In Defense of Batman Arkham Origins

[@EchoTheWorld03]

It's sad that WB won't rerelease Arkham Origins in the collections they did. Even tho it's not made by Rocksteady, it's still canon and it has a very great story.

[@AmariMarvelous]

True

[@vanguardluard8334]

I wouldn't be surprised if Montreal wanted to keep it out because they didn't wanted to be associated with that game or series anymore because they made Gotham Knights

[@zzz43344]

​@@vanguardluard8334Figures...

[@intuitionedits2.032]

Also ridiculously fun to play.

[@alexcontrerasnegativened7777]

But then again that collection was shit.

[@LucasHopkins2006]

Kevin Conroy will always be irreplaceable, but can we at least agree that Roger Craig Smith still did a good job as Batman, I think he’s pretty underrated in the role

[@wwalton]

He's my favorite Batman so yes, yes we can

[@oreohunter7798]

Kevin had wonderfully intimidating stoicism, but I couldn’t feel the level of rage that Batman can get to, Smith brought the thunder in young Batman’s voice.

[@quarreneverett4767]

@@oreohunter7798 they. Both did it ok. But the statement about the lvel conroy did do oretty good but then again i have alot lf.material i can reflect.on

[@StormtrooperGamer]

​@@oreohunter7798exactly, especially when you had to beat the living hell out of some of the bosses or one of the goons just to get some information off the streets, and not to mention he's literally Chris redfield from resident evil I mean come on how cooler can you get??😂

[@jerbearadventutures]

Roger Craig Smith should be the voice to replace Conroy. Loved this game. Troy Baker did a fantastic job with the Joker as well.

[@Onezy05]

Its still a pretty fun game. The boss fights are the best in the series. So cinematic, hard hitting, and well choreographed.

[@zaneheaston8254]

While I disagree, the Bane fight in Arkham Origins is easily the best "brute fight" in the series

[@Onezy05]

@@zaneheaston8254 Damn straight. I also love the Deathstroke and Firefly fights in the game, but Banes boss fight (both of them) are simply fantastic. That last section where the TN-1 Bane is lumbering around and you have to use stealth to beat him, all while that great music is going on in the background... riveting stuff!

[@leithaziz2716]

Deathstroke is one of the few bosses in games that make a QTE fight work. It's so good.

[@mysterycupofjoe2670]

Origins and City are perfectly balanced with gameplay and story. Asylum and Knight are heavily lore based but weak with bosses.

[@Onezy05]

@dan6erous879 The correct opinion

[@Mobysimo]

Not only do I think that Origins has the best plot of the series, it also has the best boss fight. The Deathstroke fight is amazing and the fact his fight in Knight is just a Cloudburst rematch is just kind of insulting

[@Rayon811]

homie forgot about the other 95% of the game

[@Mobysimo]

@@Rayon811Most of the Knight bossed are a massive downgrade from Origins

[@СерафимТоманов]

Yeah, i was shocked when after beating Deathstroke in tank Batman just knocks him out after one puch. That sucked. I still enjoy Knight a lot, it combat it is the best one and Batmobile is great, i don't agree with many people that is annoying feature, thought it has too much of a driving. But boss fights sucked, unfortunately.

[@shortbread1818]

It’s completely insulting. I wish they hadn’t bothered bringing him back if they were going to make the rematch so shitty.

[@halloweenjack95]

Arkham Knight was awesome. But the Bossfights were a joke and very disappointing

[@DanGamingFan2406]

This was my first Arkham game, and I loved it. It's a shame that so many people see this as the black sheep of the series and that it wil probably never get a re-release. Slash Damage and Iron Galaxy did a pretty good job in the place of Rocksteady, I think. The underused villains were all fun to see, especially Copperhead and Firefly, the Christmas setting was a great contrast to the grittyness and violence on screen, and I loved the Joker origin parts of the story and the look at Bruce and Alfred's family relationship we got.

[@watershipup7101]

Agreed

[@waterbullstudios9195]

Don't forget Deathstroke.

[@leithaziz2716]

Arkham Origins Bane is one of the best portrayals of Bane in any media in my opinion. Instead of being treated as a mindless brute, we see him as an intimidating tactician with a group of men who are loyal and respect him. He figures out Batman's identity, nearly defeats Bruce before Alfred calls for help, and destroys the Batcave. This is a LOT more interesting compared to how he's portrayed in the Rocksteady games for example.

[@kidprime6863]

​@@waterbullstudios9195Don't remind me of that boss fight

[@kidprime6863]

​@@leithaziz2716That happened in the Knightfall comic, too. But why I don't like is that later in the game Bane does the back-breeaker move on Batman during the final battle. Yet, Batman is still able to continue the fight, no problem. I can't tell if that's either bad-ass or bad-writing.

[@leithaziz2716]

Arkham Origins is to me the Batman game with the best narrative. This portrayal of a younger, less competent and more angry Bruce who hasn't learned to keep his emotions in check is the most compelling version of Batman in the Arkham series. His dynamic with Alfred is the most memorable parts of the game and it was nice to be able to explore the batcave in person. I also wanna give a compliment to this version of Bane, which is one of the few portrayals of the character that doesn't depict him as a mindless brute, and really gets what makes him a threatning villian.

[@dandee6331]

agreed!!!!

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@leithaziz2716 How old were you when you played arkham origins back in 2013?

