Improper Integral - Infinity in Upper and Lower Limits

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Patrick J

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Improper Integral - Infinity in Upper and Lower Limits - In this video, I do an improper integral with positive infinity in the upper limit of integration and negative infinity in the lower limit of integration.
In order to evaluate this integral, we break the integral into two separate integrals and use limits. To perform the integration we need to use a u-substitution.

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@TallminJ
@TallminJ 12 жыл бұрын
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@WaylonWillieNMe 15 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 16 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 14 жыл бұрын
@xTPTBx if you bust up the integral, and one side diverges, then we say the whole integral diverges. it is possible for one side to go to +infinity while the other goes to -infinity. we still say divergent.
@nageerahimee7691
@nageerahimee7691 9 жыл бұрын
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@Yemmers
@Yemmers 11 жыл бұрын
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@conwayvidz
@conwayvidz 10 жыл бұрын
Finish the video before commenting, he corrects the infinity mistake
@GlobalWarming_x
@GlobalWarming_x 10 жыл бұрын
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@garora10
@garora10 8 жыл бұрын
I don't attend my lectures at the university because I have your videos as a backup.....!!! amazing stuff ,got all this at one shot :)
@yuhoseok47
@yuhoseok47 8 жыл бұрын
I love you Patrick. You are my best teacher since when I took AP calculus in high school. You are now way better than my professor..
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 8 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help you and sorry about your prof :)
@Kiksaruti
@Kiksaruti 11 жыл бұрын
The answer in the end is actually 0. You should have -1/3 convergant from the first integral and 1/3 from the second integral which means that the entire problem converges to 0.
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 12 жыл бұрын
very happy to help :)
@djcbob5847
@djcbob5847 9 жыл бұрын
Thank so much sir you really made maths so easy for me nowadays before i attend the lectures i always do watch your videos and things pretty work well for me in the class.
@mryamgirmay4200
@mryamgirmay4200 9 жыл бұрын
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@Syruscleat
@Syruscleat 16 жыл бұрын
Dude, I may have made fun of your glasses which was improper, but you're right on the money when it comes to explaining mathematics. Bravo!
@violetdebeer1857
@violetdebeer1857 3 жыл бұрын
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@alfredoizg789 9 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 13 жыл бұрын
@SecantSquared well, the calculus stuff is all in order for the most part. the rest i am in the process of getting organized.
@MrTozef
@MrTozef 7 жыл бұрын
I have a final tomorrow and you are a life saver.
@catlovegeeks2596
@catlovegeeks2596 9 жыл бұрын
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@kurenairox125
@kurenairox125 11 жыл бұрын
I hate improper integrals but you explained these so well that I actually understand them much better than I did in class. THANK YOU!!! =)
@CieLyss
@CieLyss 12 жыл бұрын
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@zoom2121
@zoom2121 14 жыл бұрын
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@michaellu9995
@michaellu9995 9 жыл бұрын
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@thisBLUEsweater
@thisBLUEsweater 8 жыл бұрын
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@EstrellasBakery
@EstrellasBakery 6 жыл бұрын
Probably not their first language.. At least he tried.
@fkncompton7124
@fkncompton7124 6 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Soto I mean at least he’s trying. He’ll get better with practice, as English is obviously not his primary language
@calum303
@calum303 8 жыл бұрын
I was about to type out a whole thing about how you forgot the negative on the limit, but then I looked at how I solved this before watching the full video and I, in fact, forgot the negative on the 1/3 in the integration. :D Those pesky signs!
@juancedillo02
@juancedillo02 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saving me from failing more times that I can count
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 16 жыл бұрын
well, if the limits existed in both integrals, you would get two finite numbers, and combine them. integration does not exactly tell you area unless both functions are positive...
@ErickJuarezJr
@ErickJuarezJr 12 жыл бұрын
your videos have helped me so much in my college calculus class! thank you!
@quanta407
@quanta407 13 жыл бұрын
I think I found my error, but you can still work the problem if you have time. You are an excellent teacher.
@valentinahernandezc
@valentinahernandezc 11 жыл бұрын
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@azizsharaf1468
@azizsharaf1468 10 жыл бұрын
Nobody teaches like him !!! you're awesome patrick
@arielartista93
@arielartista93 11 жыл бұрын
Patrick saves the day AGAIN. ^^
@cuteNOBITA
@cuteNOBITA 12 жыл бұрын
i got confuse at first too by the same question, but thanx for your explanation, it gets me clear :)
@tvoros17
@tvoros17 14 жыл бұрын
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@TheCkeck
@TheCkeck 12 жыл бұрын
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@mo15hassan
@mo15hassan 12 жыл бұрын
when a half of the broken down limits equal to infinity. ((1/3)*infinity - (1/3)) = infinity which means it's a divergent, but if it doesn't equal to infinity but it rather equals to an actual number, then you have to work out the other half and figure out whether it equal to infinity or a number. if that one equals to a number as well then you have to do the math to add both numbers; in that case it would be convergent. the example pat worked out turned out to be divergent.
@21chuck
@21chuck 16 жыл бұрын
your videos are excellent and cover all the topics I need, thanks for putting these up!
