Imperial Army Home Planet - SALUSA SECUNDUS | DUNE 2021

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[@ciarancassidy7566]

Fun fact: to get the feel for what a depressingly bleak, grey and rainy planet filled with psychotic men speaking an unintelligible language with strange and violent religious beliefs would be like, Denis Villeneuve spent a week in Scotland. He based this scene on football supporters getting ready for a Rangers-Celtic game.

[@deildegast]

Priceless comment :)

[@twobob8585]

I would rather be one of the human sacrifices than spend a week in Scotland watching what they call football.

[@zemaniak22]

Welcome to paradise…

[@ciarancassidy7566]

@@JC-oq5ex Good work! You about 30% understood a very obvious joke

[@fatfreddyscoat7564]

True dat.

[@mensrea1251]

“We are Saudaukar, the Emperor’s blades. Those who stand against us, fall.” I fkn felt that.

[@leeboy26]

So did a lot of Atreides.

[@pastorTracy911]

@@leeboy26 too soon

[@exclamationquestionmark]

was that in the subtitles? i cant get any subtitles to work

[@mensrea1251]

@@exclamationquestionmark No subtitles. I speak Saudaukar. 🗡

[@Randywm01]

Then they got their asses reamed by the Fremen lmao

[@blindoutlaw]

I love how all the Sardaukar are shown to be older grizzled veterans. Shows that on Salusa Secundus, the weak die young.

[@elih9700]

And those hanging upside down the failed Sardaukar.

[@matc2094]

nop... in the Lore Salusa Secundus is the "prison planet" so guest where the Emperor gets his Sardaukar...

[@sygmarvexarion7891]

@@elih9700 Not really, just random criminals. Salusa Secundus was initially the homeworld of House Corrino, the Emperor's house, but then the Emperor eyed a very nice looking planet somewhere else and left that shithole. Then the planet became a high security prison planet AND the training grounds of the Sardaukar - the Emperor's personal army and most ruthless and skilled fighters in the known galaxy. Criminals are offered the chance to become a Sardaukar if they're good enough, but the Saurdaukar don't recruit just criminals.

[@elih9700]

@@sygmarvexarion7891 The sardaukar are the decendents of the enemies of House Corrino I thought.

[@squamish4244]

@@elih9700 That might be Brian J. Herbert stuff. Like the idea that Salusa Secondus was once a hospitable planet but destroyed in the Butlerian Jihad, which failed to wipe out House Corrino.

[@timovangalen1589]

The first thirty seconds of this scene are a masterclass in visual storytelling. You know everything you need to know about the Sardaukar without any dialogue.

[@msachin4885]

This whole movie is a masterclass in visual storytelling Just an absolute visual and auditory triumph that puts Hollywood to shame

[@TheCombatEditor62]

that's one of the rules my film professor told me. when introducing a character or characters, tell the audience everything they need to know about them before they say anything. kind of like Jack Sparrow's entrance on the boat. with no dialogue, we already know who this man is and how he deals with his problems.

[@crhkrebs]

It’s a simple rule of filmmaking, but one that is not easy to actualize, “Show, don’t tell”. How often do poorly scripted movies get bogged down with exposition dumps?

[@knowalphas9492]

Crazy chanting, tons of rain, human sactirfice..yep these guys are going to do the lords work.

[@cliffcox7643]

Bringing in the Sheaves, bringing in the Sheaves, we will come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves.

[@tchoco]

The amount of precipitation is linked in some way to morality you say?

[@knowalphas9492]

@@tchoco absolutely. It’s gotta be a biblical homage back to Noah’s ark. The righteous Sardukar (drenched in the flooding rain) will eradicate house Atredies!

[@cliffcox7643]

@@tchoco i just not, I have not been the Lords messenger for a few year. Retired w benefits and party a few years ago.

[@joshuagraham2843]

the sardaukers and fremen are both equally matched each other

[@adrianaron9639]

A bartender in peaky blinders and now a commander of the imperial army, harry has come a long way.

[@Joseph-ic8xd]

Woah I barely recognized him here.

[@adrianaron9639]

@@Joseph-ic8xd He is a good actor, I pan to see some of his works, I just dont get the time, After visiting Tommy and Major Campbells work, he is on the list, Arthur and John too, but they come later.

[@Joseph-ic8xd]

@@adrianaron9639 John in Black Mirror was good. I didn't even know Arthur was in the Revenant.

[@stanpines9011]

Hoooly shit, it's billy kimbah

[@alexwilliamson1486]

Damn I knew I saw him somewhere! Great spot!👌🏻

[@Feyd01]

I've watched Monty Python and the Holy Grail too many times. Every time the chanting stops, I expect the Sardukar to hit themselves over the head with a plank of wood.

[@marka4891]

Pie Jesu domine, Dona eis requiem...

[@samsypoo]

That would be a good movie to upload some clips of

[@sitrakaforler8696]

Lmfao dude 😆

[@DoctorTG]

It is like Goliat Cartoon series intro

[@DoctorTG]

I mean Goliat french cartoon about cavemen

[@Audisknfj]

>desolate wasteland that rains all year >not many young people >everyone who made it lives in a mansion >Salusa Secundus is just brutalized space Norway it seems

[@Asbjoorn]

As a norwegian, this hits home

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

The thing I liked most about this scene has nothing to die with the scene itself, and everything to do with the Mongolian man who told me that the throat singing was very clearly a prayer to their ancestors for protection in a very weirdly pronounced, kinda broken Mongolian language. He only understood about a quarter of the words but apparently it’s hard to mistake that kind of prayer.

