfect all rounder.
@brandonspivey80202 жыл бұрын
I have an Ebauer impact driver and I love it. Really light but never has any problems . I really work it hard and I prefer it to any other I have used on jobs.
@SkillBuilder2 жыл бұрын
I have heard good reports of that tool from others.
@wallyknew2 жыл бұрын
had a Bosch for years, it's been hammered and is as good as it was when I first got it. I do a lot of unistrut construction. Used it recently to put 25mm woodbits through timber. It changed my working life.
@autonomous445 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you are mentioning material consistency. I watch a lot of tool duel videos and such but i am always thinking not only about consistency in material, but also with consistency between operators and left or right hand etc. the way screws in wood can effect the surrounding wood and so on. I think you guys on KZbin need to use plexiglass or hard plastic, something man made like those materials, something that doesn’t have such variation as wood and not porous like concrete.
@mickleblade6 жыл бұрын
I'm mighty impressed with the makita impact driver I bought 5 yrs ago. Also did an accidental drop test, 2.5m straight down onto concrete.... the battery popped off, it's still fine.
@Gravertrain6 жыл бұрын
Last test should have been a follow up with the Dewalt on all the screws that weren't driven in all the way. Bet the Dewalt company would have liked to have seen that. Thanks for the review. I'm going with the Dewalt.
@chud12905 жыл бұрын
Gravertrain Graveytrain then why the comment if you made up your mind before watching anything opposing your mind?
@SuperJohn123545 жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee wasn’t set on max look at the lights
@jasonlloyd94954 жыл бұрын
SY the dewalt would not have drove it all the way in where the makita was wood there is a hell of a lot harder where it’s dark at if u have ever split wood you will know this and I have split mine and everyone else’s share in my life
@AATreeService4 жыл бұрын
You’re right it wasn’t set in max. Sadly this guy is so rammy he doesn’t even pay attention to what he’s doing. lol lol lol plus if you would have finished the rest of the screws with the DeWalt, it would have been junk
@malcolmoxley12745 жыл бұрын
what would have been nice to see was the 100 per centers finish the screws the others left, just in case they hit a knot or metal (you never know enough metal was fired around the wars}
@garethbaus54714 жыл бұрын
Interesting point.
@JeffreyWillis8004 жыл бұрын
Need a Part 2.
@stacyharper42873 жыл бұрын
Yeah Dewault!!! Little disappointed in Hilti and Makita right now
@jodyswallow10082 жыл бұрын
On site, I burnt out a brand new Bosch impact. Gaffer wasn’t best pleased! I wasn’t even going into solid oak, just stripping out a bathroom suite. The thing was smoking.
@SkillBuilder2 жыл бұрын
I have done the same thing, I am not sure Bosch is the company it once was. Maybe too much Chinese in there.
@raymondgriffith65326 жыл бұрын
I've seen many of these test and every time they show different results.
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
I have been talking to an engineer friend of mine who has offered up a theory on why the fluid drives performed so well in this test and punched well above their weight. He says that there is a certain amount of torsion in the bolts and the longer they are the more this is the case. If you hit the head you get twisting along the shank and that doesn't produce as much movement in the thread as a more sustained pushing action. Paradoxically the extra energy is, almost, counterproductive unless it is enough to produce the torsion, and some, which is what the DeWalt and Metabo did. He went on to say that there is the torsion moment of inertia and the polar moment. I don't pretend to understand this but I like the idea that sometimes the little guy wins the fight. Cleary all these bolts are struggling at the point where they run out of thread. As I said the force to overcome this is huge and we did snap the head of a bolt trying to drive it further with the DeWalt. Why did the video editor drop that clip?
@evanarachikavitz68196 жыл бұрын
this is the idea behind the newer impact "flex bits"
@upas816 жыл бұрын
Hi was right. Thats why its not good compare fastest mode. Because its diffrent torque. Same with drill there are 2speeds 1 for 70nM 2 for 50nm. Speed 2less torque but faster work. When you use blue. Mode. Its possible that its more speed and less torque. Ned to see in manual. What speed on what torque working.
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
The way an impact driver works is that the faster the hammer hits the anvil in rotation the more torque you get. It is like hitting a spanner with a hammer to tighten a nut. A drill works in a completely different way and the torque is in the gearbox and motor combination.
