Impossible to Find Neutral? Use This Trick!

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Is it nearly impossible to find neutral? Or is your bike seemingly always hard to shift? It's possible you're not doing anything wrong, and this little hack could be the trick you've been desperately looking for.
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[@NoUNotMeOk]

White lithium grease is the worst grease to use because it adheres to metal very well making it perfect lubricant for metal to metal surfaces, as well as being high heat resistant and waterproof. All these things are bad for bearings because now you won't buy replacement bearings so the bearing manufacturer is going to go out of business, crashing the world economy. So in short, your grease choice caused the global recession

[@GeordiLaForgery]

lol 🙂

[@bryanthorne3474]

you win.

[@bootz0409]

Bahahaha.... at first you had me.... by end of reading your comment, I was in stitches of laughter and will buy nothing but white grease in future. Lol. Awesome psychology!!

[@Ntmoffi]

"They Had Us in the First Half, Not Gonna Lie."

[@kenwolfe5697]

This is why you should think before just slathering on white lithium grease. Thanks man

[@gerrycout7845]

Well, I’ve been in motorcycles for over 35 years and I had never heard of this before. Granted, none of my bikes were ever hard to find neutral or to shift but I’m glad I learnt something new. Thanks. Great video.

[@aas061]

I’ve got one of these shift supports from Racetorx on my paniagle v2, and It really transforms the shifter. I have not had problems finding neutral, but man does shifting feel nice and tight now!!

[@rszewczyk]

Terrible advice. I did everything as instructed and now my roommate wants to talk... I bet it is not about finding neutral...

[@CanyonChasers]

ROFL!

[@machinedgod]

Aside useful information, subtle and not-so-subtle humour sprinkled in really catches me off guard in the best way possible 😂

[@CanyonChasers]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jens_67]

Thank you, man! I never had problems with getting in neutral - was just curious to see what you would recommend. Now I will dream of shiftshafts(h)ellers and second hand toothbrushes. Please give uns more tipps like this. And maybe some more housekeeping advice, too! ;-) Jens

[@bobholley6202]

Great vid. I have found that I have to adjust the shift lever a good bit depending on my boots. I go back and forth between Adv boots for on road touring and my Tech 10 boots for off road. Only takes a second or two. I have two center punch marks, one for each boot. It makes it quick and easy.

[@CanyonChasers]

Great tip!

[@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8]

Robb Muzzy first invented that product, shift shaft support in 1992 for his Kawasaki ZX7 Superbikes. I remember buying one.

[@crasher22w]

Thanks for the good advice. I have Tuono V4 Factory 22' and sometimes its difficult to find neutral. :-) I have to wait until my warranty expires.

[@CanyonChasers]

Installing this will not void your warranty 👍

[@TheBadMadMan786]

This is a great mod on my CBR600RR, really cleans up the shifts, especially noticeable when used in conjunction with aftermarket rearsets which already tightens up the gear shift action. Both up and down shifts are crisper. Used with a QS is even more betterer.

[@Drawbacklol]

Used one of these from a different brand on my CB1000R SC60 and it shifted a lot better, night and day difference.

[@twowheelzen48150]

Make sense and thank you for your advice. More importantly you are posting videos again, so the lone motorcycle dude on the side of the road myself and the police officer don't have to sit on the side of the road sobbing for hours singing kumbaya because we miss our bro!!! I know KZbin sucks pretty bad these days. Is there another platform you are more active on? I'll spread the word here in Michigan...

[@greyanaroth]

I have this. On my last 3 bikes. But the aprilia is still a pain to find neutral on when the engine is running ugh.

[@lukeorlando4814]

Any advice is appreciated. So thank you. My experience. And I have no idea how this works I only know is that it works having done it many times. Whenever I my bike is being funny finding neutral. I have checked my chain tension. Found it to be loose. Corrected it and my bike has shifted proper. If you understand how that works please teach me. It makes no sense to me.

[@russellstokke6888]

Interesting! I just got a CBR600RR, and it is super difficult to get into neutral. I saw one of these spindle supports on Sato’s website, but had no idea what it was for. I already adjusted the clutch lever and pedal.

[@TheBadMadMan786]

Giles also makes on for the CBR600RR

[@asturiancetorix2552]

In some motorcycles it´s easier to find neutral if you actuate the lever while the machine it´s still moving, in the previous moments to stop completely.

[@deauvilledad07]

Great little hack Dave. Great video, can we have more short videos like this. Stay safe, ride well 🤓

[@gnarlock3927]

I enjoyed this 😁 thank you

[@soujrnr]

Say "shift shaft" fast six times..... Good to see you, Dave! I always wait very anxiously for your videos as they are my favorite!! Ride safe, brother! Great music selection, by the way!!

