Imperator: Rome - Typical Paradox (Review)

[@kaan3525]

"long term dlc investment fund" no truer words have ever been spoken

[@minderbart1]

better than a new game every year

[@samurai90x]

i mean to be fair, i'm not gonna defend imperator. however i've said to a lot of people repeatedly, with paradox games if you're into them, you generally put thousands of hours in, so eu4 costs about 200 bux for all the dlc, give or take, but that's only slightly less than 4 brand new ps4 games, and you get THOUSANDS of hours of gameplay, so i really people would stop acting like dlc from paradox adds nothing or isn't worth the money, or in the worst case think they should have added all the content games like ck2 or eu4 have gotten over the years for free. i think we wouldn't have a game company making the niche games we all know and love if that were the case, that being said, i hate imperator in it's current state, it needs a lot of work, and reworks.

[@doomsaier1]

@@samurai90x this. i see a lot of people whining about the prices of dlcs and how often they come out. the same time i see those same people post screenshots of their steam hour counters into the 2-3000s. 200$ for litteraly 17 weeks of continous gametime of entertainment is not a bad bargain.

[@Incognito-vc9wj]

FACTS

[@AvidanTheExpositor]

@@minderbart1 annnd imperators gone. You shills need to an hero

[@hotski4trotski995]

They're probably intentionally leaving features out to sell as dlc.

[@bluebear3812]

Probably?

[@DemonlordHatty]

Honestly. So disappointed. Every religion, culture, everything is virtually the same. Like 5 countries with actual flavor. Sad days.

[@RaSunTheThird]

In first patch ck2 you could only play christians, you are comparing games with years of development to a newly releasd. Its like comparing a child to a senior

[@BlackGateofMordor]

@@RaSunTheThird Christians in CK2 at release still gave you a massive chunk of the map to use, and lots of varied and interesting places. Ireland is very different to the HRE.

[@RaSunTheThird]

@@BlackGateofMordor Same is true for imperator, Varied and diffrent is subjective. You have three diffrent goverment forms in imperator. In Ck2 you hade one. And massive chunk of the map is playble in imperator aswell so dont see how that is an argument. Since in Ck2 you were locked out of playing half the map and in imperator all of the map is unlocked.

[@davo_]

i rate 0/10 game has no finnland in it 👊😤 SUOMI PERKELE

[@narudesucks6149]

More like potato land

[@deadlyduck11]

Good reason, finns make good stainless steel pipes and welders 💪💪💪💪😎🔨

[@felipewerner6670]

@Byte From Copper sounds a bit gay

[@Zurich-xx9yt]

So... 11/10 with this mod that adds Finland? steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1725518471

[@stamasd8500]

No Brazil either huehuehuehuehue Solution? Make Finland. :D

[@bruhbruh4329]

Paradox has no real competition, that's why they keep thinking this works.

[@braincoolo9399]

Civ is the only competition with it

[@princekyros]

@@braincoolo9399 Civ is not grand strategy. It's a 4X game

[@braincoolo9399]

@@princekyros ik, but when it comes to all strategy genres the only real competition is between paradox and 2K

[@unknowndane4754]

I will join in on criticizing them for these kind of miss steps but I do still prefer to put my money into supporting Paradox than most other games I see currently. As you stated when it comes to strategy games there aren't really any that can measure up to Paradox in the same way

[@zenatti364]

You also have creative assembley with total war

[@neddo9355]

yes davo, just waiting for another $14.99 dlc

[@stamasd8500]

It'll be good by the 4th or 5th DLC. That's standard for Paradox. Why pay $40 for a game when you can pay $160?

[@12halo3]

Can we just make decisions that have consequences instead of burning mana to do anything

[@hyperion3145]

That’d be nice. Maybe actually change the course of history instead of creating modern art on a map and swapping stats around.

[@SJ-xb7lg]

@Me King Tiger anything is possible buddy

[@RedBaronFlyer]

Imperator is in a rough spot that I don't think it can fix without a significant overhaul. CK2 players will be disappointed that the characters are mostly glorified stat modifiers. EU4 players will be disappointed by the lack of trade route management, diplomacy, and state management. Vic 2 players will be disappointed by the barebones pop mechanics.

[@AmokCanuck]

When you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing noone.