[@jukaa1012]

Amazing... and it makes sense, since this takes place 20k years in the future, words would get added or subtracted, change meaning and pronauciation. The singing still has it's origins in mongolian throat singing from earth, only they don't know it in-universe, knowledge lost to time and space

[@menefrego7183]

there's an interview with the white guy who did the sounds and he said he just made random sounds and they chopped and manipulated them into the chant so somebody is fibbing, not to mention mongolian chanting is different and this was based more on tibetan buddhist chants

[@jamesbuchanan4414]

@@jukaa1012 On average, the ability to comprehend a language only lasts about 300-500 years. In 20,000 years, less than one percent of spoken language would resemble what we speak today.

[@Martin-xd4jl]

That makes a lot of sense, considering what the Sardaukar commander is speaking is actually weirdly chopped up, broken English.

[@skebaba918]

@@jukaa1012 Yeah Sardakaur language is basically Mongolian, but w/ heavily cut words/compressed sentences so you can speak ASAP lest you die on the shithole planet during w/e hunting raids they do to not die from hunger on said prison planet. The only non-shorthand bit is the word Sardakaur, which shows how much pride they take in their job, to not shorten it whatsoever

[@jeffreymiller9438]

In the book, the briefing by Piter to Feyd cites 'two legions' of Sardaukar. I would guess that the Sardaukar Commanders summoned reinforcements for their campaign against the Fremen. Hawat mentions in his briefing with the Baron that Fremen losses might have reached 20,000. He said that if that figure was correct, the Saudaukar lost almost five for one. This implies over 90,000 lost by the Saudaukar on Arrakis.

[@strenifstrecs2551]

In WH40k I think a legion is 100k

[@sturmbok]

@@strenifstrecs2551 A legion is 40,000 in Dune if I remember the books correctly. I also remember it as "5 legions of my Sardaukar terror troops" that was promised to the Baron.

[@corausr]

@@sturmbok 30.000 men are in one legion. That is what the baron got for his invasion one sardaukar legion, the rest of the invasion forces consisting of 10 legion total were his own harkonnen troops. In the 2021 version the harkonnen only got 3 batallions so 9000 sardaukar in total.

[@Adiadi1313]

imagine if they all are Luna Wolves in the beginning of the heresy and the commander who speak is Abaddon. in my mind somehow its fits to this scene lol.

[@petroandras]

@@Adiadi1313 Among other things, Dune was a big inspiraton for 40K.

[@dogbounty1282]

In the books they say even the lowest sardukaur soldier lives in a mansion. So each one of those guys has his own mansion

[@techypriest7523]

half the planet is just lake front properties LOL

[@johnharrison6745]

Ah; so THAT'S why the Fremen are their betters: They live hard pretty-much all the time.

[@hiddendragon415]

Which really flies in the face of them being grizzled mercenaries

[@randomelite4562]

@@hiddendragon415 Not really, its repeated throughout the lore that by the events of Dune, the Sardaukar had become weak and complacent

[@orbitalbutt6757]

Not just a mansion. The lowest sardaukar lives like a minor planetary ruler. The lowliest sardaukar can afford to take spice regularly while still being rich, which even some planetary satraps cannot afford to do. They were *phenomenally* wealthy. A bashar-colonel of the sardaukar had wealth and privilege on par with a leader of a Great House and the few Bursegs (field marshall, general, supreme commander) there were enjoyed status comparable to *any* planetary ruler. It was part of the reason that the sardaukar we see in Dune are the sardaukar *in decline*. They’d grown soft after generations of untold wealth and luxury. Imagine them in the height of their power. It’s no wonder that even the rumor of a sardaukar force being deployed was enough to instantaneously stop almost every political conflict in the post-butlerian universe.

[@sturmbok]

If I remember right , in the books a legion was 40,000 men. The Emperor promised 5 legions of Sardaukar to the Baron(or at least that is what he told the Guild navigator), So that would be 200,000 total. In the aftermath of the surprise attack Thufar told the Baron that the Sardaukar had killed 20,000 Freman but had lost 5 times that number in doing it. So the Emperors best lost half(100k) in their bid to rid dune of the Freman.

[@peterbarca8783]

Was there an addendum to how many legions the Atriedies had?

[@techypriest7523]

@@peterbarca8783 I'd assume it was a dozen at minimum. Their entire army and house moved onto dune.

[@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167]

Yea they pretended/convinced themselves it was job done and abandoned the pogrom. This was in the space of 1 year IIRC.

[@Frontline_view_kaiser]

Pretty much. In the books the Sardaukar were getting soft and decadent.

[@Shinigami13133]

@@Frontline_view_kaiser not really, the fremen were simply just as hardy as the sardukar in a fight, but had the added advantage of their home territory, where shields didn't work. This meant that the entire theory of meele combat was turned on its head for the saurdukar, who would've been used to shielded fighting.

[@cg22165]

I like how the Sardaukar looks like he would rather kill the mentat than talk to such a thing; it's only that he doing the emperor's bidding that stays his hand. And, the mentat is carefully calculating the words to use to keep that from happening.