[@ShadowThe771]

2:59: Stupid fact: Apprently Warner Bros were so pissed at Kevin Conroy for unknowingly revealing Arkham Knight that they nearly stopped him from attending conventions for good.

[@abramsullivan7764]

Warner Brothers are real assholeses.

[@lunagebehart8663]

Fun fact. In the german dub of origins both Joker and Batman retain their voice actors so I for a really long time didn't know that they were changed for this game. It was hilarious to find that out on a recent re play on ps5 (my system language is english so it was an automatic change for me) I just went "Wait. This sounds....Different"

[@cartervandenberg4771]

I actually love the map in this game, especially the parts from Arkham City that were reverse-engineered to look like they did in the past, and the bridge is a nice touch since there actually is a bridge visible there in Arkham City if you fly high enough to see it over the wall. One of the main reasons I've put off playing Arkham Knight is that the map feels too massive, barely even recognizable as the same place from Arkham City. I'll always prefer the Yakuza approach of having a smaller map that changes slightly with each installment.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Well, the map in Arkham Knight is 3 new islands to the west of the 2 islands from City/Origins. In fact, you can see those 2 islands in the distance. One has the Wonder Tower, the other one has the Royal Hotel.

[@peytonmubarak]

You should definitely play Arkham knight tho. That game has some of the best graphics and gameplay I’ve ever seen even till this day. And it was released in 2015! The main story isn’t so great but it’s definitely Kevin Conroy’s best performance as Batman. The side missions are also fun too. Definitely worth playing

[@cartervandenberg4771]

@@peytonmubarak I'll probably play it at some point but there's a lot that puts me off about it, even the side missions just seem like an overwhelming task with how many there are, and the Arkham Knight himself isn't interesting to me at all. It really baffles me that we didn't get an entire game of Scarecrow when he was the most acclaimed part of Arkham Asylum. But who knows, maybe J's video on it will change my mind.

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

​@@peytonmubarakVisuals ain't everything.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

When I got around to playing the Arkham series, I decided to play them in chronological order. Thus Origins was the first one I played. For that reason, I was able to judge it purely on its own merits and wasn't judging it against the rest of the series. And I can honestly say that I loved it.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

Yo that's weird you say that because RIGHT before i read your comment i was thinking to myself "I wonder if it would be cooler to play them in timeline order" lol

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

...Y'know I literally just typed a "how you can play Origins in the timeline" suggestion, but now I'd like to add a third. A. Release order after City, to get more City out of your City if you didn't get enough of it before moving on to Knight B. After Knight, if parts of Knight ended up disappointing you that you need a palette cleanser or C. Timeline order, *if you want the story to end up having any weight at all* because damn near the entire story is pointless when nothing about how this game sets up its characters has any impact on the proper trilogy which is a crying shame because this game's plot in a bubble is really good

[@JohnnyBoomBoooom]

Batman Arkham Origins is the first video game i’ve ever played, growing older and now being almost 17 i realize that this game may have not been the best arkham game but it delivered on many points especially without two key voice actors, call it nostalgia but i absolutely adore this game

[@toongrowner1]

as someone who played all the arkham games with origin being the last, I would almost argue that it is the best of the series, at least storywise it certainly is the best written one.

[@aranighosh3945]

​@@toongrowner1Origins was my first Batman game. It made me a fan of Batman.

[@quarreneverett4767]

@@aranighosh3945 yeah the akham games pulls from the animated series like the tim burton movies

[@bandawin18]

City was my first, then I bought Asylum later on for $15 and Origins on sale for $5, Origins is definitely my favorite just for the boss fights. City is definitely close with the Mr Freeze boss but Deathstroke is just unmatched

[@emmitbrown2501]

It gave a real batman feeling prowling the cold rooftops the snow crunching under your big armored boots the shwoosh of the Cape as you jump ye it was good and the only batman to have snow and snow effects

[@fetcherman13]

such an underrated game and truly deserves a remaster.

[@bendyboy7179]

It does.

[@NMbones98]

I agree the boss battle with Slade is reason enough

[@johnferranti3566]

No it doesn’t

[@OfficialSatelliteMan]

Play it on PC… Steam Deck can run it nearly maxed out at 60fps.

[@surfmuf1314]

Not underrated at all. It got exactly the score it deserved. Honestly I’d consider it kinda overrated with how much fans jerk it off

[@SpikeStarkey]

I've always maintained that Origins was the best written of the bunch. (Leaving weird timeline things aside) Biggest issue I had with it was the bugs back when it launched. I went into the night club for a mission and just fell through the world. Game would actually load the save under the map, so it soft locked the game for me.

[@timothyvarghese9415]

I feel like this story may have been the most cinematic of the 4. Sure, the fact that Joker is back kinda underwhelms previous Arkham fans, but when you look past that, it becomes powerful. I would argue that this is the best writing we get for both Joker and Bane. Joker is just a criminal just causing chaos and chasing money until he becomes obsessed with Batman. He finds a purpose which was previously absent. Bane also has a wit and cunning previously absent from both Asylum and City. The final boss fight even seems to be the most in line with Joker from the comics and movies as his whole point is to get Batman to break his code.