[@arturturkevych3816]

That is very true. They took cool features from those games, but didn't think how they would work and didn't combine them well.

[@moreish7193]

As a player of all 3 I’m just disappointed

[@thebrutusmars]

It feels like they wanted us to think they’re taking all these great features from these games & then they do it just on surface level.

[@jackgerig8910]

You speak as though you can't correct all 3

[@thnkng]

Imagine paradox as a doctor PHDox: I've fixed your leg Patient: But doc, it's limp, and can't move! PHDox: It'll be fine with some more appointments paid for over a few y Shit paradox *is* a doctor

[@MrStump]

No wooper joke, im sad

[@ds2sofs]

This video was a bit shallow. Where can I buy an expansion?

[@Trumpeter2345]

“Long-term DLC investment fund”. Good one.

[@KnightofAges]

Game hit "mostly negative" review status on Steam... and, like clockwork, Paradox deleted all threads about it on their forums. They are out of touch with their playerbase.

[@superbpedro1492]

"quite a few people" the game is currently at mostly negative reviews lmao. They shouldve worked on Victoria 3. What a waste of money and time for them to make a souless game. Not bashing it, it deserves it. Here comes the FAntastic Dlc PoliCy.

[@dl7096]

Superb Pedro I’ve heard that they aren’t gonna do Victoria III because they don’t have the same team they used to when they came out with Vic II

[@superbpedro1492]

@@dl7096 its the end of a paradox era then.

[@Danary80]

Oh, you must have missed the day one release of the "complete"soundtrack. That even the deluxe purchasers didnt get. Music problem solved.

[@GTAram855]

The Complete Soundtrack is not an ingame DLC, it's the usual "Pay to download the OST" kind of thing. It doesn't add anything ingame!

[@THEBIGSMELL]

Maybe I'm just much more negative, but I felt you were pretty generous towards the game.

[@arandomdude8606]

If I want to support paradox I would buy their game without dlcs and crack the dlcs. Paradox should learn to make a sequel rather than adding 100+ dlcs that make the game playable and enjoyable.

[@rafaelrmaier]

Yup. Not buying any DLC for this piece of crap. Just gonna pirate the hell out of it, fugg padarox

[@gameplayCroatia]

thats why dlc unlocker exists, you buy the game and crack the 500$ of dlc, its not that they release actual dlc, most of it is content missing from the base game that they charge for

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@Resmond Shmahlt most companies would have stopped selling DLC, too. Because they make games, not DLCs...

[@alduinfeetpic9250]

I murdered thrice as many ancient frenchmen as Ceasar did, how do they still find enough people to continue rebelling?

[@kameradin8964]

if there's a will there's a way

[@Lazerfaced]

@pokezee king-wolf yikes

[@alduinfeetpic9250]

@Pferd Schild Ancient frenchmen, aka Gauls

[@Tatuzka]

davo_, but you forgot to mention that does it have any Woopers in it? I'm confused!!! ARE THERE WOOPERS OR NOT!? #RTSgamesneedwoopernation

[@aio8432]

bro, i literally have been diving deep into paradox games ever since i bought europa, then you upload this video. HELL YEAH

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Save your money. They have no AI, no real support, mods do EVERYTHING, and then PDX takes the mods and sells them as DLC

[@Petrasciuc1]

Yea, after 2 or 3 DLCs it's gonna be great

[@joeblack363]

Yeah not doing it this time, not falling for the dlc trap anymore!!!

[@durnel2001]

@@joeblack363 Just pirate it LMAO

[@lofidante1778]

I think this is one of best and accurate takes on the game. It’s not a bad game, and it really only shallow by paradox standards. There is certainly enough content to make it worth the price of admission. I will admit it doesn’t have the infinite replayablity of CK2 and EU4, but as more intermediate player I have found the relative simplicity refreshing. IR is still leagues better then anything else on the market, even if it doesn’t come out the gate meeting it’s full potential

[@brianvieane3907]

I feel like they tried to make the game appealing to new players to paradox. The game is too easy and tries to go into too many directions of previous paradox games to the point where it is just bland.

[@a-drewg1716]

@@brianvieane3907 it took some of the best mechanics from CKII, EUIV, and Victoria II. Made them extremely bland and shallow, and then made everything really easy.

