"In Name Only" Albums (w/Martin Popoff)

Join Pete Pardo & Martin Popoff as they discuss some albums that are somewhat viewed as oddities in a bands catalog, and are sort of titled as or viewed as 'in name only' releases.
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[@NotData]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned The Final Cut - Pink Floyd. This is pretty much a Roger Waters solo album with little contribution from the rest of the band.

[@independenceltd.]

the David Gilmour stuff fits better

[@meloralovesdarkness2495]

I Hate this album, like I can not stand any Waters solo stuff in general. I like some of the WALL where Waters ego really blew up!

[@tatedavis2016]

You could say the same about Squeeze by The Velvet Underground. Great, quirky album, but it’s essentially a Doug Yule solo album with Ian Paice playing drums on it.

[@Chr1551]

To be fair Momentary Lapse of Reason would have to get mentioned in the same breath. Actually since MLOR is more so David & session musicians, as well as him needing outside help to write it, I would argue that it's even less of a Pink Floyd album than The Final Cut.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

​ I agree with you but be ready for a backlash from those who worship Roger Waters and who think he can do no wrong and that he is essentially Pink Floyd. 😊

[@kevinthetruckdriver353]

One band for me. T.S.O.L. (The Sound of Liberty) started off as a hard core punk band. After a few member changes. They involve into a hair metal band. When that run was over & the original band members reunited. The band went back to playing hard core punk.

[@independenceltd.]

yeah, but their best album is "Hit and Run"...

[@bodowen]

*True Sounds of Liberty

[@sspbrazil]

There are some good songs on The Doors Full Circle and Other Voices, Robby Krieger actually wrote some of their best songs when Jim was in the band and his and Ray Manzarek’s vocals on those two albums aren’t bad at all, it’s just that they were filling the shoes of Jim Morrison, gut taking those albums on their own I think they are decent albums.

[@davidsummer8631]

Is A Momentary Lapse of Reason a David Gilmour solo album rather than Pink Floyd album

[@satchboogy8168]

Twisted Sister’s “Love is for Suckers” was supposed to be a Dee Snider solo album. I like it but it is definitely more pop-oriented.

[@kevinsmith7-7-7]

Agreed 💯

[@Paulthediecastguy]

The band Stryper came out with and album called reborn. It was basically a Michael Sweet album. He had it mostly done. He just had Ox fox just add his guitar parts and made it a Stryper album. Michael has since released his version a few years ago as it was entended just adding a few more solos and a few vocal parts. He renamed it reborn again.

[@aldebaran4154]

The Endless River was released as a favor to the late Richard Wright. He always wanted those Division Bell outtakes made public. So Dave made four suites out of it to make it work as well as he could, adding some later overdubs with a new song at the end. I feel considering what it is, a kind of epilogue/exit music to the band's career, it works better than it should.

[@terrencereardon6374]

BEST COMMENT! I AGREE!

[@ilj1259]

Great comment it is a great album that some critics just don't get .. and never will.

[@MackeyWilliams]

Negative reviews of this album are proof that most people are really dumb and don't read. It was never intended to be a full-fledged Pink Floyd album. They are outtakes. End of.

[@tillwesenberg1178]

Cut The Crap by The Clash springs to mind.

[@justinmathewson3692]

What about Imaginos ? It was an Albert Bouchard album that Columbia marketed as a BOC album. So many guests in that album. I love it

[@relayernj]

I haven't commented before Pete, but this is my favorite series of yours. Always insightful topics and commentary with you and Martin. I must admit, however, that I'm a bit put off with Martin showing off all of these autographs. Did he actually take all of these albums to get signed when meeting these musicians, like a school girl? Should I be impressed? They're only people and scribble, Martin.

[@RickNBacker]

In the middle of his classic era, Elvis Costello released "Almost Blue", an album of country songs (!)

[@tomfabozzi5353]

Squeeze- the classic power pop band- also had a hit with a country song at exactly the same time “Labelled with Love”

[@wolf1977]

...and then jazz records...Similar to Van Morrison & his run of jazz albums (most of which I don't care for & I'm a huge Van fan)

[@brizzieleif5258]

Rainbow, Strangers In Us All isn't strictly a Rainbow album. It was meant to be called Moon after Blackmore's Grandad, but the record label insisted it was named Rainbow.

[@scottragland2817]

BOC's Imaginos may be its own category.

