In a world of technology, where will the BMS/BAS be in 10 years? (AIRAH Presentation)

Last year, I presented in person at the AIRAH Big Data and Analytics Forum (Australian Institute of Refrigeration Air-conditioning and Heating).
I am pretty much talking through the same slides and presentation.
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[@davetroy294]

Great video . I think we would soon find more PLC vendor coming into commercial market as we are seeing this trend in the market .

[@adambaker4303]

I agree with you, I think, the problems we face is that there's a skills shortage in the area's such as integration and cyber security and our industry isn't fast enough to recognise this let alone react to it.

[@coreyr8870]

I agree with you Bryce. Consultants and engineers are being sold on packaged, pre-programmed units that are to be integrated. This will reduce many to just installers. The installers will likely be just electricians or HVAC techs. Cloud companies are also selling their products to energy management specialists that do not care to understand BMS down to control level and are mesmerized by widgets and the term AI, as in AI will write the setpoint and our graph will show savings so you can pay us. I have been to plenty of meetings and unfortunately this is my experience.

[@bryceanderson17]

Cloud tech is riding the AI, ML, IoT marketing wave. But, not for much longer, people are realising the ROI is not there for the long term. Short term maybe. We need to fix the BMS! That is what we need to do.

[@bfam7110]

Great post Bryce! Yes BAS companies heads berried in the sand... Do you ever think profit is the problem? IE., its a very profit decision making industry and if there is no profit in the evolution it is of no interest to the BAS manufacture...? I am waiting for something to rattle the industry which I hope would come about by something better, as evolved as modern social media technologies, open sourced, and free...

[@bryceanderson17]

The best thing about the BMS/BAS industry, is that there are 100s of opportunities to be a hero. We haven't evolved much in 20 years. You are right. Wait until big tech (Elon Musk, Microsoft, AWS, etc) realises the value in controlling power in buildings and coordinating with the electricity grid, and discharging parked car batteries. Someone, will come along and disrupt the whole industry.

[@alanjones3875]

Where do we start. I'm trying to get the electrical contractors to provide all LV services I see no reason that a highly skilled BMS team are building distribution boards and pulling in power cables. But I cannot even get rid of TOA switches on control panels. The BMS contractor just puts them and getting them to provide GUI instead is like pulling teeth. Packaged plant is awful, why suddenly have BMS engineers become unable to control an AHU, and getting an AHU specialist to site during commissioning is almost impossible. The MEP contractors save money on packaged plant and then expect the BMS team to resolve issues and get the package plant to work. I like you am so frustrated, all we can do is keep writing specs that call for technology and eventually we will move forward but it's hard.

[@jaiden6612]

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[@goober-ll1wx]

The innovation level in BMS is close to zero, Trend in the UK is just an old tired company full of middle-aged white men. It's never been an innovator and their products generally suck. Most $20 Raspberry Pi's can outperform controllers they sell for over 10x the cost...