[@brianvieane3907]

@@a-drewg1716 I agree, I feel like they should had just made it eu4 with ck2 characters in Roman times and ppl would had liked it.

[@Metagamingtv]

I will have to say though, the 1.0.1 hotfix did really fix the stuttering! Though that wasnt out when the review was made, I figured it might be worth mentioning as I know it really did bother me a lot.

[@zondor8123]

the whole stuttering or just 50% of the stutters?

[@newpaperyes]

Denmark exists in this game? Well that sucks

[@ate2124]

It's actually the best.

[@danielkjm]

I love a review that Say, This is not a Strategy game, Its a Mana management game, and shallow tatics

[@niall2236]

I thought about getting it, then once i realised that it had a day 1 dlc with half the fucking soundtrack on it, i remembered what paradox were like. Theyve had enough of my money from EU4, CK2 and Stellaris to cover the cost of 10 new games

[@Liam-iv7wk]

Vicky 2 was my first paradox game so now I'm always just underwhelmed with the lack of random fuckery and spreadsheets in every other paradox game.

[@radioman9900]

>depth >paradox Choose one.

[@kazaddum2448]

Ck2 disagrees.

[@radioman9900]

@Bartek Terebus A dozen "click to spend 25 diplo mana for immediate effect" decisions are not depth.

[@Magmakojote]

The thing is, if I choose between Imperator Rome, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis and Stellaris, there is no reason right now for me to play Imperator Rome. I played it for a bit, but the other games just have more stuff to do. Im am not that into the roman era and all that, so thats another reason not to play it right now. I dont hate it, but right now I have more fun with Paradox other games. I wouldnt recommend this game for now , except if you really like the time this game takes place.

[@Thelegendary421]

Youve grown so much i was probably here since 4k and dont regret it ^^

[@rubencarva]

Why is Victoria II regarded as such a complicated game? It's easier than CK 2 at least for me, I had to play at least 3 play throughs and watch a bunch of tutorials to get that game, but with Victoria II I only had to read the wiki and play a couple of games with Brasil and Japan and I got it

[@NapalmZombie16]

Might want to mention that you actually have to buy the soundtrack for all of the music, you don't get all the tracks im pretty sure

[@GTAram855]

That's the usual "buy the OST" pack, not a DLC for ingame music.

[@4Xtraordinaire]

this aged well

[@shibbyobibbyo]

Most of the good features you described already existed in EU:R. I don’t understand why paradox couldn’t just copy the well-liked features of CK2 and EU4 as well, I mean it’s the same game engine! Do they really plan to sell to us the same features that have already been added to their other games?

[@dentonneely551]

Very true and I have a lot of similar remarks. I REALLY wish there were more ways to control pretenders (assassinations, exile, make them turn to the clergy or something). I would love better political intrigue instead of wasting several hundred mana when my ruler dies to prevent a civil war (decrease the amount of units in the pretender’s army). But hey, there is probably something I’m missing, only 24 hours deep in the game compared to 1900+ in EU4.

[@ArabicNameGuy]

speaking of moving capital: is there a mod to move capital in Vicky 2? my hometown is a province and I want to make it a capital or i can play eu4 and move and rename but is not the same

[@soyderiverdeliverybeaver8941]

"The great ideas" you mention are actually from europauniversalis:rome I honestly think this is NOT a good basis for the 2019 paradox game, i would say its the worst paradox game for its era.

[@a-drewg1716]

I mean every single Paradox game was pretty great (even though their releases were definitly pretty bad they would quickly get updated and fixed and become amazing games) up reall til EUIV. EUIV is still a great game and it did have a pretty bad release but it was here they realized the money in DLC. Sure CK2 also has a crap ton of DLCs but nothing beats EUIV in terms of volume and price (most of CK2's DLC are pretty cheap and the price match its content while most of EUIV is just $20) and then that could be seen in HOI IV. I mean it is a alright game but it has some of the worst DLC's in my eyes as the first 3 were more or less just Focus packs that added more Focuses to the game which more mods do way better and more in depth anyways but still the game wasn't terrible. Then Imperator Rome came, this game was suppose to have some of the best features of all their previous games (pop from Victoria, Characters and people from CK2, and diplomacy, trade, and a few other things from EUIV. But all of these things they took just ended up be shallow versions from the games they took it from pissing off the communities from these games