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I will give then a try and see what happens
@upas816 жыл бұрын
What are you saying ok. Thats what told to us its true. But i got on my own with that. Many times. I will tel l you when its filed. Take screw driver with 70nm. Torque. And impact 180nm. Then drill in to concrete hole 5.5 and use screws (special screw drill straight to concrete)with T20 or T25 head. 20 cm long. You will see how torque 180 nm cant move screw in to concrete. And screw driver can do it with 50 nm. In my view point as more faster impact realise power, the les torque it reaching to turn screw. To understand that use Ridgid oil Pulse impact. You will feel the diferent on your hand. Impact just hamering. Oil pulse more turning. www.familyhandyman.com/masonry/concrete-repair/drilling-concrete-and-installing-fasteners/view-all/
@stenhouse85696 жыл бұрын
Would like to see workzone/Parkside power tools reviewed next to these
@bamagolds5 жыл бұрын
I have a Makita impact for at least 2 years now. It has done all my jobs well so far. I would like to have adjustable torque because some jobs, its too much and it is very loud. I have Dewalt 20V batteries, so I I bought the Dewalt DCF887 new on eBay for $80. We'll see how it holds up.
@avancalledrupert51304 жыл бұрын
Everything makita feels like it grew in your hand. That for me is enough. Every now and then a brand outperforms them in a certain way on a certain product. But then the year after they allways drop something to top that. Never break just a joy to use.
@motsigman6 жыл бұрын
had at least four of these, Makita every time for me
@marnoi87546 жыл бұрын
You wanna hear a joke? Panasonic power tools
@thechad78036 жыл бұрын
Mar NOi They’re like 3 times the price of the others also. Don’t have any idea how they sale any of them
@Dimalf6 жыл бұрын
No Ingersoll Rand either, they have 20v max line too
@jpk27426 жыл бұрын
The impact Panasonic is brilliant I will never get rid of mine! It’s about 5 years old and I still beat everyone on site with speed.
@MadMetalShop6 жыл бұрын
@@jpk2742 the video shows otherwise bud.
@jpk27426 жыл бұрын
MadMetalManiac74 maybe it does but we only did screw in tests which mine beat them all. I don’t really use impacts anymore though. Festool is the only way.
@TheWaxChainFanClub4 жыл бұрын
"It likes the one position... I know other people like that..." good on you, Roger!
@JMackyD184 жыл бұрын
Lol
@macduff1964a4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao 🤣
@joycinhaborges26186 жыл бұрын
Got hit in the head with an impact driver. Fell off my damn shelf, was just sitting there and suddenly Bosch!
@kamryn74965 жыл бұрын
Did it knock some sense into u?
@karmalife93695 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@MrRichard570004 жыл бұрын
did it get the screw in all the way?
@ironore10004 жыл бұрын
Ur such a tool👏
@reaper0606702 жыл бұрын
Hey Roge mate.. I asked u to do a complete rundown on this new power tool company to the market?? The MacAllister range of power tools. I know they're the cheapest of the cheap but a lot of people wouldn't have the money to buy the big names in this field. They're DIYer's who need to get value for money and probably on ly use these tools once or twice a year and don't see the value in spending huge sums of money on a DEWALT, BOSCH or even Black & Decker tools.. I notice Black & Decker don't make 2 many appearances on ur show at all.. I would love to hear ur thoughts on all of the MacAllister range tbf Roge mate.. I think it would be great for all those people who buy them. U could point out any flaws and help the brand get better bcos they've got some glaring issues imho and I'm no expert mate.. Thanks for ur time Roge mate and best of luck to ya with all future content
@neilrobinson6403 жыл бұрын
Old video I know but still worth a comment, I use the dewalt 887 and it’s a great tool, well balanced with the best grip in my opinion, but driving 180mm timber coach screws it struggles after 3 or 4, not surprising as it’s not built for that sort of graft, so I have got the metabo 400 1/2” wrench and a 1/2” - 1/4” Adapter and it drives all day no issue, not as comfortable as the dewalt but for proper heavy duty the metabo is a winner
@storegga4 жыл бұрын
Surely the wood especially oak has different density depending where about in the grain you're drilling too.
@gjjakobsen4 жыл бұрын
Given the inconsistent density of wood from spot to spot, it may be nice to drive fasteners through something else next time. Perhaps 6 or 8 engineered deck boards sandwiched together? It would also be interesting to take the highest torque DeWalt and finish the rest of those lag screws that the others failed to drive. Thanks for posting a most interesting match up. Looking forward to more. Cheers!
@colskidfarmac3 жыл бұрын
Hilti impact is the driver I use daily. Had the makita and the battery didnt have the staying strength, dewalt I found was temperamental. Although I used to be a makita die hard and they used to fill my van.. ...just found hilti tools are more durable. Vids are great 👍
@rodlaz19842 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't mind seeing some of Screwfix Macallister in these
@johnf33263 жыл бұрын
I have 4 classic Honda motorbikes and couldn't get some screws out. My mate came with his impact drill and got them out no problem. I decided to get the cheapest one I could, £40 from Wickes. Its one of the best tools I ever purchased. Gets screws in and out so much easier and better than with a screwdriver or drill and bit. Good too stuck nuts with adapter.
