"U don't ever have to step your foot into this godforsaken place called dragonstar arena" 😂
@Phedro162 ай бұрын
that was the best part of the video¡ 🤣
@nobodynothing14692 ай бұрын
You do, for perfected puncturing remedy
@abd-qadirgilani88712 ай бұрын
@@nobodynothing1469 Which is not needed anymore thanks to how customizable Shield Throw is + the Druid's Braid + Trainee combo existing. Whatever perf bonus you'd get from vDSA isn't worth it anymore.
@seifer4472 ай бұрын
@nobodynothing1469 Friend, you didn't watch the video. Shield throw taunts and heals, which is what you wanted from puncturing remedy anyway. The armor bonus is irrelevant if you have max armor. 2% healing taken is the only thing you're losing. And the shield throw outheals punturing remedy anyway.
@thyagomacedo59602 ай бұрын
Im one item away in stickerbook to never strp in this place again. One of those sets nobody uses. Used the place to level companions too, bit since stickerbook will be complete and all achoevements get, no reason to ever going back.
@LunaCairu2 ай бұрын
I've been explaining the wall of elements + susceptibility interaction for so long now... I'm glad you made this video. The animation will make much easier for people to finally understand it.
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
I actually learned it from you, you mentioned this interaction on Skinny's discord some time ago
@LunaCairuАй бұрын
@@Hyperioxes well, i'm glad i could contribute with some information after all, cause the amount of stuff i learned from you could not be written in a single message lol
@Order_SixtySixАй бұрын
Amazing video, the slides and tables you used for the comparison were absolutely amazing. Very high quality video!
@musematt2 ай бұрын
Great stuff - would love to see more mechanics for buffs/debuffs explained like this.
@PamplamoussАй бұрын
I will try this evolution for my futur dungeons ! Thank again for your work !
@JoshakaShadow22 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for all of your in-depth guides, written or video. I truly appreciate your explanations and I also love the numbers (I'm a developer, so explanations and numbers are my jam). I typically play a dps but was getting bored so I decided to start a new dragonknight char and am going to tank on it thanks to your guides! Also realized I wasn't subscribed so I subscribed. Can't wait to see what else you come up with
@neaumusicАй бұрын
exactly the sort of video I was hoping for, what a good combination... on dragonknight, as you mentioned you'd get more resources -- better gear and engulfing flames instead of noxious breath. I'm using a tormenter set and charge to taunt, heal, and buff resistance, currently running cowards gear / lava soup for stamina uptime (focused on the crit damage bc the 100% crit chance from charge), but I needed an improvement for more damage / tank depending which way I'm going. was reading through the staff abilities which I dont have unlocked, google searched that one because it had no magicka cost and seemed op, and your video popped up
@P1MPINSINSE19972 ай бұрын
Not me in the KZbin comments and the Reddit thread asking about it 🫣 Seriously tho, thank you for these guides Hyper. They’ve helped me tremendously since getting back into ESO after a 3+ year break. Cheers.
@ZephioGaming2 ай бұрын
It’s been like this since ever, it’s the same thing with Nunatak, while it states that it applies major brittle for 4s, the DOT that is supposed to proc major brittle on the target also reapplies it for the full duration it ticks (which is 4s) leaving you with a total of 8s of major brittle
@kevino.rivera25562 ай бұрын
Right? is this why Nunatak alone can get around 50% uptime of major brittle alone? Everytime I checked logs of our group trolling the nunatak+naz interaction we still got a solid 50-55% uptime on nunatak which while difficult to play around its still miles better than 20-25% and it being wasted.
@Nishiluke2 ай бұрын
Great video! I've also swapped to this setup after seeing some of your comments on the reddit. One thing I'm unsure about is the arcanist taunt, and how that compares to shield throw.
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
Arcanist taunt is worth running for the penetration and armor even when you're already using Shield Throw
@jonnvessel6 күн бұрын
Interesting stuff. Piercing is also my taunt. Did I miss you cover those options?
@The_Forseti2 ай бұрын
ZOS devs hate him for this one trick!
@timg26552 ай бұрын
Interesting! I also learned recently absorb stamina enchant procs minor breach?
@Mr-Evil-Dave2 ай бұрын
That's the Sunder Status Effect coming from the glyph doing "physical" damage.
@user-io5jb5gk8cАй бұрын
Thank you ❤
@SirBanana19922 ай бұрын
are you able to block mid cast of shield throw? I believe that would make no sense if you could since well the shield is out of your hands. Just curious.