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 16 жыл бұрын
well, infinity is not a number, and it should not be treated like one
@imad644
@imad644 6 жыл бұрын
He forgot to put in negative infinity at 4:07 He does realize this later in the video though. Just adding this in case you want your notes to be neat :)
@nutacorn
@nutacorn 11 жыл бұрын
It's hard to find all the videos now that you upgraded to the new youtube channel look :/ I really liked that the videos were grouped into sections by semester/class. Appreciate all the hard work though, great videos.
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@PeeteZa 13 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 13 жыл бұрын
@MathIsMyAchilles it is really impossible for me to say what you would need to do to catch up since i really have no idea about your situation. the best thing would be to speak to your prof!!
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@patrickjmt 14 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 13 жыл бұрын
@Milioo93 because it is not a finite number
@Sharpryno
@Sharpryno 13 жыл бұрын
I know I cannot be the only one watching 30 of the these videos the day before the Calc2 final.
@zacharybohl8761
@zacharybohl8761 12 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 15 жыл бұрын
ha! someone i spoke to about 2 hours ago told me the same thing!!
@wildcaterick1992
@wildcaterick1992 13 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I learned a lot however I will disagree that -1/3e^(-t^3) goes to infinity because isn't -1/3e^(-t^3) the same as -1/(3e^(t^3)) which means that you would have a number divided by infinity which equals 0. Which also means that we will need to do the other side you stopped at right? Thank you for the video it did help a lot!
@TheCoolfez
@TheCoolfez 12 жыл бұрын
because he reverted back to the x. There are two methods of doing u substitutions. You can revert back to the x (or whatever you replaced with you) and not change any bounds. Or you can keep the you and change the bounds.
@mohammadahmermalick7869
@mohammadahmermalick7869 7 жыл бұрын
really just in 8 min, amazing. I dont even believe myself that i get it.
@TamirisAlves93
@TamirisAlves93 7 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone i can understand!
@xSlyhawk
@xSlyhawk 11 жыл бұрын
1/3(e^-3 ( -infinity)) is 1/3 (e^infinity) with the e^infinity on the top, not the bottom. Therefore it is not 0 it is infinity and it diverges.
@AmoraBrown
@AmoraBrown 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick!
@MaiLilSpace
@MaiLilSpace 9 жыл бұрын
i wish i would've found this channel sooner
@quiteqwerty
@quiteqwerty 12 жыл бұрын
Q: On the last step, why isn't e^-t^3 equal to 1/(e^t^3)? [If that were the case, it would be 1/infinity, or zero.]
@aineshbalaga1216
@aineshbalaga1216 6 жыл бұрын
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@Monsterenergy791
@Monsterenergy791 14 жыл бұрын
Great explanation...not a surprise :-) Keep up the great work!
@PurpleCanuck
@PurpleCanuck 12 жыл бұрын
You just answered your own question...If one side is divergent the whole thing is divergent...so if only one side is convergent, then that means the other side must be divergent and, ta-daaa it's all divergent!
@maleeh_
@maleeh_ 10 жыл бұрын
wow Patrick that is great,,, thanks!!!
@varuninnz
@varuninnz 13 жыл бұрын
you are a legend
@brilliantfranz
@brilliantfranz 16 жыл бұрын
Patrick you glasses rock, we all love them, pretty nice explanation, as always. Next week Ill be having an exam about integration methods and improper integrals. btw what about if both limits existed and e.g. as you said it equals 1/2 Would that 1/2 represent some area?
@romanceintherain
@romanceintherain 14 жыл бұрын
the limit of -1/3* e^(-t^3) as t approaches infinity equals 0.
@JonathanDuncan2
@JonathanDuncan2 14 жыл бұрын
Question: If the first integrand diverges to -infinity, and the second integrand diverges to positive infinity, are we to apply L'Hopital's Rule somehow, since upon combining them, they neutralize each other? or choose different parameters in creating the two expressions? Or do they still, somehow, diverge?
@jacob_he_reads
@jacob_he_reads 16 жыл бұрын
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@dezbs
@dezbs 14 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Super helpful!
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@jessicakim8 9 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt 9 жыл бұрын
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@carterg1522 8 жыл бұрын
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@chancekelly274 7 жыл бұрын
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@adriatikiljazi1822
@adriatikiljazi1822 7 жыл бұрын
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@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 13 жыл бұрын
@Krazyarab69 thank ya very much : )
@Jy-168
@Jy-168 11 жыл бұрын
That should be zero 1/3(e^3)--0 as it approaches to infinity!
@tckelly38
@tckelly38 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much PatrickJMT! are you afraid to use tabular integration? cheers!
@notabot301
@notabot301 11 жыл бұрын
means that there is no definite solution, that it either goes off to infinite or negative infinite. convergent has a definite answer.
@MoroccoFriendofUSA
@MoroccoFriendofUSA 15 жыл бұрын
Sorry Patrick but Grem is correct. The limit of the first part should be -1/3. Infinity is in the denominator, thus the limit equals 0 at your point.