@rudolfrednose73515 жыл бұрын
I’m a DeWalt user myself, although I had tools of most brands through the years. What I noticed with DeWalt though is that the housing has a tendency to split lenghtwise.
@rudolfrednose73515 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are too strong for their own good?
@canadiantoque2294 жыл бұрын
I am a mill wright and i have had the same thing happen in my exp i find milwaukee m18 line to last the longest for me
@RCTPatriot754 жыл бұрын
I've had several Dewalt housings crack
@ماتوفقيالابالله4 жыл бұрын
@@rudolfrednose7351 kam auf den Boden
@AATreeService4 жыл бұрын
I sure with ya there. My company has roughly 500 Milwaukee tools. Not only do they last through major abuse but they always stand behind warranty. We had DeWalt, not a chance do they last as long. I’m not talking alot a couple tools U guys have have in your garage. I’m talking hundreds and hundred for years and years
@nobotshere83644 жыл бұрын
Having subsequently watched this and unsure whether to go Dewalt, Bosch or Makita I’m well happy I went Dewalt ... :)
@galvanizedgnome4 жыл бұрын
You should have gone with Mafell
@kvpestcontrol4 жыл бұрын
I loved Bradley Walsh on the Chase but he excels presenting this.
@leehowson440 Жыл бұрын
Why did the chicken cross the road? So Roger could put stockings on its legs 😂
@bdlit7165 Жыл бұрын
I'm planning to get my first set of professional cordless tools. That's my reason to watch. Thank you
@priestleyharker40466 жыл бұрын
I know one thing. My makita is 6 years old and still going strong. I'm a Carpenter and have put it through the ringer. Now it's not as powerful as some of the other brands but not less enough to make a difference. Driving screws is one thing but i want my tools to last and these tests can't show that. I've seen them all come on the job and go but my makita impact driver is still going hard. I think thats far more important
@Billy_Darley6 жыл бұрын
time and money i suppose. money saved on tools without any major difference in time to complete a job.
@lou38246 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same for me with the makita. I've been using mine, without any trouble at all, for years. I've seen dozens of guys show up with new impacts on jobsites only to be replaced by something else fairly quick. Dewalt is known to work great when new, but they seem to develop the most problems too. I'll take the reliability of the Makita...
@moysesgaray84106 жыл бұрын
I love my Makita but the other day I was using it to drive screws into drywall and it started smoking on me which is the reason why I even started watching this video. I'm so surprised and was shocked to see that happened but I always really loved my Makita and am taking second thoughts about it. Was it the Makita or would they all have done the same thing? I gave it a rest and it still worked fine after but my heart dropped when I noticed that happening!
@priestleyharker40465 жыл бұрын
@@moysesgaray8410 I've put mine through hell and never had an issue. I think yours may have just been a rare case. As long as it was the trade quality makita not the generic DIY. Their trade tools are awesome.
@priestleyharker40465 жыл бұрын
@Jay Bee the tafe i went to to get my trade used dewalt, they had a deal with the company. My teachers and the students hated them. They were always getting replaced or broken. A lot of us used our own tools instead as they were no good. They may be better these days but it will take a long time for me to forget that. I don't care about the minor power bonus or battery life. I care about reliability and longevity
@robert.jennings-young50695 жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting to see if any of the drills that completed the task would also have driven in those that failed, this would also show whether that spot had a knot or other obstruction.
@catmonkey68262 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@geoh77775 жыл бұрын
It is easy to see that where the wood is marked "BOS," the oak has darker and denser figure. 15:03 The screw being driven by the Hitachi quickly swings over to an inclined angle, seeming to avoid denser, to seek weaker wood. Also, the "blowback" 15:27 is suspicious, both because it implies a denser wood that doesn't allow compressed gases (e.g. air, water vapor) to penetrate into the wood away from the hole, and that hole was the only hole to display that behavior (of the holes where the screw was backed out). It is clear that the idea that a long chunk of oak will not have widely varying local properties is not tenable.
@fastestoneliner2 жыл бұрын
The Bosch Pro tools are quite affordable here in Germany. They were the first to offer battery vaxes. I have an older model impact driver. The quick release mech has jammed many times. I was planning to expand further into this brand. Now I’m not so sure.
@thebitefight26013 жыл бұрын
On the job site we have a few brands and everyone has fell in love with the Bosch hands down after using it for a few days it’s flat out the best.
@sniperlif35 жыл бұрын
Where is the Ryobi brand? I almost always see it in the top 5 for electric tools, especially impacts. Just curious.