[@Kevin-yw5qr]

on the contrary, the mentat is clearly stoking Sardaukar pride by saying "Atreides legions are the finest in the imperium" and "trained by Gerney Alec and Dunkin Idaho". Mentats are human super computers, I have no doubts he specifically chose those words with intent.

[@maxdamage1983]

@ELEAZAR ABNER Fuck Jesus, fuck your god, fuck you beliefs and fuck you.

[@cg22165]

@@Kevin-yw5qr That's pretty much what I said.

[@Joseph-ic8xd]

@@Kevin-yw5qr You are contradicting your contradiction by restating OP's comment.

[@rubaiyat300]

@@cg22165 If that was the intent that's not how it read. Your comment made it sound more like Pietr was scared and trying not to die. Whereas the other reading was he was in complete control the entire time and got 3 battalions of troops with two sentences.

[@321AlterSchwede]

My next holiday will be on Salusa Secundus. Its so chilled and peaceful there. Besides, it seem a perfect place for my children and parents.

[@MrKerag]

you might end up hanging upside down like those guys on the video

[@mensrea1251]

Ex-es, too.

[@philippbehrend5559]

great shopping and dining. I do would love to see the inside of a Sardaukar pub tho. the bar fights there.....

[@pascalwill2401]

Pour ta belle mère 😂

[@Playboyy1985]

"The Emperor demands it. It is done." Piter rolls his eyes "So this whole conversation was pointless"

[@Gilliganfrog]

LoL that's a good observation. Note, however, that mentat eye-rolls and eyelid-flutters are signs of their brains checking data and making calculations.

[@Samaritan38]

The Sardukars are ready to fight for Arrakis. Plain and simple.

[@ImNoSkrull386]

He was making calculations

[@Samuel-wm1xr]

the captain never had the authority to decide anyway. the captain's comment about why does harkonnen need the sardaukar was only a subtle jibe at the harkonnen for not being able to defeat the atreides by themselves. piter retaliated by saying that the atreides are the finest in the imperium (which the sardaukar claim for themselves), and the captain got angry and boasted that the sardaukar are undefeatable. Piter then backed off, agreed that the Sardaukar are undefeatable and tries to soothe the captain by saying it's only 5 legions (so it's not asking for a big investment). the captain just shrugs and says his opinion doesn't matter because the Emperor decides. It wasn't really a negotiation, more like taking minor digs at each other and then making up.

[@jnishar]

He is a mentat. That's how they plan. There is another mentat who does the same.

[@StraightEdgeKen]

Ahh good old England

[@michaelmacdonell4834]

Human sacrifices always seem to attract the rain, what?

[@hilton5pos]

I met the guy who played the Sardaukar Bashar a few years ago, before Dune was made, and took a photo with him. He's called Neil Bell and he was really cool. I was in Manchester last week and ran past him in the city centre. I nearly yelled "SARDAUKAR!" at him but figured he wouldn't appreciate it LOL.

[@natekinch]

Yeah Hollywood people don’t care nearly as much as the people who enjoy the movies hahaha

[@peterschorn1]

Good call

[@frankbarron1907]

I need to watch this again. I think it’ll be the 6th time. Then maybe a 7th and 8th…

[@SuperiorBrick]

Lmao this nerd isn’t even in double digit views of this scene yet

[@azazelRising72]

Part 2 can not come soon enough.

[@waltersimmons9512]

I thought I'm the only one rewatching this movie almost 20 times now..lmao.

[@crb4059]

@@azazelRising72 starts filming in a few days

[@anrupo2]

This film is like pure art ... you never get tired even if you see it 100 times

[@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167]

The Baron was nervous that the 1 legion of sardaukar might turn on and annihilate his 10 legions. Interestingly in the same scene the Barons life was genuinely at risk as the sardaukar had orders the Duke wasn’t to be tortured but put to death quickly and cleanly, and the imperial officer was suspicious wasn’t messing around and basically threatened the Baron.

[@AngryMarine-il6ej]

According to the original book, the Emperor loaned the Baron 5 Legions. A legion is 10 brigades of 3000 each which all would have totaled 150,000 troops. The total number Sardaukar was said to be in the area of 50 legions.

[@jamesomara3361]

That's right from the book? I would've loved a scene like that, calling out the Baron for not sticking to his deal and seeing if the Baron was genuinely afraid at the thought of pissing off the leader of the Sardaukar.

[@thesnoopmeistersnoops5167]

IIRC it’s right after Leto bites the poison. It’s not like the film, the baron rushes out a side door to safety. The sardaukar commanding officer wants to see the dukes body but the Harkonnens are frantically trying to cover up what just happened. Could be wrong on the total number of legions but I’m sure it was a 10 to 1 Harkonnen to sardaukar ratio. They had to hit the whole planet at once, lots of towns and outposts. Paul and Jessica pick up the radio chatter in the thopter.

[@solovevkiril]

Remember lads: thanks to Herbert's sardaukars we have stormtroopers and space marines.

[@asavelakuse6865]

Emperor commands it

[@solovevkiril]

@@asavelakuse6865 it is done.

[@9and7]

no

[@j-b3548]

@@9and7 yes

[@TheIrishny]

The language is actually English but a really brutalised version. Like English with half the consonants taken out. you can tell in the subtitled version.