[@СерафимТоманов]

I would add something, that makes Arkham Origins better for me in some ways comparing to other Arkham games. Firstly, new detective mode. Of coursem core mechanic is the same as in City or Asylum. But it has new feature - rewind the crime scene. It makes this mechanic much more satisfying than before. It was even repeated in Arkham Knight, because that was a good add in AO. Moreover, Batman in this game feels like a detective much more, than before. In Asylum that mode was only the option for you to follow a trails in case to find new location and new objectives. In City it became more interesting, but it has lack on elaboration. Now Batman can investigate something, but it is really short and present only in few areas of the game. In Arkham Origins everytime Batman investigates something, you feel like a detective. Because now you finally can investigate crime scenes, and not just in some Deadshot quest like before, but all the time. This mechanic became of the most important. The story includes dozens of such episodes and new quests when you must find street killers are very cool because of investigation process. It was done great. Secondly, Arkham Origins has the best story in the series and the best script, immo. I personally think Arkham Asylum story was too simple in many ways and didn't have much to give, but with the gameplay it feels organic. Arkham City story was much better, but still has some flaws, where something doesn't work as it should, but still, it has great moments and ending was superior. Arkham Knight had many highlights, but with Arkham Knight devs could do better, and in some other ways too, like with Barbara. But still, it was good. In Arkham Origins story is great from start to finish. Batman-Joker relationships are one of the best that i've ever seen. I don't know a story, where Joker at the beginning feels nothing about Batman, but then after some time he falls in love with him, after Batman saved him. Usually Joker feels about Batman by default, because they're different. And AO has very interesting approach to characters, because Batman's moral code, basically, created their relationships. That is the reason why Joker feels connection to Batman. Bane is the best version of a character in the media, i would say. Not to mention, that Bane before AO wasn't a great character in my opinion. Bosses in AO, in my opinion, are the best of the series as a whole. City has good bosses, Mr Freeze is the best in the series, but i still prefer AO in boss battles.

[@quarreneverett4767]

Thats pretty cool

[@ProtectorOfMemes]

I find it funny that Sonic CD had a hidden image that was basically a Batman reference, and then 20 years later, Batman ended up being voiced by the current Sonic voice, and then the two of them would cross over in LEGO Dimensions afterwards.

[@joshuanelson6795]

I was one of those people singing Origins’ praises at its release, so I am glad to see it finally receive the love it deserves years later. This is better than Asylum and on par with City for me.

[@AxleTrade]

Same. I faced a lot of flak defending this game and still a decade later, I stand by my sentiments. Origins is still an amazing entry.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@joshuanelson6795 Nice.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@joshuanelson6795 How old were you when you played the game back in 2013?

[@joshuanelson6795]

@@isaiahyinko7182 I was still in high school, either 16 or 17.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@joshuanelson6795 Nice.

[@RyuEmatsu]

One thing I notice, that you didn’t bring up was the how they did the counter system. In the first two games, there was a flow to it. But in this one, you can literally counter so fast that you can get a combo off of it.

[@abdulazimnaushad]

Yeah. Somehow I enjoyed the combo here. Unfortunately I played a clunkier version of the game on my PC so I did not enjoy it as well as I thought I did.

[@Seven-Seas-of-Baba-O-Riley]

12:46 I just want to point out that it seems to be 8 years before Asylum now. In Arkham Knight, in Joker's only audio log, Batman states that Asylum took place 2 years ago. In Arkham City, an Arkham Story (can't remember which) states that Asylum was some months ago (can't remember how many, or if it's specified). In Arkham Knight, it is stated that Firefly and Death Stroke have not hit Gothom in 10 years, with the descriptions of their last encounters matching the events of Origins. Additionally, Nora Fries is stated to have been frozen for one decade, which lines up with Cold, Cold Heart (1 week after Origins). In Arkham Origins, it is repeatedly stated that Bruce Wayne has been Batman for 2 years, making Origins Year 2 of his career, Asylum and City year 10, and Knight year 12.

[@SQGReviewShow]

Origins was always my second favorite Arkham game behind City. The boss fights were especially incredible. My favorite was always Deathstroke.

[@kaidorade1317]

Did this game need to exist? No . But I’m glad it does!

[@DonniedrakoE]

Origins will always be one of my fav games. The story is super undderated. Roger Craig Smith and troy baker killed it as Batman and joker plus this still holds up as some of the best bosses in the series.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@DonniedrakoE That's great. Have you seen the dark knight trilogy?

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@DonniedrakoE How old were you when the Trilogy came out?

[@BombasticLion]

I always loved Origins. I remember watching the cgi trailers and being so hyped for it to release that I preordered it. Unfortunately it only came with a poster that I never hung up and is now probably torn to shreds somewhere. Roger Craig Smith and Troy Baker are easily my second favorite Batman and Joker behind Kevin and Mark. I did manage to play a little bit of the online mode and it's really cool to play a thug being stalked by Batman, something I hope they make into a full game down the road. This was also the only Arkham game I played blind as I didn't have City yet and Asylum's atmosphere was too much for me as a kid.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@BombasticLion How old were you when you played the game?

[@clashcitywannabe]

the hotel sequence leading into the Bane fight (with what is in my opinion the best depiction of Bane ever, in any medium) followed by the spectacular Joker/ Harley origin sequence is one of the highlights of the whole Arkham series, it's stunning. I love this game.

[@ruffiyan]

the voice actors of origins were spot on, so the nit picking of not having Conroy and Hamil in origins is not a big deal as it was a prequel and fans have been asking for another game with Roger Craig Smith and Troy Baker as batman and joker as they nailed their roles in Origins .