@waynemongo5 жыл бұрын
Ryobi don't seem to market to the trade in the UK very much. They go for the DIY market more so you don't see them on site much. Nice cordless tools though...
@Lyndalewinder4 жыл бұрын
Ryobi and Milwauke are made by the same company and in my opinion Ryobi are on a par with many of these other so called pro tools - certainly better than Bosch!
@dragogranic81715 жыл бұрын
you could drive those screws that hitachi couldn't with dewalt just to show how much more power dewalt has
@bondarkenergy4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@BigAl42446 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee should have been on par with Dewalt if you used the model that competes with the dewalt brushless impact drivers such as the 887. I'm a dewalt guy and I know Milwaukee is pretty Damn good.
@goworlduk9 ай бұрын
I have the same bosch and milwaukee impact drills. Both are great and I am surprised with the result, must have had an additional factor that prevented the bosch from working well!
@jimbob61422 жыл бұрын
I have to say there is a great deal of difference between one part of the same peace of Oak to another having delt with alot of Oak over the years. I don't have a bias because my impact driver is Einhall
@mykemajewski63714 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time believing Bosch did that bad. I actually switched to Bosch from my dewalt set I had. And in my personal experience the Bosch out preformed dewalt. The 4ah battery for Bosch lasted twice as long as the dewalt 5ah battery as well. Side note, after 3 years both of the Bosch batteries are as strong as the day I bought them. My coworker has replaced 4 batteries since that time. Food for thought.
@shockwavemikey644 жыл бұрын
It is indeed to the old 18650 batteries they used. The new procore 21700 are absolute monsters. I drive 8" timberlok lag screws into oak rough boards to tie in the new replaced wall section to the old frame and my freak drove one through the timber board. The threads of the timberlok were protruding from the rough lumber. It was a no, no, but I wanted to know.
@shockwavemikey644 жыл бұрын
I routinely drive the 6" grk rss screws and the freak just won't stop driving them until I release the trigger.
@jimbrown24954 жыл бұрын
I have every ty0e of battery they have released, including the wireless charging and I have never had one go down. Some are over a decade old and I am a general contractor in Northern Canada. Very good tools in difficult circumstances, that's why I keep buying them
@thebitefight26013 жыл бұрын
Same hated my dewalts got Bosch for the same reason better batteries and the tools do not die my two employees have dewalt and Milwaukee and they have to have 2x the batteries to finish the work day, depends on what we are hammering in depends on what ones better I can drive in tapcons they can’t but theirs perform better in wood, that also have had to replace theirs and I have not so to each his own.
@jamarjackson53676 жыл бұрын
Dewalt is all I buy ... Never let's me down and they make durable tools that can take a beating
@Jay-ip4jn4 жыл бұрын
Owned 3 dewalt drill in my life all have failed within 6months to a year. I have had a Milwaukee brushless now for almost 2 years it's still working almost like day 1.
@nathancook52714 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee is a very good tool!!
@fakenews47344 жыл бұрын
Wow nice anecdotal info. I've had several Milwaukee's fail within 3 weeks, but I've had the same DeWalts since the 50s.
@tilerman5 жыл бұрын
Expect to be shot down a bit but here goes! 12 years ago my van got broken into and all tools gone. I was really short of cash and needed some power tools so i could work. I went and got an Erbauer impact driver from Screwfix. That tool is still going strong and still piles the screws in almost daily. Batteries still perfect and i can feel no wear at all on the tool itself. Yes its heavy and mine looks like its been though 3 world war's but i just cannot knock it.
@kendaldueck59974 жыл бұрын
Makita all day! I work on a small crew that has 3 makitas that are 8-10 years old! We don’t use them much anymore but they still work fine!
@richardmarsh13323 жыл бұрын
Whistle this comparison was great, I found myself wondering if certain area's of that oak timber might have been a lot tougher to get through than others. Once the screws stalled with the weaker models it would have been a real clincher at the end to have gone back with say the Dewalt to see if it powered the screw up to the hilt with ease. Well done Roger.
@catmonkey68262 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's bol**cks really, you hit a knot you're going no where with anything of that size.
@catmonkey68262 жыл бұрын
Try that Hitachi back near the first area. What a croc!
@jodyswallow10082 жыл бұрын
Ask any reasonably competent chippy and they will tell you wood has all sorts of qwerks, knots and soft spots. Good question.
@JayKay-ht8rg6 жыл бұрын
6:16 “So? Why are we testing ‘em..??” “We’re testing em COZ WE LOVE TESTING TOOLS!” Lol!! Perfect answer!!