[@meloralovesdarkness2495]

Yeah Imaginos is a "Strange" critter for sure! I actually like it though.

[@tomfabozzi5353]

So do I. It’s the best BOC album between Fire of Unknown Origin and The Symbol Remains. Certainly WAY better than The Revolution by Night and Club Ninja

[@piperathegates2112]

How did Kiss not have a Christmas album? “Merry Kissmas”, “Kick Ass Christmas with Kiss”, the possibilities are endless! 😂

[@stephenpuishys3482]

You have YES with the various changes on keyboards, guitar and singer which traditional yes vans didn’t like the Rabin years or the Geoff Downes and Horn album or even now with Davidson singing. They are YES albums but some don’t think they are

[@wolf1977]

I agree (mostly because I like most of that stuff without Howe/Squire or even Anderson)

[@Rockerlady]

The current Jethro Tull stuff is decent, but I think Ian is the only original member. Going to see live later this month.

[@ravenfuckantifa2000]

Demolition Hammer [Thrash] - Time Bomb. It was truly never meant to be under the Demolition Hammer name. The band started writing new material around the time Vinny Daze and James Reilly left the band, and the sound started shifting to a more modern (90s) thrash sound as heard on the 1993 Demo/Time Bomb Sessions (the songs exist on KZbin called "Test" and "Corporal Punishment"). The band felt that the change in sound "wasn't Demolition Hammer" so therefore were hoping to release the material that they had been working on under a different band name but the label wouldn't release it unless it was under the Demolition Hammer name. They were stuck with either not releasing the material, or going ahead and releasing the material under the name because you don't wanna just not release your work. Whenever the subject of "bad albums by good bands", "bands who changed their sound", "thrash bands selling out", or anything related to these topics are being talked about and Demolition Hammer/Time Bomb gets brought up, I always try my best to bring the story to light. I either don't include the band/album, or I do include the band/album but with an asterisk due to the circumstances, knowing roughly the bands wishes, and it not being the fault of the band. As far as what I think of the album on it's own, it's decent 90s thrash/post-thrash.

[@davidsummer8631]

Is Movement Joy Divisions third album but without Ian Curtis or New Orders first album. Because after Movement all New Order albums sound like New Order albums.

[@christophercheney1006]

"Chinese Democracy" is most definitely an Axl solo record. And, I'm one of, like, 5 people on the planet that effing love it!

[@bjornjagerlund3793]

I’m not sure A is a good example, because Jethro Tull changed their style all the time in the seventies. Compare the string of albums from Aqualung to Songs from the wood. They are all completely different to each other. That was the thing with Jethro Tull.

[@jeffreyrobinson9120]

Never did the same album twice.

[@wolf1977]

Agreed, they kept their music fresh

[@matthewlizmi1912]

Coroner - Coroner (1995) is an odd duck. They had already broken up but were contractually obligated to put out one more release, so they culled together what was basically partially a greatest hits compilation containing some songs from each of their previous studio albums (most of which weren't really the "hits"), along with about 25-30 minutes of brand-new material, a cover, a live cut, and a bizarre electronic remix. If the original tracks were just released on their own (maybe with the cover thrown in since they had a habit of ending albums with those), I believe they would have worked well as either a long EP or a short LP instead of a weird half-comp. I I think it would have made a fitting swansong for them had it been an "official" release, especially with the self-titleage and the distorted band photo they used as cover art

[@JoelPrice253]

And the new stuff had members from Tommy's new band Clockwork, making it even stranger...

[@NigelSmith66]

"Calling All Stations" is TOTALLY a Genesis album as it features ever presents Tony Banks & Mike Rutherford. I know it generally gets a bad rap but I've grown to like it. While it cannot compare with the classic 1970s catalogue, I think it is better than "Invisible Touch" and the debut album at the very least.

[@maddysmith8846]

You could make a similar argument with Trespass and Nursery Cryme as Steve Hackett is very different from Ant Phillips and Phil was in a different league on drums. The 12 strings are gorgeous on Trespass and Ant’s The Geese and the Ghost is its natural successor (to my ears).

[@jerryf1618]

I totally agree. As a Genesis fan, I like a lot of Calling All Stations more than a bunch of songs on the post-Duke albums. It definitely has a Genesis character to it, especially with Tony Banks' chords throughout.