[@wazzalord3]

my friends have 1000+ hours each in EU4, i have 20, I just couldnt get into it, but now we all got Imperator and it is easy enough for me get into (and enjoy) while till difficult enough for my friends to enjoy it, obviously we realize its lackluster, but it makes it more accesable for new players, i dont mind if the DLC arrives in a few months or longer, i am still learning it, but once the DLC gets here, i hope its gonna be entertaining enough to make me relearn a lot

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

its a paradox game, its like EA with you haveing to pay hand over fist for more and more dlc, but unlike EA at the very least the dlc is worth actually buying even if its frankly extortion.

[@meandmetoo8436]

Let's wait for DLCs and updates.

[@dejlislive5751]

I get that the scourned families are there to "force" you to resist picking the best people for all jobs but if I just neglect a family nothing happens. I get the popup that characters want to start wars but they never start a civil war because they have no power, no influence and no money. They just sit there in the character tab being mad at me. I've come across disloyal characters raising their own armies but big surprise. I've never seen the do more than disband the a couple of months/years later.

[@tmt_0488]

baby davo can’t comprehend the greatness of vicky 2

[@ruslang4794]

Let’s wait for 2 years till they finally fix this game with amount of DLCs

[@misha130]

Is there release nations mechanic? Didnt see it

[@qtRatret]

but how is it compared to the best paradox game, Stellaris?

[@pedrolmlkzk]

More or less the same: very lame at release

[@qtRatret]

@@pedrolmlkzk I really liked stellaris at launch tbh, but it wasn't that good until utopia, that's true.

[@nutyyyy]

@@pedrolmlkzk Stellaris was still good at release and ultimately was completely new ground for the devs, this is their bread and butter.

[@S3Cs4uN8]

That's not Victoria 2

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Are you asking if every DLC will be broken on release?

[@discordadmin9796]

dont worry, the map will be released in the next £19.99 DLC

[@ThaMonza]

As always you give an awesome balanced review. Tho people keep forgetting that there is always released free patches with every expansion and even released patches from time to time. Just look at the newly released update for Stellaris bringing a overhaul to planets without it being part of the Megacorp DLC

[@ThaMonza]

@@johnstarwright2029 So by your logic, we can't evolve or change. Do something dumb once, then u can never forget that. noted

[@ThaMonza]

@@johnstarwright2029 Which dlc is it your talking about? Since i'm not following you here, and I know Paradox have done some stupid things with their dlc like the Estate system, which has been moved to the actual game, as far as I can see they have gotten a whole lot better then they used to be.

[@rafaelrmaier]

@@ThaMonza the production tab I think it is called, where you can serialize your production of troops, building, diplomacy etc. is a dlc (or used to be when I still payed to play these games xD)

[@ThaMonza]

@@rafaelrmaier Seeing as they put Estates behind a DLC then I don't doubt that your right, tho it would be nice if you could point out which DLC?

[@professionaldaft7403]

0:06 Why did I not think of that analogy before

[@Facelessbuster]

Hey. Quick little thing. I'm brand new to the whole Grand Strategy thing. The only game I've played that kinda fits that genre is Civilization 5 and 6. I saw an add for Imperator Rome and checked it out on Steam and saw it was discounted. Is this game worth it? Again I'm new to this genre of gaming so is this game good for a beginner or is it still a bad idea? I can see from some of the comments it's one of those "Half assed now, DLC to really finish it later" kind of games.

[@noah-vf6dy]

It's a little bit late but if you're still interested in the question. Get Europa universals as your first game. It is cheaper and more developed than Imperator Rome. The game is 7 years old and you can have a lot of fun without the dlcs,also the game and dlc are often in sale and you can get them cheap.

[@joeblack363]

Hey just wanted to let you all know I said this game would be shit when they showed first gameplay way back...and got so much shit for it, yeah, I was right

[@alex_zetsu]

Can this company even make a game playable on release date?