@scroopynooperz90513 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to test sh!t xD otherwise all you have to go on is the marketing BS of a company that is benefiting from selling you something. Independent testing is very necessary
@JayKay-ht8rg3 жыл бұрын
@@scroopynooperz9051 of course. I completely agree. Plus the bonus of getting to buy more tools! Tools to a bloke is like make up to a woman! Lol
@ronaljimenez8204 жыл бұрын
I can't believe bosch be the last I got bosch tool from 11 years I got and the old battery still working
@thebitefight26013 жыл бұрын
I find it odd my two year old Bosch impact has been out preforming the counterparts on job sites running in tap cons and I’m the only one that’s yet to replace mine.
@shadowhunter97136 жыл бұрын
It's the platform you run and personal preference that matters most of all. I run a surge because I like how quiet it is. Installed rear supports for drawer slides in a narrow cabinet yesterday and there was no harsh noise echoing to my ears. Not a big deal if you don't use one all the time though. But I do.
@dodgeysolenoid55676 жыл бұрын
Could you try the drivers that past, on the screws that failed to be driven in? Just to check that those screws haven't hit any area of high resistance.
@nic_the_aged_woodworker5 жыл бұрын
When I was working as a kitchen fitter I loved my 10.8v DeWalt, enough grunt to do everything unwanted plus light weight so no tired arms. My original 14v DeWalt, now 15 years old are still going strong, though I am on a new set of batteries
@davidurwin44996 жыл бұрын
Did you try drilling in the same screw that was sticking out the most with the best impact driver, to give it a fare test, because the oak is harder and more dense in different areas of the length of the beam.
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
We did try different parts of that oak, we're working on new tests and better methods David.
@coolguysaswell6 жыл бұрын
I agree this opinion
@SL-ev8jv6 жыл бұрын
What Iwas thinking too, the part where hitachi was driving looks especially hard from the color of the wood.
@suazzz30706 жыл бұрын
I worked construction all my life and for price and performance and I love Milwaukee
@trentcunningham56274 жыл бұрын
My. DeWalt set was stolen and I needed a new one. I went to the local lumber yard and hardware store. They had a sale going on the Milwaukee still set so I went ahead and bought it. I'm glad I did because now I won't buy anything but Milwaukee....
@kylehardman91354 жыл бұрын
@@trentcunningham5627 Ryobi is now made by Milwaukee and really isn't bad for cost
@jeffreynolds47025 жыл бұрын
I think your protocols are great. All of us who are fanboys want to see our brand win on paper, but different tools excel at different applications. The truth that people don't want to admit is that you don't know how much you'll like a tool until you use it- and the better you like it, the more effectively yoy use it. I use my Bosch impact- which you're dead right about- more effectively than other guys use better drivers because I enjoy using it and mind the tool's needs to the end of getting the best results I can. Thank you for doing all this for us!
@SkillBuilder5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff i am the first to admit this test was problematic. We will have another go at some point but looking at other tests I am not sure the result will be that different. Makita and DeWalt seem fairly safe bets. Having said that most impact drivers do the job for day to day applications.
@vincentdavis34532 жыл бұрын
You should have included Parkside impact driver, cheaper on price as well on performance.
@jasongavinbartram5 жыл бұрын
I've got all Milwaukee the 18v combi drill is an absolute beast, impact is great, I personally think they are the best that or hilti
@davesheppard87975 жыл бұрын
I have both....The Hilti is a dream. Not as powerful as my Gen3 but it is a beautiful machine!
@teknicol5 жыл бұрын
Just to prove the area around the Bosch and Makita had no knots the Dewalt should have proved it could drive the unfinished screws into the wood, but that simple proof was not done? Why not?
@innatelyacidic69885 жыл бұрын
I wondered the same thing
@PapaBearCustomKydex20215 жыл бұрын
Very impartial testing, much appreciated!
@VLM035 жыл бұрын
SHILL! 🤣
@martylucas85575 жыл бұрын
Angel of War, not really... had it really been an impartial test they would’ve picked the Milwaukee Gen 3 Impact to compete vs the Milwaukee Surge. Do you know why? Because the Surge is a hydraulic/pulse driver. It has substantially lower ROM’s and IPM’s the the Gen 3. It’s only because the Milwaukee Surge is an awesome tool that it was able to drive the screw through the oak, smoking the Makita hydraulic offering. But really the bottom line is that it wasn’t an apples to apples test.
@diencohoachay4 жыл бұрын
Best Impact wrench 1200Nm kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIi2k4KHq8Slaq8
@stastsimmerman28784 жыл бұрын
From my point of view, this first and single excellent review with real results and differences between Impact Drivers. First of all thank you very much! Second thing... very interested what realy happened with Impact Drivers on the market now... becouse this review is 2 years old... I am realy will be happy to see new tested results with new modelst of this year...