[@JIF882]

I actually like it better than Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance

[@RickNBacker]

Speaking of that Humble Pie album (Back on Track), only Greg Ridley (bass) and Jerry Shirley (drums) were classic members. The big puzzlement is that in the same year this was released, Greg, Jerry, Peter Frampton and Clem Clempson performed several tunes live for the Steve Marriott Memorial concert (and they were GREAT). They looked like they were enjoying themselves, so why didn't they plan a short tour and why didn't they get together and do an album???

[@wolf1977]

"Trouble" & "This Time" are good tracks. YT has a bunch of clips from that Steve Marriott Memorial concert, good stuff. There's an album of it called Mustn't Grumble (with Paul Weller & Kenny Jones, Zak Starkey, Bob Tench), as well as a video documentary film (Netflix used to show it)

[@Kellerwerks]

Surprised Martin did not mention The Velvet Underground - Squeeze. Possibly the most underrated album of all time. Some great songs, but it is simply not a VU album. It's a Doug Yule solo album with some members of Deep Purple and Yes filling in. VU fans, specifically Lou Reed fans, tend to dismiss it, which makes sense as Lou hated Doug (who didn't Lou hate?)

[@ianbrown3304]

As I recall Iain Paice was on Squeeze ( which I have and is a fine fine album) and Rick Wakeman and/or Steve Howe were on the blessed Lou's first solo album. I saw VU in Edinburgh on their reunion tour. They were still great.

[@stephenwalsh4392]

That album totally sucks. With Lou all the way on this one.

[@Kellerwerks]

@@stephenwalsh4392 I smite thee. Smite! Smite!

[@suarezmarull]

Calling All Stations is a really good album. Never understood the hate for it.

[@wolf1977]

I kinda like it too...Not as good as Gabriel-era Genesis of course so pales in comparison but taken on its own terms it's not bad

[@martinkyle1463]

They were very good live at this time, too.

[@JIF882]

It's because Phil isn't on it. I like it. It marked a sight return to the band's Prog roots

[@Wayner71]

You guys should do a video on "uncharacteristic albums" (if you haven't already). An example being Neil Young's 'Trans'. Record labels often refused to release albums that were atypical or unrepresentative. It still astonishes me that they permitted Lou Reed to release 'Metal Machine Music'. Cheers.

[@TomPetty60]

Pretenders fits this aswell. Was a steady band during the first two album. 4 members. Then after that both the lead guitarist and bass player died and it became two core members for the third album and after that the drummer left and starting the 4th album onwards it became just Chrissie and professional studio musicians and still named Pretenders.

[@katesjanice]

I love Martin. What a true gentleman-he NEVER swears. He speaks proper English and has the decency to respect those of us who are offended by constant f-bombs. Love you Martin! Even Pete mostly cleans up his language when he works with Martin. It’s really part of what makes Friday at the Funhouse the best show on SOT.

[@petrafied]

I ignore the first Moody Blues album. I do not own it and I consider my collection of their studio releases complete.

[@johnhoran9840]

It's not bad for what it is, but, apart from 3 members, it has nothing to do with what followed.

[@2kmetalhead]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Blue Oyster Cult - Imaginos. This was originally supposed to be an Albert Bouchard solo album, but ended up being a BOC album. All of the backing tracks were played by studio musicians. Buck and Eric are featured on lead vocals and Buck plays guitar on only a few songs. Albert's role was diminished from doing all of the lead vocals to singing backing vocals and a few sporadic lead vocals and some rhythm guitar. Joe Bouchard's original piano parts and vocals were supposedly replaced. Allen Lanier is not present at all.

[@andrewmeyer3423]

Velvet Underground’s 1973 album Squeeze with Doug Yule but no Lou Reed.

[@stereo999]

It's a Doug Yule solo album with Ian Paice from Deep Purple on drums

[@ianbrown3304]

I'm the one person who thinks Squeeze is a great album. Do I get a badge?

[@stereo999]

It's not without good songs, it just doesn't feel like the Velvets without Lou Reed

[@ian593]

@@stereo999 Aha the old Fleetwood Mac wasn't Fleetwood Mac without Peter Green strategy. Basically its a path not travelled. Had one incarnation of a band continued it may have changed how their catalogue is viewed. Personally I prefer late period Byrds but accept that many could not see any version without Crosby or Clark as being authentic.