[@brendansunra]

Sahdookah!

[@vetiarvind]

"fall" is "faad".

[@y11971alex]

😅

[@brofordshire2002]

I like how the mentat looks just a little shaken up, as if being on their home planet makes him concerned for his safety. Lovely touch:)

[@johnnymaximum3828]

that mentat could hold his own

[@orbitalbutt6757]

that mentat was an assassin, not a fighter. That mentat may have gotten one with deception but in a straight fight piter devries was never on the level of someone like a Sardaukar, a fremen, Duncan, Paul, or the killingest man in the early series Count Hasimir Fenring who even Paul knew could just straight up murder him.

[@KD--sj8eo]

@@orbitalbutt6757 really hope they put Fenring in the sequel! Too eerie and mysterious not to!

[@orbitalbutt6757]

@@KD--sj8eo Same! Hasimir Fenring and his wife are such an unusually compelling duo, especially for characters who don’t get much face time in the novels. From their strange humming code-speech to the way Fenring moves in a way that’s both unnerving and hard to follow to the fact that he was nearly a Kwisatz Haderach himself the Fenring’s stole each scene they were in. It’d be a shame to see them cut, here’s hoping we’ll see them.

[@RazorO2Productions]

@@orbitalbutt6757 his wife is in the sequel

[@0vermars520]

Reminds me of the dial up days when connecting to the internet

[@АкадемияТанкомагии]

yeahh

[@whatwouldadamdo7919]

That's the funniest shit I heard all day.

[@hiddendragon415]

Personally this is the best scene in the movie just because of the chanting.

[@itstwistedfeatures]

I don't really get shook at horror films anymore but there's something about that noise and the general atmos of this scene that taps into my primal fear somehow

[@declanmcnamara2223]

I love the cadence the Sardaukar Captain has, almost as if he is reciting a holy text or psalm in the way he says 'we are the emperors blades, those who stand against us fall'

[@paulsullivan6946]

A detail I noticed; at the end, Piter does this weird thing where he blinks with one eye while doing a sort of simultaneous half wink with the other eye. I think this is a nod to the fact that in the books, Piter is mentally unstable and known as the "mad mentat" and the weird wink is a sort of manifestation of that inner madness.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

I had always assumed that was him doing Mentat calculations. Thufir Hawat had a similar moment during the herald of the change scene except both his eyes rolled back. Piter closed one eye and rolled back the other.

[@Frontline_view_kaiser]

It's little things like this that make this movie sooo much better to watch after reading the book. But I do miss the deep characterisation of every person involved. In the film no characters were really developed

[@adomalyon1]

The fact that Thufir rolls back both eyes and Piters eyes Rollin opposite direction is a nod to the fact he is a 'twisted ' mentat.

[@richardtaylor1652]

​@@adomalyon1 Twisted in every sense of the world. Literally a human computer with zero ethical boundaries.

[@ChristopherSibert]

"Dreams are messages from the deep..."

[@Omgiamsotriggered]

A cool fact: in order to become a sardukar they go thru harsh training and survival, only the fittest and survivors can become one. The ones being sacrificed are their brothers who didnt make it thru. They are being bathed in the blood of the fallen.

[@Samaritan38]

It's like joining specialized military personnel looked like kindergarteners. Those Sardukars Terror troops are no joke, they're best of the best.

[@michafraszczak120]

Selusa Secundus was not home to the imperial army nor was it the only source of troops for tje emperor. It was homeplanet of Sardaukar (basicaly penal colony) which were elite troops of house Corrino. That happened to be house from which emperors hail for the last 1000 years or so. If for example Atreides were to ascend to the throne their army would become "imperial army" while Sardaukar would remain troops of house Corrino.

[@Hartwig870]

I thought it was where they were trained. Once indoctrinated/trained they lived pretty good lives on Kaitain, on par with members of noble houses.

[@orbitalbutt6757]

@Justin Correct. Even the lowliest sardaukar can afford to take spice regularly. There are planetary rulers who can’t afford that. Bashar-colonels lived lives that equaled members of some Great Houses, and the very few Bursegs (field marshalls/supreme commanders) had wealth and status equal to any of the Great Houses. It’s partly why the sardaukar we see/read of in Dune are the sardaukar IN DECLINE, and even in decline the mere rumor of sardaukar being dispatched was enough to quell any interplanetary conflict. Imagine them in their prime

[@nvelsen1975]

Previous Dune films failed because they didn't make it accesible enough. You need to be able to understand at least most without reading the books. So 'prison planet' would leave most people wondering what that has to do with the Sardaukar legions, but 'army planet' makes it clear that it's a whole planet dedicated to raising and housing an army. Evidently there wasn't time to tell the whole story of how the Sardaukar formed, and that's not relevant either. All you need to know is that they're badasses, which then sets up the Fremen.

[@Jipsydude]

It is also the Corino Home Planet if I remember correctly. It is at least conjectured to be at one point in the series.

[@orbitalbutt6757]

@@Jipsydude It was, but was obliterated during the butlerian jihad (in Frank’s timeline). In his incompetent hack of a son’s timeline it was destroyed only a few hundred years before Dune by “House Tantor.” I highly recommend ignoring literally everything written by Brian Herbert that was not directly lifted from Frank’s notes, and that was only one book, the immediate follow up to Chapterhouse. Everything else can be safely deposited in the garbage where it belongs.