[@PiecakeQ]

I wasn't even interested in the batman Arkham series but with these videos it got me interested and I found batman Arkham origins in my PS3 collection so gonna play them

[@vzerby]

Late to this so I know my input won't matter but I also really loved the artistic style of this compared to Asylum and City. This lighting being solid high highlights really actually put more focus on the darks in scenes and I especially loved when they really leaned into the comic like appearance like when it show's Batman in front of the moon he's all shaded and his eyes glow white, awesome stuff.

[@fatenabu1]

The 5 year thing sounds like a studio mandate or something. Reminds me how in New 52 DC said that all of Batman's stories happened in 10 years, and the first 5 years he was just an urban legend.

[@NobleRaider2747]

The 5 year thing got retconned in Arkham Knight into being about 8 years, give or take

[@DinoDave150]

Does anyone else really like Origins' soundtrack? Everyone always talks about how great the story and boss fights are, which they are, but I hardly hear anyone talk about the music. Just like the rest of the game I find it to be greatly underappreciated with a ton of great tracks to listen to.

[@gman3229]

This game was great. The depiction of bane and death stroke were especially incredible!

[@nick-playercharacter8583]

I was there for the multiplayer when the game released. Man, it was rough. The gameplay was actually pretty fun, but good luck getting a game together even on its launch weekend. There was barely anyone online and the matchmaking was astonishingly terrible. Each match took around an hour to even get into and, if a single person ragequit, everything fell apart. Given that most people wanted to play as Batman or Robin instead of the crooks, ragequits were shift and frequent. It had potential, but it was just dead on arrival.

[@Rayon811]

this game had a multiplayer??

[@chandlerh2408]

@@Rayon811 Yeah, it was pretty fun. How it worked was there were 3 teams, Banes gang, Jokers gang and Batman and Robin. The gangs played similar to gears of war and occasionally one member could play as Bane or Joker.

[@metallicnole4514]

I actually grinded the multiplayer so I could prestige and unlock the blackest night zombie skin

[@THEBATMAN_396]

Second best game in the series. Innovated the Arkham formula more than people want to admit

[@SoyboyPeter]

Did it add anything new mechanics for Batman to utilizes? Did it add any new enemy types for stealth. Not all all.

[@THEBATMAN_396]

@@SoyboyPeter Who said they needed to add new stealth enemies? They added crimes in progress. A perma death mode. They added two awesome gadgets (the remote claw and shock gloves). They added excellent enemy types in combat like the martial artists and venom users. Seems they added plenty new gameplay wise. They also added crime scene reconstruction which Arkham knight stole from them.

[@THEBATMAN_396]

@BoxingisgoatedBoxingisgo-sy7jy lmao origins story is better than asylums and knights and it's gameplay is better than asylum. Other than the concussion detonator the gadgets are pretty good. And of course they would sound different. They're different voice actors portraying younger versions of batman and joker and they do an excellent job.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

​@BoxingisgoatedBoxingisgo-sy7jy Wow if what you say about the glitches, weaker gadgets, and chit skill tree is true then it's definitely a hard pass for me

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

@BoxingisgoatedBoxingisgo-sy7jy Naw i think i know enough about them now to know which ones ill like Imma play arkham knight an that's it

[@Gabe-h9y]

I really miss the Arkham Origins multi-player I used to play it all the time, because I love shooters and I love Arkham, usually when you combine two great things it makes one big pile doo doo but not with this, there is just something about it thats makes it worth more to me than any other shooter, it was just such a blast to play and I really wish WB Games Montréal consider giving Arkham Origins a PROPER remaster alongside with City and Asylum and if they do they better bring back multi-player, I know it didn't do so well but that doesn't mean that it was hated, that just means that a lot of people didn't give it a chance and they really should've, truly one of the best online games ever, especially considering that it probably wasn't even a focus of the production to the main game

[@sebb.jimenez]

Besides the bugs and fps drops (especially on console). This game was mad underrated. My second favorite game in the Arkham series

[@waitwho3074]

On Series X or even just one x the game runs perfecto. Only on the DLC mister freeze where my game crashes always at the same spot when roaming in the city. Apart from that, no issues and either way unfortunately the DLCs and Season pass has been delisted including the game itself. So if yall want to Play it you need to find a physical copy and for the DLC you need to find some digital codes. Idk if they sold the SP in code tho.. I only got black mask and the Deathstroke code from two random paper code that still worked and the SP I bought on Time then I got refunded cause there was a bug but then as soon as they refunded me it unbugged and for some reason i was able to keep it. It still Says I own it lol, i guess lucky me

[@glynrobinson9416]

No mention of the expanded detective mode? That was the thing that AO improved massively.

[@thelionheart1179]

18:50 has to be one of my favourite conversations in the whole Arkham series just shows the rage and vengeance early Batman uses to fuel his crusade

[@neutralbychoice3584]

As a big Batman guy i will say that this game is the only Arkham story that feels like a classic Batman story like Hush or Long Halloween (in my opinion)

[@mahega128]

This is my favorite Arkham game out of the 4. I love all 4 so dearly. There is no “bad” game. They’re all good & this one takes my top spot. I’m sick of people saying “Arkham trilogy”, it’s “quadrilogy”, give the game its respect. Definitely needs a remaster.