@MashMalloman2 ай бұрын
Yes, you can block unarmed or with any other weapon, it's not really your shield, it's like a magic effect in front of your character if you're looking for real world logic although idk why when it's an mmorpg fantasy game :p
@roscuro98382 ай бұрын
But what if I don't have skill crafting yet? SOL?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
You should stay with the old setup if you don't have scribing
@roscuro98382 ай бұрын
@@Hyperioxes :(
@TheRoibm2 ай бұрын
Fun Fact , i was messing around with Addons lately. Came to Untaunted. Saw it had debuff trackers. Tried out Crusher, Major Breach, Minor Breach with Ele Sus and Wall on a skele dummy. Saw the exact same stuff you just showed in thi video. My conclusion: Nah its bugged. 💀
@t3vvyАй бұрын
Really interesting stuff, and definitely going to change how a lot of people tank! I was just wondering if you would switch back to puncturing remedy where there's health scaling damage, since the extra health from druid and trainee becomes a negative there. e.g. fights like Bahsei, Yaseyla, Zmaja?
@HyperioxesАй бұрын
I wouldn't change back to Puncturing Remedy specifically but yeah you can use sets other than Druid's Braid and Trainee, on Yaseyla I simply double-barred my Saxh which was only on backbar before so it gave me 2 max stamina stat lines on frontbar which boosted some heals by quite a bit
@dasyeah26952 ай бұрын
great thx did obv not know that
@thejusticecrusade2 ай бұрын
Awesome video! And very cool battleground footage! Have you considered a pvp dragonknight build for the new battlegrounds or anything pvp related?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
I was considering it but I have too much other work to do right now
@nedive2 ай бұрын
What would be the ideal sets and setup for 4 man content (trifectas), also for someone who has no access to scribing skills, thanks.
@gmerser2 ай бұрын
Hi! As I understand it, this is good in the dungeons. But wouldn't it be better to use a staff instead of a shield and sword? Wouldn't Taunt with Undaunted be better, which gives synergy for dd?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
They don't exclude each other, you can use both Shield Throw and Inner Rage when you have the bar space for it. Inner Rage provides around 2% group DPS increase. Though yes, in very easy fights you can just replace Shield Throw instead of running both, but for most fights Major Maim is too important to give up.
@kingindy2 ай бұрын
don't worry.. after every tank starts doing this ZOS will change it because "reasons".
@EdEM902 ай бұрын
Not sure about shield throw as a main taunt skill. Ive noticed sometimes it doesn’t agro the way it should.
@SFSCoby2 ай бұрын
Nice, i'll share this with the tanks in my group. I'm still a bit confused how this compares to the double Icestaff Setups of the past. Is double staff outdated or are there fights where double staff would be better?
@daggerwulf3382 ай бұрын
you cant use shield throw without a sword/shield
@NikitaOnline172 ай бұрын
@@daggerwulf338 theyre asking if double ice with inner rage as a taunt is better or worse than s&b with shield throw
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
Double ice staff isn't outdated, it just offers different stuff. It offers more group support at the cost of survivability and personally I'm only using double ice in scorepush nowadays, like for example the Kyne's Aegis world record
@hojo_sosecАй бұрын
Great video! Switching up Puncture and Frostclench to Goading throw and EleSus will be very interesting. What would be the best selection of traits on Goading Throw for a DK, in your opinion? Also curious to research options besides Druids Braid and Trainee for front-bar. They're great options for the HP gain ofc; I'm just wondering about certain trial sets that give you some HP and then allow you to double-bar the 5-piece (if your HP is already pretty good). Or perhaps gain some extra armour, thus giving flexibility to non-Nord tanks to have The Atro mundus rather than The Lady without needing to rely as heavily on enchants, traits, or Bulwark CP slot to hit the armour cap
@piouspigeon93272 ай бұрын
I like vDSA!!!
@eyeofmagi80882 ай бұрын
What about necromancer? Sense they use grave yard for major breach you keep both? One for aoe one for boss?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
I wouldnt use Boneyard against bosses unless you have a lot of bar space and wanna do it just for the synergy (though in that case Inner Rage is better synergy provider) or for the AoE Minor Vulnerability. In trash you can just replace Caltrops with Boneyard
@josephpugh13312 ай бұрын
I still have ptsd from my vdsa farming. Also, quick question, I assume the old setup would still be best for eso+ members without scribing?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
Yep
@GusBus11one2 ай бұрын
Hey can the shield throw focus script be pull? Because that pulls and Taunts? And then the soul chain pull slot can be flexed out?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
Nope, that would make it more expensive and lower its range from 28m to 22m. Also a chain soft-taunt isn't enough for some encounters, yes there are enemies that will stick to you for a bit after taunt runs out, but there are also enemies that will instantly switch target and kill a DD if you let the taunt run out for just a bit
@PrismaticsGG2 ай бұрын
Do you still use void bash for trash/dungeons? If so, what does your skill setup look like in this case?