[@stereo999]

@@ian593 not so much, Mac was 9 albums in, Green was out for a while and still Fleetwood Mac when Buckingham and Nicks joined. Byrds were always the Byrds. Soft Machine had no original members by their 9th album. The difference is Yule intended Squeeze as a solo album but was convinced it would sell more as a Velvets album (though there were Reedless Velvet gigs)

[@scottprentice6815]

I'm surprised Pete didn't mention "Tance Visionary " by Wishbone Ash. Definitely rates the "in name only" tag if you ask me.

[@philipquail4044]

Also Psychic Terrorism. And various repackagings of the same bunch of tracks.

[@passenger62]

I like it when Pete says "it seems like we're going off in a million different directions - yeah we are", and that's the subject of this episode, which makes sense. Also: Utopia's Deface The Music was different - an lp of Beatles' pastiche songs.

[@aliens_exist_23]

Good and Bad covers albums could be an interesting show...

[@Hecatecrossways]

Black Sabbath with the Rainbow guys , and Tony Martin on the mic is Black Sabbath in name only. It's basically a little Heavier Joe Lynn Turner Rainbow, or a more commercial version of Deep Purple

[@abe3802]

Funny, I heard Warhead first back in 1982 and didn´t know there was another album by More until many years later. So Warhead is a fave for me, even if it has a weak production.

[@paultrate4855]

Deep Purple’s Slaves and Masters. Yes, I know I’m in the minority in really liking this album, but despite it being 4/5 Deep Purple it’s also 3/5 Rainbow and sounds far more Rainbowish (e.g. Bent Out of Shape) than Perfect Strangers.

[@justinmathewson3692]

RIP Jimmy Buffett ❤️ Let the world enjoy a Margarita and a Cheeseburger in honor of his memory

[@williamtallman9816]

How do I organize my Stooges, Iggy and the Stooges and Iggy Pop albums?

[@noheamike5036]

So many albums coming to mind during this episode. Can't recall exact categories, but here's some albums: Neil Young Trans/Everybody's Rockin'/Old Ways, Jon Anderson The Ships (Christmas album), BOC Cult Classics, Poco Legend (recorded as Cotton-Young album, recorded company wanted as Poco), so many already forgot...

[@TexasWildheartsFan]

Great discussion! I love the brief "dark" direction my favorite band, Cheap Trick, took on ALL SHOOK UP & the HEAVY METAL Soundtrack. It was all gone by the time we got to ONE ON ONE.

[@justsomedude5727]

Candlemass- dactyls/13 sun, not even bad albums but was supposed to be a side project Led zeppelin-Coda, this one always confused me Any soundtrack album-it seems to be random whether theyre included or not, Pink Floyd's more/obscured, beatles yellow submarine Christian death- anything without Rozz Type O negative- Slow deep and hard, kinda somewhere between Carnivore and TON Alice cooper-pretties for you, scorpions lonesome crow, a lot of bands who did kinda psychadelic/experimental albums before going hard rock.

[@scottlame6724]

Danzig-Blackacidevil This album was a complete change in sound and had all different members also. Although it doesn't fit with the other albums I do enjoy it. SOiL/Drowning Pool Ryan McCombs has fronted these bands at various times over the last 20+ years. The SOiL albums with AJ Cavalier are good (especially True Self) but they just don't sound like SOiL. Drowning Pool has had numerous singers over the years but McCombs sounds like the best fit for the band outside of Dave Williams who passed away. Gorgeous Frankenstein/Doyle GF was a short-lived version of the Doyle band. I saw them twice. Goolsby of Blitzkid was the singer but he did not appear on the album. They did songs from the GF album as well as Graves era Misfits material. I've also seen the Doyle band twice. They have a couple albums and have only done original material live in my experience. There is quite a revolving door of members.

[@andrewcarr5923]

Queen Made In Heaven could be considered for this topic, yes Freddie Mercury appears on the album but he didn't have any say on what would be released by the other band members after his death, I'm a lifelong Queen fan but the quality of some of the posthumous releases have been patchy at best.

[@mikejohnson7225]

That’s a tough one. They didn’t have enough new material so half of the songs were from their solo albums. They just re-recorded the music. It’s a weird album.

[@christianhaynes1954]

Favorite show dudes 😜 ! Thanks for the funhouse .❤ it !