[@victorrain]

I got chills hearing this voice in the dark at the start of Dune Part 2!!!!

[@michaelray5023]

I don’t think so. That had to be the voice of the Kwizats Haderach you know? The Messiah? Either that or the future Emperor, a descendent of Paul Atreidis.

[@victorrain]

@@michaelray5023 I know the person speaking at the start of the film wasn’t the guy on Salusa Secundus. I was referring to the similar language and sound.

[@costco_pizza]

I loved it! I hope the Sardaukar Priest opens up the third movie as well.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

Wow, this is more alien than actual aliens.

[@SAVUFILMS]

“Hamburger Cheeseburger Big Mac Wopper “

[@oceania2385]

In the first Dune move the Sadukar looked like they were dressed in Hefty bags... Not exactly "terror troops" These guys on the other hand are freakin' scary.

[@ammanbansal2265]

Not to mention, the miniseries depicted them as a bunch of soldiers with chef hats.

[@lordflash4312]

speak for yourself, they were freaky with the green gas chamber window looking things and laser gatling guns....scared the $hit out of me as a kid

[@waleedjamal34]

What a spiritually motivated and lovely people, you can see the goodness in there faces , they are definitely a rightly guided people that work for the lord

[@DystruktoBoi1]

I like how if you watch his mouth he is saying his lines in regular English, and they dubbed over an alien sounding language that still fits the pattern of his lips moving. This is actually quite realistic because if you go back far enough into old English it eventually becomes unrecognizable to todays dialect and is even missing letters, but when it is spoken you can ALMOST make out where the modern English came from.

[@brianfoley4328]

The guys is chanting "Three more weeks and we'll be through, I'll be glad and so will you".

[@lordflash4312]

there's no "1-2-3-4-1-2....three four!" by the croots, though...

[@Pasan34]

This is now my falling sleep music, on an 8 hour loop.

[@PV1230]

your neighbors must love you.

[@wilfriedvomacka1783]

You will either wake up as a Sardaukar or not wake up at all.

[@changechange9972]

This was filmed during a typical British summer.

[@L.I.2RVA]

This entire scene is PERFECT cinematography!!

[@rudilee5318]

What the heck, I just realized now that it's human sacrifice blood, didn't notice the tied upside-down people 😐

[@SB-qm5wg]

Mongolian concerts are hardcore.

[@spaceman9599]

This is the place where the Duniverse overlaps with Warhammer 40k

[@jagaloon216]

Or where Dune existed a loooong time before Warhammer 40k. Cute to see people realising where stuff came from though. In War of the Worlds, author HG Wells had the invading Martians flying on earth. This book was written before the Wright brothers had flown.........

[@LightLeo111]

@@jagaloon216 and those writers got a lot of these ideas from our ancient ancestors. That's why there are basically biblical links to both Dune and War of the Worlds.

[@nelstar4676]

@ELEAZAR ABNER what the fuck are you talking about? take meds

[@St.Augustine-p7k]

@@LightLeo111 Yes, but 40k took directly from dune in so many ways. Not even a reinterpretation, just stolen.

[@BJJGamer]

@@St.Augustine-p7k Yeah no. While 40k absolutely took inspiration from Dune. But all the talk about 40k just being a rip off/shallow clone of Dune is horseshit. And I will fight any Dune fan that dares to say otherwise.

[@Kal_El1994]

The boys' changing room before a match against another school.

[@dwightanderson8331]

The mentat when startled by the leaders sudden stop and turn around took good advantage of the weather..........he pissed himself.

[@zenica12]

As Kant said; man is a metapphysical creature-. He or she will always be one. Be it now or 1000 years from now. This scene beautifully illustrates that notion.

[@spectrum838]

Amazing that they captured an Eagles tailgate in such high quality

[@M.H.I.A.F.T.]

I keep imagining that the chanter is going to segue into Awimbawe and the troops start doing a tribal dance.

[@Tommykey07]

So the Mentat travels all the way to the Sardaukar planet just to have a five minute conversation?

[@peterschorn1]

He would have just sent an e-mail, but there was that whole Butlerian Jihad thing...

[@krispinwahsghost5999]

3 Italians. As agreed

[@TheZombieman87]

3 battalions. ;/

[@craigsurette3438]

If you watch the 2000s tv miniseries version of the Sardukar, that isnt that far from the truth....

[@gatorhighlights4]

Interesting how Sardaukar looked invincible in Part One and got fucking wiped out in Part Two by worms and Fremen.

[@simonepecile7419]

Because the Fremen are stronger and more fanatical than they are, they fight without shields because in the desert this would attract worms

[@william719]

Agree. Never understood this change from Pt 1 to Pt 2.

[@dashans6175]

Three Battalions does not sound like much but I guess it depends on how many troops make up one in Dune.

[@spadabay3]

If I remember right in the book there where five Atreides Battalions in Arakis, and the Harkonen threw like 100 plus the Saardaukar...