@Sublimeoo2 ай бұрын
just swap ulfsids/ flare for power bash and you're golden, an razor caltrops instead of stone thingy and pulsar instead of ele suscept
@guy-kun99182 ай бұрын
hey hyper, curious about your thoughts on double ice tanking in dungeons compared to this. Isn't it more of a damage increase to do that for your group since the brittle uptimes would be higher? (assuming no arc is in colorless)
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
I wasn't using double ice staff in dungeons even before this. You're right that it can be a damage increase for your group but I don't think it's ever worth it in dungeons due to worse survivability of double ice
@guy-kun99182 ай бұрын
@@Hyperioxesmuch appreciated, thanks!
@IRaidzI2 ай бұрын
I like that
@martinlepik5981Ай бұрын
Would it be absoulutely insane going with pull on shield throw? It would lower the range down to 22meters and increase the cost to 3100 stamina. Is 22 meters taunt enough for all content? It would also open up another skillslot.
@HyperioxesАй бұрын
22 meters isn't enough for all content
@adamoslaw112 ай бұрын
Is Shield Throw + Elesus better than 2 Staves Clench + Elesus tho?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
It's not strictly better. It provides better survivability and longer Major Maim, but double ice can provide Brittle uptime if you don't have Arcanist using Rune of the Colorless Pool. It's a Damage vs Survivability trade-off, and personally I'm only using double ice in scorepush nowadays, like the Kyne's Aegis world record.
@theperfectgame484Ай бұрын
Doesn’t change much but I haven’t seen myself use puncturing remedy in years, just always have vateshran on anyway
@dizintegration2 ай бұрын
Apologies in advance if Hyperioxes or anybody in the comments already pointed it out, but where does your taunt go now? Do you put onto the shield throw script or??
@Chronos3082 ай бұрын
yes, one of the effects you put on the shield throw is taunt.
@nelloaun2 ай бұрын
Great
@imsalty97612 ай бұрын
Big brain good job me tank good
@AllLeather2 ай бұрын
Use piece of trainee with death dealer's fete. Its 1450Hp + 2640Hp + 2640Stam + 2640Mag with only proc condition to "be in combat". Plus extra armor you gonna get by slotting light armor piece on a sash instead of a head or shoulder. Its so much more value than any arena weapon, i dont understand how its not meta yet.
@goldenrichards60152 ай бұрын
keep in mind that only works if both 5 piece sets were one bar sets like saxhleel and PA
@martind.62082 күн бұрын
thought the same but checked the comments first
@Snow92282 ай бұрын
Actually based. Thank you for this 🗿🤝. Also, W dsa hate. That arena sucks 🙏
@jonathanrichman23302 ай бұрын
I’m still not sure about using a sword & board since a charged ice staff front bar keeps almost 100% uptime on minor brittle passively. I also use Inner Rage as a taunt so I can still run the extra health from trainee/druids. The free damage from the synergy is nice for dps and the extra synergy for OT/zenkosh/healers is great for resources too.
@gopherboi2 ай бұрын
Personally didn't like shield throw as my only taunt, especially when taunting multiple things because it costs much more stam than pierce
@martind.62082 күн бұрын
It isnt the only taunt. The scribing skill has taunt on it too.
@IngvarGWT2 ай бұрын
Ahhaha the comment on DSA got me laughing; What are your thoughts on asylum sword & board?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
It's good, I used it on Arcanist when offtanking Bahsei
@Alex-xu4ex2 ай бұрын
@@Hyperioxes with defensive stance or absorb morph?
@Hyperioxes2 ай бұрын
@@Alex-xu4ex Defensive Stance
@lbdmkhl2 ай бұрын
Полезное видео, спасибо.
@lef19702 ай бұрын
Healers will still make you go there 😢
@iceicejay95692 ай бұрын
its even better to drop the sword and board entitely and just double ice staff
@Alex-xu4ex2 ай бұрын
I've only heard it used for the sake of brittle uptime, so would you still say so for an arc tank that has colorless? Why if so?
@rckstar032 ай бұрын
shield throw in this configuration costs more stamina than pierce armor. I would suggest converting the taunt slot to magicka damage and use the soul (chains) as taunt…..save your stamina for blocking/roll dodge/etc
@edgybaqira2 ай бұрын
to me it'll cost too much magicka cuz there's too many mag abilities we usually slot so i'd still go with the shield throw.
@seifer4472 ай бұрын
I don't think you can do magic damage and taunt on shield throw. I believe they use the same script slot.
@rckstar032 ай бұрын
@@seifer447 i’m aware of this…..which is why i said convert the taunt slot to magic damage
@oshirockingham96552 ай бұрын
The problem with the chain is that sometimes it's bugged out, and your target ignores it. Also, the range is shorter.