[@johnmichaelwilliams6694]

Popoff and Pardo are it again concluding their two-part series on (to paraphrase) whose album is it despite the artist shown on the cover. The Doors albums without Jim Morrison were the first example that came to mind on reading the title of this and hearing Martin start. Glad to see him include those. Watching these two episodes made me think about the whole Neil Young With Crazy Horse discography and people's apparent thinking that these are all just Neil Young albums. Perhaps they are though Crazy Horse has albums of their own and those are not assumed to be Neil's catalogue. Some examples include Everybody Know This Is Nowhere, Rust Never Sleeps, and Ragged Glory. The albums generally are co-billed as something along the lines of "Neil Young With Crazy Horse" but should they just be Neil Young albums or not? In any event, obviously enjoyed the episode as Pete and Martin somehow make me re-think what is often thought to be known. Thanks once again, gents. There ya go!

[@wernermoritz882]

Neil and the Horse are a unique band with a unique style unlike other NY projects with other bands. To me the artist credit is different than just Neil Young for a reason. There are a lot of people (like Pete) who prefer his electric stuff with Crazy Horse and dislike his folky stuff or country rock or vice versa.

[@johnmichaelwilliams6694]

@@wernermoritz882 Thanks for your thoughts. Agree with you that the artist credit is different and very well should be but just hadn't been really though about before this video.

[@emersondmalfa]

Cold Lake - Celtic Frost, Grave New World - Discharge ...

[@Vortice_Mortale]

Popol Vuh - Yoga, even though its basically a bootleg. As I understand it, it was a jam session between Florian Fricke and Indian musicians visiting his studio that he recorded for himself with no intention of releasing it.

[@marct7813]

Dio singing Ozzy songs, can't do that. Played Live Evil once, he absolutely murders Ozzy songs for me. Can't take anything away from the Dio's vocal talents. Later as Heaven & Hell when they stuck to Dio era is great.

[@petervanbuskirk500]

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

[@AndyTempleman-ot6lu]

Thanks, great topic and nice job doing your research. You pulled a lot of cds and records.

[@macseinchin]

The Trick or Treat album by Fastway. But it is a great collection of songs.

[@kamranmalik8546]

Seventh Star Black Sabbath featuring Tony Iommi A Momentary Lapse of Reason was supposed to be a Gilmour solo album. Judas Priest Jugulator and Demolition Genesis Calling All Stations sounds like a Grunge band Rainbow Stranger In Us All

[@michaelbaucom4019]

Kansas has three, I call them KINO: Kansas In Name Only Drastic Measures. It sounds more like a John Elefante solo album, not much prog, and no violin. Power and In The Spirit Of Things: These albums are more Steve Morse solo albums with Steve Walsh singing(or Morse/Walsh collaborations) than Kansas albums, again, not much prog, and no violin

[@JIF882]

Interesting that you guys mentioned Magnification by Yes. I agree. No keyboards, no Yes. Also, it seems like Chris, Alan, and Steve are low in the mix. So, it might as well be a solo album. I like Calling All Stations. Phil Collins isn't an original member. Tony and Mike are. They had ever right to release Calling All Stations as a Genesis album. Regarding Rainbow, they've always been a revolving door. So, Stranger In Us All is a Rainbow album. Regarding Jethro Tull, Dave Pegg joined for the Stormwatch tour.

[@PaulRossFletcher]

I love Made In Heaven by Queen. I get why people hate it, but I love it.

[@maddysmith8846]

You could add 1994/95’s Grayfolded (Transitive Ashes and Mirror Ashes) into this show somewhere, put together from master tapes in the Vaults by John Oswald. I think it is probably one of a kind and I’ve always really liked it.

[@kenfrederick6223]

The Baby's broke up after their 1980 "On The Edge" album. Two original members (guitarist and drummer) reformed the group to release a new album in 2014 . Kind of outside the purview of this channel is Christian Death which has continued to release many albums with different line-ups (no original members) and stylistic changes long after the the death of founding vocalist Rozz Williams.

[@ErnestIII83]

Those last two "Who" albums. And the "Dylan" album from 1973 for the category of "approved by the record company, not by the artist".

[@timholden3436]

An excellent discussion. Good to see the Ram Jam albums getting credit again. Does any one else agree with me that the (still great) second album "Portrait..." is pressed speeded up from how it was recorded? I think this accounts for the tight, intricate guitar, and especially bass, work. Should the various permutations of the Great White covers of Led Zeppelin songs be included in their catalogue? Posthumous Hendrix in the West was not in Pete's list. Probably his best live album. Frequently claimed to have the best version of the oft recorded Red House. The most collectible Freedom album is the last on Vertigo swirl - Freedom is More than a Word. Original currently asking over $500, unless you consider Neurosubianco, possibly their first, to be a true Freedom album.