[@CanyonChasers]

Thanks 👍

[@elonmust7470]

I keep meaning to get a shift shaft support for my l7 gsxr 1000.

[@rafaellastracom6411]

I guess the 2-bolt flange mounts are standard across different motorcycles? If so, it´s a great idea.

[@984francis]

I put one on my RC51. The shifts are much cleaner.

[@FranknBerry05]

Thanks for sharing what does she sell at the sea shore 😅

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Why don't msnufput this in if it helps shifts. Wouldn't cost much en mass in a factory ? How much after sales?

[@CanyonChasers]

I don't know. It is a service item that needs to be cleaned and re-greased depending on how wet/grimey of an environment you ride in... So maybe thats why?

[@michaelvachon1334]

"...your buddy's toothbrush..." Love it!!~

[@WJRobbins125]

Good stuff as always!

[@CanyonChasers]

Thanks again!

[@arod944]

I was just wondering today why my 765RS either can’t find neutral or stays in neutral from 1-2. My cable doesn’t seem to have too much slack in it, so down to the shift linkage I go!

[@warrenjrose]

Is this where aftermarket quick shifters install?

[@CanyonChasers]

Not usually. Aftermarket quickshifters replace the adjustable shift rod (most often)

[@carver7689]

I've never seen one of those doodads before. If you remember in the future, I'd like to hear what you think about it after a few hard rides.

[@CanyonChasers]

Several hard rides later, the difference wasn't dramatic, but it was noticeable. I didn't really have problems finding neutural, but the quick shifting on track is a bit more precise.

[@carver7689]

@@CanyonChasers Neat!

[@SiGoodchild1]

Great vid. “Yes please” to the offer of more like this.

[@1mandanceparty]

I have a 2012 triumph Daytona 675r and neutral is very difficult to get. I’ve found a possible solution in a different detente mechanism but it involves getting inside the transmission. Would this be a good stop gap to try out? Thanks

[@CanyonChasers]

I've replaced a lot of shift stars myself. It's a bit more involved because you have to open the engine case.

[@AwTheGears]

Mrs Gears bought a brand new 125cc Chinese brand (won't say which one) bike a few years ago, and I rode it into the dealers for its run in service. I told the 'mechanic' that when stopped, the bike wouldn't go out of 1st gear into neutral at all. I had to rock the bike back and forward to get it out of gear... Seeing the L Plate on the bike, his reply was "Motorbike gearboxes are different from cars. You need to rock them back and forwards..." 😮 To which I gladly informed him that I'd been riding bikes for over a decade and NEVER had to rock one back and forward." Needless to say, I did the work on the bike myself and told them to shove the warranty! 😂😂😂

[@lukeorlando4814]

Everytime my bike starts being weird about finding neutral and clunking into gear I check my chain tension. Dunno why. But it’s always loose when these problems arise and correcting it helps.

[@CanyonChasers]

Everything is connected, right?

[@lukeorlando4814]

@@CanyonChasers it’s not something I’m doing frequently. Rather an observation I have made over decades of riding.

[@stevemoore9951]

GREETINGS FROM THE PPRC GREAT VIDEO TODAY.🇺🇸🏍️

[@steve00alt70]

Sitting in traffic you find the green neutral light then let go of the clutch then you jolt forward stalling the bike.

[@pmdinaz]

If it doesn't have a quickshifter, I just replace the entire linkage with a shift lever from a dirtbike. Worked great on my 09 Speed Triple. He put the toothbrush back..lol

[@rickholmwood2000]

I call my neutral the G spot. Not entirely convinced it even exists.

[@FlesHBoX]

Oh man! She Sore! But seriously, I think neutral might be hanging out with the 10mm sockets.

[@bootz0409]

Regardless of the negative comments, if its recommended by this guy, its kosher!

[@MotoDude1967]

I didn't know that existed...thanks!

[@pax1980]

Something that wasn't mentioned. These types of supports require regular maintenance. The needle bearing is not sealed and will need regular greasing if you don't want it to seize up on your shaft. The other thing I'd probably mention is that these are pretty much snake-oil when it comes to shift quality. There is not enough force in the shift drum to cause any significant flex in the shaft during rotation. That is unless something is seriously wrong, in which case you should be servicing your transmission not bolting on an overpriced needle bearing. It might offer some shear protection to the shaft in the event of an accident, but I suspect that would be pretty situational. Save your money for tires...

[@tamasnyaka594]

Other thing that was not mentioned is the change that thingy made. I suppose all we saw was an advertisement.