[@apollorock3r244]

What’s interesting is that out of all the versions of the game at launch, I heard that the Wii U version is surprisingly the better one. Despite that the multiplayer is missing in that version, I do remember that it’s $10 cheaper and it not as glitchy as the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions (I remember in Somecallmejohnny’s review that he mentioned about the game freezing sometimes and has to get a huge update). Though I do give props to the PS3 version to actually have the Adam West Batman outfit. XD

[@DonDeLem]

This is the only Arkham game I never played, but I really wanted it when it first came out. Although, the online mode looked cool af, the combat looked like Arkham City's but improved, I liked Batman's voice, and the story was interesting. It convinced me that this might actually be the best Arkham game back then, but I did like City's story more.

[@shadowjoker285]

When i first played Arkham origins, I loved it as it was a great Batman game and I never understood why people didn't like it or why it never got remastered like Rocksteadys Batman games

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@shadowjoker285 How old were you when you played it?

[@shadowjoker285]

@@isaiahyinko7182 I was in my teens

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@shadowjoker285 Like 14 or 15 years old?

[@shadowjoker285]

@isaiahyinko7182 yeah I think so because even tho thr ps4 had come out I'd only just got my hands on a ps3

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@shadowjoker285 Nice. What year were you born?

[@Battleguy_515XD]

We can all agree that the Deathstroke battle in this game was wayyyyy better than Arkham Knight!!

[@robertwalker6301]

That deathstroke boss fight in knight was a joke that should never brought him back to the series

[@christianfrost8660]

I have always enjoyed playing Arkham Origins more than either City or Knight. I mean that says all it needs to about the series as a whole. For me it's about the experience, when I play through the series which game makes me feel Batman and the world around him the most and honestly Asylum does the most, then Origins.

[@dandee6331]

This game doesnt need a defense. Its a fantastic game. Yes there are glitches but I personally feel it has the best of the Arkham Stories and having it on Christmas Eve was a cool touch

[@Adam_X78]

Kevin Conroy will always be Batman, and nobody will replace him But Roger Craig Smith did a great job

[@robertrogers074]

This game needs to be in collections.

[@kanutt1]

The weirdest thing playing through these games again just recently is that the timing in combat is a bit off compared to the others. The free flow mode doesn't feel as smooth.

[@captainblighe7297]

The *”That is Fear”* speech goes so hard. RGS kills it as Bats. It’s also a completely understandable way of thinking from Alfred and Bruce as you feel that this is the end of a boiling point between them over the last 2 years. After the events of tonight, you feel them become more emotional about the crusade of Batman. Also I have a good deal of jokers lines memorised as they’re so freaking good, Troy Baker is delightful as the chaotic madman.

[@captainblighe7297]

Also the music in this game goes *HARD AF* , Christopher Drake made the key moments and just roaming of this game so cool

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

The RGS typo instead of RCS makes me wanna call him Roger Greg Smith.

[@scottmcclary594]

for me these game are fun and ground breaking mechanically but the stories are the best part and when I'm playing them I find myself trying to slow down so I'm not just blowing through the story and everytime I start a new game save as soon as I'm done with the first gameplay I imediatly start new game plus and play straight through from start to finish!

[@michaeloverton04]

I only grew up with the Rocksteady trilogy, and loved the hell out of them. When I got my Steam Deck about a year ago, I was finally able to play Origins, and I did just that. It was... fine. It had the fantastic Arkham gameplay, but there were a lot of things I didn't care for, not including the countless amount of times it crashed. Enemies seemed a bit spongier, Riddler was its most tedious, despite having less collectibles than City, the world design was much less coherent, and the experience system seemed overcomplicated. The new enemies were damn fun to fight, the remote claw was just awesome, and the bosses were the best so far, but that didn't stop Origins from being the worst of these games for me.

[@ExarKun0]

Because you played on a shitty Steam Deck. What these types of game deserves is a good, large 4K TV with maxed out graphics and a reshade, a dark room and couple grams of weed. You'll have the time of your life.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@michaeloverton04 How old were you when you played arkham asylum back in 2009?

[@michaeloverton04]

@isaiahyinko7182 I didn't play them when they came out. It wasn't until I was 14-15 (2018-2019) when I played them via my Xbox One. I couldn't play Origins because my dad didn't buy it when it released, nor is it backwards compatible.

[@isaiahyinko7182]

@@michaeloverton04 That makes sense.

[@HelpTheWretched]

This is the first video of yours that I've watched, and I thought you layed out the facts and analysis very well. Fun story time: I was living in Montreal when Arkham Origins was being developed, and during the pre-release videos I noticed some of the graffiti in the game was taken from around the city. Once the game was released I did a bunch of "detective work" to hunt down all of the graffiti pieces and find their original sources. I think I managed to track down all of them except one. Some were just a few blocks from my home, some were already in my photo collection from prior years, and at least one was in Ubisoft Territory. Anyway, I enjoyed the game just fine, and this connection to where I lived made it a little more special to me.