[@andyshelton4889]

A majority of southern rock bands could be on this list.😀❤️🎼

[@sabyrk]

What about that one Morbid Angel record?

[@fredjohnson5938]

Krokus' "Headhunters" , where they changed from the AC/DC groove to a heavy metal sound. Great album. Judas Priest's " Screaming for Vengeance ", maybe because of a higher-end production, sounds so much heavier than any previous release. There are a ton of bands that could seem to fall into these catagories but the truth is after the first two or three albums just run out of good songs. I am always amazed at bands like Priest or Maiden who can actually get heavier as they age, compared to most that tend to soften.

[@tomfabozzi5353]

But this programme isn’t about change of style. It’s mainly about bands that had effectively broken up at the time. Headhunter and a screaming for Vengeance had the same lineups as the albums before them

[@claymccoy]

Big Star's Third album. Drastically different from the first two and some argue it's really an Alex Chilton solo album.

[@Hecatecrossways]

Handicapped Wildcat's 1983 album was pretty Commercial, but their 1987 album was pure Dance Pop. Jaguar not only switched from Proto Thrash Metal to New Wave they changed their image as well. Tiamat went from a Satanic Death Metal band to a Gothic Tecno band , but never bothered to change their band name

[@Jermeister12]

RAM JAM RULES😀😀 I own both LPS. I Love both equally😀😀

[@ronaldsmith1484]

I love those first three angel city albums!....Doc Neeson excellent vocalist lead singer with the Brewster brothers!.... hey Pete how about top 10 songs of Angel City!

[@markovisic7244]

Udo and Geoff! Accept and Queensryche

[@robertklimczak2207]

Martin, I love the Humble Pie Back On Track album too. Unfortunately I got rid of it several years ago and it's hard to find now at a reasonable price. I got to copy Real Thing from KZbin and that's my favorite cut. Hope the Humble Pie Legacy thing works out.

[@ElJuanSolo]

Do you know about/what do you know/think of Darren Wharton’s Renegade doing Thin Lizzy and Phil Lynott songs.

[@ElJuanSolo]

Yes Drama is a great album and it’s Yes enough for me LOL

[@hipoint4599]

I heard a show topic in Martin's sports comment "a good record isn't good enough"

[@joeh7630]

I remember buying Black Sabbath’s “Live At Last” on vinyl thinking what a rare hidden gem it must be. Then I played it. 😂

[@MackeyWilliams]

What does that have to do with the theme of this episode? Nothing. Dumb.

[@markkuligowski6430]

Is that a Buffalo Bills jersey!? Cool, Martin! Love you here from Buffalo!

[@ericvoyer7560]

Sepultura?

[@ilj1259]

Black Sabbath - Born Again doesn't fit in their catalog... Surprised you guys didn't mention it.

[@candelise]

Will you review the latest Jethro Tull Broadsword anniversary package sometime soon?

[@JoelPrice253]

Spooky Tooth's Ceremony = take all your momentum and flush it down the toilet!

[@shawnhaught6774]

Martin of all books you’ve written, were there any bands you wrote about that you weren’t necessarily a big fan of at the beginning, but became one while writing and doing research for the book? Also, we’re there any bands that you liked less after researching and writing a book?

[@qualityinnsuites3198]

More than the writing itself (which could use editing) the main thing about Martin's books that I've seen are the pictures -how does he get the rights to publish all those great pictures?

[@stevefletcher6163]

Jeff Scott Soto, JSS, SOTO. All slightly different styles but are they all one catalogue or 3 separate catalogues ?

[@rogertemple7193]

the Pink Floyd album Endless River is more of a David Gilmour solo album.😮

[@scarredgod6686]

@alex probably because Layne couldn't contribute, AIC was mainly Jerry, lyrics people assume was Layne just werent.

[@independenceltd.]

staley wrote half the lyrics on "facelift" and "dirt" and almost all the lyrics on "alice in chains".