@jedics14 жыл бұрын
Sitting here looking at my Dewalt DCD785-XE that I have given an absolute beating on and off over the last 5 years drilling steel, 6mm alloy and using 50mm hole saws sometimes as well. It did it all with the two 1.5ah batteries and charger that came with it and only just recently is one of the batteries starting to have a short life. I wouldn't even bother getting the bigger batteries as they last plenty long enough and the other one will be charged long before the one your using runs out. Its pretty small and light and I could not possibly ask for more from a $300 kit. Unless your using it for a full time job no one will need more.
@kundetjenesten5 жыл бұрын
Watching this with automated subtitles is just hilarious: "Where's my penguins?" "That's the meal walking" 🤣
@archechme4 жыл бұрын
9:38 - "on the side they give you the sex group"
@kundetjenesten4 жыл бұрын
@@archechme Now THAT is a good salespitch!
@justinchurch23666 жыл бұрын
Oh lord...a Milwaukee surge????? Wrong impact compared to the rest. Shaking my head.
@vojnikjna306 жыл бұрын
Still performed very good
@suazzz30706 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I said
@WoobAu6 жыл бұрын
Same for the Bosch, their 1/2" socket/impact drivers are terrible compared to the others in their range
@williamhoudersheldt70766 жыл бұрын
@121bham If your not sure what he is referring to then, WHY THE HELL DID YOU COMMENT!
@michamucha33136 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you used "A" mode in Makita DTD170 insted of "T" which is supposed be use for different purposes...Please try again with "A" mode 3 speed and you will be suprised. Thsnk you
@jamesadams71316 жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@nevyn60716 жыл бұрын
I wonder about myself. I've seen my 148 kick all comers so far. Same specs as the 170
@rudygibson35276 жыл бұрын
Yes!! This Makita is fantastic,no problème on the good mode!
@MrVTEC5555 жыл бұрын
Turn it onto A, it'd be the top! Makita is the best hands down.
@prodanesti4 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend the top of the line from Makita? I want to buy one like this, but I don't know to much. Thanks.
@redrhino30415 жыл бұрын
As a carpenter working with hard Australian timbers, I’ve burnt out makita Panasonic, Milwaukee and the latest dewalt impact driver, at moment I use a Hilti and it’s light and powerful. Note thou Milwaukee is brushless and red lithium and lasted 6 months The panosonic lasted a year Dewalt lasted two years Makita has for 4 years never died but the batteries just stop working randomly. Now Hilti is a year in no issues but it’s early days
@flyrc886 жыл бұрын
Been running 12v Dewalt for 13 years no problem. For me modulation is the true test of an Impact driver. How slow can it go without wrecking your screw head or work. They can all slam screws in rapidly but not all can do it slowly...
@louisfkoorts55906 жыл бұрын
Goodness!!! My little 9.6volt AEG drill/driver of about 15 years ago would snap bolts, rather than "give up"! I just am amazed at these weak results in general!
@Anthony_Spilotro4 жыл бұрын
Lmao!!
@danielholdsworth21214 жыл бұрын
The best thing about this presentation is that we are told very quickly at the beginning which one is coming out on top so you don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want to, but I did.
@labourisnotinvain6 жыл бұрын
does it have all the same aaH battery capacity?
@Johnbro83 жыл бұрын
Lucky for me, purchased the Dewalt before seeing this trial, (I did already have the18v drill, but needed an impact driver) I’m not disappointed with my purchase. Thanks for sharing Roger
@Wavelover332 жыл бұрын
I’m a carpenter - Makita for me. Reliable/ergonomical/good batteries/range of quality tools. -30 to 40 , rain and snow. Makita/dewalt and Milwaukee are basically any tradesmans choice of tools. Plumbers like ridgid.
@carpenterjonathan6 жыл бұрын
Would of been nice to look at the build quality, ergonomics etc. I always look for quality when buying tools.
@isnogood31405 жыл бұрын
Why is the Einhell TE-CW 18 Li not included ?!
@fortzosu094 жыл бұрын
I recommend you to use erbauer 160 Nm a truly high-performance and powerful machine
@benh12164 жыл бұрын
@@fortzosu09 I also own the Erbauer! Brilliant budget impact driver! I haven't tried Einhell but I heard they are not too bad either for the price!
@jd9576 жыл бұрын
Best review, actually most useful of all the reviews I've seen.
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
Thanks J D - What kind of showdown/review would you like to see next?
@williamhoudersheldt70766 жыл бұрын
At 5:22 you have 9 setting on your table but only listed 8 in the description. What is the name of the one second from my left (your right)? Where is the Porter Cable? On your oak torque test 2 of them (I believe the Panasonic and Hitachi) had the same result leaving 45mm out of wood, so how can the Panasonic be 63% and the Hitachi be 50% in your summary?