[@spadabay3]

Plus it wasn’t many people that compose a battalion. Humanity was spread througout the universe, in many planets with “low” population. So you don’t need large forces to take over (once nukes and laser weapons were discorage because of the shields) mostly you need good forces to take over planets. Much like we see in the movie in the Harkonen invasion, there couldn’t be more than thousands in there, maybe, stretching by far, a million troops.

[@wintermooonwolf]

...how many battalions of world war two infantry could slaughter a division of hessian of 1780s?...

[@jefferydraper4019]

@@wintermooonwolf but the Saardaukar and the Atreides were basically technologically even unlike your analogy. In fact the Atreides may actually have been better armed in this case. Villanueve makes use of blades but even the Fremen had guns of a sort.

[@stuneil4804]

@@jefferydraper4019 Blades were the weapon of choice due to shields used widely throughout the empire. Other weapons, such as the maula pistol seen taken by Paul and the Lasgun used by the Sardaukar at the ecology station, were also widely available however, in the canon, lasguns were also sparingly used as the interaction between them and active shields yielded a nuclear like explosion. Projectile weapons that fired slower projectiles could be used as well.

[@timothylee8597]

THE MEMES THAT HAVE COME FROM THIS ARE THE BEST PART OF THIS SCENE

[@Kitchdmn3]

That eye at the end was a cool attention to detail for the creepiness of the scene.

[@flip97gt]

That's the sound I make when I call for a mate.

[@FreemanicParacusia]

Any luck yet?

[@flip97gt]

@@FreemanicParacusia not yet but working on it

[@FreemanicParacusia]

@@flip97gt Your pitch was too forced.

[@flip97gt]

@@FreemanicParacusia 😂

[@845835]

So mighty and yet they all died as if they were fighting with paper swords.

[@somerandomschmuck2547]

I like to imagine this is just how the Sardaukar relax between missions and training.

[@datemasamune2904]

Palpatine dropping mad beats in this scene.

[@adrianaron9639]

Those chants scared the shit out of me.

[@brianfoley4328]

The funniest "Comment" ever posted on You tube was someone who claimed the true translation of the Sardaukar chant is: " Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around and desert you".

[@finger3215]

How funny 😐😐😐

[@trisfenn]

They look strong here but they are so easily annilihated in the last movie !

[@paulcatindig2260]

That’s because they were only up against a heavily outnumbered atreides legions (already heavily implied to be on par with them). Then they went up against the fremen and they all realized that the fremen were actually the strongest “legions” in the galaxy. The fremen have long surpassed the atreides and sardukar a long time ago. They just haven’t fought in open warfare before so no one realized

[@costco_pizza]

@@paulcatindig2260 But the movie could at least have shown SOME fight scenes between the Sardaukar and the Fremen. Even the ones in the throne room all die off screen. When the Fremen are just "human cheat codes" it doesn't make the movie very fun at the end. All I was asking for was ONE Fremen dying to a Sardaukar. And they couldn't even show that.

[@robertbowser1846]

I really wish this film was rated R. Like that would make scenes like this way more metal.

[@mensrea1251]

Heaviest metal. 💯

[@TXAslingr]

Part 2 is rumored to be heavily violent

[@trueblue6201]

R rating is unnecessary. It also definitely would have cut into the films profits.

[@Embers-nd4vm]

@@TXAslingr still PG-13

[@TXAslingr]

@Embers-nd4vm fair. I was misled. I thought it would be mayhem but it was ok.

[@careylowell]

Note that their rank is a series of dots tattooed above the right eye

[@lazerunicorn7809]

Fun fact: The human sacrifices are failed recruits

[@aurelmatthews4164]

I never liked the design of the Saurdakar in the movies. The Fremen and the Harkonenn had a very unique and recognizable look, and there was obviously a lot of thought put into ethnicity and such. The Atreides had a more subtle, clean and "normal" design that fit well to the narrative. But the casting for the Saurdakar just seemed off for some reason. The actors all looked like regular, middle-aged scruffy dudes picked from a nearby pub. They did not come across as particularly tough or disciplined and overall just seemed to lack the same kind of identity and design that was given to the rest of the movie.

[@d1want34]

one thing that bothered me about this scene was how can the red color can be so thick when painted on their forehead when it's been mixed with massive amount rainwater in the pool.

[@maazahmed506]

Blood curdles at rtp in no time. They're most likely applying semi-liquid blood which would segregate from water even when mixed together.

[@sheeplaughsrecords]

You've heard the phrase, "blood is thicker than water?"

[@gloryboy_jayyy7321]

Crazy fact : the general guy plays scarecrow in Batman dark night

[@derekfancett8218]

Weirdly reminiscent of the Unsullied being paraded in Astapor, while GOT was still good.

[@chriswhite3692]

Gods, the writing was strong then.

[@unclegene5372]

Dothraki/fremen vibe strong as well.

[@paythefidler3252]

Why don't you look up GoT's ratings. It's STILL good...

[@MarkGoding]

A slightly lower pitched singing though.

[@ammanbansal2265]

Understandable, but just remember that this was before Star Wars and GOT.

[@denisdimitrov5051]

This is my most favorite scene in all movies ever! Dune 2 really disappointed me in terms of the Sardukar... but what can we do...

[@seanwalsh5717]

Nearly every soldier thinks he has god(s) on his side.

[@evancodsworth2]

0:28 that "hmmmmmmmm" hits different.

[@RegisTraiter]

At this point Dune is more grimdark than 40K, LOL.