[@EarselBill-bi4xr]

It’s wild how Arkham Knight took such a step backward with boss fights after Origins….Origins collectively had the best boss fights. I mean, it didn’t have that epic Mr Freeze fight, but the rest of them were great, especially Deathstroke and the different Bane fights. I personally liked the Shiva fight too

[@oatmealcreampie3938]

The multiplayer was the most fun I have ever had playing online, it was crafted so well I really wish it was remastered

[@nickymo]

It’s kinda quaint to think in 2013 they hadd to get a “filler” game out because the wait between arkham entries would be too long, living in 2024 where it’s been over ten years since the last gta game, 7 or so years between the last of us 1 & 2, same with red dead redemption lol

[@inshal6420]

Yeah development costs have blown up

[@jimmyrolls37]

I remember a lot of hype for this game leading up to release. A few websites posted bad reviews the day before launch and suddenly the game was terrible. I have only encountered one major glitch: the floor didn't render and i fell thru. This happened only once. For most part, game was solid and I was playing after midnight launch day one

[@anonymousyoutuber3760]

Origins has issues: the bait and switch with the main villain is annoying, the shock gloves and remote claw are overpowered (the latter would’ve worked better in knight where there is a higher enemy count in predator sections), the concussion detonator is a complete nothing burger of an item, and it was riddled with bugs at launch (though this is more than likely the fault of the publisher rather than WB Montreal), But I still love the game

[@nickymo]

Origins is by far the most cohesive/consistent narrative in the series. Literally everything you do serves the theme that Batman is too angry and single minded which blinds him to the reality of his situation. I wouldn’t be surprised if Matt Reeves was a fan of this game because his film hits so many of the same bold critical notes in Bruce’s character. City and Knight both get off track and feel all over the place by the end, as far as a Batman story goes. I just finished Knight for the first time, Batman’s such a prick to his allies throughout the game but the story doesn’t do anything with that by the end, everything just works out. He doesn’t have to change and become a better hero like in Origins.

[@Skeleton20133]

Origins' story is false advertised.

[@Superbad22]

I felt that Arkham city’s map being back was really cool! I liked that we got to see what old Gotham looked like before it became Arkham City. I don’t understand why that was so hated on in this case

[@kristopherjones4096]

You gotta admit that Death-stroke Boss Fight was epic

[@KaySpde]

This game is totally fine and is one of the shining examples of, in my opinion, gamers not having a clue what they actually like. When I played this game, it was after asylum, city, and knight. Its not that different, and the jokers introduction is memorable.

[@CryptoSeb]

😂😂😅🎉r

[@RJH755]

It's prequels like Arkham Origins that make me still in awe at how good Red Dead Redemption 2 was as a prequal to RDR1

[@REYjr-cy9ww]

This game NEEDS a Remastered

[@undertaleislife7210]

Lesson in game design. If you’re copying something that’s great (and you’re willing to actually put effort) then you’re bound to have something at the very least decent.

[@tomjames9681]

Best written of any of the Arkham games, and it’s not even close. It’s simply a shame that the game is a technical mess, and while borrowing a lot of the mechanics from the Rocksteady titles, it doesn’t attempt to innovate whatsoever. The area it does contribute to, the multiplayer; an asymmetric hunter/predator game mode was awesome, and its servers going offline was a sad day. The game is the most deserving of a remake.

[@valmid5069]

Cant wait for more content from this channel!

[@The_Phantasm]

When it first came out Arkham Origins was definitely underrated and does so many things very well and in many cases better than Arkham Knight. The game has a great story and fantastic characterization, with Batman, Alfred, Joker, Gordon and Bane being the standouts, the boss fights are all memorable and the best without a doubt in the Arkham series (although overall the Mr. Freeze fight from Arkham City is the best) and it's certainly better than any boss fight in Arkham Knight or even Arkham Asylum. It's also the only game where you can go to the Batcave. Not to mention that it also has the best DLC out of all the Arkham games with Cold Cold Heart. I also adore the music and soundrack composed for the game by Christopher Drake. In last few years people have gone back to the game and have praised it a lot more for its story, characterization and nuances in its story. I would also say that it's the only game in the series where Batman's character arc feels prevalent and integral to the story.

[@SoyboyPeter]

Theres plenty of reasons people detest origins. Arkham origins map is pretty inconsistent with Arkham city. Like where did Gotham merchants bank even come from? And why is the old GCPD building a train station here? The continuity errors and retcons make this story completely nonsensical. Death stroke as a playable character is virtually a reskin of robin. WB Montreal chickened out and didn’t bother giving him a sword and gun. The 8 assassins are barely even utilized. Killer Croc got reduced to a basic thug beatdown. Deathstroke only shows up for a singular bossfight and that’s it. What was even the point of bringing in Shiva and Electrocutioner into the assassination contract? Oh and on the topic of lady shiva, her boss fight was absolutely atrocious and horrible. Copperhead’s boss fight is also terrible. She’s also an idiot too. She knows that her poison will hasten Batman’s demise if he’s pushed to his limits so why does she leave? Bane in Arkham origins still has a couple stupid moments. He stills runs face first into walls and he doesn’t just snap Batman’s neck whenever he has a hold of it. Batman also has a couple idiotic moments. He spent 30 minutes trying to triangulate penguin’s position even though it should be so obvious because there’s penguin banners outside the final offer. Penguin is just advertising his location and Batman took way to long to find him. Why didn’t he tie up Electrocutioner? If he did, he would have no way of solving the scenario joker and bane placed him in at black gate. Black Mask was completely humiliated and forgotten about and literally reduced to a mediocre side mission. Joker was completely unnecessary because he has nothing to do with Batman’s arc. It could have been Roman Sionis and literally nothing would change. The game doesn’t add any new mechanics for combat and stealth whatsoever. There isn’t even any new enemy types for stealth. Also since this is a prequel, that means the story is very predictable and completely void of any tension. You already know that the main characters are walking out of this adventure unscathed. Thus making this story completely worthless that only causes more damage than good. Arkham knight is so much better than this. It has way better combat, stealth and free roam. It’s story is far superior too.