[@elbib2446]

theres only one pistols album,there was also flogging a dead horse,which punks i knew bought,though im telling them,its in the title,malcolm mclaren milking the last penny out of a defunct band

[@Mark-bi5dk]

Savatage definitely changed their sound

[@elbib2446]

poor old dougie white,i watch a rainbow gig from japan,dougie era,and blackmore is on fire,looks happy and is smiling ffs and pretty heavy

[@dragonfly1694]

A singer will make or break a band. Honourable mention to The Sensational Alex Harvey Band album 'Fourplay' from '77, recorded without Alex Harvey during his year hiatus. Surprised no mention of the obvious, Metallica. They certainly changed their whole aesthetic & mindset by 'Load'. To add to Pink Floyd, 'The Final Cut' was technically a Roger Waters solo album, while it's follow-up 'A Momentary Lapse Of Reason' was a David Gilmour solo album. Frank Zappa's post-humous catalogue situation is similar to Jimi Hendrix, hard to know whether to include compilation albums of alternative versions of previously released material, even if they are official.

[@stevewhiteside4525]

For those of us of who are a tad older, the In Name Only phase of Tull started with Songs from the Wood. Mostly the old band, elements of the old Tull were still there, and they'd done folky stuff before, but more in the acoustic/singer-songwriter mould, not the Steeleye Span/Fairport Convention leanings like they had here. Despite some strong material it wasn't what we wanted from JT.

[@tomfabozzi5353]

They’re right about “A”, though. Jethro Tull effectively ceased to be a band after “Stormwatch”, where Ian basically fired everyone. It became his backing band after that (he even pretty much fired Martin Barre, eventually)

[@jeffreyrobinson9120]

The pre Annie Haslam version of Renaissance had a completely different sound than what would come later with personnel changes.

[@ruinousinadequacies7655]

Come taste the band is a Deep Purple album in name only...it could very well be a Whitesnake album.

[@turefromfinland3264]

Was Hughes in Whitesnake?

[@ianbrown3304]

It's Purple silly

[@wolf1977]

Except MUCH (to me) better than anything Whitesnake ever did (and I like a lot of their stuff but CTTB is an all time great 70's rock album right up there with James Gang's Bang)

[@63mckenzie]

Pink Floyd's Endless River was released after Richard Wright's death as a supposed tribute to him. It was bits and pieces of music he wrote and recorded. It would have been a much better tribute, and better album, if Gilmour and Mason had developed the themes into full songs.

[@danielvysocky2716]

Any of the Alan Douglas helmed Jimi Hendrix albums where Douglas erased the original backing tracks and replaced them with musicians Hendrix never even met nevermind played with.

[@66TGE]

One strange release is Rose Tattoo-Beats from a single Drum from 1986 that is released as an Angry Andersson solo album in 1988🤔🤔

[@independenceltd.]

i never even bothered to listen to that one cuz I heard is sounds nothing like the Tatts.

[@66TGE]

@@independenceltd. No its a pretty soft AOR album. I like it as a solo album but not as a RT album.

[@richardwillis6936]

Bad Company's post Paul Rodgers output was a definite change in style, and Tommy Bolin's family put out a bunch of posthumous stuff.

[@wolf1977]

The Bolin Archives family releases are meant to document the many (great) sides of Tommy's playing & writing. I got on board in the 90's right as the project was first announced - although there are still a number of releases I'm hunting down (hard to find now)

[@richardwillis6936]

No disrespect intended, was just mentioning it since Pete and Martin both passed over them when discussing posthumous releases by other artists,@@wolf1977

[@wolf1977]

@@richardwillis6936 I get it...I don't think Martin's a big Bolin fan

[@krissymarklewis1793]

When the punk band Bad Relions 2nds album was prog comes to mind.

[@wernermoritz882]

Never heard of them.

[@stevewhiteside4525]

The Beatles have a lot in terms of chopped up music. The US versions of the early albums. I love the Magical Mystery Tour album because it finds a home for Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane somewhere other than a bog standard compilation and I love the album overall, but it's an EP and some other stuff thrown together. Should Let It Be considered their penultimate or final album, did they have any say in it, the awful mess Phil Spector made of it, where does Let It Be ... Naked fit in? Why the sort version of Get back? Those early mono albums re-released in stereo at the time, then re-released later in mono, which ones count? Yellow Submarine - original songs, old songs, orchestral pieces, does it count? Giles Martin remixes. Do The Rutles albums count?