@SkylerKing5 жыл бұрын
I know I'm over a year late to this party, but have you considered testing them in thick steel? I only ask because that is a test that I was introduced to, today, when I bought a new impact driver. I live in Taiwan, and there are several local companies that make some pretty impressive, heavy duty tools (used for commercial purposes, on construction sites, etc). Anyway, I was looking at a locally made impact driver, today, that was boasting some good specs; brushless, 20v lithium ion, and listed as having 260 foot-pounds of torque (350n.m./3,100 inch-pounds). They actually highly encouraged me to test the tool. They handed me the display model (so it has been used a lot) with the battery that was already in it (not fully charged) and a self-tapping metal screw. They walked me over to a section of steel I-beam which was about 10mm thick and told me to drive the screw in. Not to drill a hole with a drill bit... Not to drive the screw into a pilot hole... To drive the self-tapping screw into the 10mm thick steel i-beam wherever I wanted. Not only did it work, but it did so pretty damn fast. It didn't stop or even hesitate at any point, at all. That was enough to sell me on it. I bought it on the spot. I did some googling when i got home to see how the specs compare to the impact drivers from DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita, etc (since I am more familiar with those brands) and, according to the spec sheets, none of those brands even come close to the same specs. I decided to search for some tests in hopes of seeing a similar test performed, but, no luck so far. Food for thought.
@SkillBuilder5 жыл бұрын
Hi Styler That is a great idea and we will do it when we update the test. Thanks for taking the trouble to write to us. We need some good test methods for these tools.
@annespacedroid4 жыл бұрын
Now, just in case we're hitting something.... I'll drive it in with the Dewalt!!!
@abdurrahmanicoz65145 жыл бұрын
The screwdriving machine you use in Milwaukee is using the M18 FID instead of screwing you are making the wrong application.
@waynesmith65226 жыл бұрын
isnt the Metabo a impact wrench not a impact driver
@warrenmichael9186 жыл бұрын
yes, that is why he told us all about it in the video ! He went on about it for a few minutes explaining why it was being thrown in the test, but i am just someone who watched as well as listened to the video before commenting on it ! LOL
@nzzenith6 жыл бұрын
Some have eyes but no ears.
@flatearth37505 жыл бұрын
And metabo is actually made by Hitachi
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Underground Arms incorrect
@Swaffercation5 жыл бұрын
Nope, although Hitachi brought Metabo a few years back then a couple years on investment firm KKR purchased the power tool division of Hitachi, Hikoki/MetaboHPT (formally Hitachi) and Metabo are still independent manufactures.
@drew223 жыл бұрын
I own the DeWalt in the video. I got it cheap from a buddy that’s why I went with it for HVAC installation. It’s just what the other guys used on the job site and it got the job done for them so it’s what I went with.
@davesheppard87975 жыл бұрын
The Hilti has 195Nm of torque and the Hitachi has 207Nm of torque, yet the Hilti drove the screw right home. The Hilti SF6H a 22 combi has only 80Nm of torque but it feels like a lot more. It isn't that far behind my Milwaukee gen2 combi which is supposed to have er...I think 135Nm of torque!!! I love both the Hilti combi and impact!!
@SkillBuilder5 жыл бұрын
The method of measuring torque on impact drivers is not standardised. Some people use a deep socket and run a nut up a greased thread at max speed and then measure the breakout torque. It is a bit like running a car at a brick wall and measuring the hole it made. It is little wonder that the tools feel different in use. We tried to do a test in a material that people understand but we accept that it might not be a uniform hardness.
@davesheppard87975 жыл бұрын
@@SkillBuilder yes,.....It's like your review of the Hilti SF6H a 22. You basically said that it was only 80Nm of torque but seemed more. My SF6H seems very good for 80Nm. I loved the individual and group tests. I run Hilti and Milwaukee impacts and combi's. I also have the TE6 a 22 hammer drill that is amazing. Many thanks for the great reviews Roger!!
It is not about finding the strongest it is about what suits you.
@danielmanevski4725 жыл бұрын
Exactly.... DEWALT 100% all day long
@Farmall4505 жыл бұрын
And still getting smoked by DeWalt
@VLM035 жыл бұрын
@ so they can afford bribes
5 жыл бұрын
@@VLM03 More likely: Metabo is NOT made in China, India, or Mexico....?
@laionemeihetahikoulakanate95155 жыл бұрын
I use Hitachi on metal steel and it work perfectly.
@DarkFilmDirector4 жыл бұрын
Hitachi aka Metabo HPT is perfectly good tool brand.