[@kovrcek]

There is a rubber seal on both sides. Same as your dog bone. And in that it lasts thousand even when offroading. So on a road motorcycle where it's not even exposed to water like an offroad machine is (water crossings, mud) I don't think you will ever need to grease them.

[@pax1980]

@@kovrcek No, it is only sealed on the front, the rear is open to all the grit and jump the sprocket can pull in. I know because I threw money away on one of these for a speed triple a few years back.

[@PowerOfOne-u4h]

I like a good shift shaft by the sea shore...... careful. lol

[@CanyonChasers]

🤣

[@gaiahorn]

Not having a support isn't why people are not finding neutral. Having the shifter properly set and lubed will fix issues.

[@kiddouble-o-two293]

"She sells shift shafts by the sea shore " nice one

[@fiording]

… or buy Honda DCT. 😉 I’m very happy owner of NT 1100 DCT since two years, and I’m still surprised how great it is. 😁

[@sekaf4125]

good video

[@kurta02]

"use your roommates toothbrush" That's a subscribe right there.

[@CanyonChasers]

I'm not using _my_ toothbrush. Thats nasty!

[@luddite6239]

That's a neat little gizmo. But you might want to get some lube on the chain you used as an illustration at 0:19 - those links look very stiff and kinked. 😲

[@CanyonChasers]

Haha. Yeah. That’s a different bike that is very much in need of a new chain. Good eye!

[@luddite6239]

@@CanyonChasers ...and there's an extra 0.5 horsepower to be liberated too!

[@luddite6239]

Of course, joking aside, a badly adjusted or worn chain can also make gear selection difficult so it's always worth checking if you're having these problems.

[@jamescampolo7824]

How about when you find neutral between 4th and 5th? lol

[@CanyonChasers]

This can help with that as well!

[@jamescampolo7824]

It happens about twice a year on my 27year old Valkyriey, not a big deal. Neutral between 1st and 2nd is no problem. I bought it new. I expect the clutch to be used up soon, then I'll junk it. 114,000miles.

[@jamescampolo7824]

​@@CanyonChasersOnly happens when I race, at about 115mph.

[@nickhellen6303]

Obviously THAT’S the fault of the White Lithium Grease. The economic downturn-induced by this grease- has cut R&D budgets and curtailed proper engineering solutions.

[@ShaneVerhoogt]

Not really an issue for Kawasaki motorcycles, positive neutral finder...

[@bramweinreder2346]

She shoves shift shaft supports by the sea shore...

[@_kevin8427]

nr. 1 reason you cannot find neutral is Aprilia RS

[@SaltyOldBiker]

Or just buy a Kawasaki with a positive neutral finder (I have 3 hah!) 😂

[@CanyonChasers]

Thats a far scarier place to have it happen than Tooele turn because it's so much faster!

[@deadslow201]

It would be great if someone invented N-1-2-3-4-5-6 gear pattern and would use it in main stream bikes...

[@charlesbynum]

My '69 H1 had Neutral on the bottom of 5. It eliminated catching N on the way to 2nd but it also precluded catching N and coasting to a stop. I think most riders didn't like it.

[@virupakshawalla5734]

Doesn't need much inventing lol. Old Indian bike i have is 5 down. You can put it in neutral by mistake which no big deal in local traffic but its nice to know your in 1st at stops and hairpins

[@iNFiN3]

Not using bacon grease to grease up your bearings, what an amateur.

[@Harley.Davidson]

😂

[@nugginusslover476]

Buy a Kawasaki There, I fixed it 😄

[@Next2Null]

Came here to say this☠️ although I do miss popping it into neutral before I'm completely stopped.

[@CanyonChasers]

Except, did you know it was invented specifically for 92 Kawasaki ZX7?

[@nugginusslover476]

@@CanyonChasers No I didn't know that and it doesn't seem to be true. There are a lot of posts of older Kawasakis that have it...

[@taylorhickman84]

out of the various bikes I've owned, the 1st gen zx-10r had the best feeling transmission, the 2nd gens were good too, but my 4th gen is kinda clunky. That said, no problems finding neutral, unlike the suzuki and Ducati I had.

[@nugginusslover476]

@@taylorhickman84 I have no problem at all finding neutral with my sv 650, sometimes I even find it between 4th and 5th😉

[@zeplin4078]

Lol

[@a124as]

All this to find neutral?

[@CanyonChasers]

And to make shifting more precise and to protect from damage in a crash

[@NoUNotMeOk]

I still can't find neutral, I think it ran away

[@danielpoothokaren]

What about for those who find false neutrals in between 5th and 6th🥲.... kinda regularly 😂

[@CanyonChasers]

This also helps with that. 👍

[@warrenjrose]

Look up " shift star"