[@wolf1977]

Ditto with the comps The Beatles 1962-1966 & 1967-1970 (the Red & Blue albums) - some of my earliest Beatles albums (I think). To me Yellow Submarine 'counts' but as more of a 'specialty/novelty' album although it does contain "Only A Northern Song" & "Hey Bulldog", "It's All Too Much" & the wonderful "All You Need Is Love". I totally discount side 2/the film score - not into such things. Really similar to Help! 4 years earlier that's tied to a film & is a mix of (great) songs plus instrumental movie tracks...I generally don't go for remixes (remasters yes)

[@RickNBacker]

I love Rush but have no need to own Feedback, an album of 60's cover songs.

[@wolf1977]

I liked a few tracks

[@MackeyWilliams]

An utterly pointless exercise. How do you get Rush to sound like a boring and predictable bar band doing covers? Listen to Feedback. Just awful and unnecessary. A blight on their catalog.

[@wolf1977]

Really solo albums released under the band's name: Floyd, Graham Parker, Tull (Zealot Gene/RökFlöte), Sabbath, GBV, The Clash (Cut The Crap), 10cc (MirrorMirror), ELO (Zoom), Tears For Fears, Velvet Underground (Squeeze), Foo Fighters (s/t), early Garcia solo (with Kreutzman & Hunter) and Bob Weir (with Garcia/Godchaux/Lesh/Kreutzmann = Dead...And the reverse: Donald Fagen's Kamakiriad. Becker plays on it & produced, the rest are studio guys. Isn't that the SD 'formula'? Some early Porcupine Tree (when they really weren't a band yet & it's mostly all Wilson). Graham Parker's The Up Escalator - really a Rumours album. Albums with different mysical styles? I actually wouldn't include those under this subject - sure they sounded different from what the bands' fans were used to hearing but to me that's a positive thing. Bands that stagnate die (eventually), plus I really like it when music 'evolves' (and surprises). This episode's title - "In Name Only" Albums - I think suggests a somewhat negative connotation to it & again to me bands that offer different musical styles are a positive. A few major examples: 80's Rush, Deep Purple's Come Taste The Band, The James Gang post-Walsh, 60's Bee Gees, Zep's In Through The Out Door (possibly my fave LZ album), The Kinks evolving from a singles band to a concept album group, same with The Who evolution from a cover/mod band. Even The Beatles' 60's progression from a skiffle-influenced vocal pop band to making stuff like Sgt Pepper's & The White Album (same with 60's Beach Boys). Fleetwood Mac post-Green, and again starting with Buckingham/Nicks. I'm totally OK with calling Endless Wire a Who album, the band's leader/main songwriter/guitarist & the frontman singer are on it. Also because I like it quite a bit. I think there's a (much) better argument for calling some solo Townshend projects Who albums...I could do without most X-mas albums (and I like Christmas). I think many would also like to discount covers albums - I'm OK with them depending on the exact material & execution. Something new needs to be brought to older classics, otherwise why bother. And pick good tunes to begin with...As a rule adding orchestration to rock bands' tunes is a no-go for me (with exceptions)...Once again don't quite get some of Martin's hate towards a particular album - I like PF's The Endless River (not so much the more ambient tracks). I was also honestly a little lost during his AC/DC discussion - different track listings & releases by country are pretty common. But good points about Coverdale/Whitesnake, I'd maybe throw Roine Stolt's The Flower King (from 1994) into the mix...I can do without later-period Queen too (especially post-Freddie), too great of a band for all that...Thank God for posthumous album releases - look no further than Jimi & The Beatles (posthumous as in a band context). The Beatles 1962-1966 & 1967-1970, Let It Be, Hey Jude. I have at least 4 to 5 times as many post-1970 Hendrix releases as were on Pete's list & frankly that's nothing compared to what's available out there. Sure some of it's barely Hendrix, or has really poor sound, but a lot of it's also great & contains some wonderful nuggets...Yes without Howe? No problem for me, I love the early Banks stuff as well as 80's Rabin

[@meloralovesdarkness2495]

Has anybody evver noticed how many weird record lables Motorhead was actually on and how many pirates are out there? Ridiculously so many..

[@martymartin2894]

First one that comes to mind is black Sabbath seventh star.

[@de_sng5285]

The Queensryche album with just Geoff Tate

[@wokebloke7019]

A recent one…. The guess who’s new album ??? Wtf !!! The original drummer… that’s it. No Cummings no Bachman. No band