[@michaeltschuertz]

please...

[@supremeverdict359]

Lol wh40k is a ripoff of Dune

[@cemoguz2786]

Nope we secrifice 10.000 very rare brain powered wizards to fed a person who can not even move his legs everyday. We torture very strong and successful worriors to make them spit acid. Dune has what humans torturing humans. We have specilized allien rece for that. They can only stay alive when they torture. Before they fucking murder fuck each other to the point their collective pain and plesures spawn a bdsm god. Also yea maybe 40k is really inspired by dune but dunes universe has noting. They do not even have alliens. Dune is boring sorry to say that but movie was boring.

[@scotthartman8993]

@@supremeverdict359 and a poor ripoff at that

[@michaeltschuertz]

​@@supremeverdict359 everybody is copying someone. the charm of 40k is the fact that they took every dystopian trope and turn it up to 11.

[@Brianboru88]

Pissing down with rain, typical English summer, lol!

[@ALIKN1-1]

Reminds me of ancient Assyria

[@birdman631]

What part of this reminds you of that?

[@NarasimhaDiyasena]

birdman631 likely the brutality of their warrior culture. Assyrians would do this to the Masons, but instead of the upside down blood letting it would be crucifixion and immolation. Masonry was originally a public school conveying an Esoteric Wisdom of Atlantis before the Assyrians slaughtered them to near extinction, turning it into a secret society.

[@ALIKN1-1]

@@birdman631 the army dedicated to only one thing ..... Destroy the enemies .....

[@ALIKN1-1]

@@NarasimhaDiyasena Assyria brutally eliminated all Elam civilisation and its citizens

[@Tounushi]

@@ALIKN1-1 I get it. A force raised and trained to do nothing else than take life, with every waking moment and every breath spent honing oneself to do this one job as well and as efficiently as possible. Then came Greece and soldiers had to know trades for the times when they weren't. Then came Rome and the soldiers had to be civil engineers as well. Fast forward to today, where many soldiers are glorified policemen and disaster recovery laborers.

[@aquilifergroup]

Sounds like a Hungarian politician talking to his European Union colleagues at The Hague.

[@laughy38247357075834]

I like how at 1:05 you can clearly make out what he says without subtitles. Probably because they say it so often

[@AcceptTheNull]

If there was ever is live action Futurama movie, David Dastmalchian would be a perfect ambassador from the Neutral planet.

[@kitkit6874]

The old one say there will be Mongolian throat singing while soldiers gets bathed in blood before they taste the thirst of a Unquenched planet.

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

Religion and Militarism has to be one of the scariest combinations humanity ever stumbled upon. Seriously a quick look through history and you can find countless examples and it literally creates some of the most deadly fighting forces ever mustered. Here's a few examples The Crusaders, Imperial Japan, any army from the middle east, Spartans, Vikings, any Barbarian tribe during the Roman era, the list goes on.

[@veramae4098]

If that's the best you've got, go read some history. "The Outline of History" by H.G. Wells is OLD, but on the other hand it starts with 4,000 years B.C.E. (B.C.). Only drops off after WW II. Terrific writer. Also wrote "War of the Worlds", "Time Machine", etc. Yes, really.

[@clintonmorgan9068]

Dan Carlin's hardcore history makes it real for me with every episode

[@ghian696]

Russia..?

[@nomdeguerre7265]

@@veramae4098 The man predicted nuclear weapons ... before the atomic nucleus was discovered.

[@joshuagraham2843]

but religion and militarism already exists

[@jamesalmazan1871]

0:10 this is the sound of my father when he is drunk while schooling me

[@kfw9257]

So the source of their strength is rain/water and their weakness? The desert...and giant sandworms, of course.

[@Ascending_Hope]

I can't stop thinking of the hamburger, cheeseburger, bigmac, whopper memes of this scene.

[@napoca7586]

These scene better, than dune part2. The Sardaukar are a joke in Part2. Villeneuve fucked it hard up.

[@Derg2003]

I dont see how. Fremen are just as good or better fighters than the Sardaukar. It’s even confirmed in the first movie by Duncan when he said he never came so close to dying when fighting a single Fremen. But when he fought Sardaukar? He was able to take on many.

[@costco_pizza]

@@Derg2003 No one disputes that, but they could have shown more fight scenes with the Sardaukar at least killing some Fremen. When the "protagonist" is just a human cheat code at the end it doesn't make for a very fun experience.

[@Zyvold]

@@costco_pizza Im no expert on Dune (havent read the books yet) but I don't think the point of the movie is to show how OP Paul is and his enemies are weak, it just do be like that (would like to know if the ending of part 2 is loyal to the books)

[@Derg2003]

@@ZyvoldThe ending is similar to the book. But in the book there isnt really action, Frank Herbert usually keeps his fight scenes short and vague. The movie has a full blown battle that we actually get to see.

[@mister_needles]

Mongolian overtones, Circassian undertones, Turkic language. These guys were born to fight to the death. Nice, Denis.

[@invalidname43]

wow ... nice to see a youtuber get the ending right to a video.

[@IvoPavlik]

Exactly

[@nicoleelbin9701]

I just realized the subtle hand movement the throat chanter makes is the same one Paul and then Stilgar do in Part 2. Their hands move into an almost straight line veering into the "Golden Path". Very good detail.