@niceguy68374 жыл бұрын
Ya good but not DeWalt
@mattjudd12396 жыл бұрын
I've been on the Hitachi battery platform for a few years now and cannot fault them however it does appear that they are always claiming to be the 'best in class' yet never really performing in these tests! Seen a lot of negative comments about Hitachi of late and can't see how making big claims and not being able to match them will help the image! Shame as for the price they are good tools
@alphaclean33646 жыл бұрын
Matthew Judd Their battery jailers are pretty boss though. I'm not big on battery tools but I run Hitachi just cause of the nailers, and the triple hammer driver is pretty good too. Everything else I use corded tools in a mix of brands. Nobody makes the best of everything, unfortunately. Ok, maybe Hilti does.
@smyteyouall82566 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the impact he's using isn't faulty. Only reason I say this is I've driven larger screws into hardwood with the triple hammer and although it didn't like it, it buried them.
@ryantetai66966 жыл бұрын
luke marcus-embleton i think he does not like hitachi i remember him saying hitachi sent him a drill that was not factory bet if it was a milwaukee or dewalt it wouldnt of been questioned
@nawazishali96176 жыл бұрын
can these battery tools used in drilling the wall of bricks. can they use only for single house where we may need once in three In three month time ? please guide me
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
That is nonsense. We just did the test without fear of favour. I have no skin in the game. I have nothing against Hitachi, even though they are now deceased.
@zachm7453 жыл бұрын
My contractor has been in construction for 35 years and he always goes with, Milwaukee. I really do like the battery meter on the Milwaukee’s
@jerrycipro40465 жыл бұрын
Just bought a huge set of DeWalt FlexVolt 60v tools. Got the cordless mitre saw, reciprocating saw and dremal/ skill saw. Honestly the flex volt 60’s are godly. They shift power down automatically on the huge batteries so you can use the huge 60 volt batteries on the 20 volt dewalt cordless drills. I swear putting one of the huge 60 volt batteries on the dewalt impact makes it even a bit stronger.
@simonhenhoeffer89346 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see rigid in this video. I have bosch and rigid and I honestly prefer most rigid tools over bosch. I have the bosch impact in this video and the regular rigid impact. The bosch is slightly better but the hammer drill in rigid is alot better than the bosch. I also would have prefered to see all the batterys to be all the same ah rating because it makes a significant difference.
@simonhenhoeffer89346 жыл бұрын
And btw rigid is significantly cheaper where i am in ontario than dewalt bosch makita and definetly hilti
@simonhenhoeffer89346 жыл бұрын
Ross Male ive seen aeg online before. It does look alot like rigid but its a lot more expensive. Is it for sure the same tool?
@simonhenhoeffer89346 жыл бұрын
Ross Male rigid hare has to have at least 20-30 different cordless tools. I got a 5 piece brushless set from them for 599 canadian pescos. My bosch set ( not brushless) was 700 4 years ago.
@SkillBuilder6 жыл бұрын
Ontario! we will buy our drills from there in future. We need to find out where the cheapest place to buy power tools is. Rigid is owned by TTI who own Ryobi and AEG and the chose to sell Rigid in North America.
@RosskillbaneC5 жыл бұрын
Would you use same amp batteries? For same power?
@JASONXMARIELA4 жыл бұрын
Luckily we are in 2020 and we've had battery adapters for quite some time now. Run any tool with any battery. 😁😁
@ForgottenGamesAndMods4 жыл бұрын
No worries, the manufacturers will adapt and continue to scam us into buying more batteries when unnecessary.
@JASONXMARIELA4 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenGamesAndMods oh yeah! I'm sure they will add some type of security chip to the batteries so they won't work
@nunyabidnesss5 жыл бұрын
A couple seconds of speed or a hair extra power is nice and all, but you have to balance it against noise, feel, and battery efficiency. And when it comes to those, the Makita oil drive is the clear choice. It's feather light, it's super quiet, it lasts forever, and the battery efficiency can't be beat
@thebuff16113 жыл бұрын
I've also watched the Dewalt 887 catch fire on VCG tool Test Raw
@lengthmuldoon4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding the half inch drive metabo I've noticed half inch drive impact drivers are considerably cheaper than quarter inch drives even when you add in the cost of the adaptor so that's my option
@broo_shs6 жыл бұрын
i must ask did you use moist meter before drill in
@marywangerin90606 жыл бұрын
Bosch the best, I just love the brand, and so far I have a lot of Bosch tools, they are all good so far!
@casianreport33185 жыл бұрын
yea, we see in the video : ))))) last place
@endgovernmentextremism3 жыл бұрын
I built a sizeable project with 4 and 6 inch deck screws and the DeWalt made them all feel like driving a 2 or 3 inch.
@stevenarseneault19725 жыл бұрын
I got that DeWalt DCD791 driver and a DCF887 impact for a christmas present. I think I'm going to like them a lot.