[@Lazerfaced]

No

[@Lazerfaced]

They will charge you another $19.99 to make the game playable

[@karakter222]

Did other Paradox came out with more fledged out mechanics, evets and other stuff? I never played any of them without DLCs

[@a-drewg1716]

I mean most Paradox games come out to bare-bones and crappy compare to after their DLCS (the like 3 DLC's for both HOI III and Victoria II and the hundreds of DLC's for CK2 and EUIV) and even just after their updates they look drastically different so it is kinda hard to think about it, but I loved all 4 of these games at release (HOI II, Victoria II, CK2, and EUIV) while this one I played for 2 hours and got bored

[@girv98]

Honestly when was the last paradox game that was complete on launch.

[@a-drewg1716]

I mean EUIV was pretty terrible at launch compared to what it is now after the hundreds of DLC's and updates but I remember loving it mostly because I had no reference for it and the same for HOI III, Victoria II, and CK2 then compared to Imperator Rome which took its mechanics from every other Paradox games so I could see how shallow its mechanics were.

[@theguywiththenices1610]

Nice!

[@davo_]

Nice! (2)

[@saltyboiromania6959]

Nice! (3)

[@Dhjaru]

Nice! (4)

[@what4874]

Nice! (5)

[@jackisback2842]

Nice! (6)

[@VL1975]

I was never a Paradox guy but this title interested me. I can't say whether it's bare bones but it doesn't have a certain lacking element to it. I love the amount of countries/provinces. I just wished they would of gone all the way to Japan! It's a cool game, but it's probably not something where I am gonna go out and buy DLCs like I did for TW:Rome2.

[@a-drewg1716]

I am the opposite. I was a huge Paradox fan evey since Hearts of Iron III back in 2009 and basically bought every single one of their games no questions asked I bought Victoria II CK2 EUIV (I didn't buy March of the Eagles but I don't think anyone did) Stellarris HOI IV Imperator Rome I even bought plenty of games they published Mount and Blade Warband Mount and Blade: With Fire and Sword Magicka Magicka 2 Cities Skyline Surviving Mars Steel Division: Normandy 44 but Imperator Rome was just such a let down for me that it broke my interest in Paradox games. Sure I still play the crap out of the other titles but I really lost interest now in their future games

[@ORO323]

Want more interesting mechanics that should’ve been in the game? That’ll be another $20

[@TheSebi99p]

Probably the best review of this game I've seen. And maybe this is because I'm not a veteran Paradox fan... as I only played HoI IV... I dunno. I think the game is ok... started out as a 7 for me, but... as time move on, and I got to know it better, it dropped to a 6. It's not bad. But I can see where the criticism lies. Just... some people make it out to be shit, which it ain't... at least in my view. Yes, the mana is shallow as fuck, yes, the unit variety is garbage, but it has some great ideas, some better implemented than others. It *does* need more for flavour, I agree, but... it's not bad... it's just... meh, fine, I guess.

[@OlStinky1]

The frustration is strongest from EU4 players as Imperator is basically the same game, but stripped down (no national perks/identity) and with questionable additions (same boring combat system and of course the mana issue). It's in the same engine so there really is no reason they couldn't have a more solid starting point.

[@TheSebi99p]

@@OlStinky1 Fair enough. I haven't played it, so I can't say. It just seems that it's overly criticized. I understand the frustration, but it's not a *bad* game imo, just an incomplete one. And I have a feeling much will be addressed via DLC. And *that* is what Paradox should be criticized over. But that's nothing new, really.

[@OlStinky1]

@Sebi99p Yea it's not a bad game, just the same solid game repackaged and resold. I'd compare it to how Firaxis pumped out Beyond Earth after Civ5... for the amount of recycled content/mechanics all in the same engine you expect there to be something new to make the price worth it.

[@TheSebi99p]

@@OlStinky1 Sure, I agree. I'm not dissing the disgruntled customers... I just think the backlash is a smidgen too much. But I get it.

[@DeltaComp]

I don’t know how well the game has been selling, but we are assuming the game will actually last long enough, and not get abandoned if Paradox deems it no longer cost-efficient to support, to get the amount of DLC needed to make the game the best it can be.

[@Chemo2742]

should i buy all the ck2 dlc? i really want to play it but after playing stellaris i know that paradox games without dlc are cursed abominations

[@solaraspect5255]

A ledger is sorely needed, but even before that the game needs a breakdown of costs and income in the budget UI. It's just a summed up number with no contextual information whatsoever at the moment. I don't know how such an eye-straining omission makes it through testing.