[@The_Phantasm]

@@SoyboyPeter In Arkham Knight Scarecrow is built up as the main villain but Joker completely overshadows him, only this time they bring him back from the dead with a way that makes zero sense. Everything with Joker's blood turning other people into versions of himself was widely criticised and hated by fans. Joker's unique personality being able to be recreated through chemical means diminishes his character and takes away his uniqueness. The chemicals Joker originally fell into only changed his skin and hair colour. His fractured and deranged mind was a part of his intrigue and mystery and wasn't related to the chemicals. Also considering how little of the antidote was left in Arkham City the other people infected with Joker's blood should have died and not turn into him. The infamous Arkham Knight revealed was guessed by pretty much every comic fan as it was painfully obvious for people familiar with the character and for people that weren't it didn't have nearly the emotional impact they wanted in the story. The rest of the Bat family are treated kind of terribly and will get it to the side especially Tim Drake Who is supposed to be a teenager in the comics and yet he is in a relationship with Barbara in the game which was hated by fans. Barbara in the comics is much older than Tim and is in a relationship with Dick Grayson. Also Robin's design was pretty terrible by making him bald. The pacing was all over the place and the game often felt like it came to a grinding halt at times, especially during the mission with Harley Quinn who is very underused in the game. Pretty much everyone complained about Arkham Knight having pretty much zero good or at least memorable boss flights. Obviously one of the biggest criticisms was this major overuse of the Batmobile and turning it into a tank which took pretty much 50% of the game if not more. While there were a few standouts, most of the side missions were really brief and anticlimactic as well, like for example Two-Face, Firefly, Azrael, Deacon Blackfire and especially Hush and that's hardly the only ones. The worst mission was by far Deathstroke's which had an awful and unimaginably anti-climactic ending especially after everyone requested that he returned since he was such a fan favourite in Arkham Origins.

[@SoyboyPeter]

@@The_Phantasm Why do I feel I’ve already addressed these points before?

[@THEBATMAN_396]

@@The_Phantasm Thank you for pointing out the joker hypocrisy. People always like to complain about joker being in origins but they ignore the fact he's in knight despite him being dead

[@The_Phantasm]

@@SoyboyPeter Oh wait, we've talked before about a month ago.

[@Versat1l]

It's my favorite of the series. Incredible game.

[@aidenh.2782]

Normally I'd lambast the "who cares as long as the acting is good" mentality, but with legacy characters like most superheroes who have dozens of different continuities I think it's fine to have inconsistent voice casting.

[@NoxLebeau]

How did all this stuff happen in 5 years New 52: hold my beer

[@danielkeulder6852]

Arkham Origins is probably my 2nd favorite Arkham Game. It has always been underrated in my opinion.

[@DanBharry]

According to Arkham Knight, Origins takes place 10 years before Knight, And Asylum was 2 years before Knight, so it was 8 years before Asylum. Should have been closer to 20 years imo

[@Zorro3k6]

Here's the thing about Origins. I didn't hate it like everyone else did. But I also had a hard time getting sucked into it. Not because it was basically a City clone, but because of the stupid game breaking bugs at the time. I remember getting this on PS3 at launch. I had just gotten to the first battle with Deathstroke and the game straight up froze on me. I couldn't do anything. After that I just put it down and decided to play other things. Since then I tried to play it on PC and it's better, but I still just can't devote a ton of time to it and put it down again. I have to force myself to finish it some day

[@JsReviews]

I think that is the one thing this video was missing. I kind of forgot this game was buggy at launch. But now I remember that was a big part of what people were talking about a launch, but I don't remember it being bad to a game breaking degree.

[@Zorro3k6]

@@JsReviews Honestly, I was kind of surprised you didn't mention the bugs lol. I could even see a lot of frame rate issues in your footage which bothers me a little when I play a game. But I digress. Most of the bugs didn't actually break the game, but they were annoying at times to deal with. The most extreme was my Deathstroke fight which I think eventually resolved itself and allowed me to save after the cut scene. But yes, the bugs was definitely something everyone was talking about. A shame really as if it was more polished at launch, I probably would have stuck with it and enjoyed it more.

[@martinfiala2712]

Best Bane, Coolest Croc, and you can actually fucking fight Deathstroke

[@alexandrefrauches132]

12:47 The reaction of many comic readers to the New 52 continuity.

[@PierceDunphy]

I’d argue that this game has the best story out of all the games.

[@dannypoo3281]

Great Christmas season game to play!

[@ajerjavec4723]

There is a section on the fridge page of Arkham origins that does actually give a legit reason on why the Retcon with Harley makes a lot of sense and one of which is real life, red tape between prisons and asylums plus it also explains why she was using her Harley voice and not her professional voice on the interview tapes it kind of ruins, the illusion of her falling into madness since it’s only voices them, not giving her a more professional voice at the beginning, is a big flaw with the original game

[@creedecriswell634]

That’s not a big flaw

[@ajerjavec4723]

@@creedecriswell634 true, but Paul Dini wrote the game and a lot of the other interview tapes. Show story progression with how crazy they can be, so not having harly speak in a professional voice really doesn’t show her falling under jokers control

[@creedecriswell634]

@@ajerjavec4723 True my fellow Batman fan.