[@evita9284]

Translation for those who don't know: Sardaukar commander: Have you tried our food here yet? We serve coconuts with tea but I'm sure you are here for a different reason. Mentat: asks for army Commander: Ask them to come here. We will make coconuts for them. We will shave their armpits, make them drink armpit sweat. Mentat: Just so. Commander: Your armpits are sweaty. I am armpit fetish.

[@bernardus4646]

As the Bene Tleilax philosophers were known to say "lol"

[@stephenle-surf9893]

Doesn't make him a bad person. Just highly unusual.

[@Jordan-or8wu]

I knew thats what he was saying

[@tipdub]

Hahahaha wtf

[@mersenne2486]

@@stephenle-surf9893 what about those with scat fetish. I was once searching for some Japanese porn, where I landed on a website it had a menu with an option of "extreme" I clicked it out of curiosity and I was the biggest mistake of my life, It was the worst thing I ever saw, I can't believe This thing is not illegal. Those who are into it have mental disease and it should be banned and people making such content should be jailed. Why on earth is this thing being given a platform?

[@bunnyfreakz]

The rain is huge contrast of Arrakis.

[@LloydWaldo]

I didn’t notice the first several times that they were doing human sacrifices.

[@samsypoo]

Another commenter said that the book talks about those being killed in this scene. They were warriors in training that failed to meet expectations.

[@ThePlaton20]

@@samsypoo That must be a great recruiting pitch! "Be one of the few. One of the proud. One of the Saudarkar. But if you mess up we will crucify you upside down and let you bleed out while we do some wicked chanting"

[@ronaldtipton6035]

My favorite part of the books is where one of the Fremen says that "Some of them were good fighters", referring to the Sardukar they had just slaughtered.

[@danielefabbro822]

We must admits that this empire have quite interesting rave parties. 🤔

[@endarasman]

"We are Saudaukar, the Emperor’s blades. Those who stand against us, fall.” Shai-Hulud : Exactly, I'm falling on top of you...

[@essanance]

Pretty much a normal Saturday afternoon

[@TheCOOLEYDOG]

the relationship between soldiers and the "greater good/bigger picture" politicians that direct their objectives has always fascinated me.

[@MondoBeno]

Did Jodorowsky have a hand in making this movie? I see motifs from his movies here: the desert from El Topo, the pyramid with the sacrificed bodies from Holy Mountain, among others. A few of the scenes look like Mobius drawings.

[@zanbarbone5591]

Thank you, I was trying to place my finger on why this looked so familiar. Metabarons for the win

[@xDamage69]

Maybe Denis Villeneuve called him or maybe had a private conversation with him ?. After call i recall that Jodorowsky wanted to make dune with Dali and other big names in media

[@onbored9627]

I hate that I noticed this, but if you pay attention the guy is actually saying the lines in english and they dub it over with the sardokar language. I don't know if that's to give that offputting feel to the language and make it seem more guttural and throat orientatened than tongue, but either way it kinda was immersion breaking. If you don't believe me, go mute it and watch with subtitles. You'll see. Especially certain words like when he says "the emperor's blades".

[@Randoman590]

If we're being nitpicky, the Harkonnen mentat shouldn't be here at all, as I think in the books the origin of the Sardaukar was a closely guarded secret that would probably never be willingly revealed to anyone. It was deduced only by Thufir Hawat - it was part of why the Atreides sought to recruit the Fremen. The Sardaukar are the best warriors in the Imperium BECAUSE they come from a planet with such a hostile environment and awful living conditions where only the strong survive. That planet MUST be Salusa Secundus. And Arrakis is even worse, therefore the Fremen would make even better warriors. But, the cinematography of this scene overshadows that nitpick for me. The chanting here almost has a quality of Mongolian throat singing to it, and yet it's even more alien than that.

[@evenstarelectricrailway3281]

Well it is because the emperor plotted all this with House Harkonen being his designated executioner. The mentat was sent to discuss the details by the Harkonen on the emperor's content. Everything is, like the Sardaukar bashaar said, "the emperor wills it" and will definitely be done.

[@NATIK001]

@@evenstarelectricrailway3281 Salusa Secundus was still a complete secret. It was one of a number of secret worlds in the Dune universe, mostly held by the Spacing Guild though as they controlled interstellar travel. The Emperor kept Salusa Secundus secret to make sure the source of the Sardaukar was a mystery, both so it couldn't be attacked, but primarily so the secret behind their power could not be deduced and used by others. The Harkonnen would never be allowed to set foot there, no matter how important the plans of the Emperor was. In the books their planning never happen on Salusa Secundus, at least until House Corrino is exiled there much later, when the exiled former emperor would live out his days on the planet and plot from there.

[@manchesterunitedno7]

Sardaukar language sounds like a hodge podge of several Scandinavians lumped into one.

[@supercheese7033]

haha, borkin borkin borkin, bananananannanana spleet.

[@DMotivationals]

Is it just me or does it sound like "wind your body...wiggle your belly..."

[@IfbbProRolandcHazard]

Its just you.

[@soyhunter7600]

this was my favorite scene in the movie. the energy they took to create something truly menacing and while retaining the relationship between something we understand and something alien is not lost on me. the first time i saw this i actually thought "oh shit"