@Kiksaruti
@Kiksaruti 11 жыл бұрын
The answer at the end of this video is wrong!! He mixed up negative infinity and positive infinity towards the end! at 6:30 e^ NEGATIVE infinity = 0!! So it is actually a convergent!
@terryyu7104
@terryyu7104 8 жыл бұрын
3:54, when u plug the value of u in , don't we need to do the integral? it seems u just copy the above integral without the writing down the ∫ and du.
@pyschoclown1023
@pyschoclown1023 6 жыл бұрын
Terry Yu yeah he should have multiplied that by -1/3 right??
@dilekyildirim6811
@dilekyildirim6811 8 жыл бұрын
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@mollylin7513
@mollylin7513 10 жыл бұрын
thank you for making these videos^^ it helped alot~~
@sprinkleOFkawaii
@sprinkleOFkawaii 15 жыл бұрын
could u post some more improper integral probs? i saw all of them but i think just another hard prob or 2 would reinforce it better : ) please and thank u
@Weeeman5872
@Weeeman5872 15 жыл бұрын
When you split up the integral, would it have been okay to flip the limits of integration on the first part. As this would allow you to use the same variable (which shows it has no solution as they cancel out?)
@justinetheasian
@justinetheasian 9 жыл бұрын
When I did this problem I did both integrals when you split them up. I got - 1/3 and + 1/3, making it converging to zero...the only difference I did is that when you split it up, i did the first integral as lim as t -> infinity of the integral from - t to 0, instead of the lim as t -> - infinity of the integral from t to 0. HELP.
@bhekimpilondhlela2756
@bhekimpilondhlela2756 8 жыл бұрын
I did the same and the integral was not converging, I got 1/3 when t -> infinity.
@sramjee3684
@sramjee3684 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@nickkowalski7979
@nickkowalski7979 5 жыл бұрын
If you have an even function and you want to integrate it from -infinity to infinity, can you use the even integral property and evaluate the integral from 0 to infinity and multiply the result by 2 to get the answer?
@22christos
@22christos 12 жыл бұрын
not very good video quality at this one. anw you are the best thank you very much, you help me a lot!
@ARosstube
@ARosstube 14 жыл бұрын
I Appreciate the video
@maartenmtr3022
@maartenmtr3022 8 жыл бұрын
Why do we need to split up the integral into 2 parts? (1 going from -infinity to 0 and the other going from 0 to +infinity) Don't we get the same answer when we evaluate the integral with the original limits of integration in 1 go (from -infinity to +infinity) and then work out the limit?
@10tigro
@10tigro 13 жыл бұрын
hii Patrick! soo you don't do new limits of integration with u? because I 've learned that if you do u-sub you have to have new limits of integration in terms of u so you don't go back to x
@muzikk67
@muzikk67 12 жыл бұрын
I thought the negative next to the t, means you flip it and put the number in the denominator. And if that indeed is true, that expression would approach zero, right? Meaning that the first half convergent. I'm confused
@LeeHyomi
@LeeHyomi 12 жыл бұрын
@kevin93939: it's e^-(-inf) = e^+inf
@ibrahimxbashir
@ibrahimxbashir 7 жыл бұрын
What if you have an equation where one half gives infinity and the other gives negative infinity, would their sum be 0 and then be convergent?
@coldstopdrop
@coldstopdrop 8 жыл бұрын
around 5 minutes shouldnt the limit be set to as (lim as t approaches -infinity)? you wrote positive, idk if that was a mistake but im lost XD
@aniciainoki
@aniciainoki 8 жыл бұрын
he did then he fixed it
@xTPTBx
@xTPTBx 14 жыл бұрын
Will problems ever ask what an improper integral diverges to? You found out that the first integral (from -infinity to 0) diverges to +infinity, but what if the second integral (from 0 to +infinity) diverges to -infinity. Then you are left with +infinity+(-infinity) which is indeterminate...then what do you do? Or is that not even possible? Thanks
@KandiceKardison
@KandiceKardison 12 жыл бұрын
he did not plug in t --> infinity, but t --> negative infinity, so the exponential term turns out to be infiniy :)
@mohannadislaieh3009
@mohannadislaieh3009 6 жыл бұрын
Nice thank u bro
@mTnX1
@mTnX1 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrBlash93
@MrBlash93 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Kevin93939
@Kevin93939 12 жыл бұрын
This might be ridiculous but at around 7:20, when you have e^ -inf, why does that go to infinity? For example, if you have e^ -2, that is 1 / e^2, so isn't this 1/e^inf which should be equal to 1/inf which should equal 0?
@integraleric
@integraleric 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this :-)
@TheCoolfez
@TheCoolfez 12 жыл бұрын
"(or whatever you replaced with you)" I meant (or whatever you replaced with U)
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 14 жыл бұрын
@tvoros17 thanks : )
@ERPC117
@ERPC117 12 жыл бұрын
Isn't it that when you use u-sub to find definite integrals, your upper and lower limits change?
@gamma_dablam
@gamma_dablam 5 жыл бұрын
Well ... one of them is 0, and the other is infinity. So it ends up not mattering here. Though the signs need to be taken care of
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