[@weirdotzero7065]

@@ajerjavec4723 I would say it's a goof in the voice direction. Not to say the voice direction is bad, nor the voice director is either(she was the main voice director for 90s and 2000s Cartoon Network shows after all). But just it was a small detail lost in development. But no matter what happened, my personal fan-retcon is the Arkham Asylum recordings were re-recordings Joker and Harley made years later either so Harley could relive the experience of when they first grew together or because the Joker wanted to do it to keep Harley under his control for longer(or both. Those could both work together too).

[@beefjerky007]

My favorite Christmas game of all time

[@brucewayne3157]

I played this one yrs ago on console when it came out and always had good memories of it. Just re-downloaded it on steam and watched this video in preparation to defend it to my buds. (They blindly follow the critic reviews on games they havent played🙄) This is perfectly explained. 10 outa 10 video for a 10 outa 10 game. Well done❤

[@nilehoruseus]

This game has a great story

[@BeeWiseman]

I got this game at launch, on PC, I was kinda sad to find out that Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill weren't reprising their roles, but upon playing through the game, I wasn't bothered at all. The game definitely felt like a mechanically better Arhkam City, and while I felt it, I couldn't be mad, as it still made it a good game overall. A little bloated in terms of story, but good. In the early days, the game was also pretty glitchy. I had many instances of just getting stuck in rooms, or ventilation shafts, but nothing to hurt the overall experience. They were funnier than anything else. I actually did put a good lot of hours into the multiplayer. Even though I don't play those games for it, it was surprisingly fun. Not the best, but a nice little asymmetrical multiplayer experience, being able to play as the Jokers, the Banes, or Batman and Robin. It was nice for killing time, and hearing your respective gang leaders cheer you on for doing well, or berate you for losing, was fun, especially when you got to PLAY as Joker/Bane for a bit, with their different playstyles.

[@adrianscorch]

… people didn’t like origins?

[@snackeater4990]

Unfortunately a lot of people

[@JobSChool-pw5ii]

Everyone on youtube seems to hate it even tho u ask anyone on any other platform they would say its tge best game in the series

[@snackeater4990]

@@JobSChool-pw5ii Fr. They talk about it like it’s the worst game in history

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

This was specifically at its launch in 2013 as the game as it was incredibly buggy, Gotham essentially being a slightly larger Arkham City. Nowadays it’s much more appreciated for what it is.

[@Jarqueivies]

the one thing I absolutely hate about origins is that it was way too short

[@hotcocoabomb_]

I'm glad there's more people expressing love for this game recently. It's always been my favorite out of the 4

[@StarWolf5298]

Everybody says they Origin remastered but always forgets about Blackgate :(

[@UnrealNeoBat]

The current voice of Sonic played Batman for the first time.

[@westpointsoulja]

I have always praised the boss battles in this game. That's the feature that stuck with me the most and made me enjoy it so much.

[@martinfiala2712]

Origins has the Best Bane, Best Coolest Killer Croc and Batman looks more Ruthless

[@Imhotep-the-7th]

The cut scenes are awesome, start the game and walk in the city or on the rooftops or wherever you like.. there is so much details, arkham origins is hands down the best arkham game there is.

[@WindigoTP]

I've had a lot of fun playing Origins on release, but in the end, the game being "same as City, but more" burned me out hard, and I to this day haven't played Knight. Perhaps, the inevitable review of Knight will push me into finally trying it for myself.

[@dmnapier7]

My favorite part about Origins was the dlc that let you go through the league of shadows training as Bruce. It was a good mix of combat and predator maps.

[@AmariMarvelous]

Arkham City im my opinion is probably the best game out the series but Origins is my personal favorite.

[@raven3067]

Look I do like the game. But I do understand the issues many critics have with it. And in all honesty I'd say that Arkham Knight wasn't an improvement from this game either. Yes that's right. I said it. The one and only Arkham game that literally grants you the privilege and free will to drive frickin Batmobile has nothing compared to Arkham Origins.

[@Dwayne_19K]

Origins had the best boss fights and a great representation of how a young inexperienced Batman should be but from my gameplay the controls are weird in stealth, you’d try to enter a grate but instead you’d snap to cover, you’d try to grapple but end end up grabbing a random ledge in your path.

[@oukeith]

Arkham Orgins is my favorite batman game im tired of pretending its not!

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

Honestly, I never minded the casting choices for this Batman game. Then again, my childhood Batman show wasn't TAS, it was the one simply called "The Batman", which ran from 2004 to 2008. They had some of the most insane character designs and casting I've ever seen. They had Clancy Brown as Mr Freeze, Ron Perlman as Killer Croc, Robert Englund as Riddler, Adam West as the Mayor, and Dan Castellaneta as Scarface. Those are some wild choices that really worked IMO.

[@donalgodon]

Origins is a terrific game. More fun than most new games.

[@timothylewis2527]

Been replaying the entire series on Steam Deck. I loved Origins back then and I still play it on Xbox Series X but I'm still super hyped to replay this one. And maybe I'll finally get all of the Riddler trophies in Arkham Knight...

[@dragonsswarm1987]

I remember hearing something along the lines of, all of Batman's history in comics was condensed into a 7 year timespan after a crisis event, so the game saying that Asylum happened 5 years after origins (7 years total since Bruce became Batman) might have been keeping in line with that continuity change. If I misheard can someone please correct me?

[@mikesmith145]

Can’t be, currently he’s in his early to mid 40s

[@SergeantAngel]

Maybe not the best game overall but definitely the best story in the series.

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

Unpopular opinion but I prefer it to the other Arkham games.