[@danielkjm]

I wish a new Victoria game

[@s1nb4d59]

Agree with 99% of what you brought up,this will be the last paradox game ill buy if they rip us off with content in their dlc's and charge us too much again.

[@popezosimusthethird269]

I don't know who you are but you just recommended a Wooper-less game. Let davo go, we'll pay the ransom, whatever it is just name your price.

[@marvingiertz846]

Km addicted to the game but as u mentioned the cons are way to much paradox did really bad there and if they release dlcs I would just crack it no need to waste money there

[@stevenn_driscoll]

I honestly think the game LOOKS good from Paradox Grand Strategy buyer kind of view but right now it’s a blank slate waiting for paradox to make paint (DLC) for others to use

[@trancecod]

I always thought this type of games lack some kind of city editor/builder mechanic, like cities skylines but much much more simpler (or atleast city view). Don't get me wrong, this game lacks some base mechanics, but this is just a thought and I think it would be a good mechanic to add.

[@wowPaladinZZZ]

At least there is some modes that helps the game to be more fune like the buildings + mod but it still needs a lot of work

[@chickensoundedmexicanyt9732]

I personally like Imperator because of the Roman era and think some of its mechanics are cool.Tbh i knew the game wasnt gonna be liked aswell as other paradox games because not all people like the Roman era

[@DeathspiralXV]

I played a game where I colonized Ireland as a 2 province minor, and it was mind numbing. I figured i'd try something different than my usual paint the map in EU4 and build Hiberia up to defeat the mainland. I was upset that there was no flavor or unique events, and I had 3 rulrs with less than 3 Oratory power. By the time I was done Pritannia formed and I got boned because I formed a monarchy and lost my tribal retinues then they declared war on me and I lost my scottish holdings. Pretty meh experience.

[@Lazerfaced]

So once again Paradox is ransoming the actually cool stuff until after you've paid $80 (Canadian) It's gonna be a no from me dawg

[@chronovac]

I know it was never gonna happen, but I was hoping for a game that could tap into those infamous roman politics. Looks like the best I'll get is playing Byzantium in ck2.

[@pas0003]

I enjoyed the game up to when 1.0.1 broke it for me. Can no longer move armies without crashing the game. 1.0 or 1.0.2 result in save games not working. Pretty damn barebones for a 1.0

[@swedichboy1000]

Really a bummer that you cant split retinues, because they just stand there and take attrition damage.

[@kazaddum2448]

Those are armies, often loyal not to the head of state, but their general. I agree that the attrittion is bullshit, but everything else you got completely wrong.

[@swedichboy1000]

What part was fallible?@@kazaddum2448

[@Yaratoma]

I miss a function for my councilors, as CK2 could place them on the map to actually do stuff.

[@skeletonrowdie1768]

have you seen the patch notes for version 1.1? seems like a solid step forward already :)

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

It's almost like devs released another sloppily rushed game and knew what to change, but weren't interested in releasing the game wheb it is ready..

[@skeletonrowdie1768]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry yeah sure is, tho I'm happy they're willing to fill up the game with patches instead of going full DLC on it :P

[@lordgigenshtain]

first time playing paradox games. i like this game 10/10

[@kazaddum2448]

It's a good game, but a very bland paradox game.

[@deer4927]

I'm just hoping that future mods will be able to take advantage of the extremely fantastic base that Paradox created with the cities system, a lot of potential with that. No real reason to play it over other games for now though, just the mana and blobbing of EU4 but worse combined with the characters of CK2 but worse. Though there are alot of neat ideas with alot of potential the execution is lackluster.

[@lad5912]

The gameplay won't be shallow when they release a few hundred DLCs

[@GamerMoment_]

When are you going to review roblox fortnite

[@davo_]

when they put it on nintendo switch

[@GamerMoment_]

davo_ , once it does, 1v1 me on roblox rap battles

[@Dragonball123Roxette]

The unit models look so much like the Rome 2 total war ones!

[@eurion6527]

I'm ready to lose my social life again

[@ShyDream_]

any reason to play this over total war: warhammer 2?

[@badboje6040]

Very different games

[@videogamebomer]

Any reason to play Warhammer 2 over Lego star wars the complete saga

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

No

[@kazaddum2448]

You compare apples to oranges. But both are meh games.

[@Armageddon2077]

Large scale and free DLc would go a long way to making the community feel better about this...

[@dogerio]

Yeah, but youre talking about Paradox...

[@kazaddum2448]

@@dogerio Call "free DLC" "free patch" and you got it.

[@dogerio]

@@kazaddum2448 Pretty much

[@davidhay3924]

the game isnt finished. its like windows 10, they released it before it is ready and rely on geeks to offer solutions and improvements, this gives said geeks a massive hard on. Future DLC etc will improve and finish the game I waited 3 years after EU4 was released and now it is a very good game...

[@gave1797]

Has this game gotten any better over the years?

[@trevorgolnick5066]

Game got Dropped by Paradox before it ever truly reached the point it was really playable on even the same realm as CK2 or EU4

[@stojankovacic1524]

I agree with you on most points but I think you should review it again in a year or year and a half and you will be met with a masterpiece. Play EU4 as it was on release... It's also bare bones but it got way better to become the game we know and love

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

If it's going to be good in 2years...why wasn't it released then...

[@stojankovacic1524]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry Why release a game that's already outdated? Why waste the hype people have about a new game releasing it 2 years after it's playable? I:R is far better than most other Pdx games were at release. Why weren't they released years later?

[@iielysiumx5811]

im willing to bet that at least half of the money i have ever spent on steam has gone to paradox

[@KlausWulfenbach]

1:26 so it's a Splatoon clone. Makes sense.

[@kiandocherty3589]

It is morally acceptable to pirate Paradox games that are intentionally holding necessary content hostage. I.e. CK2 for a new player to get all the dlc would cost £300+ for a nearly 7 year old game. Kinda fucked. Make the base game free and charge for the DLC`s imo. Allows it to be supported AND make it actually viable for new players.

[@kazaddum2448]

DLC based investment fond. I'll steal that name.

[@Holsp]

Scored families are bad as when you have a lot of them you can´t really employ them all. Also I really dont like this game but ledger? Really? Like usually the reason why I look into it is to see information about my enemy but they have it written in thier state description so no worries The UI is really bad, trade also

[@ZoltanDeluxe]

I like when people whine about trivial stuff. Thanks.

[@Fakheet]

i'm (accidentally) so early the video isn't loading

[@itsthesameday2857]

game without flavor? means that flavor adding DLC:s are coming!! YEY...

[@KuhoinX]

It appears to me that most people who review the game have not played EU: Rome which Imperator: Rome is based on. Comparing Imperator: Rome with EU4 and Crusader Kings 2 and Victoria 2 does not really do it justice cos it is not trying to be any of those.

[@kostasbrunner5701]

I did and I think imperator is just a little bit polished EU Rome. They promised they will take the best parts from eu4 ck2 and vic2. And they took the worst parts. Taits that do nothing from ck2. Mana from eu4. And don't dare to compare the pop system from vic2... Maybe from vic1 but not even close. I play paradox games since the release of hio2 and imperator is just a joke atm.

[@Rand0mname]

Honestly, I went into the game expecting an improved version of EU:Rome and that is exactly what I got

[@kalentober-hammell1896]

We are allowed to be disappointed by this release, not surprised.

[@Rand0mname]

@@kalentober-hammell1896 Just as I'm allowed to be perfectly fine with what was released. I never said people were not allowed to be disappointed.

[@RexOedipus.]

I was disappointed, but then again EU:Rome was also barebones

[@kalentober-hammell1896]

Rand0mname I am also perfectly fine with this game. But I am, at the same time, disappointed. I have logged 40 hours in it and I will probably log another 40, but I wish I could play more. I can confidently call this game a good game, but I wish I could call it great game. It is a game worth it’s cost in my opinion and after dlc and patches it will, most likely, only get better

[@TheDinkcool]

I wouldn't say that this is typical Paradox at all. CK II, EU IV and HoI IV were all great games with a ton of depth at release and continue to be great games to this day. Even if you play them without any DLC. This game however, is just boring.

[@benjaminmclaren8782]

Well the game LOOKS good, but does it have Whoopers in it? I think I need to know the answer.

[@dimimitrijenogic1272]

It's like EU4 but just more barebones

[@deadlyduck11]

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